Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

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Holden said:
and you don't understand why there is nothing bad enough to be done to a lying sack of shit that also wants me to be a worker drone for slutdom?
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You have so much rage in your heart. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Some green dude said that.

Have you heard the good word of Jesus Christ?
 
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@Holden Are you influenced by music? Does it make you happy, or effect you emotionally? And if so, what are your favorite bands?

flossman said:
Off-topic, but Elvis Costello's first album was recorded with the backing band Clover. Clover later brought a young singer/harmonica player named Huey Lewis into the band.

The rest is history for both artists.
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Didn't know. But thankfully they did. This song has made my day, as I'm about to go out.

Later Fuckbot, have fun wallowing in your pitty and sorrow. See you tomorrow.
 
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Holden said:
why would i be? it's that same society that ensured my death with the very same policies.
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Explain to me how you still type and function then. This will be the first time that someone has actually died and can actually tell the tale. Unless it involves not getting da pussy, in which case you sadden me.

Also I'm fucking horrified at how thread 2 already has well over 100 pages. I think this will become a regular series.
 
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Holden said:
yes, you are insane
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Not my fault you think they leave before they get unblocked... the fact we're still posting in this thread kinda shows you're wrong.
Holden said:
I explained what the benefits to this are, even if they get unlocked eventually. Of course, a exceptional individual like you was unlikely to understand or remember.
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I remembered... and I understood more than enough to be able to point out that WE'RE ALL STILL POSTING AND WE'VE NEVER STOPPED!

Shows your reasoning for it is rather flawed...
Holden said:
But your example of imprisoning a man for not being a rapist was what made me scared, since women are also rotten in my country.
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Hmm... where's my quote bag...?
Holden said:
you're imagining things that haven't happened. you have no idea how it went down.
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Holden said:
i admire rapists and am ashamed for never having raped.
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Speaking of the quote bag...

Holden said:
The first problem
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Stopped reading there due to the excessive insanity you could see on it's way...

Hey, it's a lot easier to just dismiss something as insane than to show WHY or HOW it's insane... and if anyone dares claim it isn't insane, well that's just more insanity from them! I dunno why humanity hasn't been doing it that way since the first argument ever... except possibly the way it is nothing more than "Nu-uh!" and doesn't show anything beyond a lack of logic.

Watch as Fuckbot dismisses this as insanity without trying to show how or why it is... not sure if it's Ad Hominem, Poisoning the Well, the realisation that he has NO argument to make at all... or all three at once.

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Holden said:
i have absolutely no fantasies of hurting women. the only fantasies i have are those of finding a sane wife. describing how somebody like me, who isn't seducer scum, can get a wife and fantasizing about it are completely different things.
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*dips into the quote bag...*
Holden said:
He claims I have violent fantasies towards western sluts. This is a lie. If I could I'd just use their vaginas violent way or dispose of them.
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Holden said:
will you tell me what i had for breakfast today as well? please do. cause i know where this is going.
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More for the quote bag... I guess only Fuckbot is allowed to make shit up...

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Holden said:
so every story you don't like is fabricated?
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Dear god, he's determined to fill that bag up to the brim today...
 
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Adamska said:
Explain to me how you still type and function then
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because i still haven't killed myself. but the pain i am in because not being an insane rapist who massacres women ensured i can never get a woman. and living in a society where all men who even comprehend anything more than sex are seen as scum means that i am not just in pain but persecuted by sick animals who don't even understand why would somebody want a wife or can't relate to anything or anybody at all.
 
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Honestly, it'd be certifiably easier to get a dame if you dropped the conspiracy theory stuff, especially since it in your mind dictates that women crawl on the dicks of people who rape them. There's a big difference between being assertive (seeing something you want and being confident enough to get it), and thugging it up (which is using force or threats to get what you want).

It'd also help if you didn't try to use suicide as a gambit to get the feelies going. I mostly say that since this hasn't been your first threat of offing yourself in this Encyclopedia Conpulsus Castitate.
 
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Adamska said:
Honestly, it'd be certifiably easier to get a dame if you dropped the conspiracy theory stuff
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exactly what i'm talking about. without even finishing your first sentence you 1. claimed i could get a woman when modern western women can't even comprehend a relationship and see all men who want more than sex as losers, if not insane criminals 2. rambled about conspiracy theories, which i don't believe in and ban for on my blog.
 
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And there's your problem. When everyone around you tends to look crazy to you, it is quite likely that the thing that is wrong is within you.

And conspiracy theorists can often say "I don't believe in this moon landing conspiracy stuff posited by those nutters, that's a load of hooey. Now let me explain to you why global warming cannot be happening, and why CO2 is not a greenhouse gas." just fine.
 
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Holden said:
well, go ahead, chump. show me an example where i was made to look like an idiot.
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well, go ahead, chump. show me an example where i told an intentional lie about you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're saying that no example means the claim is false, yes? Apply that logic to your lack of example for me intentionally lying...

Ruin said:
Can I get a specific definition of what you consider "seduction" to be? From the way you talk it sounds like it means simply holding a conversation with a woman and being kind which the rest of the world tends to define as not being autistic.
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That's almost exactly what he considers "seduction"... as the quote bag shows...

Holden said:
sikotik said:
EVERYTHING that isn't "Hey I'm a provider and wont abuse you" is SEDUCTION /Fuckbot5000
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because it is.
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Sorry for posting this rather late, everybody. This was supposed to be finished on Friday. :oops:
This timeline is by no means complete. I focussed on Marijan's romantic endeavours, because they are of particular interest here and I thought I should share the first result with you guys.

General notes:
  • Marjan's actual year of birth is 1988.
  • Although he claims that his first name is spelt "Marijan", his university and he himself, on a photograph of his face he shared on his blog and in conversation with Dynastia, write his name as "Marjan". So this could be an extremely cheap attempt at faking personal information.
  • As of February 2014, he was in two relationships (=had two gfs) and had sex with four women. This seems to be the current status as well.
  • Marjan experiences a constant decline in health (and looks) and his situation in general, which is why he uses photographs of himself that go back to 2010 or even earlier
    • This probably means that by now, he looks even worse than on his avatar here.
    • Considering the fact that failed dates with women he only knew from the internet caused him enough stress to completely collapse and be bound to bed for weeks, one can assume that his mental health is in decline as well, though Marijan would probably dismiss assumptions like this or blame them on his incelity or today's society
  • He claims that until he saw the truth of Fschmidt's words, he just was a guy who was unable to get a girlfriend without the help of the Croation government. The fact that even before Fschmidt's bullshit seeped into Marijan's head, he used to have extremely disrespectful views on his fellow men and women seems to elude him.
  • He claims that since he started having sex with women, he became more misogynist.
  • He repeatedly emphasises that he was a clever child and a good student and takes extreme pride in his alleged intellectual superiority all the time.
  • He actually was diagnosed with several personality disorders (with the most diagnosed being BPD, at least one time Antisocial Personality Disorder), but never with as pathological narcissist
    • Since he is convinced that therapists of all sorts and people whose job it is to help socially ill-adjusted people are part of a liberal brainwashing/cockblocking institution, his treatment fell on barren soil and it is unlikely that he continued these treatments or that they had any effect on Marjan in the past.
  • Even on his blog, he has animosities against truckers specifically for whatever reasons.
  • Despite referring to the Bible as one of the books that could "convert" feminists, Marijan himself is actually an atheist following all neckbeard tenets (hubris, snobbery towards religious people, superiority complex etc.)
    • His emphasis on virtuous religious women seems to come from the assumption that they will put up with his bullshit, because they are more traditional.
  • He never takes any responsibility for his behaviour or his actions, it is either his love-shyness or evil women who torment him when it comes to his frequent failure in dating.
  • He was in custody at least three times:
    • One time for posting death threats on an internet forum
    • One time for assaulting his mother (or his parents)
    • One time for protesting nakedly in front of Croatian government buildings
  • Dates of interest:
    • 2007-June-16 : The girl he later stylised to "The Fatal One"
    • 2009-April: His first girlfriend
    • 2012-May: Marjan finally has sex
    • 2012-September: His second girlfriend

Because of its length, I boldened the particularly noteworthy, disgusting, pathetic etc. moments, in case you just want to skim over it.

before Summer 2003
2003
  • Summer: Marijan, age 15, starts thinking about girls againhttps://archive.today/vFVS9, another account of his however states that he has always been interested in girls. I assume he probably meant that with 15 he had the desire to get laid first.
    This is also the time, when according to Marijan, his parents should have planned and organised his convoluted "prostitute scam", i.e. hiring a prostitute to pretend to be a tenant of his parents who then should seduce young Marijan and take his virginity. He recommends that generally parents should do this as soon as they notice that their son might be interested in girls which means there is no real bottom limit, but he provides an age window ranging from 14 to 16.
    • He also describes the time before his reignited interest in girls as the last time he has been happy in his life.
  • Marijan starts visiting the IV. gimnazija, a jezična gimnazija (secondary educational institution with at least three foreign languages required in order to graduate(?)), in Utrina, a residential neighbourhood in Zagreb, which he describes as a "preppy hs for nice kids" and was no longer bullied there
    Beginning of his first depression
  • Autumn: First suicidal thoughts
    Beginning of a more or less constant treatment of his mental problems by psychiatrists and medication (esp. Prozac, Xanax, Seroxata) that goes through to 2013/2014(?)    , when Marijan decides to stop it because of his theory that all therapists, psychiatrist, social workers etc. are part of a liberal conspiracy that cockblocks him.
  • Autumn: Marijan starts a "nonsensical 'relationship'" with a girl he met online who is four years older than him and lives 150 miles away.
    • She ends the relationship a few weeks later by ignoring him. Then, when Marijan tried to sustain their contact, she starts insulting him and calling him stupid.
  • 2003/2004: Marijan starts pestering his parents and wants them to help him find a girlfriendhttps://archive.today/FGJjw
2004
  • Marijan, age 15, starts using SMS dating services in order to get laid
  • April: Out of fear, Marjan is unable to physically meet a girl he talked to through his SMS flirt services. When he tells her that they can just be friends, she gets angry and tells him to stop wallowing in self-pity
  • Shortly after that, he contacts "a promiscuous girl" through said service, who, according to him, slept with 50 guys and two girls by the age of 17, and of whom he claims he could have slept with if he could have brought up the courage to do so
    • After the second or third SMS they exchanged, she allegedly wants to have sex with him. Marijan throws his cellphone under his bed (in other accounts under the couch), out of horror.
    • He still had contact with her for the next nine months, but looking back he says he should have ended contact since it never went anywhere.
    • Retrospectively, he also theorises that he "could have lost [his] virginity right then and be a normal, sexually experienced person by now. [...] [Or that he] could have also been rejected by all of them"
  • October: Marjan talks to another girl (via the internet or a SMS dating service).The girl tries to convince him for several weeks to meet, to go ice-skating together, etc. Marjan ignores her and her advances for weeks. When he tells her that he was too scared, she says that she understands this and added that there is nothing to be afraid of and that she will help him.
2005
  • January: Towards the end of the month, he receives the last SMS from her, stating "Send me a message when you'll be able to"
    • Marjan never sent a reply.
  • The rest of 2005 however was "a peaceful year, not much has happened. [Marijan] didn’t look for girls that much anymore, [he] was enjoying time with friends. Still kissless. "
2006
  • May: A drunk Marijan whines about not having a girlfriend to another girl. She asks him if he wants to have a date with her and he agrees (in other accounts he is the one asking her out). Marijan is so nervous that he feels sick and almost faints while waiting for her the next day. Albeit asking her out for a date[?] he claims to be disgusted by her appearance. He describes her as "ugly, [having] rotten, crooked teeth" and having a boring, vapid personality. He did appreciate her personality though and acknowledged her kindness.
    • He claims that this date stopped his fear of meeting girls IRL and effectively ended his love-shyness (he is quite contradictory when it comes to this point), leaving him with only incelity to "cure".
    • He still felt disgusted by her when he came home.
  • Spring: Marjan, while being in his third year of highschool, got a PM from another girl, they talked for about three month, exclusively on ICQ and their school forum. When he asked her if she wants to have a beer with him she agreed, much to the surprise of Marijan, since they have never actually met IRL (he was too shy to approach her) despite going to the same school
    • Marijan considers this "date" a disaster because they haven't touched or kissed each other (in another, later account he states that he "never liked her physically", which is why he was shocked when she tells him that she likes him
    • Two weeks later, they meet again. She gives him a hug when leaving, only to make Marijan cry once she left.
    • She goes on vacation to the coast, Marijan stays at home. During this period, Marijan doesn't contact her.
    • In an unrelated summer evening, Marijan might have experienced his first kiss with another girl, when he was drunk with his friends (Again: Marijan is a shitty and inconsistent story teller). He calls the event "quite traumatic" and it did nothing to alleviate his love-shyness. When the girl also kissed his friends a few minutes later, he got jealous. He mentions that he never saw "that stupid trashy cunt again"
    • early September: The girl contacts Marijan and asks if they could hang out together, "this time [she stresses] without any pressure"
    • September-30: On their third meeting, which was according to Marijan under a lot more pressure since they already had two dates and knew each other for some time now, she has "the retarded idea of us meeting her friends". Marjan says he would prefer not to and she lets him have his way. They go to some park and she tries to initiate a kiss, only to have Marijan pulling his head away in fear. She tries a second time and Marijan reacts the same way (she might or might not have succeeded in kissing the sperg). They end up holding hands and talking a bit more [Marijan is very inconsistent here, in the next paragraph, he talks about being convinced "that we will get that first kiss right on our next dates. " and at the same time, he actually interpreted this date in the same blog post and in different forum posts as the incident where he actually received his first kiss.]
    • After that, he waits (without himself taking any initiative) for four entire days only to receive a message from the girl, stating that she isn't ready for a relationship and that there was no chemistry.
    • Marijan, being the classy gentleman he is, finally reacts by sending her "a torrent of messages containing a mixture of shock, self-pity and vituperation"
    • It should be noted again that Marijan in a later post says that he didn't like her looks and claims to have noticed that she isn't interested in a relationship and was for some reason surprised when she said she liked him and that, in the end, "it was all bullshit", which is probably just a weak justification for his spergy behaviour.
    • Marjan also insists later that the lack of chemistry or experience between the two didn't matter that much, but what mattered was his love-shyness.
  • October: Marijan, unkissed[?] and unfucked, spends the entire month being downcast and mopey ("I was in great pain and cried for weeks") because of his unsuccessful third
  • December: Marijan finally gets over it, tries to focus on his academic endeavours
2007
  • May: Marijan meets some minor sweetheart who rejects him shortly after
  • May: This minor sweetheart could or could not be a 14 year old girl (Marijan is 19 years old during that time), who tells his that he is "very, very late and that [he is] in big trouble", because he's still being a virgin
  • May-30: He meets some girl on an SMS dating service, where they spend hours talking
    • She plans enrolling in university in Zagreb, just like Marijan
    • they are about the same age and in their final year in high school
    • they are what he calls "a virtual couple" (i.e. They talk exclusively online and she sent him nudes)
    • they agree not to have contact for two weeks, so they could study for their finals
  • June-16: Enter THE FATAL ONE: "One Saturday afternoon", Marijan is bored and decides to use "that SMS dating service" again, just to kill time and since the virtual relationship girl is busy
    • Marijan meets another girl, age 16, there who used to go to the "same kindergarten as [he] did and was friends with [his] brother there"
    • He talks to her because "[his] basic calculation was that it’s better for [him] to meet two girls than just one – if [he doesn't] have chemistry with one of them [he]’ll try with the other. "
    • July-01: 19 y.o. Marijan meets a 17 y.o. girl (the one he calls TFO later)
    • The account of the incident is so touching that I will copypaste it right into this resume:
      "This turned out to be the most fateful day of my life. I arrived on that park bench without any expectations, without even bothering to wash my hair or choose nice clothes. When this short girl with massive tits sat next to me I frowned. It was as if I felt something bad was to happen. But she just smiled and we started talking. It was the best date I have ever had in my life, a stunning success that can never be repeated. We talked for 6 hours straight. I told her my entire life 1995-2007 and she immediately told me she wants to be my girlfriend. It was the single most beautiful event in my life. If only I knew it would turn out to be such a nightmare. "
    • July-02: Never having met her before, Marijan meets the second (older, "virtual couple") girl and suddenly realizes that there is no mutual sympathy ("I didn’t like her, she didn’t like me"). He decides to maintain their relationship nonetheless, because he doesn't know much about the first girl and is scared that she will leave him immediately after he has broken up with the second, virtual couple girl he doesn't like
    • July-03: Marijan tells TFO (the first girls, the one he likes) about the second girl. She cries, but agrees to a meeting with him on the next day
    • July-04: "Another great day", they talk about the second girl ("When we talked about it we kinda whispered… it almost seemed like we were doing something illegal, something that other girl will suffer for."). Marijan promises to take care of it, the girl asks for a kiss several times, Marijan couldn't perform the act (a passer-by walks past them when they were in an awkward hugging position, notices them and yells "Kiss her!" at Marijan). Marijan gives up trying, but promises to kiss her next time they meet.
    • July-06: Marijan meets her again, "that day [they] kissed for hours, touched each other all over, it was so natural and beautiful, such strong chemistry."
    • July: Some days after making out with TFO, he gets admitted to college
    • July-11: TFO plans to go on vacation "for no less than 50 days" through July and August. Marijan thinks it is a good idea
      • to get clingy and at the very same time tell her that he doesn't want commit to her which made her very angry and disappointed. She claims that she is still a bit sour from him having had another girl while being with her
      • to flat out tell her that he thinks she will cheat on him "with bad boys"[sic]
      • to tell her that most girls (in Croatia) fall for primitive idiots
    • July-12: The day before her departure, they meet again. in an already tense mood, they get into an argument, which ends with TFO telling him that they should just stay friends: After that, they have another heated conversation, Marijan then gets up and leaves.
      Half an hour after that, he sends her a long apology message, expressing the hope to see her tomorrow, before her departure, again.
    • July-13: He sends her another apology message after receiving no reply to his first message, but she already left for vacation
      During her absence, Marijan sends her a love song every day, since he was "so in love and so hopeful"
    • July-25/26: TFO returns to Zagreb for two days for a medical exam. When messaging to Marijan, she allegedly writes that she misses him. When he actually approaches her and asks if they should meet however, she asks why they should if he isn't ready for a relationship anyway. He starts apologising, begging and saying his behaviour was stupid. After he notices that she won't cave in, he gets angry and starts insulting her. This meeting results in Marijan growing ever more obsessive with her and TFO growing more and more weary of Marijan's bullshit.
    • August-15: About that time, Marijan starts contacting the other girl again, the one he had his "virtual relationship" with and whom he didn't bother messaging the entire time up until now. Shockingly, she states that she never liked him and that she felt no chemistry, but didn't want to disappoint Marijan. He convinced her to send a message to TFO advertising and praising Marijan. TFO stops replying to his messages
    • September-01: TFO returns from vacation and sends Marijan a message (after 20 days of not replying at all) "I don't know, I don't like you anymore". Marijan cries for several days and doesn't leave his bed.
    • September-07/08: Marijan laments that TFO left him on several internet forums
    • September-08: Marijan asks on a Croatian forum, if he should sleep with his 46 year old male friend. He did so because he interpreted his friend's compliment that he was handsome as an attempt to chat him up. He posted this seven days (!) after TFO told him it's over.
    • September: Marijan, after more or less getting over TFO starts using that SMS dating service again and chats with a very attractive girl of his age and arranges a date.
    • September-19: Marijan, having spend the night sleepless, goes out with some friends in the morning, went to the TFO's neighbourhood trying to see her and, after failing to do so, goes home and oversleeps the meeting with the girl he just chatted up. Needless to say, the girl isn't happy and refuses to give him a second chance. Marijan doesn't really care, since he managed to make TFO talk to him again, even make her say that she wants to love him again and that they should meet on November 4th. But she called him half an hour before their meeting on that day, cancelled it and when asked why allegedly told him that "any normal guy would give up long ago and wouldn’t let himself be treated that way. She doesn’t want to be with [him]."
    • Retrospectively, he is still sorry for not having killed her, and no, he didn't write this before he was arrested for planing to do so in 2008, he wrote these words in Feb 2014!
    • One of his more recent blog posts was also about her, shifting the blame for his problems exclusively on her, calling her a "cruel, sick being" who "brutally victimized" Marijan, although theorising that she was the only person ever who fell in love with Marijan and his last chance of ever being a normal person. The fact that his spergy/asshole behaviour made her react the way she did react is meaningless, since "She is no victim, just like those women I coerced for sex aren’t (one of them even became my girlfriend) ."
  • June: Gaduation from Highschool/gimnazija
  • September/October: Marijan starts studying history at Sveučilišta u Zagrebu/the university of Zagreb
  • Fall/Winter: Marijan sinks into another depression, gets treated by a psychiatrist, takes Xanax and Citalon, can't study and doesn't manage to get dates anymore.
  • 2007/2008: Marijan creates his GovernmentsGetGirlfriends agenda, starts to spam governmental and other institutions with petitions, trying to convince the Croation government to open state run dating services
2008
  • April-02: Marijan registers an account on loveshy-forums.com
  • May: A girl (I have no idea who exactly, probably TFO) agrees to meet him in the park, so he can teach her history. Still in high hopes, he quickly regrets agreeing to this meeting, since she already has a boyfriend and no longer cares for Marijan
    This could be the time when TFO asks him why Marijan just can't approach a girl in a bar and expresses disbelief in Marijan's behaviour and attitude.
  • Summer: Marijan becomes more and more obsessed with TFO, starts crying more often because of this.
  • August-05: Marijan manages to nuke the original loveshy forums by explaining his plan of a murder-suicide of a girl who broke up with him almost an entire year ago. He was reported to Interpol, got arrested by the police and thrown in prison for a month three weeks after the post. In retrospect, "[he] could have pulled it off by not telling her name, which wasn’t mentioned in the post, but [he] just couldn’t… [he] had to tell somebody what happened."
    • When asked about these posts today, he either denies the existence of a death threat or expresses regret not having killed TFO
  • August: Marijan asks the female judge of his trial if she wants to sleep with him (Source)
    • In fact, she was the judge who actually ordered his release after one month in jail, Marijan however "cried, begging her to give [him] 10 or more months in just to FUCK [him] LATER." The judge takes this whole theatre surprisingly well and tells him he'll probably met a nice girl outside again. Out of gratefulness, Marijan wants to put her on trial, next to his parents and therapists and calls her a "murderous animal" years later on his blog.
    • When his (female) psychiatrists asked him why he was unable to find a partner for almost an entire year after TFO left him, he explained the concept of "love-shyness" to her, which made her "look at [him] with a concerned expression on her face".
    • He still sends her letters years after the process, complaining that she said a social worker and a therapist would solve his problem, when they didn't.
2009
  • January-28: Marijan explains his suicide plans on a Croatian forum and actually tries to commit suicide with pills, but fails. He gets hospitalised as a consequence.
  • April: Marijan meets yet another girl through an SMS dating service, it turns out to be the same girl he once dated (the "virtual couple" girl; Note: Marijan is a shitty story teller, so I had to guess here). This time Marijan describes the girl as very intelligent, but "unfortunately [...]ugly", the rest of the date was a huge success though
  • August: The girl suggests that they should be a couple, but Marijan has doubts because of her looks. Later however, he considers this to be his first relationship, even though merely because of their matching intellectual chemistry.
    During their dates he told her various times that he wishes TFO would be here (probably since she has always been the one who initiated intimacy on their dates). The girl's answer was "But she's not here."
  • November-21: Since she has showed a lot of support, Marijan changes his mind and actually considers her to be his first girlfriend. He takes her home and when they want to make out, Marijan has performance issues again, but overcomes them and kisses her (with lights out and both their heads lying on a pillow, his first kiss since July 6th, 2007. Yes, he seems to have kept book about this shit) However, both of them are virgins and he can't have sex with her because he simply couldn't gather the courage to undress her and she shows signs of unease during the entire process. So "when you narrow it down [their] relationship had a problem contained in one short word – sex. "
2010
  • February: another setback in Marjan's Lovequest when she comes to him wearing two shirts because of the cold. He manages to take off one shirt and when he asked her to take off the second one, she got "moody and snappy".
  • Late spring: they manage to reach dry humping and stripping down each other to topless nudity, but still no action below the waist, which made Marjan "more and more sad and frustrated", but he still believes they would have sex in the future
  • He gets "worried, sullen and nervous" and since "[he] wasn’t happy with her, mostly because [he] wasn’t getting laid [...] he eventually turned her away."
  • July: The break-up was painful to Marijan, at least he says so. She leaves, but tells him she will be back the next day in order to sleep with him. When she comes back the next day, Marijan is angry at her for leaving him (after he himself turned her away), he starts an argument with her, she is fed up with Marijan's bullshit and leaves him unfucked. "When [he] realized that she wasn’t coming back [he] tried getting sex but she no longer wanted it ":(
  • This event completely breaks Marijan, "[he] stopped caring about pretty much anything, [spent] weeks without leaving [his] house or even taking a shower. [He]’d just sit in front of [his] computer, smelling like urine and with unkempt hair and beard. The end of a relationship with her was also the true end of any normal life [he] might have had" (Source)
    • About this time is also the first time he asks his mother to sleep with him, he will repeat this plea several times, but no exact dates could be found
  • latter part of the year: he chats with a girl for three month only to find out that she already has a boyfriend
2011
  • unspecific date: Marijan starts having therapy sessions that will last for several years
  • March: Marijan meets an "ugly religious girl" whom he kisses and thus "finally [breaks his] love-shyness", but it turns out to be a mistake because she, albeit no longer being a virgin, doesn't want to sleep with him and thus not granting him any benefits. He nonetheless tried to convince her to fuck him for two months until she broke off with him.
    • Marjan adds that the fact that she was ugly to him helped in kissing her and overcoming his love-shyness. They also kissed at a graveyard, which according to Marjan, is very symbolic"
    • Despite no longer classifying himself as love-shy, she still refrains from trying to chat up girls in pubs or clubs, because he thinks, he is "too clumsy and inexperienced to get girls there "
  • March-20: Marijan awaits incarceration for physically assaulting his mother ( Source)
  • March: Somewhen before his 23rd birthday, his parents offer him to pay for a prostitute, Marijan refuses and claims it's too late (WHAMBurglar
  • May: the ugly religious girl found somebody else and left Marijan
  • May-02: Marijan fakes willingness to sell out his love-shy companions (and does it to a certain extent) to WhamBurglar
  • Faking dox and trying to cover up the shit he has done in the past
  • second half of the year: Marijan fails to get a date for the rest of the year
2012
  • March: Marijan accidentally meets his former first girlfriend on the streets and they talked for two hours. The conversation traumatised him to such an extent that he was confined to bed for one week.
  • Marijan changes from SMS dating services to dating websites
  • May: In the middle of the month, a girl replied to one of his profiles and said she wants to meet him. She tells him that she has a boyfriend and that she was willing to cheat on him, according to Marijan's account. She promised that they will be having sex until summer and then again in autumn
    • In a fateful Saturday night, Marijan, age 24, finally has snu-snu, only to discover that no longer being a virgin won't solve any of his problems, but cause a new trauma for him apparently.(By the way, he wrote this information down in a letter he sends(sent?) on a monthly base to a (female) judge, begging her to help him and prosecute his parents and former therapists)
    • This is the time when he came in under 30 secs.
    • Despite finally having been laid, he wasn't to thrilled, because it all should have happened much sooner.
    • They only have sex a second time, because this girl also becomes fed up with Marijan's attitude, laughing at him, calling him whiny, weak and clingy and stating that she doesn't want to be his teacher any longer
    • Marijan was angry at her for this, but not that much, because he already had a spare girl since April 2012, but they couldn't meet in person, because she lived 30 miles away from him. But since she just recently broke up with her boyfriend, their date was largely about her being sad and crying about her former boyfriend, much to Marijan's frustration.
    • This could be the thing that confirmed his stupid idea of all women being unfaithful
  • Spring: Marijan has another bad date with a single mother which gives him the rest and he spends several weeks just lying in bed after experiencing a mental collapse
  • late July: another failed date
  • August-07: Marijan starts his blog "governmentsgetgirlfriends" on Wordpress, which will later be renamed to "thatincelblogger" and again later, as a tribute to fschmidt, be renamed to "caamib" (CoAlphaModernistIncelBlogger)
    • The idea of this programme was to employ boyfriend- and husband-free women and offer them a chance to be paid for dating single men who are unable to find a companion on their own
    • The entire idea was based on complete voluntariness on both sides, since Marjan back then still had at least a certain grasp on what women want and how they expect to be treated
  • late September: The girl who was sad about leaving her boyfriend during their date contacts Marijan again, offering to help him with his incel problem. Marijan doesn't want to use a condom, so she withdraws her offer. Marijan tries to convince her, but fails. He then proceeds to insult her and posts her pictures and dox on a blog. The girls calls him and says she will sleep with him in order to get her data removed from the blog. She allegedly enjoyed it and stayed for about one month and a half with Marijan, but he doesn't consider this to be a relationship, because she's a meanie most of the time :(
  • September 29: While still being in a "relationship" with the girl he forced sex upon, Marijan put an ad on a dating forum three weeks ago and the only girls who replies to him, says she isn't interested any longer once she saw his picture
  • October: In the middle of the month, his relationship with the girl he forced sex upon officially begins according to him and is actually a long-distance relationship, but at the same time the only relationship that was both sexual and romantical in nature
  • November(?): his relationship with the girl he forced sex upon falls apart, and so does Marian (again), "almost dying due to depression and exhaustion"
    • It should be noted that he still has contact with her, despite the fact that he seems to see her as a monster
    • He considers her to be his second girlfriend and serves nowadays as "friends with benefits" it seems
    • This woman could be the famous schizophrenic woman he keeps talking about on Kiwi Farms (Source) the one which ended up in a mental hospital for her own problems.
2013
  • The discontinuation of SMS dating services seem to have struck Marjan relatively hard, depriving him of one of the means to contact women
  • January-19: Marijan reports on his blog about his first date in 2013, which is according to him the worst date of his life so far and by far the funniest
  • February-08: Some of his friends suggest that he should try to become an independent candidate for national elections. His policies are mostly suspicious, but probably moderate as hell when compared to his political positions nowadays.
  • February-20: Marijan sends a letter to the judge of his trial for his murder-suicide plans on the love-shy forums, five years after the incident (Source)
    • He demands that within 14 days of the receival of this letter, she has to find an efficient programme which will provide Marijan with dates
    • He demands that the social worker and psychiatrist should face criminal prosecution, because they didn't succeed in fulfilling the judge's "promise" that Marijan will get a girl after going through their programs
    • He demands that his parents should be tried for murder, since they rused to give him assistance and dared suggesting sane solutions
  • March-01: Marjan has a date with the "most beautiful girl" he has ever gone out with and she doesn't like him. This results in him going home to "sob like a child" and find solace in knowing that at least he can smoke some weed and fuck his fuckbuddy tomorrow.
  • May-03: Marjan cries like a baby, takes enough sleeping pills that could have killed him, sleeps for 16 hours and ultimately feels numb. He does that, because he met a beautiful, intelligent woman who doesn't outright reject him and he now rationalises that they will never be together for various reasons.
  • May-20: Marijan reveals his views on psychiatrist, therapists and social workers, calling them all liberal monsters etc. . One of their core tenets is that God was replaced by the belief in feminism, liberalism, the effectiveness of therapies and other things Marijan dislikes.
  • May-28: Marijan tries to fake his dox again and make the ED staff take down his article
  • August-24: Marijan reveals on cracked.com that he is taking medicine and that his therapy sessions consist of 10 minutes of talk (he would have had to contribute from his own pocket to get 45 minutes of talk). Given the fact that since May 2013, he added psychiatrists, therapists etc. to his list of people who are part of the conspiracy against loveshys, it is questionable if his therapy is of any use, more so than before (Source)
    He also reveals that he has been in therapy for two years now and spent one week in psych ward because of his depression
  • August-25: Marijan posts on the cracked.com-Forums about the medication he took in the past and takes at the moment (Source)
    • in the past: anti-depressants, that never made any changes, just made [him] numb and anti-psychotics that made him fat.
    • When he posted there he took:
      • Escitalon (escitalopram), an anti-depressant, 10 mg every morning
      • Rispolux (risperidone), an anti-psychotic- 2 mg before he goes to sleep
      • Xanax, 0,25 mg- when he feels anxious
  • August-25: Marijan describes his current friend with benefit as "fat, ugly and has a pimpled face at 25. She's currently cheating on a second boyfriend in a row with [Marjian]. After she dumped the first guy she cheated on with [him] she found the current one in less than 24 hours.
  • October: Marijan, under guidance of Fschmidt, drops his GGG agenda, fully embraces Fschmidt's hatred of "the modern world" and everything (supposedly) related to it and becomes a believer.
2014
2015
  • January: Marijan claims to have impregnated a mentally unstable woman who lives with her schizophrenic mother during the Christmas holidays.
  • January-07: Marijan manages to convince his idol Fschmidt to visit the Kiwi Farms and defend the 26 year old baby cub. During the master's stay, Marijan remains suspiciously quiet. Several days after Fschmidt left without a word (and after subsequently hiding several threads on his website that used to be public), Marijan, now alone again, resumes his siege of the Kiwi Farms
  • January-29: The thread designated for Marijan hits 1001 pages (with 20,007 replies) in less than two months solidifying his position as the most pathetic member of the Kiwi Farms. A second thread is created to contain the shitposting. In the meantime, Marjan was still able to post on reddit , work on posts for his blog and suck Fschmidt's dick over the internet.
  • January-30: Marijan claims to try to rape his lesbian friend for whatever reasons who allegedly will visit him on this day – RAPE POSTPONED due to her being sick on this very day :( (interestingly, he claims that she has been sick the entire week to the point of being unable to attend classes, yet the day before he told the forum that she was that sick, he made it sound like a certainty that she would come over to him)
  • January-31: Marijan, being the supreme gentleman he is, claims to let his lesbian friend stay over at his place, which he plans to charge for/force sex on her for, since "friends give each others favours"
  • February-07: After a three-day absence, Marijan manages to come back with a bang to the Kiwi Farms, dropping hints that the person whom he broke their arm in a fight could actually be his father or his brother, adding another assault on his family to the list. Additionally, Marijan's attempts at flirting get leaked and he manages to get his dox dropped (again).

Due to its extensiveness, the timeline will probably contain grammatical errors, jumps in tense, expressional errors etc. I apologise for this. If something is unclear, please feel free to ask.
I will answer as soon as I have taken a nap. *yawn*
@Holden: Feel free to correct anything I wrote!

A more objective and cleaned-up version of this (that will be revised and frequently updated) will be used as timeline on lolcow.wiki.
 
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Holden said:
because i still haven't killed myself.
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http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

Holden said:
b but the pain i am in because not being an insane
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Gonna stop you right there. The stuff you say is pretty insane. No reason to kill yourself though, just to get some serious hardcore therapy and stick to it dude. Drop the bullshit about "THERAPISTS ARE FEMINISTS".

Holden said:
not being an insane rapist who massacres women ensured i can never get a woman.
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You know how you own a computer? Its probably in part because you've never broke your computer.

Holden said:
and living in a society where all men who even comprehend anything more than sex are seen as scum
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Actually the opposite is true. If all you think about is sex, you're generally regarded as scum. Comprehend more than that? Probably okay.

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means that i am not just in pain but persecuted by sick animals who don't even understand why would somebody want a wife or can't relate to anything or anybody at all.
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Therapy can help you relate to people.
Everybody wants some form of close companionship. That's why people get married.

Hate your situation? Try and fix it, don't sit on a forum for ONE THOUSAND, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SOME PAGES, whining about how the world is unfair to you FIVE THOUSAND, FOUR HUNDRED TIMES. I really wonder how much you could accomplish if you put a fraction of the energy you do into bitching about how the world is cruel to you and nobody understands you into improving yourself, maybe some of your hopes with your love life might become realized.
 
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because i still haven't killed myself. but the pain i am in because not being an insane rapist who massacres women ensured i can never get a woman. and living in a society where all men who even comprehend anything more than sex are seen as scum means that i am not just in pain but persecuted by sick animals who don't even understand why would somebody want a wife or can't relate to anything or anybody at all.
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You know, earlier in the thread, when you said that shit about my dad, I really hated your guts, Holden. I wanted to bash your fucking face in. But you never change. You just keep chugging along, spitting out the most vile, abhorrent shit imaginable. My hate means nothing to you. You will continue as you are regardless until you are dead.

So I'm not even going to bother. You are not worth it.

Nothing you said to me is true. You're lashing out, attacking people for having girlfriends, wives, parents, husbands, boyfriends and the like who love them because you didn't get that. You see a couple in love, and it fills you with hate because you don't get to have that, so he's a rapist and she's a slut and they're all horrible, horrible people because they have something you will never have.

That's love, Holden.

I don't know what happened to you in your childhood that made you seemingly incapable of empathy. Maybe you were dropped on your head, or fell out of a tree, or something. Maybe you just never emotionally matured past the age of 14 for whatever reason. But you lacked something, you had a hole to fill, and you sought out hate groups to fill that hole, and it has consumed you.

You honestly seem baffled over what to do when a girl shows interest in you. You cried and ran away after being kissed. You don't know how to charm or seduce women, so therefore seduction must be evil and the cause of your misery. You use blackmail and manipulation to get women, and you prey on the emotionally unstable and vulnerable, because you're too deep in your hatred to be able to get a woman any other way. You will never marry, Holden. And if by some freak chance that you did, she would leave you, and you know this. That's why you go on and on about blackmailing her so she'll never leave, and breaking her legs.

You're so goddamned terrified of affection because with it is the possibility of rejection. So to protect yourself from it, you make yourself into a target of ire. You know, somewhere deep down inside of you, that what you're saying is bullshit. But the hate is attention, and it's so much better than being ignored. And that's why you come back here, posting as often as you do. Because being surrounded by people you hate is preferable to being alone.

I feel sorry for you. I truly do. Perhaps there was a time, as a child, you showed promise. You could have lead a normal life. But instead you rejected every single bit of good advice you ever got because you're too goddamned scared of even the slightest possibility of having your heart broken. You said yourself, your mother said she hasn't loved you since you were nine, and you hate that. You hate affection and love, so you just hate.

If this thread gets closed and you're banned, where will you go? You'll run out of places that will tolerate you sooner or later, and you will find that you will not have a single ally left. Does FSchimdt really even like you? Or does he just see you as a resource on his quest to tilt the windmills of the matriarchy? Because honestly, I think he would throw you under the bus as soon as you became inconvenient to him.

You have no friends. You will never have the bond of love between you and your wife, because somewhere along the way, you forgot you were even looking for love. You don't even know what it is you're looking for, because you've had sex with women, and you still feel that hole in you. If you got married to an obedient little wife who would pump out children for you, you'd still be miserable and unhappy, because you need hate to live. It's so very important that everyone hates you, and that you're the ultimate victim, because you don't know what else to do.

I'm sure you'll read this and try to refute it with some nonsensical gibberish, call me a fag, use my dad to try and hurt me, or ignore all my points to nitpick at some tiny nugget that bothers you. You're stuck like that, and the only person keeping you stuck like that is you.

Also, show us a picture of your dog, the only creature in the world that will love you unconditionally. I hope you treat it better than you'd treat your girlfriend.

And tell your mom you love her. That woman is a saint to have put up with your antics for so long, and you never know when something might happen to her and you'll regret not making things right while she was still alive.

Now I'm going to attempt to do something productive for once instead of getting sucked into internet drama like I have been for a while. Take care.
 
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