Zinnia Jones / Satana Kennedy / Zachary Antolak / Zack Sklar / Lauren McNamara/Soersdal / @zjemptv - Queen of the Horse Dildos and Defender of Rapists; Transtrender Posing as a Transmedicalist; Dropped out of College after Falling in a Shallow River; Balls-free since 2024

On days like this you can catch Zack snarling at (cis!) parents for thinking they know best for their child.

In light of his many years as an asshole in service to the cause, Zack should be forcibly dosed with human growth hormone. It's past time his Mom's meddling was undone.

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I don't think growth hormone is indicated for simple failure to thrive; I suspect the pediatrician had money in mind. I'm glad Zach's mom didn't consent to it too.

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Everything about that case clicked for me when I learned the little boy has a twin brother. The crazy-ass "mother" is trying to make a name for herself as the next John Money, and everyone else is happily rolling over and allowing it for Woke Points.
This kid will grow up, at best, stunted and sterile, and, at worst, take his own life or at least be severely broken. And the father gets to just helplessly watch, because our legal system has decided you can't possibly have a dick and love your children.

To be fair, the father seems to be douchier than a whole fleet of douche canoes, but at least he's not trying to turn his kid into a woke science experiment.

This reminds me of another case: a couple in Maine adopted twin boys, and wouldn't ya know it, one of them just happened to be a girl. As someone else pointed out upthread, it's always easier to sterilize other people's kids.
 
On days like this you can catch Zack snarling at (cis!) parents for thinking they know best for their child.

In light of his many years as an asshole in service to the cause, Zack should be forcibly dosed with human growth hormone. It's past time his Mom's meddling was undone.

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Questionable hormones aimed at children for thee, but not for me!
 
I don't think growth hormone is indicated for simple failure to thrive; I suspect the pediatrician had money in mind. I'm glad Zach's mom didn't consent to it too.
HGH is FDA approved to "treat" ideopathic short stature (being very short without an obvious explanation like dwarfism or malnourishment). You have to be shorter than 99% of kids your age to be offered HGH. An off label treatment for boys with short stature is low dose androgens, so zach has a bit of a moral issue to grapple with here. He claims his stature and his trannyism are not disease states, but thinks only one of them requires pediatric hormonal treatment.
 
On days like this you can catch Zack snarling at (cis!) parents for thinking they know best for their child.

In light of his many years as an asshole in service to the cause, Zack should be forcibly dosed with human growth hormone. It's past time his Mom's meddling was undone.

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Silly doctor! he turned out normal after all!
 
HGH is FDA approved to "treat" ideopathic short stature (being very short without an obvious explanation like dwarfism or malnourishment). You have to be shorter than 99% of kids your age to be offered HGH. An off label treatment for boys with short stature is low dose androgens, so zach has a bit of a moral issue to grapple with here. He claims his stature and his trannyism are not disease states, but thinks only one of them requires pediatric hormonal treatment.

I don't know about the FDA and the US but is used for other developmental issues than length, including genitals. It is called human growth hormone for a reason. As far as I know it is way less dangerous than wrecking the endocrine system with cross-sex hormones or exotic steroids. Look at Sylvester Stallone, he's a user that is still alive, oddly fit but disturbingly vascular and older than 70.
 
I think catching up on this thread finally made something click with me (and made me blind). You know how Troons are always shrieking that Terves are not only "transphobic hate mongers" but also "anti-sexwurker"? I never looked much into that last part. But this whole "Sexwork is work" slogan, and the concept that any challenge is "hateful discrimination against a marginalized group", is the very narrative that keeps those poor kids trapped in a house with that filthy pervert. If shoving nightmare dildos up one's ass in a jizz encrusted shower all day = sexwork, and it's just a regular 'ol job, than they wouldn't have any legal grounds to remove them. The powers that be would literally have to wait until those kids are snorting baby aspirin and shoving their friend's action figures up their butts before they intervened.
 
Didn't Jazz Jennings do the exact same thing as this kid? Take the same path?
Don't many kids in America?
So why is this case so notable? No single judge is going to completely change the status quo on this issue, so what was the father expecting? The judge to tell the kid you can't switch gender roles and have to go to conversion therapy or live with the father who enforce unwanted masculinity on the kid? That was never going to happen.

All I see is idealogues, Zach and Matt whats his name interfering with the private family matters of complete strangers for political gains. Its one thing to observe and make comment on whats become a public story, but to try and "save" the kid one way or the other when it's not your fucking kid and you're just using this to push a partisan agenda, is kind of sickening tbh. If the father wants to take it further and appeal, thats his business. But when did people's private family lives become such a goddamn circus. Zact chose to be a public figure. This kid did not.
 
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Didn't Jazz Jennings do the exact same thing as this kid? Take the same path?
Don't many kids in America?
So why is this case so notable?

No single judge is going to completely change the status quo on this issue, so what was the father expecting? The judge to tell the kid you can't switch gender roles and have to go to conversion therapy or live with the father who enforce unwanted masculinity on the kid? That was never going to happen.

All I see is idealogues, Zach and Matt whats his name interfering with the private family matters of complete strangers for political gains. Its one thing to observe and make comment on whats become a public story, but to try and "save" the kid one way or the other when it's not your fucking kid and you're just using this to push a partisan agenda, is kind of sickening tbh. If the father wants to take it further and appeal, thats his business. But when did people's private family lives become such a goddamn circus. Zact chose to be a public figure. This kid did not.

1. jazz jennings is sterile, has no libido, and is facing multiple revisions for their genital surgery. All kids who have cross sex hormones after puberty blockers are sterilized.
2. sterilizing people without complete informed consent (see: adults of sound mind deciding for themselves) is seen as such an egregious human rights abuse that you can't even get a severely mentally handicapped person sterilized (to prevent pregnancy in case of sexual abuse, for example). Caregivers for the exceptional are frustrated by these laws because there is a high rate of sexual abuse, and some of them are exceptional due to genetic problems that could be passed on.
3. This case is notable because both parents disagree about what to do and sterility is permanent
4. The judge in family court has more freedom than you imagine to order what they want
5. the governor, state senators, and federal senators are now in the process of drafting legislation to make it illegal to sterilize minors via blockers + cross sex hormones in response to this case
6. this case is also notable because normal people had no idea this was going on. parents that medically transition their children tend to hide the part about sterility. The book "I Am Jazz" doesn't say a god damn thing about any of this.

There is now a gag order on the parties so they can't discuss the case. If it was not this case it would be another one, since people get divorced and disagree about medical treatment all the time.

This shouldn't be allowed to happen at all, I am saying this from a medical perspective rather than a partisan political one. IMO the main reason this has happened is that gender therapists don't understand the level of liability they are assuming when they refer kids out for medical transition. Doctors rely on them heavily to refer properly screened patients, but some state laws and most treatment guidelines say that they are only allowed to affirm a stated gender identity, so it works more like a conveyor belt than a screening system.
 
If it was not this case it would be another one, since people get divorced and disagree about medical treatment all the time.

Just outlaw the practice of trooning out kids entirely, much as they outlawed conversion therapy. If you're not allowed to mindfuck kids to force them to be straight, you shouldn't be able to cause permanent serious physical damage to them to force them to troon out either.

Then it's not a disagreement about medical treatment, it's a disagreement between a criminal who wants to commit felony child abuse and a parent who doesn't.
 
Just outlaw the practice of trooning out kids entirely, much as they outlawed conversion therapy. If you're not allowed to mindfuck kids to force them to be straight, you shouldn't be able to cause permanent serious physical damage to them to force them to troon out either.

Then it's not a disagreement about medical treatment, it's a disagreement between a criminal who wants to commit felony child abuse and a parent who doesn't.

Ah, but you see, you're thinking about this like a cisnormative bigot who has some kind of backward hangup about sterilizing and medically experimenting on children. Once you evolve past your cisheteropatriarchal bias, you will realize that you are actually causing trans kids serious physical damage by forcing them to go through the "wrong" puberty. You transphobic monster.
 
Ah, but you see, you're thinking about this like a cisnormative bigot who has some kind of backward hangup about sterilizing and medically experimenting on children. Once you evolve past your cisheteropatriarchal bias, you will realize that you are actually causing trans kids serious physical damage by forcing them to go through the "wrong" puberty. You transphobic monster.
I have seen that argument a few times. Some dangerhair MTF held a protest sign that was real concise, it simply said "hey kids, puberty is optional!".

It is just so fucking retarded that they claim a natural process that gives reproductive organs a tangible function is equivalent to giving a person drugs that makes those same organs wither & require amputation. How do you even argue with a person who is so out of their minds to think that in the first place? It is baffling. As if "functional" and "dysfunctional" are equally desirable outcomes for human organs.
 
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