Manosphere Theodore "Teddy" Beale / Vox Day / Vox Popoli / Teddy Spaghetti - pretentious self-imporant Ultra-Right Science Fiction writer and publisher, jealous of Jordan Peterson.

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Vox never used the word "Jew" in the article. The term "Trotskyite" and "Neoclown" was used. Jennifer Rubin and the NeverTrump/Stop Trump movement from the right are overwhelmingly Neoconservatives. The Neocon movement was founded by Trotskyites who were mad at the USSR since the Soviets kicked removed them from power. I don't get how "Jew sperging" and "conspiracy theory" are taken as some kind of argument here.

Maybe he didn't use the word "Jew" in this article, but his article is not in a vacuum. We know more of his articles, and he is clearly an anti-semite. I have no doubt about it. He wants all the Jews removed from America, he blames Jews for infecting conservatism (and destroying America), and his critique of Ben Shapiro has often anti-semitic undertones. One of his accusations against Jordan Peterson was that he is "too cowardly" to "properly" address JQ.

I'm not sure if you are being disingenuous here, or you are simply not so well-versed in the "works" of your idol as you claim to be. There are many points where VD is right, but there are many parts of his rhetoric that are too simplistic and on the level of a high-school dropout who is blaming others for his failures. Coupled with his patronizing attitude towards his fans it makes it very hard to take him seriously.

 

[Saul]

Cue teddy spaghetti awkward pause
Ps revenge of the cis guys brought this guy to my attention

 

[GranDuke]

Don't forget some of his posts about how Judaism is literally satanic.

 

[Ash Gassem]

Maybe he didn't use the word "Jew" in this article, but his article is not in a vacuum. We know more of his articles, and he is clearly an anti-semite. I have no doubt about it. He wants all the Jews removed from America, he blames Jews for infecting conservatism (and destroying America), and his critique of Ben Shapiro has often anti-semitic undertones. One of his accusations against Jordan Peterson was that he is "too cowardly" to "properly" address JQ.

I'm not sure if you are being disingenuous here, or you are simply not so well-versed in the "works" of your idol as you claim to be. There are many points where VD is right, but there are many parts of his rhetoric that are too simplistic and on the level of a high-school dropout who is blaming others for his failures. Coupled with his patronizing attitude towards his fans it makes it very hard to take him seriously.

An anti-semite being someone who hates jews more than absolutely necessary, I don't think Teddy qualifies. His healthy disdain for jewry is one of his few commendable traits.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

An anti-semite being someone who hates jews more than absolutely necessary, I don't think Teddy qualifies. His healthy disdain for jewry is one of his few commendable traits.

Yes, we get it, you are from /pol/.

 

[BR55]

Yeah.... I think there was a little unpleasantness that occurred around the 1860s....

And that demonstrates how skewed the rest of your post is. If you want details, start the thread.

Meanwhile Vox has to turn what could be legit criticism into more Jew sperging.

Vox Popoli: The skinsuits show themselves

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Ah yes shitting on NeoCons...
If only Teddy could stay on topic instead of sperging about Da Jews and Troskyist infiltration.
Vox if you must shit on the likes of Rubin and Kristol do it because like all NeoLibs/NeoCons they're principle lacking, morality lacking, loyalty lacking rats who couldn't care less if the country burned as long as their precious Free Trade and Interventionism were maintained.
The End of History must be made way for after all.
Shit on them for being lying, conniving pseudo-conservatives who sell out the moment they think they can get asspats from liberals.
Not because your Alt-Right addled brain is convinced of "Kike Trickery" and "Commie Subversion".

 

[Flexo]

I've got a big backlog to get caught up on, but until then, here is his reaction to Jordan Peterson's recent troubles.

Reminder, this is from a man who sued Gab over mean things said about his wife. But sure, JBP isn't having stress over his wife's cancer. (Never mind that if he was doing it for attention, why do this now, when his wife's prognosis is improving? Instead of during the time his wife would have had max attention?)

Vox Popoli: He took his damn pills

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Vox Popoli: The victory of the secret king

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[Capsaicin Addict]

I've got a big backlog to get caught up on, but until then, here is his reaction to Jordan Peterson's recent troubles.

Reminder, this is from a man who sued Gab over mean things said about his wife. But sure, JBP isn't having stress over his wife's cancer. (Never mind that if he was doing it for attention, why do this now, when his wife's prognosis is improving? Instead of during the time his wife would have had max attention?)

Vox Popoli: He took his damn pills

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Vox Popoli: The victory of the secret king

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Stay classy, Teddy.

Just remember, those sleeping dragons look an awful lot like secret kings... until they wake up and skullfuck you for bothering them.

 

[Flexo]

Ok. Part 1 of a massive catch up.

Reminder, this post is from a guy WHO SUED GAB because his wife was insulted. (And I'm fairly sure has threatened other lawsuits.)

Vox Popoli: "You should just sue them"

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The more interesting one of his gamergate sperging. (And I'm even a bit sympathetic to GG.)

Vox Popoli: A fake conservative's fake history of GamerGate

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This is what bugs me about Vox. He'll complain about people not mentioning him, but won't extend the courtesy of mentioning any of the other conservative efforts out there making art. (Of which I know a few.) You know, Vox, maybe if you wanted shout-outs you should do the same for others. "Treat others the way you want to be treated." I remember someone saying.

Vox Popoli: Years late and dollars short

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So I post this one for the "official story rarely true" line.

Vox Popoli: The first conspiracy theorist

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Oh. Unless it's from China. We all know their official story is legit.

Vox Popoli: As if they don't

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[Rekkington]

Of all the words of screen and pen
The most painful are these:
Vox was right again.

What a colossal fag.

 

[Rice Is Ready]

Maybe he didn't use the word "Jew" in this article, but his article is not in a vacuum. We know more of his articles, and he is clearly an anti-semite.

He has his retarded pet bear Owen do all the Jew bashing for him. Although there's nothing wrong with being anti-semitic, Owen does it in such an unfunny and off putting way. Why is the Owen thread still locked anyway? He has proven to be a trainwreck.

 

[White Devil's Advocate]

I've got a big backlog to get caught up on, but until then, here is his reaction to Jordan Peterson's recent troubles.

Reminder, this is from a man who sued Gab over mean things said about his wife. But sure, JBP isn't having stress over his wife's cancer. (Never mind that if he was doing it for attention, why do this now, when his wife's prognosis is improving? Instead of during the time his wife would have had max attention?)

Vox Popoli: He took his damn pills

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Vox Popoli: The victory of the secret king

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You know what? I actually wish "Emperor of Man" was a real position and Vox ran for it. Because one of two things would happen. He would either:

A) Lose, in which case we'd get the inevitable but sad and pathetic blog post about how he could have totally won but chose not to. Or:

B) And the more hilarious one, he wins and he still gets absolutely no respect and still gets dogged out openly to his face.

Plus Emperor Teddy Spaghetti has a nice ring to it. If this happened we would find out we're not alone in the universe because every alien species would collectively laugh at us for at least the next millennia.

 

[TitanWest]

Reminder, this post is from a guy WHO SUED GAB because his wife was insulted. (And I'm fairly sure has threatened other lawsuits.)

He didn't say don't sue. He's sued plenty of times. He said don't sue too casually. He only enters cases he can win like when he sued IndieGoGo. He also does it for free via a volunteer network and takes the general direction of the own suit rather than let lawyers do everything. It's decent advice and it worked. He brought IndieGoGo to its knees.

The more interesting one of his gamergate sperging. (And I'm even a bit sympathetic to GG.)

Vox is right. Gatekeepers are awful. They're the ones who will both betray you to The Left and land the final killing blow to The Right. You seem not to like Vox criticizing other "Rightwingers" and others say Vox is jealous. He's not. He doesn't go after Tucker Carlson or Ann Coulter. He goes after Gatekeepers who are the greatest threat to The Right.

This is what bugs me about Vox. He'll complain about people not mentioning him, but won't extend the courtesy of mentioning any of the other conservative efforts out there making art. (Of which I know a few.) You know, Vox, maybe if you wanted shout-outs you should do the same for others. "Treat others the way you want to be treated." I remember someone saying.

Did these conservatives shout out Vox or Nationalism? Or were they gatekeepers?

So I post this one for the "official story rarely true" line.


Oh. Unless it's from China. We all know their official story is legit.

The story came from leaks, not China.

 

[Flexo]

He didn't say don't sue. He's sued plenty of times. He said don't sue too casually. He only enters cases he can win like when he sued IndieGoGo. He also does it for free via a volunteer network and takes the general direction of the own suit rather than let lawyers do everything. It's decent advice and it worked. He brought IndieGoGo to its knees.

And how is the lawsuit with Gab going? Do explain how suing a company over his wife's honor isn't suing too casually. I need the laugh.

Vox is right. Gatekeepers are awful. They're the ones who will both betray you to The Left and land the final killing blow to The Right. You seem not to like Vox criticizing other "Rightwingers" and others say Vox is jealous. He's not. He doesn't go after Tucker Carlson or Ann Coulter. He goes after Gatekeepers who are the greatest threat to The Right.

In what way are they "gatekeepers"? I haven't noticed their ignoring of Vox has interfered with his publishing efforts any. What I don't "like" is hypocrisy and Vox is thick with it.

Did these conservatives shout out Vox or Nationalism? Or were they gatekeepers?

So your definition of a gatekeeper is someone who doesn't shout out someone else? Then Vox himself is a gatekeeper and one of the things he hates. (which I've pointed out for awhile)

That he has, of late, praised the principle at the root of gatekeeping has been a source of amusement.

The story came from leaks, not China.

. . .
Where do you suppose leaks get their info? Think about it a minute.

 

[grixis]

He didn't say don't sue. He's sued plenty of times. He said don't sue too casually. He only enters cases he can win like when he sued IndieGoGo. He also does it for free via a volunteer network and takes the general direction of the own suit rather than let lawyers do everything. It's decent advice and it worked. He brought IndieGoGo to its knees.

Can you provide proof of this please? I searched and found he sued IndieGoGo but nothing about him winning.

Also in addition to Flexo's question about the Gab lawsuit, didn't Vox Day also claim to be suing the SFWA at some point? How did that one go?

 

[GranDuke]

This is what bugs me about Vox. He'll complain about people not mentioning him, but won't extend the courtesy of mentioning any of the other conservative efforts out there making art. (Of which I know a few.)

Care to share them?

 

[Flexo]

Care to share them?

Sure. You can PM me for more if you wish as i think a problem with conservatives is often insufficient networking.

For an example, I'll provide two ends of Vox's spectrum. First up at the "gatekeeper" end is Andrew Klavan's "another kingdom." (He's also worked on movies.)

Another Kingdom

A young Hollywood wannabe Austin Lively walks through a door and suddenly finds himself a murder suspect in a bizarre fantasy land.

www.dailywire.com

On the opposite side is the small press superversive, which has worked to publish authors Vox has worked with in the past, so hardly anything like a gatekeeper. (Rather it just has a style so it doesn't print books not in keeping with said style.)

Superversive SF - Science Fiction for a More Civilized Age

Science Fiction for a More Civilized Age

www.superversivesf.com

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

He didn't say don't sue. He's sued plenty of times. He said don't sue too casually. He only enters cases he can win like when he sued IndieGoGo. He also does it for free via a volunteer network and takes the general direction of the own suit rather than let lawyers do everything. It's decent advice and it worked. He brought IndieGoGo to its knees.

Vox is right. Gatekeepers are awful. They're the ones who will both betray you to The Left and land the final killing blow to The Right. You seem not to like Vox criticizing other "Rightwingers" and others say Vox is jealous. He's not. He doesn't go after Tucker Carlson or Ann Coulter. He goes after Gatekeepers who are the greatest threat to The Right.

Did these conservatives shout out Vox or Nationalism? Or were they gatekeepers?
The story came from leaks, not China.

Well, I thought you are doing a movie, and Unauthorized TV, and so many other time-consuming projects. I had no idea you still had time to come to a shitposting forum to defend yourself. You must be really a supergenius who is adept at managing his time and prioritizing his activities.

 

[TitanWest]

And how is the lawsuit with Gab going? Do explain how suing a company over his wife's honor isn't suing too casually. I need the laugh.

I got into Vox after the Gab dispute. Never agreed with Vox feuding with Torba or with Anglin. Looks like he dropped the suit quickly. Sounds like he took his own advice.

In what way are they "gatekeepers"? I haven't noticed their ignoring of Vox has interfered with his publishing efforts any. What I don't "like" is hypocrisy and Vox is thick with it.

I don't know who these people are. Vox shoutouts Nationalists who do good work and he shoutouts people who shoutout him.

So your definition of a gatekeeper is someone who doesn't shout out someone else? Then Vox himself is a gatekeeper and one of the things he hates. (which I've pointed out for awhile)

That's not my definition. I didn't mean to imply that you have to constantly give shoutouts or you're a gatekeeper. What I meant was that shouting out a gatekeeper who also doesn't shout you out is a bad idea. Who are these conservative artists you speak of? I don't know if they're gatekeepers or not.

The best way to see if someone's a gatekeeper (Whether knowingly or not) is a combination of things. Being promoted as "fake opposition" by The Left is a HUGE redflag. The "authoritative" conservatives and centrists being promoted by Youtube, The Guardian, and NY Times are gatekeepers. The Anarcho-Communists LARPing as revolutionaries while being promoted by the NY Times as deradicalizers are "fake opposition".
. . .

Where do you suppose leaks get their info? Think about it a minute.

Whistleblowers. No one denies the fact that the US gov't has bugged its tech. The Chinese are simply pointing out an uncontroversial fact. The Western politicians/deep state who spy on us have no business pointing fingers at others to distract from their own misdeeds.

Can you provide proof of this please? I searched and found he sued IndieGoGo but nothing about him winning.

Also in addition to Flexo's question about the Gab lawsuit, didn't Vox Day also claim to be suing the SFWA at some point? How did that one go?

The suit was arbitrated. A volunteer network handled the suit so Vox got IndieGoGo to cave for free. He can't divulge what the details were, but since it was settled before it even went to court they're undoubtedly good. If things went bad we'd have a judge shoot the case down like Vic Mignona's case. Also several c-suite execs at IndieGoGo left which is also nice.

Vox Popoli: Round two: fired

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Vox Popoli: The dispute has been resolved

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I'm not sure about the SFWA. That was long before I became interested in Vox Day.

 

[grixis]

I got into Vox after the Gab dispute. Never agreed with Vox feuding with Torba or with Anglin. Looks like he dropped the suit quickly. Sounds like he took his own advice.

Where does he say he dropped the suit? Where does he admit he was wrong to file it in the first place?

He can't divulge what the details were, but since it was settled before it even went to court they're undoubtedly good. If things went bad we'd have a judge shoot the case down like Vic Mignona's case.

How do you know the terms were good? When nothing came of the SFWA and Gab suits Vox went quiet and told people to stop asking him about them instead of admitting he lost or quit, which is how he's now behaving with the IndieGoGo suit. I'm not saying for sure the IndieGoGo suit went badly but I'm not going to accept it went well without proof.

Sorry to keep peppering you with questions.