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Sean kisses her butt, they've never had any issues. He's only insecure about English speaking Gokus.
Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread
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Sean kisses her butt, they've never had any issues. He's only insecure about English speaking Gokus.
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FFS why does all of this shit keep going around in circles, we addressed Horikawa being pulled back when he first had 'Visa issues'. Its like KV can't find anything new to do so they just bring up old stuff that's been debunked.
Alot of 'coinicidences' seemed to have happened close to KC. Sabat had to cancel his tour and Horikawa was pulled. The recording session ended up being what I assume to be Schemmel recording his lines for Ultra Instinct, which I find highly unlikely warranted an emergency recording session as lines are recorded weeks in advance so had there been a problem with his lines, they would've picked it up and rectified it well before KC (especially since this was a fucking big and important episode). Therefore we can assume that Toei shut down the tour as well. If they were mad with Vic, why would they do that?
Probably not that it matters much really. DC Douglas's main account was hit 3 times with a band before he got his permaban but he's back on twitter with his sock and they seem to be content with not enforcing their ToS on ban evasion on the sock for some reason.
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It's hard to report for ban evasion, because there's not actually an option for it. Also, we can somewhat deduce whether Toei is mad at Vic by seeing how they handled other cons he was at. Particularly Anime Matsuri, who also had Japanese guests and likely some industry connections with Toei. It's pretty obvious the problem with KC came from either Sabat overstepping his bounds with the Vegeta panel/tour, or because the fuss that came from him leaning on KC so publicly. It had nothing to do with Vic.
That said, you can see this person just went digging to find a bunch of names who hated on Vic so that they could put it in a list to make Chuck Huber look insignificant (but somehow it doesn't work in reverse, so when Monica gets ratio'd into oblivion by people, it doesn't make her statements insignificant). If he were actually trying to dig up and keep up with old crap, he'd have remembered Reuban.
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Late and gay but...
And after that, everybody suddently had a story of their own about Vic and some 14yo girl(s), including some of the affiants.
That might also be the reason why some KVers still think that the Yost twins are teens.
I think it was initially a confusion between the Io9 article story and the Yost twins story made by one of the KV's nobodies (I don't remember which one).
And after that, everybody suddently had a story of their own about Vic and some 14yo girl(s), including some of the affiants.
That might also be the reason why some KVers still think that the Yost twins are teens.
SJWs don't have friends, only allies, and when their allies become targets, they just throw them under the bus, so they don't understand how friendship works.
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i shall third this statement. Though from probably a lot of our perspectives that was a given since her personality was already beautiful so i assumed her entirety would be.I most certainly can concur with that observational statement!
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There's an anti-slapp case in the news.
www.thecollegefix.com
There's some similarities to Vic's case. The evidentiary requirements applied to the Plaintiff during the anti-slapp phase were considered too high. The case was remanded back to the court.
This case involves Columbia University, it's a Title IX case that involves claims of discrimination. People following it have had the same complaints, that the Plaintiff only needed to make a prima facie showing and was held to a higher standard by the judge. The Plaintiff was doxxed and ridiculed by feminists in a manner similar to that of Vic.
The order from the appeals court is included in the article.
From the decision:
A few thoughts.
- This lawsuit was originally filed in 2011. The road to justice is long and hard.
- The court recognized that bad publicity is a factor in why Universities sometimes favor evidence from one sex over the other. This is very important, the publicity angle. Several attorneys I spoke with said there's a relationship between Anti-SLAPP motions and negative publicity, appeals courts often recognize this as a factor in flawed Anti-SLAPP decisions. Think about KickVic's social media the last couple weeks...
- The decision was based around construing "ambiguities in the light most favorable to upholding the plaintiff's claim." Let's remember, the Plaintiff is not allowed to conduct full discovery prior to a TCPA hearing. The Judge is supposed to look at evidence as though it were true, his job is to determine if there could be enough evidence for a lawsuit. Failure to do this is a common reason for appeals to succeed, you don't have a fair legal process without that presumption.
- Anecdotally, I've heard several stories about the Plaintiff having thoughts of suicide while going through this ordeal. I thought I'd add that here, a common characteristic to Anti-SLAPP cases that's not often discussed in the impact on the Plaintiff. Someone comes to the court looking for justice, it's denied without a hearing, he has this enormous burden to get someone else to look at the case, and it takes years for a hearing to happen. Appeals courts in some states fast-track Anti-SLAPP appeals and I wonder how much this has to do with the impact on the Plaintiff. There are times I feel like people fight against these laws purely because they undermine our confidence in Judicial institutions.
- Anti-SLAPP laws are noble in intent but incredibly difficult for Judges to get right. I've been looking for analytics on the number of successful Anti-SLAPP appeals in the US and found estimates ranging between 30% and 80%. The metrics are bad for reasons relating to what someone considers a "success" - an appeals court can find overturn parts of a decision (i.e. 3 causes of action, only 2 were overturned,) an appeal could be filed by the defendant (i.e. counter-success,) an appeal can be one of several (i.e. the judge didn't get it the first time,) and more. Even at the low end - 30% - that indicates a fundamental problem with how Anti-SLAPP laws are applied.
Appeals court reinstates reverse discrimination case against Columbia by student accused of rape | The College Fix
Fear of negative publicity’ is not a ‘lawful’ motivation for bias against a male, as trial judge claimed.
There's some similarities to Vic's case. The evidentiary requirements applied to the Plaintiff during the anti-slapp phase were considered too high. The case was remanded back to the court.
This case involves Columbia University, it's a Title IX case that involves claims of discrimination. People following it have had the same complaints, that the Plaintiff only needed to make a prima facie showing and was held to a higher standard by the judge. The Plaintiff was doxxed and ridiculed by feminists in a manner similar to that of Vic.
The order from the appeals court is included in the article.
From the decision:
A few thoughts.
- This lawsuit was originally filed in 2011. The road to justice is long and hard.
- The court recognized that bad publicity is a factor in why Universities sometimes favor evidence from one sex over the other. This is very important, the publicity angle. Several attorneys I spoke with said there's a relationship between Anti-SLAPP motions and negative publicity, appeals courts often recognize this as a factor in flawed Anti-SLAPP decisions. Think about KickVic's social media the last couple weeks...
- The decision was based around construing "ambiguities in the light most favorable to upholding the plaintiff's claim." Let's remember, the Plaintiff is not allowed to conduct full discovery prior to a TCPA hearing. The Judge is supposed to look at evidence as though it were true, his job is to determine if there could be enough evidence for a lawsuit. Failure to do this is a common reason for appeals to succeed, you don't have a fair legal process without that presumption.
- Anecdotally, I've heard several stories about the Plaintiff having thoughts of suicide while going through this ordeal. I thought I'd add that here, a common characteristic to Anti-SLAPP cases that's not often discussed in the impact on the Plaintiff. Someone comes to the court looking for justice, it's denied without a hearing, he has this enormous burden to get someone else to look at the case, and it takes years for a hearing to happen. Appeals courts in some states fast-track Anti-SLAPP appeals and I wonder how much this has to do with the impact on the Plaintiff. There are times I feel like people fight against these laws purely because they undermine our confidence in Judicial institutions.
- Anti-SLAPP laws are noble in intent but incredibly difficult for Judges to get right. I've been looking for analytics on the number of successful Anti-SLAPP appeals in the US and found estimates ranging between 30% and 80%. The metrics are bad for reasons relating to what someone considers a "success" - an appeals court can find overturn parts of a decision (i.e. 3 causes of action, only 2 were overturned,) an appeal could be filed by the defendant (i.e. counter-success,) an appeal can be one of several (i.e. the judge didn't get it the first time,) and more. Even at the low end - 30% - that indicates a fundamental problem with how Anti-SLAPP laws are applied.
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May that be what Nick was hinting at in his stream?There's an anti-slapp case in the news.
Appeals court reinstates reverse discrimination case against Columbia by student accused of rape | The College Fix
Fear of negative publicity’ is not a ‘lawful’ motivation for bias against a male, as trial judge claimed.
That sounds like something he might had intel about while not being able to be any more precise than "during the next days" on when it would happen.
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Nah. If Nick wanted to talk about Anti-SLAPP, he could have picked a number of more high-profile cases. Plus this case involves Columbia University, they are a known-quantity when it comes to defaming their own students, nothing new to see.
There is a lot of misinformation about how Anti-SLAPP works and the practical role is plays in a lawsuit. The fact of the matter is appeals are common and Judges get the details wrong. Nick might have something interesting to say about a broad review of cases and looking at the actual metrics around Anti-SLAPP - they're awful.
I was more thinking about Nick saying that this is a precedent that Ty will use in his appeal rather than Nick broadly talking about anti-SLAPP.
IANAL, but this could directly help Vic's case, it seems.
EDIT: Plus the timing alone is good. This happening while KVers are still running victory laps...
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Fuck, 2011?There's an anti-slapp case in the news.
Appeals court reinstates reverse discrimination case against Columbia by student accused of rape | The College Fix
Fear of negative publicity’ is not a ‘lawful’ motivation for bias against a male, as trial judge claimed.
There's some similarities to Vic's case. The evidentiary requirements applied to the Plaintiff during the anti-slapp phase were considered too high. The case was remanded back to the court.
This case involves Columbia University, it's a Title IX case that involves claims of discrimination. People following it have had the same complaints, that the Plaintiff only needed to make a prima facie showing and was held to a higher standard by the judge. The Plaintiff was doxxed and ridiculed by feminists in a manner similar to that of Vic.
The order from the appeals court is included in the article.
From the decision:
A few thoughts.
- This lawsuit was originally filed in 2011. The road to justice is long and hard.
- The court recognized that bad publicity is a factor in why Universities sometimes favor evidence from one sex over the other. This is very important, the publicity angle. Several attorneys I spoke with said there's a relationship between Anti-SLAPP motions and negative publicity, appeals courts often recognize this as a factor in flawed Anti-SLAPP decisions. Think about KickVic's social media the last couple weeks...
- The decision was based around construing "ambiguities in the light most favorable to upholding the plaintiff's claim." Let's remember, the Plaintiff is not allowed to conduct full discovery prior to a TCPA hearing. The Judge is supposed to look at evidence as though it were true, his job is to determine if there could be enough evidence for a lawsuit. Failure to do this is a common reason for appeals to succeed, you don't have a fair legal process without that presumption.
- Anecdotally, I've heard several stories about the Plaintiff having thoughts of suicide while going through this ordeal. I thought I'd add that here, a common characteristic to Anti-SLAPP cases that's not often discussed in the impact on the Plaintiff. Someone comes to the court looking for justice, it's denied without a hearing, he has this enormous burden to get someone else to look at the case, and it takes years for a hearing to happen. Appeals courts in some states fast-track Anti-SLAPP appeals and I wonder how much this has to do with the impact on the Plaintiff. There are times I feel like people fight against these laws purely because they undermine our confidence in Judicial institutions.
- Anti-SLAPP laws are noble in intent but incredibly difficult for Judges to get right. I've been looking for analytics on the number of successful Anti-SLAPP appeals in the US and found estimates ranging between 30% and 80%. The metrics are bad for reasons relating to what someone considers a "success" - an appeals court can find overturn parts of a decision (i.e. 3 causes of action, only 2 were overturned,) an appeal could be filed by the defendant (i.e. counter-success,) an appeal can be one of several (i.e. the judge didn't get it the first time,) and more. Even at the low end - 30% - that indicates a fundamental problem with how Anti-SLAPP laws are applied.
Looks like we're going to be here for a while. Can't wait til we hit the 100.000 pages milestone in 2027.
Seriously though, great info. Makes me feel hopeful for Vic, since the cases are quite similar.
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There's an anti-slapp case in the news.
Appeals court reinstates reverse discrimination case against Columbia by student accused of rape | The College Fix
Fear of negative publicity’ is not a ‘lawful’ motivation for bias against a male, as trial judge claimed.
There's some similarities to Vic's case. The evidentiary requirements applied to the Plaintiff during the anti-slapp phase were considered too high. The case was remanded back to the court.
This case involves Columbia University, it's a Title IX case that involves claims of discrimination. People following it have had the same complaints, that the Plaintiff only needed to make a prima facie showing and was held to a higher standard by the judge. The Plaintiff was doxxed and ridiculed by feminists in a manner similar to that of Vic.
The order from the appeals court is included in the article.
From the decision:
A few thoughts.
- This lawsuit was originally filed in 2011. The road to justice is long and hard.
- The court recognized that bad publicity is a factor in why Universities sometimes favor evidence from one sex over the other. This is very important, the publicity angle. Several attorneys I spoke with said there's a relationship between Anti-SLAPP motions and negative publicity, appeals courts often recognize this as a factor in flawed Anti-SLAPP decisions. Think about KickVic's social media the last couple weeks...
- The decision was based around construing "ambiguities in the light most favorable to upholding the plaintiff's claim." Let's remember, the Plaintiff is not allowed to conduct full discovery prior to a TCPA hearing. The Judge is supposed to look at evidence as though it were true, his job is to determine if there could be enough evidence for a lawsuit. Failure to do this is a common reason for appeals to succeed, you don't have a fair legal process without that presumption.
- Anecdotally, I've heard several stories about the Plaintiff having thoughts of suicide while going through this ordeal. I thought I'd add that here, a common characteristic to Anti-SLAPP cases that's not often discussed in the impact on the Plaintiff. Someone comes to the court looking for justice, it's denied without a hearing, he has this enormous burden to get someone else to look at the case, and it takes years for a hearing to happen. Appeals courts in some states fast-track Anti-SLAPP appeals and I wonder how much this has to do with the impact on the Plaintiff. There are times I feel like people fight against these laws purely because they undermine our confidence in Judicial institutions.
- Anti-SLAPP laws are noble in intent but incredibly difficult for Judges to get right. I've been looking for analytics on the number of successful Anti-SLAPP appeals in the US and found estimates ranging between 30% and 80%. The metrics are bad for reasons relating to what someone considers a "success" - an appeals court can find overturn parts of a decision (i.e. 3 causes of action, only 2 were overturned,) an appeal could be filed by the defendant (i.e. counter-success,) an appeal can be one of several (i.e. the judge didn't get it the first time,) and more. Even at the low end - 30% - that indicates a fundamental problem with how Anti-SLAPP laws are applied.
The fact that the discrimination in question, still gets labeled as "reverse discrimination" only when whites/males are involved shows you how backwards the system still is. It's either racist, or it's discriminatory - you don't get to put whites or men into a separate category to de-legitimize their issues. Speaking of... as the global Minority, when do white people start getting the same welfare gibs from the world that get given to minorities in white nations? Hmm?
Somehow I expect global double-standards will remain in place.
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This is gonna take forever.
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Let's remember that's typically not how the courts characterize discrimination cases. That's how feminists characterize cases, and the language makes its way into the media through a sympathetic press.
Reverse-isms inherently deny due process in that they recognize different standards of justice for different parties. Anyone concerned with fairness and equality hates these terms, they are only useful in so far as they establish similarities between different cases and legal trends over time. Additionally, they create public bias by distorting the merits of a claim. For the average person hearing about a reverse-ism, a Plaintiff has to establish they are worthy of the same sympathy granted to a member of another class as a condition of considering the merits of a given case.
We're seeing that play out with KickVic, where people overlook basic facts in judging the responsibility of the parties. Ron and Monica claimed there are hundreds of people accusing him when the reality is there are less than 10. Ron and Monica are claiming dozens of people were involved in a very extensive investigation when the reality is a short exchange of phone calls with maybe 4 participants. Ron and Monica are using photos of Vic kissing fans on the cheek as evidence of widespread sexual assault when the very people in the photos are claiming there was none. The list goes on.
Reverse-isms are coded language used to extinguish sympathy for someone who has been wronged. There was a study about the language from the 90s or early 2000s that I've been struggling to find, it tied use of the phrase in journalistic articles to increases in negative outcomes for plaintiffs. I learned about it from a law journal or the New York Times, struggling to track down a citation. But the point I'd like to make is simple - there was a time people were interested in ending this practice, it seems to have been buried with all that's happened since.
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I can't tell if he's taking a jab at Vic or KVs handling of the situation. Regardless, he should just keep mum on the whole debacle given people keep saying he's also got some skeletons in his closet
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Not forever.
This is a suit filed in the State of Texas, not California, New York, Illinois, or Massachusetts. On the balance, Anti-SLAPP appeals in Texas take 1/4th the number of calendar months to be resolved. IANAL but Anti-SLAPP appeals in Texas are prioritized over other cases, someone would need to identify the particular statue and practice.
From that standpoint, Vic might be suing in the best possible venue for Anti-SLAPP appeals to be resolved in his favor. I'm half-heartedly assembling some metrics around other court activity and will get more serious about them once we read the Judge's ruling.
This article highlights one of the things we have to look forward to. Should Chupp allow the remaining claims to proceed, it's likely the Defendants will also file an appeal. Read the section titled "A Losing Defendant’s Right to Appeal Is the Aspect of the Anti-SLAPP Statute Most Subject to Abuse." Given Casey / J Shawn / Lemoine's record to this point, I can't see this not happening.
Courts Expressing Frustration Over Automatic Right to Appeal SLAPP Rulings - California SLAPP Law
The anti-SLAPP process was intended to provide a quick, hopefully inexpensive means by which defendants, who were being sued in an effort to silence their free speech or right of redress, could dispose of such actions. But given time, attorneys and their clients will find a way to subvert almost...
californiaslapplaw.com
This sentiment seems to be common with attorneys in other states. One of the things I keep hearing is how Anti-SLAPP appeals are used to force settlements prior to discovery, appeals can be argued all the way up to the Supreme Court.
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Eric Vale is the voice of adult Trunks, and has been considered 'problematic' on a lesser scale as long as Vic has (he's kind of a jerk, basically). He's likely joking about the #metoo mentality and enthusiastic consent, rather than specifically anything to do with Vic's case. Though it may have been inspired by it, he likely won't say.
He's probably not anti-Vic, because he's someone who they'd want to 'fix', too.
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sigh well done you fucking idiot even jamie sees your stupidity.
Gay-ops confirmed
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