2019-10-16 - Federal Grand Jury Subpoena

[Mason Verger]

If you read the documents that were posted, someone sent the shooter bitcoin so he could presumably buy weapons and/or ammo.

That becomes material support for terrorism, and that's what all the hubbub is about, bub.

This isn't about the gestapo rounding up innocent shitposters. If that part of the doc hadn't been posted, the feds wouldn't give a shit, but now they're going to hunt down fag0t like a faggot and see if he knows anything about anything.

Not really directed at you, but idk why anyone isn't reading the actual gd docs in question.

Thanks for the reasonable, non-net kook answer.


And while that makes perfect sense, that still doesn’t explain why the Rothchilds are forcing Trump to gag and bag Null as part of an ancient Passover ritual. I think you need to stop reading official documents and start reading some dank memes, bro.

 

[Cryptojew]

Wait, this isn't the real fag0t account. It was created today. Who's this faggot?

He's also using proper punctuation, whereas it was noted earlier in the thread that the original fag0t didn't.

 

[Twinkie]

You know, this might happen more in the future. Like for happenings, if we archive facebooks and Twitters and shit the feds wouldn't even look at us because FB et al save everything behind the scenes even when they shoah a shooter's page.

But if someone posts a manifesto on some shitty podunk image board and their logs are already purged by the time the feds get there, and kiwi farms is one of the only websites on the entire goddamn web willing to host archives of the manifesto... well, feds needing that manifesto for evidence have to authenticate where they got their evidence from. Nothing personal kid (hopefully. use a vpn.).

 

[KingFrampt]

I run a couple of Tor exit nodes so I get these letters all the time, exact same template. I just ignore them.

It's amusing to observe and contrast @Null's meek humility here with his strident posturing over the Christchurch business, which was fucking cringe by the way. A firm but polite "no" to the Australian authorities would have sufficed, but you had to act like a petulant little shit and make a performance out of it for your silly forum. Not so fucking cocky now, huh fag0t?

You are a champion of the people, I can't believe you run not 1, but 'a couple' tor exit nodes, all while ignoring abuse reports.

This stunning bravery is exactly what we need to bring society forwards,

Lol jk ur a fag totally not mad they're gonna bust you for your tor cp stash. Assuming your 1 day old account isn't just an imitator of course

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

He's also using proper punctuation, whereas it was noted earlier in the thread that the original fag0t didn't.

Both accounts glow imo

 

[Kcidkcussdom]

That becomes material support for terrorism, and that's what all the hubbub is about, bub.

Presumably this means that Null is fucked in the long haul or at least his attempt at keeping government eyes outside of this website. Something similar to this happened to 4chan way back when Moot ran things. Moot just gave into the demands of the Feds and allowed them full access to all user records with access to view any material they seemed necessary, whenever they wanted(users were given heavy implications that federal agents had actual Admin status on the website so they could continue to monitor all posts and threads).

What this opened up was heavy handed logging on 4chan that exists to this day and many users became unaware of this fact until shitposters would post things the Feds did not like or commit actual crimes and post results. Immediately people would be "vanned" within the coming weeks not months.

I'm going to assume that after this little event that "Dear Leader" will be committed to the same practices as Moot had too in order to keep these doors open. Which means nobody's accounts from the beginning of this website to now will be safe and everyones post will be viewed from within the administration side as material evidence.

TL;DR this site is probably about to be a forced Honeypot if the Feds get what they want out of this subpoena. If Null says no he may face some serious consequences (if you think the Government won't abuse somebody's rights to get what they want than you are stupid).

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

If you read the documents that were posted, someone sent the shooter bitcoin so he could presumably buy weapons and/or ammo.

That becomes material support for terrorism, and that's what all the hubbub is about, bub.

This isn't about the gestapo rounding up innocent shitposters. If that part of the doc hadn't been posted, the feds wouldn't give a shit, but now they're going to hunt down fag0t like a faggot and see if he knows anything about anything.

Not really directed at you, but idk why anyone isn't reading the actual gd docs in question.

I'm not sure what you're talking about but nothing in Null's original post of the documents from the Gov says anything about bitcoin transactions that I can see. Unless you're talking about something referenced in one of the threads highlighted in the list of demands document. Or something mentioned in the shooters actual manifesto.

 

[Twinkie]

I'm not sure what you're talking about but nothing in Null's original post of the documents from the Gov says anything about bitcoin transactions that I can see. Unless you're talking about something referenced in one of the threads highlighted in the list of demands document. Or something mentioned in the shooters actual manifesto.

Yes. In the manifesto the shooter mentioned someone funding his activities. Of course the subpoena wouldn't mention that as it would compromise their investigation. It's intentionally vague and low-effort. The tone is cuddly and soft because the recipients of subpoenas like this are typically the catladies and queers employed by facebook, twitter, AT&T and Comcast.
btw pwease don't tell anyone bout dis and if u do pwease call me first uwu

 

[StrawberryDouche]

I'm not sure what you're talking about but nothing in Null's original post of the documents from the Gov says anything about bitcoin transactions that I can see. Unless you're talking about something referenced in one of the threads highlighted in the list of demands document. Or something mentioned in the shooters actual manifesto.

It's in the 'manifesto' fag0t posted to the farms.
e: ninja'd.

 

[Get Phobo]

Lol "just". That applies ONLY to Polish citizens. Not to mention USA hates Poles as they are the only country in EU that still require all the visas to even travel to the US, so Poland requires exactly same thing for the US citizens.

Poland requires visas for their own citizens to travel to the US? Are you sure?
Also, the visa requirement by the US for Poles traveling to the US has been abolished just a few days ago (by Trump), and it will become effective within a matter of weeks.

Anyway, anyone can set up a business. The CEIDG-1 registration form allows you to specify any and all citizenships you may have.

You wanna live in Poland? You're gonna go through visa hell and leave country every 3 month to Ukraine to get a new border stamp and new 3 month working visa until you'd get married. They wouldn't even have to extradite him, just ship to the nearest US army base in country.

No more. See above.

But to start business there you need something like 12 k usd, 3 k for yearly taxes and fees, 9k for the best tax specialist you can afford.

Taxation is done according to what you earn. You are free to specify the size and mode of pre-payment. You can pre-pay a minimal amount, then pay the rest next year, after having evaluated and declared your income.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

Wasn't all the manifesto stuff posted on faceberg and /v/?

If I recall correctly from the thread on the shooting, someone said he posted it to kohlchan and it seemed to be deleted or 404d pretty quickly afterwards. I don't think fag0t ever confirmed that or even said where he got it from.

 

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If you read the documents that were posted, someone sent the shooter bitcoin so he could presumably buy weapons and/or ammo.

That becomes material support for terrorism, and that's what all the hubbub is about, bub.

This isn't about the gestapo rounding up innocent shitposters. If that part of the doc hadn't been posted, the feds wouldn't give a shit, but now they're going to hunt down fag0t like a faggot and see if he knows anything about anything.

Not really directed at you, but idk why anyone isn't reading the actual gd docs in question.

I read the docs on the day.

You think that the fact that someone reposted documents that had been publically posted elsewhere which asserted, without proof, that he had received funding from Mark (which as anyone who knows anything about bitcoin knows would have been dead easy to prove- just give the transaction ID, or the wallet deets) is justification for the targeting by the feds of actual humans who run an internet forum?

If I follow your logic, if this user had not posted that particular document (out of three), the shitbag prosecutor wouldn't have engaged in this particular attack on freedom of speech. Sorry, don't believe that. Indeed, Berman- or his shabbos goys- asked for information regarding to all three documents.

Now, that doesn't mean that this ridiculous request isn't 100% legal. You do live in the Great Satan after all.

 

[XYZpdq]

I dunno. If I'm investigating this shit and there's literally dozens of instances of it being posted then I'd probably investigate literally dozens of posts because that's kind of my fucking job.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

lol, I've not sent anything yet. I spent a week before talking about this privately attempting to solicit legal advice and no one wants to help. I can't afford to pay for help. If I could, I would. I'm sorry but I do this entirely by myself, all the time, on every front. I've been lucky with money this year, but for the last few I've not been lucky and I've not yet undone the financial damage I've done to myself by sticking through this. If the server needs to be fixed, I have to fix it. If the site goes down, I have to put it up. If we can't find hosting, I have to learn BGP, I have to buy the IP ranges, I have to set up the ASN, I have to do all that on myself on a budget of almost nothing. When the site gets hacked, I ask people I know for help, and no one can help, I have to fix that too. I don't know what more I can do to prove my dedication to you, an Internet stranger who runs a few Tor exit nodes.

Given your second sentence, I feel this emotional outburst is not a consequence of me appropriately stacking my priorities in a way that dissatisfies you, but is rather a consequence of your humorless existence, lashing out at me for confessing my UNDYING LOVE FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL . Dipshit. The moment you lose your sense of humor, you lose everything. Why do people pick Right over Left now? Because Left denigrates humor. Pick up that habit and you'll disinherit everything you've gained.

And btw, I've never called myself a champion of civil liberties. I'm just some guy. My goal has only ever be to give people a place where they can say whatever they want, so that when I eventually give up, some better people will remember what it feels like and then go on to make their own.

Feels man. You have accidentally-on-purpose done more to protect the 1st than any internet site that I know of.
Maybe some e-begging to make a legal fund or a 'flee to Ukraine' fund?
Put out a plea for some kind of support?

Also, fag0t, dude ALWAYS TUMBLE YOUR COINS.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

You think that the fact that someone reposted documents that had been publically posted elsewhere which asserted, without proof, that he had received funding from Mark (which as anyone who knows anything about bitcoin knows would have been dead easy to prove- just give the transaction ID, or the wallet deets) is justification for the targeting by the feds of actual humans who run an internet forum?

No, that's not what I think. But you're free to assume what I think until you receive a federal subpoena that says otherwise.

If I follow your logic, if this user had not posted that particular document (out of three), the shitbag prosecutor wouldn't have engaged in this particular attack on freedom of speech. Sorry, don't believe that. Indeed, Berman- or his shabbos goys- asked for information regarding to all three documents.

You're not following my logic, because, if you were, you'd consider the myriad documents and videos that have been posted to this site that have not received a federal subpoena. Why is this one different? None of the others suggested money changed hands to materially support a murder spree. So, logic and history would suggest that had not that portion been posted, the feds would not have issued a subpoena for information.

 

[queerape]

I don't think the majority of us on KF really have anything to worry about, as they are probably on asking for info on fag0t and people linked to them. They wouldn't pore through thousands of shitposts from thousands of users who have noting to do with the situation and have no intel on it.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

I don't think the majority of us on KF really have anything to worry about, as they are probably on asking for info on fag0t and people linked to them. They wouldn't pore through thousands of shitposts from thousands of users who have noting to do with the situation and have no intel on it.

something...something..slippery slope

At first they came for the faggots,
and I did nothing, because I wasn't a faggot...

 

[Mason Verger]

I dunno. If I'm investigating this shit and there's literally dozens of instances of it being posted then I'd probably investigate literally dozens of posts because that's kind of my fucking job.

Haha yeah, especially considering the first things that pop up when you search Nulls name is that he’s.. less than accommodating towards government requests for information. Is anybody surprised that the Feds would skip the carrot and go straight to stick?

This is the kinda of shit we ask for government to do in every other mass shooter/terrorism thread that pops up here. Be proactive, follow the money, get dark web savvy. Stop sucking at this. But when that shit lands on our doorstep we’re all “fuckin jooooooos!”.

This faggot, fag0t, has admitted to being shady as fuck, so fuck em. And when it comes to mass shooters, I don’t give a shit about their cum stained manifestos. The only thing of theirs I want to read of theirs is their autopsy report.

 

[BarberFerdinand]

lol, I've not sent anything yet. I spent a week before talking about this privately attempting to solicit legal advice and no one wants to help. I can't afford to pay for help. If I could, I would.

If you dont mind me asking, what's a ballpark range of how much 'help' would cost?

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

something...something..slippery slope

At first they came for the faggots,
and I did nothing, because I wasn't a faggot...

They're probably already here.