Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

Actually, I meant Sunday. Whoops, I shouldn't browse KF while drinking. Those are Sunday badges.

 

[Lone Outsider]

I wonder how many other KickVic scumbags are sex pests. It might be more difficult to list the ones who aren't at this point.

I'd go with impossible.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

If there was tortoise interference I wouldn't approve of it, even for that asshole.

But I'll just play the world's tiniest violin and laugh at the irony.

But Dickless literally DID that. So I don't see why a Con couldn't cancel him for real video and photo evidence that HE HIMSELF published. Strong disagree, fam.

 

[Lone Outsider]

Is gothic sushi the girl that catfish prince vegeta, she's been popping up on the live streams.

She's chillin with YF and TUG. Don't know about YF but given TUG's history. That's not a good look.

But Dickless literally DID that. So I don't see why a Con couldn't cancel him for real video and photo evidence that HE HIMSELF published. Strong disagree, fam.

True, WC Wanker is a fucking disgusting creep. We all know that someone like Shane or the DragonCon owner (well, former) would be the only ones that would invite him.

 

[Allanon]

honestly who could give a shit.

if anyone finds this photo unacceptable they are fucking exceptional

it seems like the parents didn't find anything wrong with this photo and neither did the person taking it

if nobody could give a single shit about this photo in 2014 it just proves once again witch hunts exist,

but the random speds at ANN apparently got in contact with this girl i think is what happened.

and somehow 4 years later she is now uncomfortable

and if i remember correctly monica and ron used this pic as the front cover of there TCPA quoiting vic saying something like there is nothing wrong with kissing younger girls.

stupid cunt monica and soy boy ron couldn't even reach out to the girl to actually fucking see if she was a victim or not, they literally used the picture and qoute to hurt vic even further

I don't care if it's normal. I don't care if you're stupid to find the picture inappropriate. I want to know who's doing it, because they're actively participating in this and lying. This picture doesn't exist anywhere from what I can tell. I've searched extensively, and I can't find it. That means it's likely a private image.

It's useful.

We know now it happened Sunday, and that the badge was a special badge. This confirms my wild suspicion that she saw Vic but didn't go around the rest of the con. That means, most likely, this girl is a daughter of the staff, who used her connection to be able to go and take a picture with him.

That means, most likely, the picture is connected to a staff-member who helped run the con, or a vender. More likely than not, it's the former. Not sure about the facebook thing, but worth considering.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

She's chillin with YF and TUG. Don't know about YF but given TUG's history. That's not a good look.


True, WC Wanker is a fucking disgusting creep. We all know that someone like Shane or the DragonCon owner (well, former) would be the only ones that would invite him.

YF is also bad. He just shows less cow-like behavior online other than clickbait shit like blaming FUNimation for censoring Fire Force on basic cable when basic cable S&P is still ruled by arcane Satanic Panic morality to a degree.

 

[Lone Outsider]

YF is also bad. He just shows less cow-like behavior online other than clickbait shit like blaming FUNimation for censoring Fire Force on basic cable when basic cable S&P is still ruled by arcane Satanic Panic morality to a degree.

Heard that about YF, but out of the two, I think TUG is worse.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Heard that about YF, but out of the two, I think TUG is worse.

I'm one of the weirdos who hate YF far more, but TUG's drama queen grifting/sucking EVS off/his wife's gay-ops are generally worse I'll agree.

 

[Lone Outsider]

I'm one of the weirdos who hate YF far more, but TUG's drama queen grifting/sucking EVS off/his wife's gay-ops are generally worse I'll agree.

Each to their own, but what I am preparing for is when a schism is coming out of ISWV, KV may be the dumbfucks but given what big spregs ISWV has, It's clear people are gonna turn on each other. I wouldn't be surprised of TUG would be one of the antis. YF I don't know.

 

[Allanon]

I believe it was YellowFlash who originally made a video saying that the 'SJWs found a weak spot' and just assumed Vic was actually a predator, instead of doing proper research before making his video.

 

[Garm]

She's the ISWV cosplayer who did the better Psylocke cosplay in some competition between her and Dominique Skye. She is the one who leaked the DMs of a few KVers being extremely creepy toward her. I think both Prince Vegeta and Shayokitsune. She seems nice, if mildly catty.

Following up on my previous post about "J", I can't help thinking the reason she wasn't an affiant is because she really, really doesn't want to be identified. Her story is flimsy as it is, but putting her name to it would blow a bigger hole in her credibility. I know people briefly considered it was Hanleia, then decided it wasn't, but I really wonder. It has to be someone either in the ANN loop or someone who responded to Lynzee's tweet, because she got in on the ANN post that first really publicized this. She didn't come up later with the other bandwagoneers. She did it either when it wasn't clear that anything would happen, or with the assurance that it would destroy Vic. She's stuck around enough that she was the one who allowed the TCPA pic (one of the other ANN images is Vic hugging a very young boy in Collosalcon '13, which would be as bad or worse for smearing Vic with; this makes me think "J" specifically okayed the use of her image) but really doesn't want to be identified. Jinnie's affidavit basically did nothing and had nothing salacious in it, but it still got included. Not including "J"s story with new details when they used her 'face' in the beginning is curious.

So who would be a teenager in 2014, probably a fan of Vic at the time, living in NYC with the money to go to a comiccon, white and brunette, and has been orbiting KV since the start? Someone in ANN? Or one of the mouthy kickvic girls? Whose identity would either destroy the credibility of her accusation, or allow for people to easily disprove her claim that he touched her inappropriately and kissed her when she didn't want it?

What's that girl look like who incorrectly attributed Illich's behavior to Vic?

Nyhako or Ny.ako on PULL. She supposedly had brain damage that affected her memory.

Primrose Path had a theory she was Hanleia but couldn't prove anything.

 

[Nontransferable]

Following up on my previous post about "J", I can't help thinking the reason she wasn't an affiant is because she really, really doesn't want to be identified.

She could be identified through the credit card that was used to pay for the photos with Vic.

I'm sure Ty or Nick have been in touch. I'ma leave this one alone.

I wouldn't assume that. Erimin had to pester Ty about giving him her affidavit. I think that and the motion to dismiss showed that he wasn't investing as much time as people thought he was. Stones have been left unturned. I doubt BHBH looked into who this "J" person was.

 

[Mister Y]

"J" is someone entirely different than the three of them. Nobody has ever come forward claiming to be "J" and countering what was said in the ANN article. This is why KV uses that specific set of pictures and why they were in the TCPA etc.

I'm gonna stop discussing with you...
You keep telling me I'm wrong by quoting the ANN as a source... because it's well known that ANN is reliable.
I don't give a fuck about an ANN writer putting J under that picture, ANN writers are liars!
As far as we know, J's story is made up, J doesn't exist, the girl in the picture is not J.

And no, I wasn't talking about Williany Amill either.
Stop pointing other girls that didn't display the described behavior, hoping it will somehow be the one I'm talking about.
I don't remember her twitter name, I didn't save the link, I didn't know I would need it several months later.

Simple pattern: 2 tweets (no less, no more), 2 replies to KV members, explicit denial of the article, and request to stop using her picture.
Casey didn't exactly do that, Mary certainly didn't do that, Williany didn't do that either.

PS: The absence of evidence is no evidence of absence.
No one coming forward to claim to be J and countering the ANN article doesn't make it true by default.
There is no evidence either of J being an actual person to begin with.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

he's chillin with YF and TUG. Don't know about YF but given TUG's history. That's not a good look.

I thought it was just another thirst trap account made by tug's wife.

 

[Mister Y]

@Allanon : I think you're assuming too much.

Alternative option: She is a cosplayer, walked around in her cosplay, and took pictures with Vic at the end of the event, in her regular clothes.
That would explain why you can't spot her in the con footage, and also why there seems to be no one in the picture (it might explain the badge too).

Honnestly, the idea of a daughter of a member of the staff taking picture with Vic in 2014 so he can be defamed in 2019 is a huge stretch.
And, while I recall a Vic fan saying it's her, even if I'm wrong, you shouldn't assume the girl on the picture is KV just because she didn't deny it.
Even if she was ISWV, that doesn't mean she would come forward to deny the allegations, most people don't want to be involved in that shitstorm.
And there is also the last option: She might not even know about the Weeb Wars.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

@Allanon : I think you're assuming too much.

Alternative option: She is a cosplayer, walked around in her cosplay, and took pictures with Vic at the end of the event, in her regular clothes.
That would explain why you can't spot her in the con footage, and also why there seems to be no one in the picture (it might explain the badge too).

Honnestly, the idea of a daughter of a member of the staff taking picture with Vic in 2014 so he can be defamed in 2019 is a huge stretch.
And, while I recall a Vic fan saying it's her, even if I'm wrong, you shouldn't assume the girl on the picture is KV just because she didn't deny it.
Even if she was ISWV, that doesn't mean she would come forward to deny the allegations, most people don't want to be involved in that shitstorm.
And there is also the last option: She might not even know about the Weeb Wars.

@Allanon didn't say that she took the picture in 2014 with the plan to defame him with it later, though. At least, that's not how I understood him.

Also, I think it's safe to say at this point that she's on the KV side. I mean, they used her picture in an official filing in which they basically called Vic a predator. She had to know about this and give her permission. Otherwise, they would have blurred her face.

 

[Mister Y]

@Allanon didn't say that she took the picture in 2014 with the plan to defame him with it later, though. At least, that's not how I understood him.

You're right, my bad, read his messages while writting another, mixed the informations.

Also, I think it's safe to say at this point that she's on the KV side. I mean, they used her picture in an official filing in which they basically called Vic a predator. She had to know about this and give her permission. Otherwise, they would have blurred her face.

Her face is blurred, both in the filling and in the article.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I'm gonna stop discussing with you...
You keep telling me I'm wrong by quoting the ANN as a source... because it's well known that ANN is reliable.
I don't give a fuck about ANN putting J under that picture, ANN writers are liars!
J's story is made up, J doesn't exist, the girl in the picture is not J.

And no, I wasn't talking about Williany Amill either.
Stop pointing other girls that didn't display the described behavior, hoping it will somehow be the one I'm talking about.
I don't remember her twitter name, I didn't save the link, I didn't know I would need it several months later.

Simple pattern: 2 tweets (no less, no more), 2 replies to KV members, explicit denial of the article, and request to stop using her picture.
Casey didn't do exactly that, Mary certainly didn't do that, Williany didn't do that either.

PS: The absence of evidence is no evidence of absence.
No one coming forward to claim to be J and countering the ANN article doesn't make it true by default.
Their is no evidence either of J being an actual person to begin with.

Move the goalposts then end the discussion and insinuate I should be the one to prove a negative rather than you prove your explicit claims. Ok, cool. You win I guess.

My man, this could have ended a long time ago if you showed up with your guns loaded. At least I made an effort of looking shit up here. Do you think you are the only one who had to dig through the pile of half-remembered shit to back it up your side in our little discussion? Make some kind effort for fucks sake. Find the tweets or faceyspacegoogleplusgrams or whatever. Prove me wrong. I legitimately want to see them if you can find them. It would be something that went under the radar because we got nothing on those photos being anywhere but from ANN. We fucking looked. Doesn't mean "J"s story is legit. We damn well know better than to trust ANN for fuck sakes. Just means that whatever shit about someone coming forward and walking it back and being proVic is incorrect.

 

[Focken Kiwi]

@Mister Y, @theworstkindofeurofag, @ColtWalker1847 If you're talking about the picture I think you are, it's been speculated that it's photoshopped.

https://archive.li/2TtCI

Even if it isn't, given ANN's propensity for lying, the image is very likely stolen from or freely given by another individual for the purposes of being taken out of context for libelous claims. I've personally searched for the original for hours early on in this debacle and couldn't turn up the original like many others. I don't think it's worth wasting so much energy on.

 

[Allanon]

Nyhako or Ny.ako on PULL. She supposedly had brain damage that affected her memory.

Primrose Path had a theory she was Hanleia but couldn't prove anything.

Does anyone know what Nyhako looks like?

She could be identified through the credit card that was used to pay for the photos with Vic.



I wouldn't assume that. Erimin had to pester Ty about giving him her affidavit. I think that and the motion to dismiss showed that he wasn't investing as much time as people thought he was. Stones have been left unturned. I doubt BHBH looked into who this "J" person was.

Would anyone keep records for a random credit card purchase 5 years later? If they did, I imagine it would only be NYCCC. I agree, though, I don't think BHBH knows who it is. Knowing Vic he might have a vague idea of her, though, Maybe enough to pick her out of a crowd if she still looked similar.

@Allanon : I think you're assuming too much.

Alternative option: She is a cosplayer, walked around in her cosplay, and took pictures with Vic at the end of the event, in her regular clothes.
That would explain why you can't spot her in the con footage, and also why there seems to be no one in the picture (it might explain the badge too).

Honnestly, the idea of a daughter of a member of the staff taking picture with Vic in 2014 so he can be defamed in 2019 is a huge stretch.
And, while I recall a Vic fan saying it's her, even if I'm wrong, you shouldn't assume the girl on the picture is KV just because she didn't deny it.
Even if she was ISWV, that doesn't mean she would come forward to deny the allegations, most people don't want to be involved in that shitstorm.
And there is also the last option: She might not even know about the Weeb Wars.

It would be weird to be a cosplayer that wanders the whole event and then only goes to pose with Vic out of cosplay. Also, it would be double-strange if she took her cosplay off and went straight to Vic and then left. Otherwise, she'd be wandering the con without her cosplay that day. @Tipsy Tea Cup did you say her badge is unique or that it's a Sunday-only one?

If it's Sunday-only, it means she's a local who came in on Sunday because she couldn't afford more. If it's unique, she's a staffer.

Also, of course she didn't take it with the intent to defame him. She was a legit fan when she took the picture. She just had that in her private collection later when it was convenient. I absolutely do believe she's KV, though. Ten months since the start and it hasn't been taken down, no one can find it, and it was used - and only it - in the TCPA response. She's involved, at least as some kind of orbiter or family of a KV person involved. I know it.