Articles & Happening Meta Discussion

Articles & Happenings is the third attempt at a news board on the Kiwi Farms. It is a cursed place. Every moderator who has been assigned here has resigned within a year. During 2016, the political crossfire was so bad it spread to different boards and culminated in me banning American news discussion entirely for several months. It has been deleted in its entirety twice. There is no actual discussion here, it's people posting garbage. It leans much further right than the rest of the site and doesn't particularly conduct discussion because dissenting opinions are dogpiled by a thousand memelords posting shit they read on /pol/ without any critical analysis.

The only rules that can be enforced are empirical ones with boolean violation answers. New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing. Articles must be archived in some way and must link to the original article. Replies that are one word or a reaction images are automatic one-month bans from the board.

I'm creating this now because it seems like this place is here to stay and is one of the largest areas of the entire site. I might as well throw in bare minimum effort to improve it. I don't even try to find mods for here because they will quit, without exception. I've added new prefixes ("Business" and "Crime") just now.

Discuss.


New threads should be made like this.

 

[Clop]

If you want more left opinions, first you need to have left ideas. Most A&H is very stupid news because that's what makes people laugh, the kind that most sensible people will look at and go "jesus fucking christ." There's not going to be many lefties that are going to start defending the more mainstream left stuff, especially since the people crazy enough to defend that shit aren't going to be found on Kiwi Farms (except in the board for demanding their thread getting taken down.)

I think that there is left-positive thinking here, but barely anything in A&H feeds that because wholesome news isn't as interesting. And you can't really tell who's more left when the political spectrum is so skewed lately.

Dogpilers are more likely to throw a shitfit over someone talking shit about America, Trump or Metokur, anyway.

 

[thismanlies]

New threads must cite a real source directly and must use the headline of the article as a thread title without any editorializing.

Just to clarify, does this requirement cover any news source or are there going to be restrictions? For example, if I made a thread citing Buzzfeed or Breitbart, would that be grounds for a thread deletion?

 

[hash-slinging slasher]

If you ever change your mind about getting mods for A&H, I nominate Y2K baby and Ashy. A&H deserves to suffer.

 

[Null]

Just to clarify, does this requirement cover any news source or are there going to be restrictions? For example, if I made a thread citing Buzzfeed or Breitbart, would that be grounds for a thread deletion?

We don't have a "valid sources" list like Wikipedia or /r/Politics but I'll give both of those a pass. It's specific shit that is so bad it's basically some spastic's Wordpress blog.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Can someone exemplify for me what /pol/-type Kiwis are the problem for A&H because I honestly dont see it.

/pol/ is way worse because the entire board is filled with nazis who are ashamed of the white race falling, whereas A&H just leand more right than left with the lefties not really chosing to go on A&H to defend the mainstream left-wing.

 

[Tealeaf]

I like A&H and I feel it’s an interesting part of the Farms. It’s unlike most other boards but that’s what’s cool about it.

I think it needs mods all things considered. Several mods. It’s not an one supervisor board. Not to do anything new but to keep the peace. Dish out temp bans for personal attacks and breaking form.

Shout out to site management who have been doing invisible work to keep things going so far.

 

[ES 195]

You can always try and add stuff to the guidlines like with the CWC board.
Things like "Stop /pol/ spamming: If your comment is just 'teh evul jews' or 'whitey is righty' then everyone has heard your joke a million times and no one cares"

 

[Freddy Freaker]

Can someone exemplify for me what /pol/-type Kiwis are the problem for A&H because I honestly dont see it.

/pol/ is way worse because the entire board is filled with nazis who are ashamed of the white race falling, whereas A&H just leand more right than left with the lefties not really chosing to go on A&H to defend the mainstream left-wing.

Somebody already said its full of "r/The_Donald bootlickers". r/T_D is a shitty hugbox full of Qtard baby boomers but I dont think that's what they were going for. Please correct me if border and immigration controls arent in fact what make you an evil facist supporting the worst, most evil yet most incompetant "authoritarian" ever.

 

[autism420]

Can someone exemplify for me what /pol/-type Kiwis are the problem for A&H because I honestly dont see it.

/pol/ is way worse because the entire board is filled with nazis who are ashamed of the white race falling, whereas A&H just leand more right than left with the lefties not really chosing to go on A&H to defend the mainstream left-wing.

That's becasue any left leaning post is met with a response like "durr the democrats created the KKK and Hitler was a socialist" and other retarded /pol/ talking points.

 

[HeyYou]

Dish out temp bans for personal attacks and breaking form.

I don't want to post in A&H if you can't personally attack someone.

Can someone exemplify for me what /pol/-type Kiwis are the problem for A&H because I honestly dont see it.

Were you here for the Tarrant megathread? That thread single-handedly caused people to ask Null to consider one week wait times before posting.

 

[Diabolical diabetic]

The thing that personally makes me not want to read A&H is how repetitive most threads become after a while, we were 50 pages in the Epstein suicide thread and people were still making the same "shot himself in the back of the head" joke for the 30th time

 

[Eryngium]

I kinda like A&H the way it is, charming in a way sorta like a retarded child, but only in small doses, every now and then.

I'd be sad if A&H changed, if people want a board for quality discussion of all the latest news and politics i'd rather a new board or some be created where they can all be enlightened together, free of shitposting (though I know that's much easier said then done.)

 

[ThinkThankThunk]

Honestly I like A&H as is, and I think any changes to the ruleset would only make it worse. It may not mean much coming from someone who only really lurks at this point, but this board is pretty much the only place I can get user-aggregated news anymore. The persistent accounts at least encourage a small degree of self-control that anonymous boards can’t provide, while the uncontrolled nature keeps it from becoming a complete circlejerk one way or another. It’s increasingly right-leaning sure, but it’s not like you’re not allowed to disagree. You’re free to either retort at will or post your own discussion threads without fear of the powertripping moderation that make so many other account based forums shit. A lot of the talk can get stale, but it's better than the rot that's pervasive in so many other sites.

 

[Microlab]

Threads on A&H vary extremely, but there's generally a cultural rift between non-political and politically charged content. Separating the two into "lefy A&H" and "righty A&H" is extremely autistic, but separating the board up in general, I think, is a great idea. Seclusion and amputation has always worked for the forum in the past, either resulting in a total fix of cultural problems (ala Beauty Parlor), or in excizing the demons by fire (ala Endersphere).
The biggest problem presented there is determining the line on "political content". Anything about political figures counts, of course, but what about terror attacks? Or threads that don't start politically, but the discussion turns that way? That's something that might be a growing pain. The way I see it, if a political board were seen as a "containment" board, then threads or discussion that get too political could just be moved there.
But that would also require slight moderation, which should be cut down as much as possible in this situation.

Secondarily, sociological problems require sociological solutions. Remove ratings.
The goal, particularly in political subjects, is evidently to encourage discussion. Having a hotkey to express your opinion on a post is fundamentally against that. Nobody really uses ratings on A&H except for Optimistic, Islamic Content, and when dogpiling a dissident. If you want to call someone dumb, be a man about it and post a real, thoughtful contribution to why you think that way. Making disagreement slightly inconvenient, and forcing it to require real communication, will dissuade /pol/posters who have nothing to contribute except repetetive meme opinions. Once the memeposters are out of the running, people with more lefty opinions will inevitably post more often, since they won't just think "I won't bother posting, it'll contribute nothing, I'd just get drowned out by spergs and negrates".
Taking that barrier down will probably fix A&H by itself.
Obviously that wouldn't mean to take away ALL ratings: "A-Log" is particularly important to keep since it discourages getting assmad, and Agree, Disagree and Like, respectively, are also important, since they reduce "THIS!"-posting to effectively nil.

Third idea is to have an "Autist of the Month" contest where every month we pick the most autistic poster and sacrifice him to the volcano gods for a good harvest I think this is a really good idea because they use it on /pol/ and /pol/ is like a super cool website I go on all the time so yeah you guys

 

[The Cunting Death]

But even /pol/ is moderated.

Just Barely

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Can someone exemplify for me what /pol/-type Kiwis are the problem for A&H because I honestly dont see it.

My bad.

 

[Clop]

If you ever change your mind about getting mods for A&H, I nominate Y2K baby and Ashy. A&H deserves to suffer.

Having Ashy as a mod for A&H would be fucking beautiful. It's like balancing the scales by whacking them with a sledgehammer.

@Ashy the Angel
You have my vote, buddy.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

That's becasue any left leaning post is met with a response like "durr the democrats created the KKK and Hitler was a socialist" and other exceptional /pol/ talking points.

Not even every left leaning post. Any post that isn't exceptional /pol content gets dogpiled. It's not an enjoyable or productive place to contribute if you're not towing the line. I enjoy reading posts and opinions that are different from my own, but low quality, repetitive shitposting is boring.

 

[Null]

Not even every left leaning post. Any post that isn't exceptional /pol content gets dogpiled. It's not an enjoyable or productive place to contribute if you're not towing the line. I enjoy reading posts and opinions that are different from my own, but low quality, repetitive shitposting is boring.

That's an issue with the entire site though. The moment a thread hits 10 pages or so, it becomes supercritical and you'll begin seeing repetition in comments. It just so happens that supercritical in A&H is 2 pages because (a) people don't read anything before posting, and (b) the amount of witty one liners available and obvious to people per article is around 10, so they start tripping over themselves very quickly.

I think it's because lolcows are new shit and people necessarily have to learn before they can opine, whereas with politics, everyone already knows everything and personally holds the best possible position on any topic so they don't need to evaluate other people's posts.

 

[HeyYou]

Not even every left leaning post. Any post that isn't exceptional /pol content gets dogpiled.

See, I don't think that's entirely true. ProgKing or Bunny Tracks could come in every once in awhile and say something and people would agree. Conservative (at least, I think) posters like Syaoran Li and ConfederateIrishman will make fun of the dumber shit often enough. Really you can just look at a thread and immediately know if it's just going to be dumb /pol/ takes, and A&H is at its worse when that overwhelms everything.