ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Why is this thread such a shit show with daily reports? Who needs to be threadbanned for you faggots to talk about the actual person this thread is about?

Please consider banning Icasaracht, he has done nothing but tried to to derail the thread ever since he came here. He never contributes anything relevant or of interest to the thread, he only attacks the people posting here. He has attacked the regulars in DMs and on the thread itself. I know he sent @Libtard-Wrecking Krogoth a DM attacking him and has also DMed @JasonBlahasHat and other people. In his very first DM to me Icasaracht insulted me and expressed his dislike of Kiwi Farms, calling us "protofascist" (you're a mod, go into my DMs and see for yourself). He's clearly a troll and a trannie chaser who later demanded to know whether I have had sex with Nyk/ContraPoints (nope and yuck), whereupon I blocked him. I don't even know what he's doing here since he hates us so much. Also please ban ZulwayGodOfMercy, his sockpuppet account which he appears to have created to attack me personally. I have already blocked both of them but I can tell from people's replies that they keep posting here, now attacking others, still trying to derail the thread. I have never before reported or requested the banning of any single post or user here but this guy is clearly a pest.
 
>Be Nyk
>Make yourself look like a fool in a debate with another TiM because you can't debate for shit
>Create a character based on the other TiM and dedicate multiple videos to him because your hate boner is over 9000
>Said trans woman doesn't give a shit about you until you've shit the bed and managed to make the types of people you were defending/pandering to in the debate come after you for not being woke enough and when he does it's to defend you
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Edit: another one of Nyk's hate objects, Arielle Scarcella, showed up in the comments section. He probably won't be able to drag her for being "problematic" so easily this time though
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Please consider banning Icasaracht, he has done nothing but tried to to derail the thread ever since he came here. He never contributes anything relevant or of interest to the thread, he only attacks the people posting here. He has attacked the regulars in DMs and on the thread itself. I know he sent @Libtard-Wrecking Krogoth a DM attacking him and has also DMed @JasonBlahasHat and other people. In his very first DM to me Icasaracht insulted me and expressed his dislike of Kiwi Farms, calling us "protofascist" (you're a mod, go into my DMs and see for yourself). He's clearly a troll and a trannie chaser who later demanded to know whether I have had sex with Nyk/ContraPoints (nope and yuck), whereupon I blocked him. I don't even know what he's doing here since he hates us so much. Also please ban ZulwayGodOfMercy, his sockpuppet account which he appears to have created to attack me personally. I have already blocked both of them but I can tell from people's replies that they keep posting here, now attacking others, still trying to derail the thread. I have never before reported or requested the banning of any single post or user here but this guy is clearly a pest.
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It's weird seeing Contrapoints speak out about how being trans is different from being nonbinary and Blaire White stick up for him, when my first introduction to him was his debate with Blaire where he was a loud "genderqueer". He had even accused White of wanting trans genocide (or some shit) because Blaire had said that there should be a cure for gender dysphoria.

I haven't been keeping up with Contra at all over the years, so this seems like a huge change to me. Can anybody clue me in on how he went from a proud nonbinary that seemed to think that the concept of gender dysphoria was bigoted to an MTF who claims his dysphoria and transition set him apart from nonbinaries? The only thing I know is that now every extreme leftist keeps telling people to watch his weirdly sexual videos.
 
It's weird seeing Contrapoints speak out about how being trans is different from being nonbinary and Blaire White stick up for him, when my first introduction to him was his debate with Blaire where he was a loud "genderqueer". He had even accused White of wanting trans genocide (or some shit) because Blaire had said that there should be a cure for gender dysphoria.

I haven't been keeping up with Contra at all over the years, so this seems like a huge change to me. Can anybody clue me in on how he went from a proud nonbinary that seemed to think that the concept of gender dysphoria was bigoted to an MTF who claims his dysphoria and transition set him apart from nonbinaries? The only thing I know is that now every extreme leftist keeps telling people to watch his weirdly sexual videos.
I suspect identifying as genderqueer happened for the same reason some gay people first say they're bisexual. You either don't want to admit you're full deal or you don't understand yourself enough yet.
 
This article provides you with more insight than any individual user can provide in a short time’s notice:
Contrapoints and the Scandal that Shouldn’t Be. Basically she never fit the far-left mold entirely to begin with, and a large part of the late Twitter drama revolves around people exploiting these minor incompatibilities for a politically charged in-group reason.
This article mentions why Breadtube fans (who can somehow stomach the creepiness of his more recent videos) like him and why they hate him. I'm wondering how he went from being a nonbinary genderspecial (who thinks that saying gender dysphoria is a hard thing to have is like saying you're a genocidal manic) to a transitioned MTF. This is a huge change. It's not like I'm confused because gasp, a leftist isn't the perfect sjw! Most of them aren't.

Even more confusingly, it looks like he denies that his viewpoints ever changed at all. The only thing I've found where he references his debate with Blaire White, he claimed his only regret in that debate is that he wasn't "fishy" looking back then so he looked bad next to the "taco queen" or some gay shit.
 
This article mentions why Breadtube fans (who can somehow stomach the creepiness of his more recent videos) like him and why they hate him. I'm wondering how he went from being a nonbinary genderspecial (who thinks that saying gender dysphoria is a hard thing to have is like saying you're a genocidal manic) to a transitioned MTF. This is a huge change. It's not like I'm confused because gasp, a leftist isn't the perfect sjw! Most of them aren't.

Even more confusingly, it looks like he denies that his viewpoints ever changed at all. The only thing I've found where he references his debate with Blaire White, he claimed his only regret in that debate is that he wasn't "fishy" looking back then so he looked bad next to the "taco queen" or some gay shit.

Chronologically he first identified as a cross-dresser before going in for the trans card and then subscribing to the “I’m a MtF” tag. He had shown to defend non-binary people in the past but never really subscribed to that identity himself (to the best of my knowledge.) Contra is also a pathological liar so all that he says ought to be taken with a grain of salt.

His self-identification wasn’t what’d spurred the Twitter heat, nor was it the mere distinction of trans and non-binary, as both said groups acknowledge that there is a difference within the far left circles.

The problem was his way of presenting these differences, which were an excuse for people to attack him under the pretext that he is being discriminatory towards non-binary people. That’s what made the identity thing such a big deal now.

I don’t follow Nyk all too much to know the details of this matter, but in the now Blaire White merely supports him because it suits her own viewer demographic. And it rubs a salt on past wounds.
 
The Graun published a Nyk blowfile https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-gender-he-she-they-natalie-wynn-contrapoints
He, she, they … should we now clarify our preferred pronouns when we say hello?
Pronoun introductions are seen as a positive step towards a better understanding of gender – but it’s complicated

The internet is an unforgiving place. Use the wrong words, express the wrong opinion, and you can quickly find yourself “cancelled”.

One of the latest victims of the internet cancellation machine is Natalie Wynn, a trans woman who has built a large following on her YouTube channel ContraPoints. Wynn is known for her smart, surreal, Wildesque video essays, which explore everything from incels to capitalism and frequently get more than a million views.

Refreshingly, Wynn thinks about things rather than shouts about them; she embraces nuance. She is, to borrow a phrase the New York Times bizarrely used to describe the rightwing pundit Ben Shapiro, “the cool kid’s philosopher”.

But last week, she became persona non grata. Her crime? Wynn tweeted that she wasn’t always a big fan of “pronoun introductions”: an exercise in which people go around and say their names alongside their preferred pronouns. Wynn’s issue with the practice is that even though the whole point is to foster inclusivity, it can make her feel like she doesn’t fit in.

“There’s this paradox where I can go to a sports bar in North Carolina and be miss/ma’amed all night, no question,” Wynn tweeted. “But in self-consciously trans-inclusive spaces I have to explain my pronouns and watch woke people awkwardly correct themselves every time they say ‘you guys’.”

Wynn added: “I guess [pronoun introductions are] good for people who use they/them only and want only gender neutral language. But it comes at the minor expense of semi-passable transes like me, and that’s super fucking hard for us.”

(If you know Wynn’s work, the last words should be read with a hint of self-deprecation.)

Wynn was quickly inundated by angry messages from a small number of highly vocal non-binary people who thought she was invalidating their identity. She was also accused of benefiting from “passing privilege” because she is a conventionally attractive white woman. The backlash was so bad that Wynn deleted her Twitter account. The anger doesn’t appear to have abated – this week, rumours that Wynn has been doxxed started circulating.

The politicization of pronouns
Little attention used to be paid to pronouns. In recent years, however, they have become a cornerstone of the culture wars.

Pronoun preferences are a favourite joke among unimaginative reactionaries who use them as proof that “snowflake millennials” just want to feel special. In Dave Chappelle’s latest Netflix stand-up special, for example, he jokes: “Hey, what’s going on, fellas? Lady. Whatever pronoun makes you feel comfortable in the back.”

Meanwhile, pronoun introductions have become an established feature of some progressive spaces and university campuses. Many view this as a positive step towards a more nuanced understanding of gender. As Darius Hickman, a 23-year-old non-binary poet in New York says, these introductions mean people who don’t conform to traditional views of binary gender don’t feel alienated.

“Relying on clocking people’s gender based on appearances is harmful, especially since some people – oftentimes non-binary folks – can happen to look strictly binary, and a simple pronoun check makes things easier for everyone, including folks whose gender isn’t easy to tell.”

But when gender is so complex and personal, is there really any such thing as a “simple” pronoun check?

At this stage, I should probably note that although I identify as a Progressive Lesbian™, the pressure of pronoun introductions often makes me feel uncomfortable. Actively announcing myself as a she/her makes it seem like I’m making my entire identity about my gender, which feels regressive.

Further, while pronoun introductions are supposed to be about recognizing that gender is complex, it sometimes seems as though they – paradoxically – reinforce gender binaries. Announcing yourself as a “she”, “he” or “they” would appear to buy into the notion that a “he” is completely different from a “she” – and if you don’t subscribe to traditional gender roles you should identify yourself as a “they”.

Wouldn’t it be better if we just worked towards a future where “he” and “she” weren’t weighted with so much meaning? What if we worked to break those limitations down instead?

Perhaps. But, notes Lal Zimman, an assistant professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara who focusses on the linguistic practices of LGBQT speakers, we can’t escape the fact that pronouns play an important role in how we see the world. Like it or not, “we tend to take a lot of social cues from pronouns. Even hearing a pronoun in a sentence can make you picture someone very differently.” Being more mindful about them “challenges people’s ideas about how gender works in a fundamental way”.

That isn’t to say that pronoun introductions are entirely without difficulty. “I think Wynn is absolutely right that people engage with that practice in ways that can be somewhat problematic,” Zimman says. Sometimes pronoun introductions only happen when a gender non-conforming person is in the room, for example. Naturally, that person can feel singled out. In Zimman’s view, you solve this problem by normalizing pronoun introduction so everyone is clear it is standard and hasn’t been rolled out specifically for them.

It’s not just people feeling singled out that is potentially problematic, however; pronoun introductions can be uncomfortable for people who are still figuring out their gender identity. Rachel Levin, a professor at Pomona College, has observed this on a number of occasions among her students, inspiring her to write a piece for Inside Higher Ed last year that suggested “asking everyone their preferred personal pronoun is not a good idea”.

“Undergrads are often still in the process of finding themselves,” Levin says. They’re often still a work in progress. Pronoun introductions can “force people to out themselves or lie in a room full of strangers. Let’s not make the most marginalized people in the room feel uncomfortable by posing as allies.”

Levin doesn’t avoid the issue of pronouns altogether. “I usually make some statements to the class about the importance of pronouns and why I’m not asking,” she explains, “so that allyship and responsibility is signaled and nobody is made uncomfortable.” She also emails students before the class begins asking them to let her know if they have any concerns about correct pronoun usage, or if their name hasn’t been officially recorded.

Is ‘they’ the answer to the pronoun problem?
What about the growing popularity of the singular “they”? About one in five Americans say they personally know someone who prefers a gender-neutral pronoun like “they” rather than he/she, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in fall 2018. They has become so mainstream that, earlier this year, a New York Times op-ed columnist announced that we should all move away “from the stifling prison of gender expectations” and use “they”.

This may seem like a neat way of avoiding pronoun problems, but it is reductive. Professor Grace Lavery at UC Berkley notes that “people outside the trans community tend to assume that ‘they’ is a catch-all – but it isn’t. For plenty of trans and non-binary people, ‘they’ has very concrete and distinctive meanings. I don’t think it’s a generalizable term. Additionally, for binary trans people, ‘they’ is often a place where we get stuck – people prepared to acknowledge some of our transition, but not all of it. Assuming pronouns in advance, even neutral ones, can lead to significant problems.”

Zimman echoes this, explaining that a blanket use of “they” doesn’t align with the idea that people should have some agency in how they are referred to. “I like to think of someone’s pronouns in a similar way to how I’d think about their name. You can’t just look at someone and say, ‘Hey, you look like a Stephanie – that’s what I’m going to call you.’”

“We manage to learn a lot of names over the course of our lives,” Zimman adds. “We learn names that are unusual or hard to pronounce. We recognize that’s just part of being a human being and having positive relationships with other humans. I’d like to see the same attitude applied to pronouns.”

At this stage I should probably wrap everything up with a tidy conclusion. But I think the key message is that there are no tidy conclusions – other than the fact that we should treat each other with kindness and respect.

Gender is messy and complicated and incredibly emotional. Pronouns are personal, and everybody’s relationship with them is different. Which, I think, is sort of what Wynn was trying to say before she was cancelled.
The answer to the title's question is and should be a firm and resounding NO
 
This article provides you with more insight than any individual user can provide in a short time’s notice:
Contrapoints and the Scandal that Shouldn’t Be. Basically she never fit the far-left mold entirely to begin with, and a large part of the late Twitter drama revolves around people exploiting these minor incompatibilities for a politically charged in-group reason.

Reasonable article is reasonable (and insightful). And it also included a meme image that succinctly gets across part of the reason that the alt-right does a better job of “converting” newbies/politically-ignorant in online spheres.

I think Nat is finally getting a real taste of why modern left-leaning online communities are so toxic: a single minor misstep can lead to a disproportionately negative response. If they have any sense, they’ll leave Twitter behind entirely and focus on instagram entirely as their social media platform of choice. And besides, instagram is a better mode of satisfying Nat’s narcissistic urge and validation seeking behaviors.

I think this whole culture of hyper-wokeness is largely why Trump won the 2016 election and is going to win a re-nomination. You can’t really convert the committed on either extreme, and there’s also a significant portion of the population that just doesn’t care enough to vote. But the people in the political center are the ones who need to be swayed, and the attitude among centrists largely seems to be one of annoyance with liberal political correctness and ineffectual hair splitting. When the DNC puts up unabashed socialists (seriously, calling each other comrades) up as their nominees, they shouldn’t be surprised when their opposition comes across as the more moderate and reasonable option to vote for. For those who care about the US political aspects of Contrapoints’ focus, here’s a hot take by some wayyyy more intelligent than Nat:

 

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The problem was his way of presenting these differences, which were an excuse for people to attack him under the pretext that he is being discriminatory towards non-binary people.
mayb e he's just a dumb queer and deserves to get made fun of
i'd spend more time dissecting nickie's extremely deep and thoughtful videos (along with other breadtubers) but my work schedule only allows me to shitpost a few hours a week rn


also @isischariot is just a pseudo-meta-deep-troll that's mildly entertaining, so chill.
 
And he's back, but only temporarily so it seems http://archive.li/jpVdc (Trying to upload an image gives me a server error so this will do for now)
Hey all,

I deactivated my Twitter last week intending to take a longer break than this, but since commentators, journalists, etc have begun using my absence and silence as an opportunity to speak for me, I feel like I have to say something.

My discomfort with gender-neutral language and explaining my pronouns does not outweigh the needs of other trans, non-binary, and gender non comforming people. I regret expressing my feelings in a glib way that did not convey the importance of those needs. It saddens me that this mistake has been exploited by other public figures to attack non-binary people.

Thank you to those of you who have criticized me in a measured and constructive way. I will try to do better.

I have decided that Twitter is not a good platform for me, and I have turned this account over to my assistant Gwen, who will manage it from now on.

See you on Youtube and IG!

<3

Natalie
 
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And he's back

See, I told you guys he was gonna come back. I wonder who "Gwen" is. Is it the small-dick-trannie? Oh, apparently not:

Are you the Gwen that is managing Natalie's Twitter?
— I knew somebody was going to ask this and the answer is no, I have no idea who Natalie's assistant is

I guess then "Gwen" is just Theryn. Nyk called Theryn her "Vanessa" in one their recent appearances together.
Theryn is perma-banned from Twitter, so he doesn't mention it's her running his account from now on in case Twitter decide it's violation of their ToS for her to take over someone else's account after being perma-banned herself. Which of course they would never do because trannies have special rights on Twitter (just like Laurelay who was perma-banned repeatedly yet is allowed to come back for some reason).

Jesus fucking christ. Well done.

Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. You won't believe the depths of this abyss that is Penny Oaken. Just when I think I've reached the bottom, it caves in and a whole new level of depth is revealed. You won't believe what I found on top of everything else I have already presented here. I found Penny's egg-hatcher the other day... and it was none other than the voice actor who did the voice of Meowth on the Pokemon dub, Madeleine "Maddie" Blaustein. That's right, Meowth from Pokemon made Penny transition.

This is Madeleine Blaustein (1960-2008) aka "Kaiserin Kendra Bancroft von Neualtenburg", Penny's Second Life transbian girlfriend and egg-hatcher:


"Blaustein died on December 11, 2008 in Jersey City, New Jersey from an untreated stomach virus that she had been suffering from a couple of weeks prior.".

Imagine being married with a wife with a son, as Penny was at the time he met Maggie on Second Life, and then the wife discovering that her husband was maintaining a secret transbian relationship on Second Life with the voice of Meowth from the Pokemon cartoon... you just can't make this fucking shit up.

Penny decided to come out as trans in 2017, almost a decade after Blaustein's death, but in a Twitter thread he explicitly attributed his coming out to Blaustein:

It's October 9th. Every year, in some way, I celebrate the birthday of this woman: Maddie Blaustein. She would be 57 today. (1/I cry out.)

I met Maddie while participating in Second Life, where she was known as Kendra Bancroft. Maddie / Kendra built huge swathes of SL's content.

Instant match made on Second Life:

Maddie touched my soul. She understood me. She encouraged me.
She demanded nothing of me, only offered friendship, companionship, guidance.

I tend to think that attributing the coming-out to Maddie is just more retroactive revisionism on Penny's part because he has been on Twitter since 2009 and never once mentioned the word transgender or this woman's name until 2017 when he came out:

My name is Penny. I am a woman. I am not defined by my meat shell.

@PennyOaken
I will be myself. Those who matter, won't mind. Those who mind, don't matter.

So this is how I am remembering Maddie this year: by taking her advice. <3 you, Mads. Now I'm going to cry out.

For those of you who watched Nyk do the Pokemon Gamestreams back in 2017 you might see the unintentional connection here, because back when Nyk was playing Pokemon Blue he would use several Meowths to fight back, one of which was called "Dark Mother". I bet Nyk didn't even know back then that the voice of Meowth was a trannie, or that the trannie voice of Meowth had been the Second Life transbian lover and confidant of his future /r/ContraPoints & /r/mouthfeel censor. You just can't make this shit up. This story just writes itself.

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