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Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out
I highly doubt anyone even follows the "protocol" or "safe word" system in the first place. The scene with Goopy had him repeating over and over again for hours that he wasn't comfortable with the hostility and wanted it to stop, and he was only ever met with variations of "you suck so we're going to be a dick to you, sorry".
That's honestly the worst part of it all. Glip is condoning an environment that encourages yelling at someone for perceived wrongs (though iirc goopy did do some shit but idr what). Even if they weren't truly terrible and did something on accident because, well, all of them have a lot of issues so it's bound to happen, it just exacerbates the problem. If they had a problem with goopy, they should have talked to an authority figure (which I'm sure they have), in this case Glip, and she should have taken care of it immediately. Instead she likes to let problems fester until they implode and everyone can bite that someone's throat of the month.
having people you 'trust' yell at you doesn't make you feel 'safer' about them yelling at you it just hides the idea in your head that people who care about you think horrible shit about you that they don't always say. it's why kids of abusive parents get so fucked up and have trust issues.
also, it's demeaning and shitty. afaik there is nothing that supports yelling (at other people) as being healthy.
Without doubt, anger is the most powerful—and regressive—“cover-up.”
www.psychologytoday.com
this was a longer post but then idk. there's no reason for grown ass adults to yell unless it's on a construction site and no one can fucking hear you.
>Go on for like 10 pages about how your abuse is different from usual abuse actually
>Invite a bunch of mentally ill children to join your group where the abuse happens
>This doesn't come off as sketchy and not a good idea at any point apparently?
But glip is like a honey badger. She doesn't give a fuck. Wether it's being caught doing kiddy porn, caught enabling abuse or caught running her own cult, she doesn't give much of a fuck about the consequences other than someone is being mean to her online again
I just wonder when you'll stop bottling up your hurt, leave and try to explain it, only to drown under a Glip/Eevee dossier of "Shit Axi Did to Make Us Unsafe in Our Own Home!!!" like some of the others did.
This is what makes me really sad. There's no way to escape a narcissist with your dignity intact. If you try to tackle their abuse head-on, they will always be able to shout over you and win, because they are willing to stoop lower than normal, decent people to get their way. But if you try to leave quietly, you give them free rein to spin whatever bullshit they feel like and you will have no way to stop it.
Glip's Discord environment seems specifically designed to trap people in and keep them from leaving. The members are made to believe that anything can be talked through with anyone, if you're sensitive and caring enough (nope), and that you're a shallow, shitty person if you just pack up and refuse to talk through unresolved issues (double nope). With these two lies set in place, all Glip has to do is invent new bullshit problems every now and again, and the hapless victims, just trying to be good people, will find themselves stuck forever trying to "emotionally process" over, and over, and over, and over. An endless supply of drama and attention for Glip to feed on: a narcissist's paradise.
I just wonder when you'll stop bottling up your hurt, leave and try to explain it, only to drown under a Glip/Eevee dossier of "Shit Axi Did to Make Us Unsafe in Our Own Home!!!" like some of the others did.
I think they already started to drop here and there how Axi is in wrong and how generous they are to put up with all the problems he's making them to go through.
Once Axi get too broken to be the little Melanie's fucktoy, they'll get rid of him. And then KF wll hear all the nasty things about him from both oh-so-understanding Melanie and Evee.
The idea that @Meowthkip is our God-Emperor that dictates which opinions we are allowed to have is not only laughably incorrect, it's almost definitely PK projecting her worst traits onto her because she's butthurt about being yelled at.
regarding john gottman, who devoted his entire life to studying relationship stability:
In his research of thousands of happily married couples, some of whom have been married for forty plus years, [Gottman] repeatedly found that most successful couples have persistent unresolved issues, issues that they’ve sometimes been fighting about for decades. Meanwhile, many of the unsuccessful couples insisted on resolving fucking everything because they believed that there should never be a disagreement between them. Pretty soon there was a void of a relationship, too.
I'm more irritated at the fact they think we enjoy it when people kill themselves and think abuse is perfectly fine among others. Most certain they are referring to that victim of the Zoe (I don't really know the name, I apologize) thread when we announced they took their life. This thread clearly shows other wise, though.
This is what makes me really sad. There's no way to escape a narcissist with your dignity intact. If you try to tackle their abuse head-on, they will always be able to shout over you and win, because they are willing to stoop lower than normal, decent people to get their way. But if you try to leave quietly, you give them free rein to spin whatever bullshit they feel like and you will have no way to stop it.
The most effective way to handle a narcissist is to use the gray rock method until they become so bored with you and your resolute blandness that they look for a new plaything that will react as desired, which is ultimately all that they want to get from any human interaction--reactions centered around what they do. Then, when the narcissist is distracted lovebombing/investing in/otherwise acquiring a more entertaining victim with which to masturbate its ego, you have the opportunity to fade into the background (a relief to the narcissist you bore and, therefore, inconvenience) and from there, subsequently disappear altogether. They won't even notice, and they won't have frustrated investment that they have to justify by shrieking about you in public for hours because that energy is already being directed towards someone else.
This strategy consists of presenting yourself in a way that is utterly devoid of anything interesting, and requires that you take on the persona of someone who is boring, forgettable and indifferent without being passive aggressive--someone who has no opinions to insult, no passions to stir, no convictions to upset, no secrets to uncover and no desires to frustrate; at least, not by the narcissist, who will try to do all of these things, but must be understood to be manipulative and flighty, with actions that reflect nothing of value and therefore aren't worth getting upset about. This level of self control is, of course, completely impossible for outspoken, social media addicted furry attention whores that spend all of their free time participating in something like a Floraverse Discord server and shrieking on Twitter about queer representation and orange man bad, etc.
However, if the method is properly executed, you become invincible--and invisible. You will be forgotten eventually and completely so long as the emancipation is subtle and a replacement is found before, rather than after, it occurs. The narcissist is akin to a stunted child that only registers the existence of things it interacts with on a regular basis, and indeed, to the narcissist, a positive social connection is little more than a 'thing,' a collection of buttons to press for various flavors of on-call entertainment and validation, and nothing above that. This is why a narcissist throws aside people who do not provide one or both of these things with such regularity and celerity. An individual that does not entertain or validate the narcissist is not fulfilling the only functions the narcissist perceives in other human beings, and therefore, such a person is seen as devoid of any value (unless they generate money, do chores or have otherwise practical uses, of course, which is plausibly the role dear Eevee has now been shunted into with the tragic and possibly permanent malfunctioning of his girlcock.)
The key to escape, therefore, is to become something the narcissist chooses to cease to interact with, and the way to do that is to stop falling for the provocations, the flattery, the nice gifts and the nosy interest, and learn to not give a rat's ass about the narcissist or their unimportant opinions, tantrums or meaningless presents, which is done by realizing that they are both unimportant and meaningless, and that the perception that they are anything else is a fabrication created by and exclusively for the benefit of the narcissist. Let it be known that the narcissist's disinterest in you is accepted (this is a relief to them) and, most importantly, non-hostile and non-resentful, even if you might feel the opposite, so that the narcissist doesn't feel as if they have to justify their choice to abandon you for being boring in a way that doesn't look so bad to the public. A surefire way to avoid public abuse from a narcissist is to provide the impression that you agree with them, which is why they often end up with yes-men. You being too boring for them is one thing you certainly desire to agree upon. And if you agree, then they won't feel threatened for dumping you.
TL;DR one can intentionally take on the behaviors that make narcissists nonchalantly forget about/ignore people. It works and it works well. You'll certainly get some poking around for drama as they try to force you to react, especially if they suspect you're doing it on purpose, but so long as you never engage (which re-ignites interest and always gives them ammunition to abuse you with), eventually they will get bored and move on to someone that requires less effort to provoke or flatter or otherwise manipulate.
PK herself is an irredeemable bitch and her community is full of thirsty degenerate morons thronging around her miserable hand vomit because she was famous once and makes pictures for her most dedicated asskissers. If they think it fair to be treated so badly in exchange for dreadful art and hollow accolades--two of the most coveted currencies in the world of furries, let's not forget!--very well. They are getting what matters to them. Most of them are old enough to make that choice. The only people I pity in the entire affair are the damaged children. For a mercy, it is admittedly rather difficult to tell which ones they are in the great technicolor sea of autism.
Overall, this is better than cable, and I've been enjoying this latest season of Oops I Made a Fucky Wucky: World's Shittiest Damage Control.
The Discord log leak has been the finest thing since the Marl saga. May this ride never end.
The most effective way to handle a narcissist is to use the gray rock method until they become so bored with you and your resolute blandness that they look for a new plaything that will react as desired, which is ultimately all that they want to get from any human interaction--reactions centered around what they do. Then, when the narcissist is distracted lovebombing/investing in/otherwise acquiring a more entertaining victim with which to masturbate its ego, you have the opportunity to fade into the background (a relief to the narcissist you bore and, therefore, inconvenience) and from there, subsequently disappear altogether. They won't even notice, and they won't have frustrated investment that they have to justify by shrieking about you in public for hours because that energy is already being directed towards someone else.
This strategy consists of presenting yourself in a way that is utterly devoid of anything interesting, and requires that you take on the persona of someone who is boring, forgettable and indifferent without being passive aggressive--someone who has no opinions to insult, no passions to stir, no convictions to upset, no secrets to uncover and no desires to frustrate; at least, not by the narcissist, who will try to do all of these things, but must be understood to be manipulative and flighty, with actions that reflect nothing of value and therefore aren't worth getting upset about. This level of self control is, of course, completely impossible for outspoken, social media addicted furry attention whores that spend all of their free time participating in something like a Floraverse Discord server and shrieking on Twitter about queer representation and orange man bad, etc.
However, if the method is properly executed, you become invincible--and invisible. You will be forgotten eventually and completely so long as the emancipation is subtle and a replacement is found before, rather than after, it occurs. The narcissist is akin to a stunted child that only registers the existence of things it interacts with on a regular basis, and indeed, to the narcissist, a positive social connection is little more than a 'thing,' a collection of buttons to press for various flavors of on-call entertainment and validation, and nothing above that. This is why a narcissist throws aside people who do not provide one or both of these things with such regularity and celerity. An individual that does not entertain or validate the narcissist is not fulfilling the only functions the narcissist perceives in other human beings, and therefore, such a person is seen as devoid of any value (unless they generate money, do chores or have otherwise practical uses, of course, which is plausibly the role dear Eevee has now been shunted into with the tragic and possibly permanent malfunctioning of his girlcock.)
The key to escape, therefore, is to become something the narcissist chooses to cease to interact with, and the way to do that is to stop falling for the provocations, the flattery, the nice gifts and the nosy interest, and learn to not give a rat's ass about the narcissist or their unimportant opinions, tantrums or meaningless presents, which is done by realizing that they are both unimportant and meaningless, and that the perception that they are anything else is a fabrication created by and exclusively for the benefit of the narcissist. Let it be known that the narcissist's disinterest in you is accepted (this is a relief to them) and, most importantly, non-hostile and non-resentful, even if you might feel the opposite, so that the narcissist doesn't feel as if they have to justify their choice to abandon you for being boring in a way that doesn't look so bad to the public. A surefire way to avoid public abuse from a narcissist is to provide the impression that you agree with them, which is why they often end up with yes-men. You being too boring for them is one thing you certainly desire to agree upon. And if you agree, then they won't feel threatened for dumping you.
TL;DR one can intentionally take on the behaviors that make narcissists nonchalantly forget about/ignore people. It works and it works well. You'll certainly get some poking around for drama as they try to force you to react, especially if they suspect you're doing it on purpose, but so long as you never engage (which re-ignites interest and always gives them ammunition to abuse you with), eventually they will get bored and move on to someone that requires less effort to provoke or flatter or otherwise manipulate.
PK herself is an irredeemable bitch and her community is full of thirsty degenerate morons thronging around her miserable hand vomit because she was famous once and makes pictures for her most dedicated asskissers. If they think it fair to be treated so badly in exchange for dreadful art and hollow accolades--two of the most coveted currencies in the world of furries, let's not forget!--very well. They are getting what matters to them. Most of them are old enough to make that choice. The only people I pity in the entire affair are the damaged children. For a mercy, it is admittedly rather difficult to tell which ones they are in the great technicolor sea of autism.
Overall, this is better than cable, and I've been enjoying this latest season of Oops I Made a Fucky Wucky: World's Shittiest Damage Control.
This, this and a thousand times this. It's super easy to get out of narcissist's crosshairs, you just have to wait for them to find a new best friend and do absolutely nothing except for neutral, bland replies to everything they say.
yes, it's for vetting. A mod will ask a series of questions before you're even allowed in there. there's a whole list of tags when you DO get in there, including "curious kiwi." i think another tag is "clear skies" or something, which is for the kiwis who "clear up misinformation" ...???
also, there's #the-disassembly, which has "tests" that are basically just PG scenes.
I can't be arsed to go and screencap all the bullshit in the server, so here's an archive--a smidge autistic, I know, but I felt it should be done. AFAIK there is no sign of the original Redesigning Floraverse server--they've truly gone and cannibalized the damn thing.
Everything else is meh, but I'd advise you to focus on #the-disassembly and #the-assembly for more cultish behavior. Seriously, fuck these people.
They talk about me quite a bit. Seems I ruffled some feathers. One of them is convinced that there's more than one Cat Bounntry on the internet and I must be a different one from the one they knew, another says I'm dead to them for not kissing the ass of PK, and yet another seems confused that I don't post info that often. That's by design, since I keep an eye on several threads and don't have time to dig into every single person whose thread I follow.
There's also some talk about how mean I was and how I apparently flip-flopped on telling Glip to get therapy and then saying therapy wouldn't work. What Eevee would omit from this anecdote was I told PK she needed a psychiatric evaluation.
This, this and a thousand times this. It's super easy to get out of narcissist's crosshairs, you just have to wait for them to find a new best friend and do absolutely nothing except for neutral, bland replies to everything they say.
I feel like people who say this have never actually had to do gray rock. It's monumentally difficult to stay bland when you're with someone who knows all your buttons to push (and you are likely a person whose buttons are easier to push than normal, if you got sucked into their orbit in the first place). You have to deal with the extinction burst as they pull out all the stops to get a reaction, any reaction from you before they give up. And then, after all that, you basically end up with the option 2 I mentioned before: you have to sit there and say nothing as they casually shit on that boring loser that they dumped. It is never as clean as "oh they get bored and forget you exist." You have to patiently say nothing, forever, no matter what they do, and most of the time you lose a ton of friends as they side with the narcissist and abandon you by association.
Plus, this strategy is going to be near-impossible for someone like Axi, who lives in their house, and who seems to piss Glip off by his very existence despite his most desperate attempts to blend into the background and not cause trouble.
Edit: plus, if you look at the scene logs, you will see Glip going after people for "not engaging" enough. Glip actively calls out and demonizes people who try to gray rock. It is NOT an easy solution.
