Rojava - A Real Revolution?

[Gym Leader Elesa]

I have a contact in my city who is a huge buff on libertarian socialism and Syrian Rojava. He, along with a very suspicious (and lengthy) wikipedia article build it up to be this perfect polyethnic, feminist, secular, leftist, direct democracy that is even phasing out its police force (so remarkably peaceful it is, apparently.) They even train what police they have left in feminism and the social contract, allegedly! Yet they somehow respect private property, religion, and coexist peacefully with their neighbors.

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/no-this-is-a-genuine-revolution/

Here is an example of one such article. The wikipedia artical can be found, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

So, is what people say true? Is Rojava a fraud? I find this all incredibly hard to believe, especially in the midst of war-torn Syria. I know so little about it, though, so besides "I highly doubt that" there is little I can do when my acquaintance drones about how ignorant and misguided by beliefs are and how "communism is possible, Rojava did it!" etc, etc.

Thoughts?

 

[RI 360]

I'll do some reading into this and come back to it, but to start "libertarian socialism" is an oxymoron. I wish these people would learn what words mean, so I don't have to spend an hour of an argument establishing definitions.

 

[Some JERK]

Are all restaurants in Rojava Taco Bell?

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

Also paging @Internet War Criminal because he seems to know a lot about Arabs/Kurds/other subhumans and this horseshit reeks so bad it wakes the dead.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Fuck Rojava. I'm so sick of dumb-as-rocks commie twats using the barely functional pseudo-nation of Rojava as an example of "functional communism". The only reason they haven't collapsed in on themselves yet is because they are currently united against ISIS and Al-Assad's forces. Once either one of those are out of the picture, Rojava will collapse immediately or turn into a totalitarian Jonestown-esque nightmare, and then collapse.

 

[millais]

Rojava survives but for the grace of America and Turkey. American air strikes kept ISIS at bay, and the Turks generously keep the border crossings with Rojava open for now (they can shut down at any moment)

 

[Club Sandwich]

there is little I can do when my acquaintance drones about how ignorant and misguided by beliefs are

i've learned a long time ago that there can be no lasting peace when you are able to clearly and succinctly defend yourself against criticism and questions by claiming your opponents are ignorant or misguided. it smacks of "true believers" and conflating government and religion implies centralized moral authority, which isn't something that can be easily lived apart from without tremendous buy-in. that buy-in may or may not be voluntary.

cults do this, as do some political groups.

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

I find it weird that no one really knows anything for sure about the place though other than how it sounds.

 

[ICametoLurk]

They're a bunch of militant faggots trained, equipped, armed, supplied and financed by U.S. and other Western capitalist countries as a U.S. capitalist asset, taking over and using up infrastructure and stocks built and produced by capitalist countries and barely surviving selling oil produced with existing capitalist infrastructure to capitalist countries and importing basic goods only produced by capitalist countries and their Constitution is modeled after the US Constitution which is Capitalist in nature.

Proof that Communism works.

 

[ICametoLurk]

HAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA

Now that Trump is pulling American troops out the Turks are gonna genocide them all.

Anarkiddies BTFO

 

[Slap47]

Interesting, I didn't know about this.

It reminds me of the anarchist Ukraine and Catalonia. Warlordism and "non-states" using "non-state" "non-force" to have a barely functional authoritarian government.

 

[millais]

HAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA

Now that Trump is pulling American troops out the Turks are gonna genocide them all.

Anarkiddies BTFO

Unfortunately with the exception of the Tel Rifat pocket, the commies have a clear line of retreat all the way back to Iraqi Kurdistan, so they will live to beg for American intervention on another day. If the behavior of the Iraqi Peshmerga Kurds is anything to go by, they are pretty good at retreating in the face of government forces without allowing themselves to be encircled and trapped en masse. But the Peshmerga are more heavily motorized and presumably more mobile than the Syrian Kurds of YPG and the like, so maybe the Syrian Kurds will not be able to escape if the Turks commit their tank armies to a sweeping offensive.

 

[ICametoLurk]

YOU CAN FINALLY PLAY AS A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN FIGHTING MUDSLIMES ON CALL OF DUTY

 

[Syaoran Li]

The sooner Rojava collapses, the better.

With ISIS essentially dead in the region, the West has no need to support it and Turkey can focus more on the more direct threat Rojava poses to their borders.

The Turks are likely gonna curb stomp Rojava in the near future, assuming either the Peshmerga or Al-Assad's forces don't do it for them. Or if Rojava collapses in on itself as all other anarchist endeavors inevitably do.

 

[millais]

YOU CAN FINALLY PLAY AS A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN FIGHTING MUDSLIMES ON CALL OF DUTY

I think they already had YPG Kurdish women combatants as a selectable player class in "Insurgency: Sandstorm" for many months now. I see a lot of people have fun time on the insurgent side by blowing them up with RPG-7s.

 

[break these cuffs]

I'm cool with this as long as I get to rp Apo in his sexforts

BIJI KURDISTAN!

for real though I had not idea this retarded shit was in the works when i chose my new avatar

 

[ICametoLurk]

The whole reason you hear MUH KURDS is because should the US support Kurdish nationalists in northern Iraq and North Eastern Syria, this could create two decidedly pro-US camps along the New Silk Road. If Syrian and/or Iraqi Kurdish nationalists manage to establish a union with the Kurdish nationalist PKK in Turkey, the New Silk Road’s pathway into Turkey could also be threatened.

 

[ICametoLurk]

 

[millais]

It's all ogre

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/us-to-let-turkish-forces-move-into-syria-dumping-kurdish-allies.62034/

 

[ICametoLurk]