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Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's Secretary of Labor from 1993 to 1997, sperged out on The Guardian and has reach new levels of :neckbeard:

This would be a much more compelling argument if the Democratic frontrunner wasn't literally a senile incompetent gamboling his way through dementia, while the likes of CNN sweat nervously and maintain that Alzheimers is actually humanizing.
 
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Oh for God's sake what now
 
If any of you guys would like to see Trump’s affect on legal immigration, John Oliver has a limey rant on it for 20 min, watch the last half with Adblock on, a lot is being done. Plus you get every single globalist cliche in one video: Muh Poem on the Statue of Liberty, Muh Trump’s Wife, Muh Poor Human Traffickers, etc. Its worth a watch if you can stand the bastard.
 
I will accept a waiting period of no more than seven days in addition to a background check because I think it is a reasonable way to do things. And that would be the extent of my elasticity on the issue. If a gun control advocate thought they could get more, they would be mistaken. I'm willing to talk about waiting periods of no more than seven days.

So you're telling me that you honestly believe all of these rampage killers just up and acquired their firearms on a whim, and immediately went and murdered people?

I'll indulge this when you show me where all these people are buying firearms and immediately killing people. This is a scene from Terminator 1, not a real thing that happens.

Fact- most criminals that use guns, owned them for some time or acquired them by unknown means LONG before they used them for malicious acts. Most high-profile mass shooters spent weeks, if not months planning their rampages.

Waiting periods only existed because they had to mail off the form to the court house. Now, it's instant. Literally takes thirty seconds to get a background screening, even at the court house. You don't even need all the information you fill in on the background check, just the Social Security number.

Waiting periods do nothing- oh, wait, yeah they do.

See, a gal I dated had a psychopathic ex (well, more like a dude she dated a few weeks that was actually just really unhinged and didn't take rejection well). She had a restraining order, which is just some words on a sheet of paper. And she came home to find her dog stabbed to death on her sofa. There were threats. She eventually decided she needed a gun, because the fucking cops took half an hour to get to her place. Had she not been able to acquire one the day after her dog was killed, she'd have been unarmed in the home when this psycho tried to kick the front door in.
 
So you're telling me that you honestly believe all of these rampage killers just up and acquired their firearms on a whim, and immediately went and murdered people?

I'll indulge this when you show me where all these people are buying firearms and immediately killing people. This is a scene from Terminator 1, not a real thing that happens.

Fact- most criminals that use guns, owned them for some time or acquired them by unknown means LONG before they used them for malicious acts. Most high-profile mass shooters spent weeks, if not months planning their rampages.

Waiting periods only existed because they had to mail off the form to the court house. Now, it's instant. Literally takes thirty seconds to get a background screening, even at the court house. You don't even need all the information you fill in on the background check, just the Social Security number.

Waiting periods do nothing- oh, wait, yeah they do.

See, a gal I dated had a psychopathic ex (well, more like a dude she dated a few weeks that was actually just really unhinged and didn't take rejection well). She had a restraining order, which is just some words on a sheet of paper. And she came home to find her dog stabbed to death on her sofa. There were threats. She eventually decided she needed a gun, because the fucking cops took half an hour to get to her place. Had she not been able to acquire one the day after her dog was killed, she'd have been unarmed in the home when this psycho tried to kick the front door in.
I appreciate that you have the energy and desire to have this discussion. But if you're not going to listen to the people you're discussing with and if you insist on putting words in their mouth, nobody is going to have the discussion with you. I literally said the opposite of what you claimed I said.

Now with that said, I've always had a problem with being able to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a rifle assuming I have the money to pay for it then and there. It's definitely neat and works in my favor as a person that wants a gun, but I wouldn't have a problem with slowing that process down with waiting periods and background checks. That's perfectly reasonable to me. Though I highly doubt that will solve mass shooting suicides because a lot of these people already had the guns to begin with. The thing that changed was that at some point after they purchased the gun, they lost all hope and became despondent. And in that state you become susceptible to all kinds of bad forms of suggestion and you generally make very poor, self-destructive decisions.
You can continue this conversation with yourself because I'm not going to derail this topic any further.
 
I appreciate that you have the energy and desire to have this discussion. But if you're not going to listen to the people you're discussing with and if you insist on putting words in their mouth, nobody is going to have the discussion with you. I literally said the opposite of what you claimed I said.


You can continue this conversation with yourself because I'm not going to derail this topic any further.

I can appreciate this lengthy cluster of words that basically means "I concede the argument".
 
The Majority of Gun Violence (a shitty number on it's own because it
I'd never say the Tea Party failed.

Yes and No, It put the GOP in power again in terms of the Congress, but then they got sold out by the GOP leadership and Neocons. Which is why we have Trump now because the Tea Party voting base said "Okay then, since both parties hate us we are gonna vote in the crazy guy who might burn everything down."
 
You can continue this conversation with yourself because I'm not going to derail this topic any further.

To be fair to him, guy, I'm having a hard time parsing what your argument actually is. You seem to be implying that you're in favor of mandatory waiting periods, while conceding they probably will accomplish very little. That's... kind of a self-defeating argument, it seems to me.
 
To be fair to him, guy, I'm having a hard time parsing what your argument actually is. You seem to be implying that you're in favor of mandatory waiting periods, while conceding they probably will accomplish very little. That's... kind of a self-defeating argument, it seems to me.
I can understand that, the initial framing of this whole discussion is several pages back. Instead of platitudes and rancor, I threw an actual idea out there concerning what I'm willing to give to the control people to placate them. I don't think it would be too effective, but I hear a lot of gun control advocates pushing for "stronger" background checks and waiting periods so I would be willing to entertain their perspective on that. I don't foresee such things making it any more difficult for me to acquire a firearm.

A user named The Last Stand wanted to hear from actual gun owners and seemed to be looking for realistic responses, so I indulged.

Anyway there's a Trump rally starting so I'm gonna go watch that. Can't wait to see what he says tonight to cause a shit show tomorrow.
 
So I am watching the Trump rally last night and he goes into one of my favorite lines because it fucks with the conservative crowd.

He says "I know we have to worry about #metoo but I'm just going to ignore it and say that all the women here look great!" to huge applause.
Then he says "And you know what, the men all look great too. It's a good looking crowd tonight." and half the audience is confused and aren't sure if they are comfortable clapping for men looking good. Like clockwork every time he does it.

Also you had a room about half-full of Hispanics chanting "build the wall!"

Love you Donnie!
 
So I am watching the Trump rally last night and he goes into one of my favorite lines because it fucks with the conservative crowd.

He says "I know we have to worry about #metoo but I'm just going to ignore it and say that all the women here look great!" to huge applause.
Then he says "And you know what, the men all look great too. It's a good looking crowd tonight." and half the audience is confused and aren't sure if they are comfortable clapping for men looking good. Like clockwork every time he does it.

Also you had a room about half-full of Hispanics chanting "build the wall!"

Love you Donnie!
That's hilarious, I never heard about that before. He truly is the first lgbtqrstuv president.
 
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Oh for God's sake what now
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This is depressing for three reasons. 1) A "journalist" was fed this piece of trivial, meaningless gossip by a distant relative and decided it was worth turning into a full article. 2) That journalist firmly believes this is a massive "gotcha" that will contribute heavily to Trump's "inevitable defeat in 2020." 3) At least a few readers out there who read this trash will actually agree.

Then again, this is the kind of thing Trump can (and should) use in his upcoming 2020 campaign. When someone starts hounding him about his "claims without evidence" of media bias, he can run ads highlighting stories like this. He should also try to force his opponents to clarify their stance on pancake theft and what they'll do to combat it.

God I can't wait for the 2020 election cycle to really ramp up. It's going to be hilarious.
 
This is depressing for three reasons. 1) A "journalist" was fed this piece of trivial, meaningless gossip by a distant relative and decided it was worth turning into a full article. 2) That journalist firmly believes this is a massive "gotcha" that will contribute heavily to Trump's "inevitable defeat in 2020." 3) At least a few readers out there who read this trash will actually agree.

Then again, this is the kind of thing Trump can (and should) use in his upcoming 2020 campaign. When someone starts hounding him about his "claims without evidence" of media bias, he can run ads highlighting stories like this. He should also try to force his opponents to clarify their stance on pancake theft and what they'll do to combat it.

God I can't wait for the 2020 election cycle to really ramp up. It's going to be hilarious.
"He was here one morning I was busy making pancakes and he had forgotten my husband had died," she said. "He put a few pancakes in [his] pocket and never said 'cheerio' or anything."

I love how the article implies that he stole pancakes by "stuffing them into his pockets" as if that's even remotely fucking believable. Actually, I'm gonna' call it right now: Trump did still pancakes, but the relative was telling a story about Trump when he was 4 years old or some bullshit. Either way we've gone from colluding with a hostile, foreign government to subvert an election down to rumours of pancake theft.

We still have five years of this bullshit left.
 
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