Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Goddamn I wish they had a way to include the tone of his voice when he said those lines.
Pure text is such a flawed medium when it comes to interpretation of tone.

Just reading it plainly, he seemed to be stumbling to find the right words. The speech he was giving came off, to me at least, as pretty genuine and not as an excuse.

Looking at the tone Grigsby attempted to put in her article, I would gauge that considering how incredibly far she was from it, that the Judge was actually more toned down than sarcastic.
 
Goddamn I wish they had a way to include the tone of his voice when he said those lines.
Pure text is such a flawed medium when it comes to interpretation of tone.

I assume he sounded like redneck Severus Snape in my head with every y'all he drops so tone has never really been a thing for me.

But damn if I'm wrong I don't care. My internal perception of this makes me giggle.
 
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Well then, I've seen one track minds before but usually it's focused on other things...

The judge makes an attempt to mediate and you guys start victory dancing all over again. It reminds me of some of the boastful shit that was posted on September 5th, the day before the tcpa hearing. Making butthurt judge memes, posting pictures of lube, pretending the judge has been a bad boy and he's gonna get spanked.

Wanna know the best case scenario? They settle. Second best case, the appeal is won for Vic's side. The judge will keep judging. The lawyers will keep their jobs. This isn't some earth shattering case, you brainlets.

I saw the hypocrisy on the 6th and thought this thread as a whole was going through some stages of grief shit. But some of you are so stuck on denial, I don't think you have room for any other stages.

Personally, I want Vic to win, but you have to be realistic. This thread feels like another iteration of twitter, with people yelling into their own echo chamber. Argue the practice of law all you want, but stop pretending this is some epic standoff.

I say all this because if the tcpa went Vic's way, the other side would be saying the same things - a corrupt or inept judge. The losing side's lawyers being horrible. Arguing how the law "should have gone." It's just the other side of the idiotic coin.
Make sure to wipe your chin after sucking your own dick ya self aggrandizing faggot.
 
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Well then, I've seen one track minds before but usually it's focused on other things...

The judge makes an attempt to mediate and you guys start victory dancing all over again. It reminds me of some of the boastful shit that was posted on September 5th, the day before the tcpa hearing. Making butthurt judge memes, posting pictures of lube, pretending the judge has been a bad boy and he's gonna get spanked.

Wanna know the best case scenario? They settle. Second best case, the appeal is won for Vic's side. The judge will keep judging. The lawyers will keep their jobs. This isn't some earth shattering case, you brainlets.

I saw the hypocrisy on the 6th and thought this thread as a whole was going through some stages of grief shit. But some of you are so stuck on denial, I don't think you have room for any other stages.

Personally, I want Vic to win, but you have to be realistic. This thread feels like another iteration of twitter, with people yelling into their own echo chamber. Argue the practice of law all you want, but stop pretending this is some epic standoff.

I say all this because if the tcpa went Vic's way, the other side would be saying the same things - a corrupt or inept judge. The losing side's lawyers being horrible. Arguing how the law "should have gone." It's just the other side of the idiotic coin.
Anyone who's opinion is worth anything on here's analysis of this has been 'The judge is wasting everyone's money because this is going to be appealed no matter what and nobody has any reason to settle'
 
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Anyone who's opinion is worth anything on here's analysis of this has been 'The judge is wasting everyone's money because this is going to be appealed no matter what and nobody has any reason to settle'
You wound me.

I think Vic has a motivation to settle. I think the only thing Vic needs to win is to demonstrate he had a case, the defendants having to settle with him gives the appearance he has a case. That’s a victory,

At this stage GFM probably can still cover all his costs, (Marchi’s fees being the wildcard).

It’s the defendants who have no motivation, because they have enough reason to believe they could still see full dismissal they have no reason to settle.
 
It’s the defendants who have no motivation, because they have enough reason to believe they could still see full dismissal they have no reason to settle.

This is where I'll correct you.

The defendants should have motivation to settle. Appeals will absolutely ream the rulings in this case, and enact more and more cost for the defendants. They only get their fees back if this fails TCPA and even then they're not guaranteed anything, beyond reasonable cost.

So, while the Plaintiff has a GFM and if it goes to appeals and people continue to donate to it, the defense bleeds out more and more money, without any golden parachute.

They need to settle right now, if they want any sort of guarantee behind what this is going to cost. Otherwise, they could be looking at literally years of appeals, and at the end of it, bankruptcy and liens. This is a devastating thing about court, and Chupp is sternly warning them about the future of it. It's in everyone's best interest to settle right fucking now, or this is going to financially decimate everyone beyond Funimation
 
Yup, I fucked up. Checked back and saw that line below the whole "do it for the community". I'll let my previous comment stand as a marker of my wrongdoing.

Oh god, I think I'm dying. I agreed that I was wrong! What is this sensation, everything is turning... blocky! Is this what's known as minecrafting oneself?
 
I think Vic has a motivation to settle. I think the only thing Vic needs to win is to demonstrate he had a case, the defendants having to settle with him gives the appearance he has a case. That’s a victory,

I can't remember if Ty stated it, but I know Nick has. Vic would settle in a heart beat if Funimation would recant their statements and state they were mislead. Vic knows he can never work with FUNI again, but them saying he isn't a rapist and they were lied would help Vic more than any money could.

I still for the life of me can't figure out why Funi hasn't done this. The only logical reason is that they have proof Vic is a rapist. Any other reason is absurdly stupid.

I can't wait for the "investigation" report.

They need to settle right now, if they want any sort of guarantee behind what this is going to cost. Otherwise, they could be looking at literally years of appeals, and at the end of it, bankruptcy and liens. This is a devastating thing about court, and Chupp is sternly warning them about the future of it. It's in everyone's best interest to settle right fucking now, or this is going to financially decimate everyone beyond Funimation

They ideologically can't settle is more likely. Even if every other reason is presented to them, they likely feel like martyrs for wokeness right now. Funimation on the other hand will be decimated financially if Vic wins just as much as the rest. Oberlin college showed how much punitive damages can be levied against douchebag defendants. I'm sure SONY loves their purchase of FUNI right about now.
 
They ideologically can't settle is more likely. Even if every other reason is presented to them, they likely feel like martyrs for wokeness right now. Funimation on the other hand will be decimated financially if Vic wins just as much as the rest. Oberlin college showed how much punitive damages can be levied against douchebag defendants. I'm sure SONY loves their purchase of FUNI right about now.

Monica/Ron/Marchi are in a very curious and precarious position right now. They've been handed the opportunity to "heal" the community by accepting a settlement agreement and it's in the best interest for them to do so. They have everything they wanted out about Vic, and there's nothing else that can be brought down on him.

If they don't accept the settlement, it will make them look vindictive and selfish, not actually caring about "healing the community", while if they accept the settlement some may deign that they were wrong, but ultimately they can also spin that in a way that preserves their narrative.

This is the best chance they have to walk out of this with any sort of dignity and narrative intact. If they choose to keep fighting, beyond good reason, they will just be exposed as the shrill, egotistical liars that they actually are. So it'll be intriguing to see what course they take
 
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Monica/Ron/Marchi are in a very curious and precarious position right now. They've been handed the opportunity to "heal" the community by accepting a settlement agreement and it's in the best interest for them to do so. They have everything they wanted out about Vic, and there's nothing else that can be brought down on him.

If they don't accept the settlement, it will make them look vindictive and selfish, not actually caring about "healing the community", while if they accept the settlement some may deign that they were wrong, but ultimately they can also spin that in a way that preserves their narrative.

This is the best chance they have to walk out of this with any sort of dignity and narrative intact. If they choose to keep fighting, beyond good reason, they will just be exposed as the shrill, egotistical liars that they actually are. So it'll be intriguing to see what course they take
here's the beautiful part: The only possible settlement would have them apologize. So they CAN'T settle because it would mean publically saying "We were wrong. Vic isn't a bad person" but they HAVE to settle because the moment this goes into discovery again they are fucked. They can't win this
 
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You wound me.

I think Vic has a motivation to settle. I think the only thing Vic needs to win is to demonstrate he had a case, the defendants having to settle with him gives the appearance he has a case. That’s a victory,

At this stage GFM probably can still cover all his costs, (Marchi’s fees being the wildcard).

It’s the defendants who have no motivation, because they have enough reason to believe they could still see full dismissal they have no reason to settle.
No, Vic has no motivation to settle right now. He is at the weakest position possible in this lawsuit. Right now the defendants have all the leverage legally and have no reason to acquiese to any of his demands. If anything, because of the TCPA, Vic is in a position were they defendants have a lot of demands they could make of him in settlement.

Thus, Vic has no reason to try to settle right now other than an ill thought out 'I just want this to be over', which would be retarded from the plaintiff who brought the lawsuit.

There is no leverage to utilize to make the defendants settle until the TCPA has passed. Trying to settle now would be bending over and spreading your asscheeks for the dicking you're about to get.
 
here's the beautiful part: The only possible settlement would have them apologize. So they CAN'T settle because it would mean publically saying "We were wrong. Vic isn't a bad person" but they HAVE to settle because the moment this goes into discovery again they are fucked. They can't win this

Outside of a hilarious video apology the the other target is funimation. Ty is gonna go for the monetary award, then funi will probably deal with monica and jaime on their own after pretty much getting them dragged into this.

Volney has to know they're full of shit since if all this stuff about them hiring an abuser at the workplace and bringing him back after they protested was true, monica and jaime would have sued Funimation and actually had a case.
 
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No, Vic has no motivation to settle right now. He is at the weakest position possible in this lawsuit. Right now the defendants have all the leverage legally and have no reason to acquiese to any of his demands. If anything, because of the TCPA, Vic is in a position were they defendants have a lot of demands they could make of him in settlement.

Thus, Vic has no reason to try to settle right now other than an ill thought out 'I just want this to be over', which would be exceptional from the plaintiff who brought the lawsuit.

There is no leverage to utilize to make the defendants settle until the TCPA has passed. Trying to settle now would be bending over and spreading your asscheeks for the dicking you're about to get.

In a world where lawsuits didn't cost a thing, I would agree.

Everyone has motivation to settle, right now. Make no mistake.
 
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This is the best chance they have to walk out of this with any sort of dignity and narrative intact. If they choose to keep fighting, beyond good reason, they will just be exposed as the shrill, egotistical liars that they actually are. So it'll be intriguing to see what course they take

Even if they do settle, the genie ain't going back in the fuckin bottle. Is it in their best interests? Yes. Will it repair ANY cred with them? No. In fact they'll be seen as capitulators and apostates by their movement they preach so incessantly. Vic's side is more prone to forgiveness....their's tear each other to shreds. It's either they save their money, or their identity. Considering their ideologies, they love to burn money just to make someone miserable even if they lose.
 
If they don't accept the settlement, it will make them look vindictive and selfish, not actually caring about "healing the community", while if they accept the settlement some may deign that they were wrong, but ultimately they can also spin that in a way that preserves their narrative.

If they don't accept what settlement? Vic saying "I agree to pay all your legal fees plus you get to call me a child molester and hound me to my grave every day for the rest of my life" isn't going to happen.
 
This is where I'll correct you.

The defendants should have motivation to settle. Appeals will absolutely ream the rulings in this case, and enact more and more cost for the defendants. They only get their fees back if this fails TCPA and even then they're not guaranteed anything, beyond reasonable cost.

So, while the Plaintiff has a GFM and if it goes to appeals and people continue to donate to it, the defense bleeds out more and more money, without any golden parachute.

They need to settle right now, if they want any sort of guarantee behind what this is going to cost. Otherwise, they could be looking at literally years of appeals, and at the end of it, bankruptcy and liens. This is a devastating thing about court, and Chupp is sternly warning them about the future of it. It's in everyone's best interest to settle right fucking now, or this is going to financially decimate everyone beyond Funimation
I think we’re making separate points.

I’m not talking about what the defendants should do, I’m saying that current circumstances have likely created an environment in which they lack the motivation to settle.

They are clearly short sided people, and absent a reality check that has yet to occur, there is no reason to believe they would feel compelled to settle at this stage, even when offered a fair deal.
No, Vic has no motivation to settle right now. He is at the weakest position possible in this lawsuit. Right now the defendants have all the leverage legally and have no reason to acquiese to any of his demands. If anything, because of the TCPA, Vic is in a position were they defendants have a lot of demands they could make of him in settlement.

Thus, Vic has no reason to try to settle right now other than an ill thought out 'I just want this to be over', which would be exceptional from the plaintiff who brought the lawsuit.

There is no leverage to utilize to make the defendants settle until the TCPA has passed. Trying to settle now would be bending over and spreading your asscheeks for the dicking you're about to get.
You’re talking about factors which will make a decent settlement offer unlikely.

That is a completely separate issue from whether Vic would be motivated to settle. If a decent offer was presented, Vic would have a good motivation to accept.
 
I can't remember if Ty stated it, but I know Nick has. Vic would settle in a heart beat if Funimation would recant their statements and state they were mislead. Vic knows he can never work with FUNI again, but them saying he isn't a rapist and they were lied would help Vic more than any money could.

A retraction by Funimation would have helped... in February. After all the accusations and affidavits, it's not worth much of anything anymore. So what if Ron and Monica lied about what they investigated? It doesn't change the attempted sexual assault or any of the other things he's since been accused of.
 
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