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[Cole phleps]

Considering how important modern leftism holds ableism as a topic, it’s always hilarious to see these sort of people suddenly lump mental illness with nazis whenever they go on tirades.

Well historically the Nazis were huge fans of the mentally ill, so he must be right about this as well.

 

[Flamenco]

"You've got a fun harem of pedophiles and the mentally ill in this breadtube kiwifarms thread, which is great lovely fun."

" The final point in all this is to reiterate how mental illness overlaps with um with political radicalization, you know. "
Vaush

He comes really close to being lucid here for a moment reflecting on the fact that mentally ill people tend to gravitate towards more extreme ideologies, before making that point mute by assuming its just far right ideologies, and legit 1944 Nazis I guess that that target the mentally ill. Which is at best intellectually dishonest and at worse being maliciously dishonest. I also dont know the Flamenco and vaush lore, but I've read through this entire thread and there are way more than three guys just bitching about vaush and pigpuncher for 33 pages.

tl;dr I pissed off a horsecock enthusiast, and one of his exceptional viewers posited I ran twitter bots, and Vaush, being the sociologist major that he his, decided that this is conclusive evidence that I run bots everywhere.

 

[Cole phleps]

tl;dr I pissed off a horsecock enthusiast, and one of his exceptional viewers posited I ran twitter bots, and Vaush, being the sociologist major that he his, decided that this is conclusive evidence that I run bots everywhere.

Dudes cocktail of weed and antipsychotics just makes him crazy paranoid most likely.

 

[Flamenco]

Dudes cocktail of weed and antipsychotics just makes him crazy paranoid most likely.

Nah, stupidity and narcissism are just a fantastic combo.

 

[Cole phleps]

Nah, stupidity and narcissism are just a fantastic combo.

I totally agree hes a narcissistic jack ass but, hes a bipolar narcissistic jackass. I know people with pretty bad bipolar that behave very similar to vaush. Bipolar people can get really self absorbed and paranoid on their own, but it seems like a difficult disorder to treat medically and the wrong meds will send people to some crazy places. Also, he brags about weed a lot. You can get really paranoid while stoned. Not trying to shit on bipolar people or weed just saying the wrong medication can make people way worse than better.

 

[Hal]

"You've got a fun harem of pedophiles and the mentally ill in this breadtube kiwifarms thread, which is great lovely fun."

" The final point in all this is to reiterate how mental illness overlaps with um with political radicalization, you know. "
Vaush

He comes really close to being lucid here for a moment reflecting on the fact that mentally ill people tend to gravitate towards more extreme ideologies, before making that point mute by assuming its just far right ideologies, and legit 1944 Nazis I guess that that target the mentally ill. Which is at best intellectually dishonest and at worse being maliciously dishonest. I also dont know the Flamenco and vaush lore, but I've read through this entire thread and there are way more than three guys just bitching about vaush and pigpuncher for 33 pages.

Also he was acting like extremedad has been a poster here for a while when he joined only like 3 weeks ago. More like 1 and a half when he did that stream. And people have made fun of him here.

 

[Cole phleps]

@Flamenco I have a question. I found this and finally sat through the entire thing, is vaush just mad because thanks to you his 4 hour hate fueld diatribe against trannies and his audience, before being made too look even more stupid by a larger creator in his own community has never been fully eradicated by youtube?

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Well historically the Nazis were huge fans of the mentally ill, so he must be right about this as well.

They hated the mentally ill aside from the meth head who led them. They were hypocrites and their modern successors are as well. I highly doubt most of /pol/ would count as the master race.

 

[Cole phleps]

They hated the mentally ill aside from the meth head who led them. They were hypocrites and their modern successors are as well. I highly doubt most of /pol/ would count as the master race.

I think the mental illness aspect vaush tried to hit on and the prevalence of ww2 games and media in the late 90s and 2000s have had some sort of impact on the alt right and the far left online at least. I mean honestly, both sides are really steeped in fiction and games. All they've really done at the end of the day is reappropriate familiar iconography, swastika, hammer, And sickle, Stalin or Hitler portraits and references etc, for either their insane ramblings or to make their basic modern politics seem radical and revolutionary. Many speak like NPCS straight out of an old call of duty game, " Comrade we shall smash the fascist," or "Sieg heil mein fuhrer", there's not historical weight to it and they don't even try. At this point, I wish both sides would just go and LARP somewhere in the woods with these guys, and stop acting like bipartisan politics is a BIG LARPY WW2 ADVENTURE.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I think the mental illness aspect vaush tried to hit on and the prevalence of ww2 games and media in the late 90s and 2000s have had some sort of impact on the alt right and the far left online at least. I mean honestly, both sides are really steeped in fiction and games. All they've really done at the end of the day is reappropriate familiar iconography, swastika, hammer, And sickle, Stalin or Hitler portraits and references etc, for either their insane ramblings or to make their basic modern politics seem radical and revolutionary. Many speak like NPCS straight out of an old call of duty game, " Comrade we shall smash the fascist," or "Sieg heil mein fuhrer", there's not historical weight to it and they don't even try. At this point, I wish both sides would just go and LARP somewhere in the woods with these guys, and stop acting like bipartisan politics is a BIG LARPY WW2 ADVENTURE.

It's more that the alt-right ideology itself is largely based on regurgitated Nazi propaganda, and communism on communist propaganda. /pol/'s endless rambling about the (((Jews))) is just revived 1930s conspiracy theories, so of course they're going to identify with a regime that represented those values. Similarly communists will look back to a time before 1991 when Marxism-Leninism was a relevant school of thought in the real world outside delusional academia. The video games just enter because of their immature mindsets.

 

[Cole phleps]

It's more that the alt-right ideology itself is largely based on regurgitated Nazi propaganda, and communism on communist propaganda. /pol/'s endless rambling about the (((Jews))) is just revived 1930s conspiracy theories, so of course they're going to identify with a regime that represented those values. Similarly communists will look back to a time before 1991 when Marxism-Leninism was a relevant school of thought in the real world outside delusional academia. The video games just enter because of their immature mindsets.

I can't really argue with you there I've run into far too many holocaust denires who believe in Jewish shadow governments and crazy tankies who believed Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong. I know many gamers who are now WW2 spergs thanks to games that pick favorite factions like they would sports teams and go on about who was actually the best because of the weapons or vehicles or ideologies that would definitely gravitate towards these types of crowds.

 

[Flamenco]

@Flamenco I have a question. I found this and finally sat through the entire thing, is vaush just mad because thanks to you his 4 hour hate fueld diatribe against trannies and his audience, before being made too look even more stupid by a larger creator in his own community has never been fully eradicated by youtube?

I'm honestly not sure he's seen it yet. He's copyright struck his little sperg out before, however he has multiple instances of melting down at his audience from what I've seen and he hasn't deleted them. Perhaps he's understanding that he has an audience that won't leave, regardless of how poor they are treated, which is pretty sad.

 

[Citation Checking Project]

So it seems one of PigPuncher's former mods has had enough of his bullshit and called him out for being a hack and a copy of Vaush.
View attachment 977888

Nice catch. Your link is badly formatted though, and it's better to post it here eitherway. Attached is the document as of 5 minutes ago. It is clearly unfinished, but the author tweeted 4 hours ago that he would probably not finish it.

This is all you're getting. I'm going to try to put this way behind me. Pig tried to get Vaush to read my doc on stream.

https://archive.is/G1BNM

And yes, Pig posted it in chat at this exact timestamp.

link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16I7XgyKPJLcOBZNuXaUj9SC_CrMRZqYL/view

 

[Cool kitties club]

"You've got a fun harem of pedophiles and the mentally ill in this breadtube kiwifarms thread, which is great lovely fun."

" The final point in all this is to reiterate how mental illness overlaps with um with political radicalization, you know. "
Vaush

He comes really close to being lucid here for a moment reflecting on the fact that mentally ill people tend to gravitate towards more extreme ideologies, before making that point mute by assuming its just far right ideologies, and legit 1944 Nazis I guess that target the mentally ill. Which is at best intellectually dishonest and at worse being maliciously dishonest. I also dont know the Flamenco and vaush lore, but I've read through this entire thread and there are way more than three guys just bitching about vaush and pigpuncher for 33 pages.

He brought it up earlier in this video:

Which upset some of his fans:

Spoiler

 

[A Logging Company]

I'm actually on the fence if @Flamenco is making alts specifically to troll Vaush and further shitup this thread. He's very dedicated to being a le ebbin trollz to left-wing online personalities, so I wouldn't put it past him. But what's more likely is @FarLeftChud made an alt in Flamenco's name on Vaush's site, or someone else using this very thread as inspiration for alt names Extremist Dad perhaps?. I'm 60% on that being the case, but reserve 40% for Flamenco being that much of a faggot.

I know there has been a lot of sturups amoungst the staff recently, but can a staff member check to see if FarLeftChud and Flamenco do share the same IP? Either it proves Vaush's big brain was fooled by an obvious gaslighting technique or Flamenco is that pathethic. Really it's a win-win for everyone except one of those two.

EDIT: @FarLeftChud joined KF on Oct 3rd of this year, and has only posted in a few Chris threads and this thread, this would imply that its indeed an alt account, posting just enough threads outside this one to make it less obvious. My apologies in advance to Mr. FarLeftChud if this is not the case, I do not meant to besmirch the noble LeftWingChud name, but we are dealing with some serious agenda-autist here.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Considering how important modern leftism holds ableism as a topic, it’s always hilarious to see these sort of people suddenly lump mental illness with nazis whenever they go on tirades.

Neo Nazis recruit from forums full of depressed mentally ill young men all the time. That's not even a controversial statement.

I'm actually on the fence if @Flamenco is making alts specifically to troll Vaush and further shitup this thread. He's very dedicated to being a le ebbin trollz to left-wing online personalities, so I wouldn't put it past him. But what's more likely is @FarLeftChud made an alt in Flamenco's name on Vaush's site, or someone else using this very thread as inspiration for alt names Extremist Dad perhaps?. I'm 60% on that being the case, but reserve 40% for Flamenco being that much of a faggot.

I know there has been a lot of sturups amoungst the staff recently, but can a staff member check to see if FarLeftChud and Flamenco do share the same IP? Either it proves Vaush's big brain was fooled by an obvious gaslighting technique or Flamenco is that pathethic. Really it's a win-win for everyone except one of those two.

EDIT: @FarLeftChud joined KF on Oct 3rd of this year, and has only posted in a few Chris threads and this thread, this would imply that its indeed an alt account, posting just enough threads outside this one to make it less obvious. My apologies in advance to Mr. FarLeftChud if this is not the case, I do not meant to besmirch the noble LeftWingChud name, but we are dealing with some serious agenda-autist here.

My personal theory is that the @FarLeftChud or the @Flamenco on here are not the same one as each other. But the ones on Vaush's site were the same person. I don't have any idea if that person is the "real" Flamenco or "real" FLC but IP evidence suggests to completely different people use those names on here while someone went onto Vaush.gg and claimed both. This also gels with the fact that vaush didn't used to use his own sites chat: he was on twitch and youtube. He wouldn't have direct access to that kind of thing when side characters like these guys originally started popping up.

 

[AnOminous]

Neo Nazis recruit from forums full of depressed mentally ill young men all the time. That's not even a controversial statement.

All cults do.

 

[A Logging Company]

I don't have any idea if that person is the "real" Flamenco or "real" FLC but IP evidence suggests to completely different people use those names on here while someone went onto Vaush.gg and claimed both.

Well there you go, @Flamenco is off the hook, enjoy your victory lap. I highly doubt someone would make alts with the same IP on one site, but use different IPs when making alts on a different site. We're not dealing with people intelligent enough to set this up so that they only changed IPs when making accounts here, on the probablity they would be crossed checked.

In either case, Vaush BTFO on this one.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Vaush BTFO on this one.

Not 100% though because this reeks of gay ops so he was right to suspect something was going on with these dudes.

 

[zedkissed60]

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