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I get that, I just don't think he's funny. This is his idea of humor which is completely stupid.
For all of you TERFs on this forum entertaining Freudian motives for transitioning, here's a post from Penny about his mom on /r/raisedbynarcissists 5 years ago in 2014. In this post he gives some timestamps and hence offers even more clues showing that he's very likely making up his rape stories on Twitter while messing up the dates:
My NMom, trigger warning npathy, child neglect, gaslighting.
[TW: All of the above]
About thirty years ago, I was turning six years old. My father was USARMY, stationed in Italy. I attended a NATO-run elementary school, and all the kids rode private chartered busses from home to school and back.
My brother was turning five years old at the same time. I did something typical of a five-six year old kid, I was singing or repeating something or chanting or — something. My mother's latent anger focused on me (as it always did), and she decided that (instead of putting me in a timeout or talking to me or whatever), that because I had annoyed her, I would not be allowed to attend the planned birthday party.
I was very, very upset — no birthday party! I was told to "stop crying or I would be given something to cry about".
She said she'd come pick me up from school on the day of the party.
She picked my brother up - he attended half-day kindergarten.
School let out for me later.
I waited, and waited, and waited — I knew I couldn't ask a teacher to stay late, because that would be an unfair imposition on them. I missed my scheduled bus. I grew more and more anxious. Finally, I got on the last bus going past my apartments, and went home …
There was no-one home. The birthday party was at someone else's house. I had no keys. I sat down outside the front door and cried.
The neighbours came and asked me what was wrong, so in my broken Italian I'm explaining what happened, and they offer to drive me to the party. So I said, after deciding to trust them, that they could. They put me in their Fiat, and drive me around, except I couldn't find the way. We do this for ~45 minutes. Then we go back, and they set me in front of their TV to watch cartoons and feed me cookies.
Time passes. The sun gets low — and my mother shows up at the apartment, hysterical that I wasn't at the school (hours after school closed), and I'm not at the apartment. The neighbours had been watching for her, and took her to me.
No apologies. No accepting fault. No guilt — it was, at that point, that she blamed me for not "knowing" to stay at the school, so she "wasted" time coming back to the apartment, away from my brother's birthday party. I scared her.
We went back to the party. I sat in the corner and watched, and avoided having anyone see me cry.
—
Thirty years later, my father tells me that his CO sat him down at some point, stuck a finger in his chest, and ordered him to do something about the way my mother treated my brother and I — there were apparently several public incidents of physical abuse, emotional abuse, manipulation, and her flipping out on people who tried to redirect her or intervene. This was before the birthday party incident.
She was afraid that her screwup would get back to my father's CO and that would cause him to lose his posting and we would get shipped back to the states.
Every car accident she got in, it was "the kids' fault" — my first memory is of waking up in a car seat during an accident where she was going the wrong way on a highway. She tried to blame my brother and I for "making a ruckus" – except, we were both asleep. She backed up into a Carrabineri car — my fault. She got T-boned by a pickup truck – my fault.
Years and years of never helping with homework, demanding straight 100s, no privacy, no privileges, not even being allowed to leave sight of the house. I attended one party at age 18, attended prom with someone I barely knew. I was forced to attend Boy Scouts and bible camps.
At age 21 I was staying with my parents for two weeks, waiting for an apartment to become available after moving out of university housing. I wanted to go out with friends at 7PM — she stood between me and the door, said that as long as I was under her roof I had to live by her rules, tried for a showdown — I ended up leaving by a window.
Age 26: February 2002: (four months after 9/11 and losing my almost-six-figures Fortune 500 sysadmin job) My wife has gotten into alcoholism and drugs, is hitting the club, and had picked up a lover — (unbeknownst to me, I was working nights and weekends at an IT job, grateful to have an actual job in the post-9/11 economy) — my wife calls my mother and asks permission to kick me out of my house. My mother says I'm a deadbeat, that I haven't tried hard enough to get "a good job", and kicking me out (of my own house) would "motivate" me to find a "good" job.
So my first wife gleefully kicks me out, fucks her new lover in my own bed, takes my house and all the equity in it — we get divorced. My nmom never apologized for that, twists it after we all find out the truth of what my wife was doing "oh you dodged a bullet, she could have gotten AIDS and given it to you good thing you found out early."
Present day — I have a son, by my second wife - also divorced from her. Nmom thinks she can raise him better than I do. She thinks toys and clothes she buys him, she can control when and how they're worn and used and played with and whether they go from my house to his mother's. She thinks feeding him food and buying him things means she can ignore my rules and ignore that I'm his father. She tries to hit him, after I set an absolute rule that he will not be corporally punished. She tries to pick fights.
Every day for the past two decades I've prayed she would change, or just … die.
r/raisedbynarcissists - My NMom, trigger warning npathy, child neglect, gaslighting.
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A year later he posted:
Bardfinn I will not fear.
7 points
The last time I bought her something for Mother's Day, it was a small silk flower and a card.
She accused me of having shoplifted them.
That was the straw.
(That was probably just a stupid joke from his mom, but hey, we already know Penny has no sense of humour at all.)r/raisedbynarcissists - Raise your hand if you hate Mother's Day!
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Some TERFs have a theory that M2Fs are driven to transition by some conscious or subconscious hatred of their mothers. I don't know if that's true but /u/Bardfinn clearly hates his mom and openly wishes her dead.
Now let's look at the timestamps in this story:
This was posted in 2014, so "about 30 years ago" means he turned 6 around 1984 (very Orwellian, I know).
If he was 6 in 1984, he was born in 1978.
He said in his tweets that the first time he was sexually molested was when he was 6:
So, his first alleged sexual molestation incident had happened in Italy?
He didn't say anything about having grown up in Italy or being a military brat.
If he was 26 in 2002, he must be 43 today and he was born in 1976 and not 1978 as I previously calculated. (But he sounds like he's 60 on that podcast, so perhaps he's lying about his true age?) This again points to the rape stories he told on Twitter not being true, because the dates don't match from one tweet to the next, and he's getting the dates wrong here as well. You know how the saying goes: "When you don't lie so much, you don't have to remember so much."
Would you look at that people: Penny is not just a one-time divorcee goth dad but twice divorced. LMAO, he can't keep a woman around but he now wants to become one? I bet it was all the fault of "Christian PiV Missionary Position Heteronormative Orthosexuality" that Penny got divorced twice. I bet it was all the fault of "Christian PiV Missionary Position Heteronormative Orthosexuality" that his first wife was a drug addict homewrecker. Let's blame everyone and everything else but the actual people involved.
Here he says that he's is his son's "father", so does Penny now force his 10 year old son to call him "mom"? He seems to care a lot about his kid, but apparently he feels powerless against the grandparents. His parents sound pretty conservative, I don't know how they feel about their grandson having to call his father "mom" at the age of 10. I can't imagine this being acceptable to them. I am sure this is a source for more conflict.
I have co-ordinated with my ex and her fiancé to ensure he's not left in her [Penny's mom, the grandmother of his son] care alone. My father is a passive-aggressive enabler of her, and isn't capable of helping me prevent her from treating him poorly. I share a house with my parents right now, and will be moving out ASAP, and going NC with her when it happens. I'm LC with her right now, which seems to help massively in preventing her psychodrama.
Her last attempt had her sitting in front of me, demanding I pick a comb from one she was holding, because she discovered that I use my son's comb on my hair as well as his when I comb his hair (he uses mine when he combs his, but she didn't know this, didn't know I have a comb) — so she was spitting a chant that she "had to pull [bardfinn]'s dirty, dirty, dirty hair out of [my son]'s comb" - something I share with my son that is uniquely ours, and harmless, and bonding — and she's not a part of — she threw a psychodrama tantrum over and inserted herself into and personally abused me over.
I just told her that I have a comb, I'm not picking a comb, and when she repeated the demand I told her her question was asked and answered, until she quit trying to pick a fight.
This happened when my son was not here.
When I have him, I keep him away from her, and keep out of the house as much as possible.
r/raisedbynarcissists - My NMom, trigger warning npathy, child neglect, gaslighting.
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"I just told her that I have a comb", well Penny, since you apparently believe you ovulate now, did you tell your mom you have a womb too? Sorry not sorry, I could not resist. I know comb and womb don't rhyme but it was just too good to ignore. Other than this, his parental drama sounds horrible, but he's not doing anything to mitigate the situation.
Here he says his mom still hits him at almost 40 in front of his kid:
I've twice walked her out of the room when she has attempted to hit him. She responded by hitting me instead and trying to twist it into "oh he's being mean to me" whining to my father — who doesn't buy it. Once I took the shoe she was brandishing away as I walked my son out of the room.
I'm committed nonviolent Buddhist. I'm not a great Buddhist but I'm very committed to nonviolence.
r/raisedbynarcissists - My NMom, trigger warning npathy, child neglect, gaslighting.
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That last statement about being a nonviolent Buddhist is a lie of course, because he was openly saying that people deserve to be "slapped across the face" on Twitter. See, this is why I don't buy anything this guy claims, because he's constantly contradicting himself. He is not a reliable narrator of anything.
Then he says he's scared of CPS taking away his kid:
I rent a room in the house they own, in an arrangement to help my parents financially.
I am utterly terrified of involving CPS in the state I live, for any reason short of saving a child's life. I know several family law attorneys in a personal way and they all, on each side, despise CPS - it is a bureaucracy that exists to perpetuate itself and takes children from good parents and leaves children with terrible parents, and is a miracle to extract a family from. As soon as a restraining order is filed, CPS gets involved, and they're accountable to no-one except a judge, and I don't have tens of thousands of dollars to hire an attorney.
r/raisedbynarcissists - My NMom, trigger warning npathy, child neglect, gaslighting.
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Why are you scared of the CPS, Penny? You're not like Alex Jones, are you?
In a way I can see why the guy cracked and went trans/nuts. Your mom hitting you in front of your kid while you're a dad at almost 40 is definitely not a normal situation. Predictably he's a typical anti-police SJW but he needs to get over his fear of cops and just call the cops on his mom the next time there's a domestic violence situation. But on the other hand, he is clearly an unreliable narrator and cannot be trusted with his crazy mind because his mind is telling him one thing the one moment and another thing the next, which points to him being compartmentalized and his brain parts not communicating with each other to produce sane rational thoughts in a logically consistent manner. This is not "gaslighting", this is me (an impartial outsider) objectively looking at his posting history with a bird's eye view and picking out all the instances he blatantly contradicted himself (like saying he's a Buddhist pacifist while advocating "slapping people across the face"). But he's clearly too arrogant and too self-satisfied with himself to even admit that he's such a blatant hypocrite. He thinks himself a genius and everyone else is obviously too simple and too stupid to tell him he's wrong.
No wonder he became a Reddit censor trying to control what other people talk about on their own subs, he fits the profile of an OCD controlfreak. He wants to lord over others and make them into examplary SJWs the same way his conservative parents lorded over him and tried to make him into a model citizen. He doesn't realize that too they will crack just like he cracked (only they won't go trans and implode upon themselves, they most likely stand up against him and resist his censorship.)
