Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Not really Comicsgate, but relevant to what has been discussed...



What could possibly go wrong? :story:
Because that worked out so well when Marvel did it... haha no dumbass they're still picking up the pieces from the damage that failed relaunch did.

I don't know what the fuck Didio's smoking to think copying Marvel's failed ideas are good business.
 
Because that worked out so well when Marvel did it... haha no dumbass they're still picking up the pieces from the damage that failed relaunch did.

I don't know what the fuck Didio's smoking to think copying Marvel's failed ideas are good business.

It's like they all laughed at Marvel's failure and said "Oh, yeah? Well, we can pull this off! Suck it, Marvel!"
Now, they're going to look like speds.
 
Also, DiDio acknowledged the problem them tripled down first chance he could to refuck things up, to the point that Doomsday Clock; the thing that EVERYTHING was building towards, was wholesale declared as "not canon" and not mattering whatsoever in the big picture, due to Snyder and King and Bendis staging a coup with DiDio and Lee's explicit conset against Geoff Johns first chance DiDio got.
Literally when?
 
Gee guys. Why are sales so low?

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Dear Gods! And they call us Misogynists? Oracle and Black Canary have long been well written female characters. Partners and Friends, that felt very real. Even under Gail Simone's writing. There was absolutely no Lesbian Subtext to them. None! Zip! Nada! And notice how it's the prudish eternally offended SJW brigade that wants to turn them into lesbians so they can watch!
 
Dear Gods! And they call us Misogynists? Oracle and Black Canary have long been well written female characters. Partners and Friends, that felt very real. Even under Gail Simone's writing. There was absolutely no Lesbian Subtext to them. None! Zip! Nada! And notice how it's the prudish eternally offended SJW brigade that wants to turn them into lesbians so they can watch!

I'm shocked Gail Simone does not have a careercow thread by now.
 
Dear Gods! And they call us Misogynists? Oracle and Black Canary have long been well written female characters. Partners and Friends, that felt very real. Even under Gail Simone's writing. There was absolutely no Lesbian Subtext to them. None! Zip! Nada! And notice how it's the prudish eternally offended SJW brigade that wants to turn them into lesbians so they can watch!

it's the same crap with Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the Ted Kord one, not the Jaime Reyes one). Not every same sex pair of friends need to be shipped, OK? And don't even get me started on the people that want Damian Wayne and Jon Kent to make out even though they are both goddamn minors.
 
Dear Gods! And they call us Misogynists? Oracle and Black Canary have long been well written female characters. Partners and Friends, that felt very real. Even under Gail Simone's writing. There was absolutely no Lesbian Subtext to them. None! Zip! Nada! And notice how it's the prudish eternally offended SJW brigade that wants to turn them into lesbians so they can watch!
it's the same crap with Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the Ted Kord one, not the Jaime Reyes one). Not every same sex pair of friends need to be shipped, OK? And don't even get me started on the people that want Damian Wayne and Jon Kent to make out even though they are both goddamn minors.
It still amuses and amazes me how perverts are able to mask their creepy fetishes as social activism and get cheered for it these days.
 
it's the same crap with Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the Ted Kord one, not the Jaime Reyes one). Not every same sex pair of friends need to be shipped, OK? And don't even get me started on the people that want Damian Wayne and Jon Kent to make out even though they are both goddamn minors.

Oh yeah! It's like these idiots have never experienced normal friendship and social interaction.
/looks at the comic industry pro's....
Oh right! They have never experienced love, friendship or any semblance of normal human social interactions.
 
Oh yeah! It's like these idiots have never experienced normal friendship and social interaction.
/looks at the comic industry pro's....
Oh right! They have never experienced love, friendship or any semblance of normal human social interactions.
Joe was married but it ended in bitter divorce.
 
it's the same crap with Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (the Ted Kord one, not the Jaime Reyes one). Not every same sex pair of friends need to be shipped, OK? And don't even get me started on the people that want Damian Wayne and Jon Kent to make out even though they are both goddamn minors.
I hate shipping for many reasons, including that the women (and it's almost all women) doing it think that it's not just their version of porn, and will constantly go off about the male gaze and the breasts of women in comics while drooling over their preferred pairings, as if they're not essentially the same things, just men are more visual than women.

I hate that no characters can be friends in their eyes, that people only like each other because they want to have sex. They perpetuate the stereotype that men only think about sex and can't form meaningful relationships with anyone without wanting to fuck, and then in the same breath complain that men won't show their emotions as if they haven't demonstrated how little they think of men's capability to feel.

But I especially hate that their moral puritanism about straight male sexuality runs completely counter to how often they sexualise the underaged, acting as if straight men wanting to see attractive women is horrific misogyny but there's nothing remotely creepy or pedophilic about their romantic/sexual fantasies involving men who can't legally consent.

I've seen a university lecturer describe slash as the most transgressive of forms, because it's nearly all women, it's done by fans not creators, and it's queer. They neglected to mention that it's shit, it's borne from a toxic mindset, and is often in the service of characters who are underaged and would be REEEEEEEd about forever if they were women. That they're so self-important about it just makes it all the more annoying.

I'm a little surprised, actually, that none of the anti-CG types have realised that heart-eyed shipping of various CG characters could annoy the people they're opposed to, like writing slash involving Vox Day's characters. But that would take imagination, a willingness to expose themselves to wrongthink, and effort, and they seem to be extremely low on all three.
 
Not really Comicsgate, but relevant to what has been discussed...



What could possibly go wrong? :story:


This is what the 3rd or 4th re-invention within the last 10 years? They really are out of idea's and just floating on past good will.

I approve of this as it can only speed the final extinction of dead gay franchise.
 
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@Done I think the OP needs to be updated.
1. For starters, @FROG is definitely Pro-CG, so his info should be moved accordingly.
Maybe add the link to this thread in OP as well?

2. Add a link to Mark Waid's careercow thread:
A blurb about Meyer v. Waid SHOULD be added as well as a link to the thread:

3, Perhaps a blurb about ThatUmbrellaGuy in the Pro-CG section and a link to his thread:

4. Add Chuck Wendig as an Anti-CG and his cow thread:

5. Add a blurb about Kwanza Osajyefo in the Anti-CG section and a link to his thread:

6. Should Tim Doyle be included? If so, a link to his thread should be in the OP:

7. Kieran Shiach being Anti-CG:
And a link to his thread:

8. Jason Yungbluth being Anti-CG.
The stream with him and @FROG on Nick Rekieta's channel is legendary.
Link to his cow thread:

9. Tess Fowler as Anti-CG:
Link to her thread:

10. Zoe Quinn as Anti-CG (because of course, she is):
Link to her thread:

11. Though not strictly about Comicsgate, Renfamous and her bestie Krissy are subjects in this thread:
So, maybe a mention of it?

12. Liam Gray aka @Tyne (was CG, but no longer is) has a thread:

Those are the main things I can think of unless someone else has different ideas.
 
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fuck, i don't know what to do. I am deciding between buying a 48 page comic that i'll have to wait at least a year for or buying 3 volumes and 600+ pages of a manga series. Oh and all 3 volumes will cost me 30$ or less...... decisions decisions...

Have you seen the hard cover Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin manga collections? The pages are slightly bigger than the regular manga floppies. They're around 500 pages and partially in color, for $30 retail, or cheaper if you use a coupon/have a membership.


There's a large disparity in the quality of products being produced in the indie market.

  • Cyberfrog - $35 for 58 pages of story - 10.125" by 6.625" pages. Includes a car sticker so I can identify as alt-right and have my windshield smashed.
  • Keung's Battlemaiden is black and white, but featured much more nudity, has 54 pages of story, came with 7 cards, includes a pinup and cost 15(+10). Each comic is also individually numbered and signed on the cover.
  • Jason Brubaker is selling his entire 6-book Sithrah series, 1000 pages of art for $99(+10).
  • Doug TenNapel, who the CG hivemind despises for not embracing Ethan's love of forced labor camps to groom children into trans strippers, says EWJ is going to be 160 9" x 12" pages in a hardcover book 25(+12), with 2 packs of cards, a patch(?) and a free comic of Bigfoot Bill 2
  • Graveyard Shift, which follows the love triangle of a zombie Pocahontas, also comes with a free comic

By the way, Barnes and Nobles gave me a free bookmark made of wood and cloth. Paper bookmarks are so gauche.
 
Not really Comicsgate, but relevant to what has been discussed...



What could possibly go wrong? :story:
Please tell me this is an imprint
Because that worked out so well when Marvel did it... haha no dumbass they're still picking up the pieces from the damage that failed relaunch did.

I don't know what the fuck Didio's smoking to think copying Marvel's failed ideas are good business.
It's like they all laughed at Marvel's failure and said "Oh, yeah? Well, we can pull this off! Suck it, Marvel!"
Now, they're going to look like speds.
Hmm. At this point it's all rumor ... right?

I'm holding out hope it will either turn out to be BS, an elseworlds storyline, an imprint ... or DC would see that the universal response is FUCK NO and quietly decide to unhappen it.
 
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Hmm. At this point it's all rumor ... right?

I'm holding out hope it will either turn out to be BS, an elseworlds storyline, an imprint ... or DC would see that the universal response is FUCK NO and quietly decide to unhappen it.
The sad thing is this whole decade has been DC copying Marvel.

New 52/Heroes Reborn

Rebirth/Heroes Return

and now

5G/ANAD Marvel
 
TBH I do wonder how much power Sana Amanat actually holds at Marvel, CG youtubers tend to blame her exclusively for Marvel's decent into SJWdom.
 
This video does not deepen the lore of CG in any meaningful way, but it’s worth watching purely because Zack refers to Ethan as “some fat guy from New Jersey” around 13:10.

 
TBH I do wonder how much power Sana Amanat actually holds at Marvel, CG youtubers tend to blame her exclusively for Marvel's decent into SJWdom.

I don't think anyone blames her "exclusively," though I'd be curious what's her job at Marvel supposed to be in the first place? We all know she has Cebulski's balls in a jar on the shelf, but I'm assuming that isn't what you'd read as HR's description of her position.
 
TBH I do wonder how much power Sana Amanat actually holds at Marvel, CG youtubers tend to blame her exclusively for Marvel's decent into SJWdom.
She is credited with the current direction of Marvel as a 'lifestyle brand' and the massive amounts of exceptionalism on their youtube channel as well admitting to bringing out Stan Lee in a video statement to shield the milkshake girls from criticism for how they're handling things, all the while he was being absused by his caretakers and they didn't do shit about it once his role was over.

If anyone is to blame, it's apparently Quesada because he brought her in for her 'unique voice' or some shit. He kinda has a history of bad decisions. ...yes, I'm still holding a grudge over One More Day.
 
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