Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Mister Y]

Late and gay again, but...

I don't think kiwis should try to figure out who Nick's sources are.
From a ISWV perspective (which most kiwis lowkey are, don't lie to yourself), it's bad for Vic's case to help KV finding out who the sources are.
And from a purely KF perspective, it's probably more fun to let them find out at the worst possible moment, that means more inside infos for Nick, more rage from KV, and a better break down when the thruth will finally come out.

for anyone reading this, dont use this as inspiration for a gay ops. if youre planning a gay ops, straight up go drink bleach.

Isn't that more of a bait than a gay ops?
Wouldn't a gay ops be more like creating a sock KV account and using it to encourage actual ISWV account to commit suicide?
I'm a newfag, but am I wrong by interpreting "gay ops" as an ops to get something out of it that goes beyond fun?

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Oh, look, royalty looking down on the plebs.
Subway workers are more respectable than any snake from that den.
They shouldn't use them as an insult, but of course they do, because they think they're very important people, better than anyone else.

 

[Lone Outsider]

Late and gay again, but...

I don't think kiwis should try to figure out who Nick's sources are.
From a ISWV perspective (which most kiwis lowkey are, don't lie to yourself), it's bad for Vic's case to help KV finding out who the sources are.
And rom a purely KF perspective, it's probably more fun to let them find out at the worst possible moment, that means more insiders' info for Nick, more rage for KV, and a better break down when the thruth will finally come out.

That would fuck shit up beyond everything, let KV find out for themselves, the fact that people on the inside are fucking with them and they don't know is fucking hilarious.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Because they're bloated fatass cunts, that's why.

I still have some doubt about Monica claiming to be a rape victim, purely because even if we ignoring her bullshit of "wanting Vic to get help" rather than reporting his ass far earlier before the Broly movie dropped, she's still done nothing but send a laughing crying emoji at a sexual assault victim, invalidate those who called her out on her shit, and most infamously she played a character (Anna Nishikinomiya) who was an attempted rapist towards the main male character.

Monica Rial had no problem or any discomfort playing an attempted rapist who was so crazy lustful after the main male character, that she put "Love Nectar" in a batch of cookies which the male eats and reacts appropriately upon the revelation being made, later on forces him right into her cooch while he gets said juices on his face, and apparently the guy has to start bringing his underwear with him at all times just to stop her which forces her to go cold turkey for a fucking week.

You'd think that after such a traumatic event in her past, she'd feel uncomfortable with playing a attempted rapist or so but she never really does or did for that matter...It's almost as if she's lying, but I'm far from the expert on a rape victim's mental state years later after it happened.

While I could say that people cope with trauma in different ways, I can also say that this is Monica atoning for doing Shimoneta and Panty & Stocking. Like this is her redemption arc.

 

[HighwayStar]

The "we want him to get help" has been bullshit from the start. I like to bring up Scott Freeman, convicted pedophile and child porn possessor. He "only" possessed child porn, whereas Vic is a predator who's physically and sexually assaulting people.

Since he did less bad things, they should be welcoming Scott back with open arms if they're willing to have Vic back, right? Nah, they never wanted him back. Not one bit.

Also, I discovered I'm blocked by Jamie, despite not following any Pro-Vic people, including Ty, Vic, or Nick.

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Kick Vic Terminology

We need to start a conversation = We need to destroy a career
He is still our friend = He was never our friend
We want him to get help = We want him to get killed
We do not condone harassment and doxing on anybody = We condone harassment and doxing on our detractors
Listen and believe = Pretend and deceive
He admitted it in the deposition that is 100% fact = He admitted it in the deposition that was only 53% revealed
We condemn all predators (even those who are our friends) = We condemn all predators (except those who are our friends)
Dialogue = Bullshit (Because you can't spell "dialogue" without "lie")

 

[The Reclusive Kama]

If the weeb wars have taught me anything, it's that the ringleaders are thoroughly awful people who pretended to like a guy for 15 years and instead of addressing their grievances with him face to face, they decided to frame him up as a sex offender so they can A.) Get him out of their hair B.) Rack up some twitter points and C.) Jump on the #metoo wagon. And rather than act like professionals, they chose to dance about and broadcast their accomplishments over a loudspeaker instead of, you know, keeping quiet about the whole thing (its an investigation and private matter dammit). Soon enough the harassment starts coming to their doors and they submit to the classic "with us or against us" mentality, Even if you take the neutral route and conclude...

"It's definitely in the realm of possibility but we need to see more evidence, otherwise it's just hearsay..."

Nope! Doesn't matter if this whole situation was handled with the grace of 4 year old trying to carve a turkey, they're the "victims" and what they say is what is right. They've become so committed to their narrative, that they'll disregard any misdemeanor on their end. Faking a swatting? Nah it was an honest mistake. Someone's brother being busted for having honest to god CP on his computer? Nah, he's an innocent victim, the harddrive he bought came with it. Court documented evidence that Big Daddy Soye beat his ex with remote and threatened to cut her pup up if she didn't answer the phone? He's a changed man! If anything his ex is the real villain! When you have Armzgurl saying "Yeah that's bad but Vic has done much worse" it's increasingly apparent these people don't give a genuine rat's ass about actual victims, only about being right. And in my eyes, that's what's truly scary about all this. The fact you're ignoring basic logic and morality just so you can be a "victim" on the cesspit that is twitter.

I weep for the future.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

Good morning, fellow Kiwis.

Here's a little something to light up the day a bit, courtesy of Stan Dahlin

- Tweet: https://twitter.com/scdahlin/status/1177212924772962310
- Archive: https://archive.li/AR95N

 

[Revisitdust]

Now the Hero is saying that the new Joker movie glorifies white people that becomes criminal, or something. https://twitter.com/CartoonHeroGuy/status/1176607984916582401

 

[TexOffender]

Good morning, fellow Kiwis.

Here's a little something to light up the day a bit, courtesy of Stan Dahlin

- Tweet: https://twitter.com/scdahlin/status/1177212924772962310
- Archive: https://archive.li/AR95N
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Oh i wish current con runners had the freedom to speak out and not have to deal with people pulling out of cons.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

Good morning, fellow Kiwis.

Here's a little something to light up the day a bit, courtesy of Stan Dahlin

- Tweet: https://twitter.com/scdahlin/status/1177212924772962310
- Archive: https://archive.li/AR95N
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Could the defense use photos like this in court, then play a clip of Nick calling Monica a cunt and then say something to the effect of: Vic endorses this behavior? I mean, I know it's exceptional, my question is if that would work on a jury. In theory, Vic would only have to say that he doesn't endorse this behavior and that would be the end of that, right? Nick is great, but I also think that some middle aged busybodies from Texas wouldn't take too kindly to some of the stuff he says on stream. I just keep trying to see stuff from the jury's perspective.

 

[TexOffender]

Could the defense use photos like this in court, then play a clip of Nick calling Monica a cunt and then say something to the effect of: Vic endorses this behavior? I mean, I know it's exceptional, my question is if that would work on a jury. In theory, Vic would only have to say that he doesn't endorse this behavior and that would be the end of that, right? Nick is great, but I also think that some middle aged busybodies from Texas wouldn't take too kindly to some of the stuff he says on stream. I just keep trying to see stuff from the jury's perspective.

They'd get struck. A lot of people are calling moron and jaimie FAT lying cunts, vic isn't responsible for any of that.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

A lot of people are calling moron and jaimie FAT lying cunts, vic isn't responsible for any of that.

But VIC ENDORSED IT BY BREATHING

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

Vic is actually endorsing the daily stormer. The daily stormer is on the internet. Vic uses the internet. Ergo...

 

[Aria]

The "we want him to get help" has been bullshit from the start. I like to bring up Scott Freeman, convicted pedophile and child porn possessor. He "only" possessed child porn, whereas Vic is a predator who's physically and sexually assaulting people.

Since he did less bad things, they should be welcoming Scott back with open arms if they're willing to have Vic back, right? Nah, they never wanted him back. Not one bit.

Also, I discovered I'm blocked by Jamie, despite not following any Pro-Vic people, including Ty, Vic, or Nick.

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If monica really was a rape victim she wouldn't be joking about someone watching kidde porn.

In the end this was never about standing up for victims and forgiveness this was all about getting rid of someone they don't like for whatever reason.

 

[Padoru]

Could the defense use photos like this in court, then play a clip of Nick calling Monica a cunt and then say something to the effect of: Vic endorses this behavior? I mean, I know it's exceptional, my question is if that would work on a jury. In theory, Vic would only have to say that he doesn't endorse this behavior and that would be the end of that, right? Nick is great, but I also think that some middle aged busybodies from Texas wouldn't take too kindly to some of the stuff he says on stream. I just keep trying to see stuff from the jury's perspective.

No in the same way as Ty can't use AWL wishing rape and suicide on people as a sign that Monica is guilty of defamation

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

The Scott situation was weird. He disappeared from the anime industry and nobody even knew that it happened. The dude actually admitted to having multiple counts of CP, and STILL did not receive the public execution that Vic got. It's strange how the ANN article on him is actually... normal. Also there are maybe 4 videos on YouTube that talk about it. Vic probably would have ended the same if they didn't write hit pieces and scream about it on Twitter.



Ahhh... The old "he's still my friend" and "I just want him to get help" excuse... This had set a red flag from the very beginning because Monica is trying to portray herself as some kind of saint. I don't know who in their right mind would let a known criminal run free like that, especially if he was raping children and shit. I don't care if you're my best friend, I got to do my due diligence as a citizen and make sure you pay for your crimes. Especially so if the crimes are as terrible as Monica makes them out to be. l don't know who can stay friends with someone like that.

If they wanted to help Vic, they would have been actively seeking it instead of trying to rally hate towards Vic. Another red flag. Their actions were quite the opposite of their words, so I thought that was quite telling. It is baffling to think anyone could still believe Monica's words, especially at this point.

I'm not going to speculate if she really was a rape victim when she was a kid. People handle the situation differently than others. Some get over it and move on with their lives and others can remain extremely sensitive their whole lives. Regardless of whether or not that happened, it doesn't truly matter. If she was, she definitely doesn't show fellow victims any sympathy and isn't triggered by rapey characters in anime. As sensitive as Ron paints her to be about shit like this, it makes me doubt she's a real victim too. But then again Monica tries to say she's a "strong woman". Her bringing it up at her depo caused her to only muster a single tear, if that, to prime herself for the telling of her "Vic story". But like I said, whether it is true or not really doesn't matter.

You'd expect VAs to act more mature and professional... But this whole thing has opened my eyes to how most of them are the complete opposite. It's such a shame, really. If only they could act their age, they'd avoid most of the trouble.

The only "help" they wanted for Vic is a bullet smoothie, and if he complied to them the truth would have been lost possibly forever while these sick fuckers would pat themselves on the back, still slandering a dead man because none of these clowns have a hint of integrity or basic human decency in their bodies.

As for why the likes of Monicunt and Kara hadn't reported Vic, its because they're full of shit and fail to realize how bad that makes them look to those not in their Social Justice Side:"We let a potential rapist run around for nearly a decade, because our careers mattered more! What? Don't question the narrative, this is MY truth!" since it meant they knew Vic was a danger to people in public, but didn't care enough to do something about it until way too late.

More than likely, we already know the Sacred Ointment Couch Club had a hate boner and so the lies began~ Won't lie though, Edwards pisses me off far more than Blamey Harpy and Monica because she's so transparently full of crap that it puts a Taco Bell bathroom to shame;since she's doing this for Monica like the toady she is as Kara has competition with younger voice actresses who can easily replace her as Son Goten (Her only famous role), so doing a solid for the Sacred Ointment Couch Club will appease Sabat from just shitcanning her from said character.

As for professionalism, none of these fools had that because if they did this circus wouldn't have been broadcasted and Denbow would have done a better investigation that wasn't a game of fucking Telephone, proving that she's more incompetent at getting a clue than Mystery Inc. from goddamn Scooby Doo in regards to their cases.

 

[Mister Y]

Now the Hero is saying that the new Joker movie glorifies white people that becomes criminal, or something. https://twitter.com/CartoonHeroGuy/status/1176607984916582401

archive everything

 

[Spectre_06]

If monica really was a rape victim she wouldn't be joking about someone watching kidde porn.

In the end this was never about standing up for victims and forgiveness this was all about getting rid of someone they don't like for whatever reason.

Monica's not a victim of sexual assault.

Powerleveling time.

I volunteer as a counselor at a local VA clinic. For obvious reasons (namely HIPPA) I won't give out names or PII. I've seen a lot of cases of depression from things such as PTSD (it helps to have a BA in psychology sometimes). My position was mainly, "We have a veteran who just wants to talk to someone, you mind seeing him? If he needs more than you can provide submit a referral." It was basically someone wanted to talk, and it was better for them to talk to a veteran who responded like a veteran (sometimes they just want to hear a voice remind them they're still a bitch, don't ask me why. It just makes them laugh. Maybe it's just a dopamine thing, I don't fucking know.). One in particular was from a charge nurse who came in. "We have no psychologist on call and we don't want to have to send her to the hospital in Boston, can you talk to her?"

"Sure, what's it about?"

"Suicidal. She's a rape survivor."

"Above my paygrade but sure, I'll talk to her."

This had happened ten years ago. Something had triggered the memory and she was absolutely devastated by it at a time when she wasn't in the best frame of mind. We spoke for possibly four hours, and she walked out of there better. There were no jokes, there was nothing like that. She'd end up seeing me three more times after that,and she was a lot happier. When we'd talk about the rape, her mood would change: we'd go from lighthearted banter and jokes to...you could feel it. The air became heavier, I suppose. She didn't want to see a psychiatrist but I explained to her she was exhibiting signs of moderate depression and that was something I couldn't help her overcome. Talking is fine but she needed help beyond anything I could do. It's been about five years now and we still talk on occasion. Hell she knows my girlfriend and they're pretty good friends.

The point is that when it comes to a situation like this that you're recalling, your mood isn't jovial. You're not making jokes, you're not smiling, you're not laughing. This is a traumatic event, one in which subconciously you react to negatively. Everything Monica said and did during her deposition said she was lying. This is basic psychology, and it flew in the face of what I have seen when it comes to shit like this.

 

[Aria]

The only "help" they wanted for Vic is a bullet smoothie, and if he complied to them the truth would have been lost possibly forever while these sick fuckers would pat themselves on the back, still slandering a dead man because none of these clowns have a hint of integrity or basic human decency in their bodies.

As for why the likes of Monicunt and Kara hadn't reported Vic, its because they're full of shit and fail to realize how bad that makes them look to those not in their Social Justice Side:"We let a potential rapist run around for nearly a decade, because our careers mattered more! What? Don't question the narrative, this is MY truth!" since it meant they knew Vic was a danger to people in public, but didn't care enough to do something about it until way too late.

More than likely, we already know the Sacred Ointment Couch Club had a hate boner and so the lies began~ Won't lie though, Edwards pisses me off far more than Blamey Harpy and Monica because she's so transparently full of crap that it puts a Taco Bell bathroom to shame;since she's doing this for Monica like the toady she is as Kara has competition with younger voice actresses who can easily replace her as Son Goten (Her only famous role), so doing a solid for the Sacred Ointment Couch Club will appease Sabat from just shitcanning her from said character.

As for professionalism, none of these fools had that because if they did this circus wouldn't have been broadcasted and Denbow would have done a better investigation that wasn't a game of fucking Telephone, proving that she's more incompetent at getting a clue than Mystery Inc. from goddamn Scooby Doo in regards to their cases.

If they did try to to get vic help then the truth would have been lost forever and no one would have known what happened.

I'm glad that vic stood his ground and fought back instead off letting these dumb harpies destroy his life and his career forever.and these dumb fuckers would have been using vics admission of guilt to scilence their detractors.

The only thing monica and jamie and the rest of vics accuser want is for vic to off himself and they'll pat themeselfs on the pat and blame it all on bad man vic.these sick fuckers wanted clout and twitter asspats.all off them get off to people telling them like how they are so brave for coming out with their story of absolute bullshit.

All of these faggots let a rapist run off for around 20 fucking years like how the fuck can you get away with that.well there is only one answer well it didn't happen no one was there when these alleged events happend.they know vic was a alleged predator but they did nothing and if you question why they let him all you get is a block and no answer why.

All of them are responsible and funimation for letting this alleged rapist run away and get away with his crimes (even though the allegations are bullshit).

Everyone involved are fucking incompetent.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Honestly I'm just glad that people are still angry about what they did. People start getting apathetic to this shit, and it sucks because it's what these people bank on. They're never ready for a extended battle.

 

[Aria]

Honestly I'm just glad that people are still angry about what they did. People start getting apathetic to this shit, an it sucks because this is what these people bank on. They're never ready for a extended battle.

The defendants never expected this to be a long drawn out battle all they expected was for vic lie down and kill himself but that didn't happen.