Morgane Oger / Ronan Oger - defunded a rape crisis shelter, JY frenemy, sues ppl for misgendering, stalks meghan murphy, EX vp of new dem party that lost 3+ elections

Ogre pipes in about the decision:



One commenter is so worried it harms pre op trans to be forbidden to force estheticians to handle dick.

Another wonders where Ogre gets waxed, which thought caused me to voms a little bit in me mouf.

This is the first time I have ever seen Oger act remotely sensible. All thanks to Yaniv.
 
This is the first time I have ever seen Oger act remotely sensible. All thanks to Yaniv.
He is being totally full of shit. Oger said repeatedly that he thinks beauticians need to be trained on waxing lady penises. The only reason he opposed yaniv was his pedophilia and racism, oger still believes in the cause of #waxmyballs. He is pretending that his stance is different than it actually is as to distance himself from his shameful actions, don't fall for it. Oger encouraged yaniv to file these complaints. If yaniv hadn't been a complete retard about how he filed the complaints he would still have an ally in oger, and probably would have won his cases.
 
He is being totally full of shit. Oger said repeatedly that he thinks beauticians need to be trained on waxing lady penises. The only reason he opposed yaniv was his pedophilia and racism, oger still believes in the cause of #waxmyballs. He is pretending that his stance is different than it actually is as to distance himself from his shameful actions, don't fall for it. Oger encouraged yaniv to file these complaints. If yaniv hadn't been a complete exceptional individual about how he filed the complaints he would still have an ally in oger, and probably would have won his cases.

This is "winning" an argument with a Narc. This is Oger turning tail and running, to protect the massive violation of boundaries and power/control won already. Oger plays around with language, and is pretending that he never made the idiotic statement that "one day no one will distinguish between a female penis and female vagina" or whatever the fuck he said. I am not going to get it, I nearly vomited just remembering.

Here we see Oger counseling one of the cult members that "this is sensible" and we're merely distinguishing "pre" and "post op" as if many troons ever bother getting SRS.

Classic narc. If some mildly respectable, high status people reinforce this new interpretation of Oger's and coddle him for being so eminently rational and justice minded, he will readily adopt it into his new self image.

This is what winning looks like with a narc. It feels like losing. Which is why narcs always end up alone, or with dangerous, dysfunctional co-dependents.
 
This is the first time I have ever seen Oger act remotely sensible. All thanks to Yaniv.

This is not him acting remotely sensible, it's him twisting the decision into being a "win" by saying that it affirms that it's illegal to discriminate against trans people as long as penises isn't involved, which is not what the decision says at all. It affirms (in a non-legal sense) that it may be illegal to deny services to trans people if providing it is "materially" the same as providing it a cis person. Numerous non-anatomy related reasons are mentioned in the decision as being material differences, which Oger has conveniently ignored.
 
This is not him acting remotely sensible, it's him twisting the decision into being a "win" by saying that it affirms that it's illegal to discriminate against trans people as long as penises isn't involved, which is not what the decision says at all. It affirms (in a non-legal sense) that it may be illegal to deny services to trans people if providing it is "materially" the same as providing it a cis person. Numerous non-anatomy related reasons are mentioned in the decision as being material differences, which Oger has conveniently ignored.

He's trying to portray the decision as extremely narrow. There's not really much point in doing that as these tribunals aren't real courts, they're just administrative bodies and their decisions, so far as I know, are not binding even on the kangaroo court itself, much less any other court.
 
I must have misread something, I accept any dumb ratings for thinking ogre was being rational

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I thought his overall statement was more along the lines of "the women have a right to refuse to touch a person" in a generally unqualified manner, not this narrow nonsense or anything about affirming troonery. :optimistic: as fuck, I forgot this was troonery per usual.
 
He's trying to portray the decision as extremely narrow. There's not really much point in doing that as these tribunals aren't real courts, they're just administrative bodies and their decisions, so far as I know, are not binding even on the kangaroo court itself, much less any other court.

There's no point legally, but Morgane is smart/desperate enough to know that you can never give an inch in the culture wars.
 
Isn't this the same person who once said if you don't like it go into another line of work (wtte).

Sounds as though he's just trying to cover his backside here.

eta: perhaps I'm getting him mixed up with Yaniv himself. What he did say was "We are all forced to do some things we don't like in our work, grow up. "
 
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Morgane's tweets keep trying to re spin the tribunals findings in a Trans Rights way. All along the way she has repeatedly pushed the trans rights agenda here, but has completely dropped the ball on the fact the woman in the salons basic human right of Consent was also violated. For some one who pushes the narrative that she's a woman, glossing over the imperative nature of consent is a very "manly" thing to do.

Ugh and Morganes latest tweet is using this ruling to back up her stance on the the Rape Crisis Shelter:

It also says, and this is important, that when there is no material difference in the skills and work that is done, for example waxing an arm or providing shelter, a refusal to provide service would be a breach or the code.

Failing to see the consent/boundary issue that she is trying to bully through.
 
Ugh and Morganes latest tweet is using this ruling to back up her stance on the the Rape Crisis Shelter:

It also says, and this is important, that when there is no material difference in the skills and work that is done, for example waxing an arm or providing shelter, a refusal to provide service would be a breach or the code.

Failing to see the consent/boundary issue that she is trying to bully through.
But that is dishonest. When we are talking about a place where privacy matters -- especially in vulnerable places like bathrooms/showers/sleeping quarters -- whether or not someone is physically a male (whether he still has a penis or not) is relevant. And those troons can fuck off if they say differently. They can repeat it 10 million times for all I care -- repetition does not make it true. And trying to do so is taking a page right out of the Nazi handbook: Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. I hope that works out as well for the troons as it did the Nazis.
 
All these comments Morgane is making about the decision make me think back to what he said earlier about the Yaniv court cases, that they "were not the right cases nor the right complainant" (or something similar) that he wanted to go before the tribunal in order to win Tranz Ritez Forevar.

Oger wants trans rights that allow anyone to declare themselves trans and be legally trans; Oger wants any male to be able to self-ID as a "legal" woman/female, but he knows that pedo tampon fetishist Yaniv will never be the sympathetic figure to accomplish such a ruling. Yet what Oger wants to accomplish in court would qualify Yaniv as a legal woman/female. Oger is basically admitting self ID is a bad idea when it comes to Yaniv and pedos/other degenerates like Yaniv, but wanting a sufficiently sympathetic case to go before the tribunal to accomplish it anyway.
 
All these comments Morgane is making about the decision make me think back to what he said earlier about the Yaniv court cases, that they "were not the right cases nor the right complainant" (or something similar) that he wanted to go before the tribunal in order to win Tranz Ritez Forevar.

Oger wants trans rights that allow anyone to declare themselves trans and be legally trans; Oger wants any male to be able to self-ID as a "legal" woman/female, but he knows that pedo tampon fetishist Yaniv will never be the sympathetic figure to accomplish such a ruling. Yet what Oger wants to accomplish in court would qualify Yaniv as a legal woman/female. Oger is basically admitting self ID is a bad idea when it comes to Yaniv and pedos/other degenerates like Yaniv, but wanting a sufficiently sympathetic case to go before the tribunal to accomplish it anyway.

I agree with the concept but not the attribution /motive. Oger's only real wants are around control. He lives a really simple, gamified life. If he can get someone to buy into whatever he's presenting, he gets a hit. The more people recoil at first, the bigger the eventual payoff.

Oger has no independent or original thoughts and no personal investment in anything except his cheap endorphin rushes. His only "long game" strategy is to press the personal boundaries of others, via the legal institutions and media, retreating when he gets too much resistance. All boundaries have weaknesses.

Oger is a spineless, petty person with a defective (or fully beat down) sense of ethics. His transness is a symptom of a very consistent, unhealthy personality. As long as he's getting little bits of power, no debasement is too undignified. He bears almost no consequence for the long term implications of what he's pushing.

Not for the first time, I wonder who is controlling him.
 
I agree with the concept but not the attribution /motive. Oger's only real wants are around control. He lives a really simple, gamified life. If he can get someone to buy into whatever he's presenting, he gets a hit. The more people recoil at first, the bigger the eventual payoff.

Oger has no independent or original thoughts and no personal investment in anything except his cheap endorphin rushes. His only "long game" strategy is to press the personal boundaries of others, via the legal institutions and media, retreating when he gets too much resistance. All boundaries have weaknesses.

Oger is a spineless, petty person with a defective (or fully beat down) sense of ethics. His transness is a symptom of a very consistent, unhealthy personality. As long as he's getting little bits of power, no debasement is too undignified. He bears almost no consequence for the long term implications of what he's pushing.

Not for the first time, I wonder who is controlling him.
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