Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

At this point, Im so fucking done with the disney canon that Im seriously wondering if thats true or if you are just pulling my leg because its so stupid, it might actually be real.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-379#post-4308469

It's real, and I forgot to mention it's part of Doctor Aphra, an obnoxious Mary Sue character in the Disney Star Wars comics beloved by ResetEra.

 

[Tsusaba109]

“Haha! Take that man babies! It’s going to outgross Endgame! We tells ya!”

‘Star Wars’ Rising: ‘Skywalker’ Pre-Sales Nearly Double ‘Avengers: Engame’

Star Wars: Episode IX – The Rise of Skywalker won’t reach theaters until December 20th but the mega-release from Disney’s Lucasfilm Ltd. was already breaking records on Monday nig…

www.google.com

Article says 45% increase.Title says nearly double. This is the galaxy brain power of Disney shills...

I made a post why this very specific data "45% increase on the Atom service in the first hour over endgame", is kinda useless.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Soylo's release drew just as much hype as the TLJ trailer.
:Story:
Remember, if anyone mentions this movie, tell them that Exogol is confirmed, and that they shouldn't watch it. We can kill any hype left in our friends and families

ONLY say that if they mention it. If they don't, remain silent.

But jesus christ, either Google suddenly hates Disney, or they forgot to falsify that graph there. The TFA, RO, TLJ, and Solo toys still rotting in stores is fascinating, I can't wait for them to join ET in that landfill.

So in the actual real budget terms ((I am sure disney is going to hide budget on this)) Plan IX a star wars story runs a real risk of failing and making 0 money

 

[Antipathy]

So in the actual real budget terms ((I am sure disney is going to hide budget on this)) Plan IX a star wars story runs a real risk of failing and making 0 money

Optimistically yes. I made a calc that estimated ~835 million in the BO for Ruse of Soywalker, that was taking the ~37% dropoff between TFA and TLJ and applying it to TLJ's box office. However, there are a lot of factors now that are different then:
1: The environment is far more toxic. TLJ and the blowback, insults, canon raping, and hatred that surrounded it have made things totally different
2: Solo. Solo's utter failure might be a portent of things to come. I sincerely hope it isn't an outlier
3: Franchise fatigue. Every time someone says Star Wars, I just grow tired and jaded. I don't want to see it anymore and will tell my friends and family not to see it. This isn't "the proles won't buy because oversaturation" this is people are literally tired of Soy Wars.
4: The Antishills: Since TLJ emerged like a shit with fetal alcohol syndrome, many channels and people on Youtube have gained followers by shitting on it. The likes of MauLer, EVS, Geeks and Gamers, HackfraudMedia, WCBS etc. I hadn't heard of them before, but I know them now, and they have been instrumental in providing a lot of information about Disney's hatred of us to me, and many others as well.

Super optimistically, the movie struggles to crack 500 mil, maybe even fails below 400 mil at the end, but I doubt it. I'm thinking somewhere around 700-900 mil at the box office, Disney reporting 1.5 bil in a blatant, frantic lie.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Optimistically yes. I made a calc that estimated ~835 million in the BO for Ruse of Soywalker, that was taking the ~37% dropoff between TFA and TLJ and applying it to TLJ's box office. However, there are a lot of factors now that are different then:

So if it makes 835 (which I consider a best case scenario) it would need a production budget probably under 250-260 mil and....AT BEST it might see that on global open.

 

[Antipathy]

So if it makes 835 (which I consider a best case scenario) it would need a production budget probably under 250-260 mil and....AT BEST it might see that on global open.

Again, I must stress that my back of a napkin calculation is probably inaccurate. Trilogy bumps, toxicity of the brand, interest, I couldn't quantify or calculate these things so I took a flat rating.
Either way though, things are going to get hilarious.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Okay, so if Leia is training Rey, doesn't that completely invalidate the whole point of The Force Awakens and the search for Luke? They needed Luke to bring the Jedi back...but Leia can train Rey...so why didn't Leia just do it from the start?

Anyways, I just watched Jeremy Jahns' reaction to the trailer where he referenced the infamous "Sabre chucking" incident with Luke in TLJ, and something sparked in my brain where it got me thinking on how to make that whole situation better.

What if instead of chucking the sabre over his head, Luke handed it back to Rey and walked off? What if they expanded on the whole "Wars not make one great" idea by showcasing it visually and how Luke's methods don't involve just him swinging a sabre around.

What if they pulled a page out of the Karate Kid playbook where the master is seemingly doing nothing, but was actually teaching Rey the whole time without her realizing it. One of the biggest "oooh" and "aaaah" moments I remember from my childhood was the scene where Miyagi was like "Show me paint the fence...show me side to side...show me wax the floor" and the audience realizes right with Daniel that he was learning the entire time. And the best part was, they didn't have to explain it. They just showed it and we got it.

Well, what if they did that with Luke, where he gets Rey to do all these seemingly menial tasks and then it turns out she was learning about the Force and other techniques the whole time, and Luke did it as a way to test her worthiness and dedication to wanting to learn how to be a Jedi. And then she finally explodes at him and he demonstrates how much he taught her and how much she learned.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Today's audience dont have new shit because there is no creativity because creativity requires risks and SJWs hate risks. There is a reason anime and manga are the only few medias not infected by social justice. Hell! They made a big fuzz about a female character getting TICKLED, all cartoonishly so, in My Hero Academia! (and I guess it dared to show some underboob there, omg, the horror).
So since they didnt grow up with those classics, they dont know how to make them and even if they did, today's audience will throw a hissy fit, just look at Joker!

But Joker made more than Justice League and most people loved the movie, just a few whiny Twitter morons and journalists/news publications shat on it to try and stir up hysteria...I don't really get the whole "Audiences can't handle heavy themes!" when it's not really the majority of audiences, just a few that do.

If that was also true that SJWs are a huge part of the market GB2016 would have been a success.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Again, I must stress that my back of a napkin calculation is probably inaccurate. Trilogy bumps, toxicity of the brand, interest, I couldn't quantify or calculate these things so I took a flat rating.
Either way though, things are going to get hilarious.

AND if there has been 75% reshoots... it could have a true cost as high as 450 million. If my ballpark guess is right it loses money if it doesnt do a billion globally

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Okay, so if Leia is training Rey, doesn't that completely invalidate the whole point of The Force Awakens and the search for Luke? They needed Luke to bring the Jedi back...but Leia can train Rey...so why didn't Leia just do it from the start?

They never actually specified what they wanted Luke back for, beyond "saving the galaxy" or possibly "saving the Resistance." We don't even know why he left the star map if he didn't want to be found. It was an obvious MacGuffin setup that Rian Johnson just threw in the trash. Again.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

But Joker made more than Justice League and most people loved the movie, just a few whiny Twitter morons and journalists/news publications shat on it to try and stir up hysteria...I don't really get the whole "Audiences can't handle heavy themes!" when it's not really the majority of audiences, just a few that do.

If that was also true that SJWs are a huge part of the market GB2016 would have been a success.

Hopefully Joker's success is a sign that things will get better

 

[Antipathy]

Some anon thinks it needs 700 mil to profit, but I'm not sure it'll even get that far

 

[CheezzyMach]

But Joker made more than Justice League and most people loved the movie, just a few whiny Twitter morons and journalists/news publications shat on it to try and stir up hysteria...I don't really get the whole "Audiences can't handle heavy themes!" when it's not really the majority of audiences, just a few that do.

If that was also true that SJWs are a huge part of the market GB2016 would have been a success.

He's saying studios don't want to deal with an army of screeching tards throwing feces around everytime something upsets their delicate sensibilities hence risk aversion.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

He's saying studios don't want to deal with an army of screeching tards throwing feces around everytime something upsets their delicate sensibilities hence risk aversion.

I get that, except those screeching tards aren't a good source of money. Let's be real, outside of the MCU (which made money because they are heavily connected to one another so people felt obligated to watch all of them), most of these attempts to pander to SJWs have fallen flat or seem to cause apathy towards IPs that engage in it.
Star Wars is one of them as evidenced by the reaction to this new trailer.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

I can understand the risk aversion mentality.

Look at what happened with Iron Man 3. People say the Marvel movies don't take risks and I point to that one and go "They took a risk with the Mandarin twist and the nerds collectively lost their goddamn minds" which interestingly, I think the twist happened because they wanted to avoid accusations of racism with the Mandarin character. They risk averted themselves right into a shitstorm anyway!

Personally, I thought the twist was interesting, though it needed something to compensate for it to make it fully work. Guy Pierce being the bad guy when I already knew he was the bad guy isn't quite enough to make up for it.

 

[The handsome tard]

But Joker made more than Justice League and most people loved the movie, just a few whiny Twitter morons and journalists/news publications shat on it to try and stir up hysteria...I don't really get the whole "Audiences can't handle heavy themes!" when it's not really the majority of audiences, just a few that do.

If that was also true that SJWs are a huge part of the market GB2016 would have been a success.

Yeah I agree but you see, we are talking about influence and, like it or not, these socialist/SJWs/crazed democrats,whatever, are in charge of most of the journalism and critic game nowadays and companies listen A LOT to those, even more than the audiences themselves. Also they can just say it wasnt a hit because of the racists basement dwelling trump supporters man-babies.

 

[vertexwindi]

I made a funny.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

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Some anon thinks it needs 700 mil to profit, but I'm not sure it'll even get that far

I am not sure its reshoot budget is only 300 mil. That seems low

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Yeah I agree but you see, we are talking about influence and, like it or not, these socialist/SJWs/crazed democrats,whatever, are in charge of most of the journalism and critic game nowadays and companies listen A LOT to those, even more than the audiences themselves. Also they can just say it wasnt a hit because of the racists basement dwelling trump supporters man-babies.

So your describing what is basically a very good way to lose money in the long run, too scared to just have the balls to do what they know will make money, so they listen to elitist bullies whom they mistakenly think have a huge amount of influence on what normies like.

And yeah using the "It failed because of racists" won't work forever, after a while people will get used to hearing that and no longer care, so they won't be able to shame people into watching their trash as people will become inoculated to those insults too and no longer care about the crap they are pushing.

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

There's literally nothing left outside of Dune.

If it's to be made in America you need a billion fucking genders and a billion minority representation so every group has some theoretical character that they purchase products featuring the image of. It bogs down the whole aspect of telling a story in the first place.

If anything it has to come from Japan since they won't fuck it up.

Now is the time for Lensman to rise again.