DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Adamska]

Shit and in less than a month he has to start hinting at the christmas begathon so that his piggies will be nice and primed to dig and dig deep to help him out of a big $behind_the_scenes_holiday_emergency. He sure is packing them in close this year, anyone want to bet when the first "Guys i'm nervous" drops? I'm going to put mine on two weeks. I'll put another on him developing spontaneous "choking" around the holidays as well.

A week, and his Wheelchair tier Pigcult which at best maybe makes like 40k a year (if not from rich families and just living off that) will back his 100k+/year lifestyle that he's still too inept to fucking manage.

Pig is like the world's laziest Peter Popoff.

 

[Snout n' Gout]

Some kiwis have theorized that Phil developed his spending habits as a result of not having money while growing up. I doubt this theory since the only evidence we have is Phil's word.

Here's some of my arguments. Phil gave his 3rd grade teacher a $50 bottle of perfume. Would a family that's trying to make ends meet allow their kid to give their teacher a $50 gift in 1990? $50 was a lot more money 30 years ago when a gallon of gas was $1 and the federal minimum wage was $3.80.

They took Phil to the arcade once a week and the comic book store once a week.

Phil's mom didn't work. Dave was the sole income for their house. He apparently made enough money that they were able to take in Phil's cousin and raise her.

They have at least 5 cats. Cats aren't necessarily that expensive, but if you are living hand to mouth, 5 cats is a bit excessive. They also got Phil a bunny. Again, a bunny isn't necessarily expensive, but they had a custom grave stone made for it when it died.

They sent Phil to a private Catholic school for 12 years. A poor family would not be able to do this.

I speculate Phil had a very comfortable upbringing and never went hungry.

And Phil STILL finds a way to shit on his parents by saying that where this live is a "ghetto" and saying that they messed up by not leaving that ghetto ass place they live basically implying he's more successful than they are because he got in debt to have 2 houses. This guy is next level.

 

[DSPGouting]

Yeah, the very fact that he said "I just want people to be nice to me" should tell you everything you need to know about his motivations. He's trying to exploit the disbanding of the SoK by crying crocodile tears. He might even be trying a new tactic, where he vaguely mentions severe financial difficulties in order to plant the "donate money" seed and then goes for a more explicit "I'm a sad boy" message.

2 year old quote from the first real Reeeeeemergency rings true to this day

 

[AckedyACK]

You know what I might actually pay to see? DSP explains it. Just takes a question asked by someone about something he has no understanding of (pretty wide range there that includes basically everything) and tries to explain it to the best of his knowledge.

Don't ask what a "rainy day fund" is though, he has that one pretty nailed down.

 

[Draventren]

Don't ask what a "rainy day fund" is though, he has that one pretty nailed down.

Frankly we need more of those sorts of knowledge bombs from Phil. I've learned more by assuming the opposite of what he says is true than i learned in any level of schooling.

 

[Toilet Man]

Some kiwis have theorized that Phil developed his spending habits as a result of not having money while growing up. I doubt this theory since the only evidence we have is Phil's word.

Exactly. I think it's one of the most exceptional theories out there. The guy shows ZERO symptoms of having grown up poor. His claims of having played a bunch of games across several systems growing up is one of the biggest red flags that should make people question his claims of growing up poor/hard/tough/whatever he said.

I grew up poor and only got to play games if I went to a friend's house or if the system was already old and being sold cheap at second-hand stores. Even then I didn't get to keep them long, my mother would always end up pawning them.

DSP will always be The King of Suffering.

 

[Forbidden Math]

Exactly. I think it's one of the most exceptional theories out there. The guy shows ZERO symptoms of having grown up poor. His claims of having played a bunch of games across several systems growing up is one of the biggest red flags that should make people question his claims of growing up poor/hard/tough/whatever he said.

I grew up poor and only got to play games if I went to a friend's house or if the system was already old and being sold cheap at second-hand stores. Even then I didn't get to keep them long, my mother would always end up pawning them.

DSP will always be The King of Suffering.

That and the man constantly makes himself out to be a victim so of course he says he grew up hard.

That 1 action figure he didn't get as a kid became such a huge deal just shows how this guy was brought up: He was given everything and if he didn't get something it would be a huge deal he'd guilt trip his parents about for years.

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

I know it's fun to theorize but I hope no one truly believes they know anything about how Phil was raised or the type of parents he has. All of our knowledge comes from a pathological liar. In fact, the only thing we know for certain about Phil is that he's willing to lie about anything, at any time, for any reason that his rotted brain comes up with.

Raising children isn't like raising a tamagotchi. You can be a terrible parent and end up with a great child. Woody Harrelson's dad was a contract killer and he turned out to be one of the chillest, most philanthropic people around. Alternatively my parents were fantastic and they ended up with a massive faggot who likes to talk shit about people on an anonymous internet forum.

 

[Muppetmode]

Woody Harrelson's dad was a contract killer and he turned out to be one of the chillest, most philanthropic people around.

Hey I’m sure contract killers can be nice and chill outside of work

 

[Toilet Man]

I know it's fun to theorize but I hope no one truly believes they know anything about how Phil was raised or the type of parents he has. All of our knowledge comes from a pathological liar. In fact, the only thing we know for certain about Phil is that he's willing to lie about anything, at any time, for any reason that his rotted brain comes up with.

It's a fair point, but what I'm basing my parental theories on are things I doubt he'd lie about, such as not knowing how to wash his own clothes or make basic meals. I'd be willing to hear any theories on why he'd lie/pretend to be exceptional in those areas.

The Wolverine figurine story was also a pretty big window into the mentality of lil Pigroach, but that could have also been a story he randomly made up I guess.

Hey I’m sure contract killers can be nice and chill outside of work

By all accounts The Iceman was a great father.

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

It's a fair point, but what I'm basing my parental theories on are things I doubt he'd lie about, such as not knowing how to wash his own clothes or make basic meals. I'd be willing to hear any theories on why he'd lie/pretend to be exceptional in those areas.

His pigheadedness and refusal to learn something he doesn't want to or doesn't think he should need to do is one of the most defining traits of who he is. He will go to absurd lengths to avoid doing something he doesn't want to do, i.e. direct capture instead of camcorder, etc. He had fans making step by step guides on how to do direct capture and for years he would ignore them and just say 'no'. His mother/parents never stood a chance with his mentality. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't want to know how to do those things (cooking/cleaning), likely because he thinks it's women's work. After all, his biggest complaint about losing Leanna was not having someone to cook and clean for him.

 

[Toilet Man]

His pigheadedness and refusal to learn something he doesn't want to or doesn't think he should need to do is one of the most defining traits of who he is. He will go to absurd lengths to avoid doing something he doesn't want to do, i.e. direct capture instead of camcorder, etc. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't want to know how to do those things, likely because he thinks it's women's work. After all, his biggest complaint about losing Leanna was not having someone to cook and clean for him.

And these values were instilled in him by...?

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

And these values were instilled in him by...?

We have no idea where he got those "values". You're trying to define parenting as if it's parents just inputting their beliefs into a child and the child thinks exactly whatever the parent "instilled" in them.

By the same logic his parents should be shameless street beggars. He had to have had that instilled in him, right?

 

[MoonRocker]

I understand we can’t accurately explain why Phil acts the way he does since we have limited information about his parents but given what we know about what they do for him (paint his walls; do his laundry; bail him our financially), he 100% fits the narrative of the spoiled/ rotten single child.

His mom coddled the fuck out of him and he definitely seemed as the type of kid who got what he wanted. That’s why he’s a petulant child in the body of an adult: everything has always been handed to him and now he expects the same from the people who consume his products.

the way Phil frames his relationships with his viewers is the same context as the one he frames with his parents: simply because I exist, you owe me shit.

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Shit, meant to write that in the DSP Main Thread.

 

[Toilet Man]

We have no idea where he got those "values". You're trying to define parenting as if it's parents just inputting their beliefs into a child and the child thinks exactly whatever the parent "instilled" in them.

By the same logic his parents should be shameless street beggars. He had to have had that instilled in him, right?

If you pay your child out of every bad situation, they will turn to begging because they didn't learn to adjust their life to fit around their financial situation. DSP is absolutely a creation of his parents. His mother is by all accounts a very paternalistic stay-at-home mother who did everything for DSP, so of course he's not going to want to do those things she used to do himself, he's going to move a soulmaid in to do them.

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

If you pay your child out of every bad situation, they will turn to begging because they didn't learn to adjust their life to fit around their financial situation. DSP is absolutely a creation of his parents. His mother is by all accounts a very paternalistic stay-at-home mother who did everything for DSP, so of course he's not going to want to do those things she used to do himself, he's going to move a soulmaid in to do them.

You're going around in circles now. This all began with me saying that "it's fun to theorize but we don't know anything". We do not know that Phil's parents have ever bailed him out of anything. You just hit the nail on the head without even realizing it by saying "by all accounts". Not only is it not "accounts", plural, it's specifically one account and that account is a pathological liar. You can watch the Rambo video to see that Phil should never be given any measure of trust in his accounts of what did or didn't happen.

So, again, it's fun to speculate but nobody should be acting as if it's fact that they know anything about anyone else in the DSPverse besides DSP.

 

[Toilet Man]

You're going around in circles now. This all began with me saying that "it's fun to theorize but we don't know anything". We do not know that Phil's parents have ever bailed him out of anything. You just hit the nail on the head without even realizing it by saying "by all accounts". Not only is it not "accounts", plural, it's specifically one account and that account is a pathological liar. You can watch the Rambo video to see that Phil should never be given any measure of trust in his accounts of what did or didn't happen.

So, again, it's fun to speculate but nobody should be acting as if it's fact that they know anything about anyone else in the DSPverse besides DSP.

Well, to actually take this full circle, why would he lie about not doing his own washing, not painting his own walls, leaving shit behind in his kahndo for his parents to deal with, the Wolverine toy, endless trips to the arcade, and so on? These aren't things that benefit him much if at all if they're lies, and because I don't think DSP is very self-aware it makes sense to me that he would let slip this information without knowing it would make him look bad/spoiled/coddled etc.

I get that he can't be trusted, but that doesn't mean all information extracted from him should be discarded. So again I ask, why would he lie about the things I and others are basing our theorizing on regarding his upbringing?

 

[Perpetual Outrage]

Well, to actually take this full circle, why would he lie about not doing his own washing, not painting his own walls, leaving shit behind in his kahndo for his parents to deal with, the Wolverine toy, endless trips to the arcade, and so on? These aren't things that benefit him much if at all if they're lies, and because I don't think DSP is very self-aware it makes sense to me that he would let slip this information without knowing it would make him look bad/spoiled/coddled etc.

I get that he can't be trusted, but that doesn't mean all information extracted from him should be discarded. So again I ask, why would he lie about the things I and others are basing our theorizing on regarding his upbringing?

Because it's Phil. He's been caught lying for absolutely no discernible reason too many times, like how he'd witnessed people dying in helicopter crashes.

You know those 9 personality alignment charts there are with story telling? Lawful Good, Neutral Evil? There should be a 10th added for Phil called Chaotic Untruthful. Motherfucker just lies for the sake of lying.

 

[Pargon]

Because it's Phil. He's been caught lying for absolutely no discernible reason too many times, like how he'd witnessed people dying in helicopter crashes.

You know those 9 personality alignment charts there are with story telling? Lawful Good, Neutral Evil? There should be a 10th added for Phil called Chaotic Untruthful. Motherfucker just lies for the sake of lying.

There also seems to be no true rhyme or reason to the subjects he chooses to lie about versus the ones in which he at least appears to be truthful. I've theorized before that Phil will lie for money or to create a circumstance in which he looks good, but if that were the case all the time then why would a grown man own up to getting his parents to fly cross country, presumably on their own dime, put themselves up in a hotel and spend a weekend performing simple home improvement jobs that most couples tackle on their own?

The only thing I can come up with is that DSP has such a twisted view on what parents owe their children that he believes this is a commonplace thing and therefore nothing to be ashamed about.

 

[Toilet Man]

So he lied about his mother doing his laundry for him for the sake of just lying? I dunno, just seems unnecessarily conspiratorial when the simpler explanation of DSP being a coddled manchild moma's boy seems more appropriate. This whole Chaotic Untruthful thing feels like giving The Pig way too much credit, like a ninja shrouded in a mist of myths, half-truths and lies.

He views his 20's as his childhood and his early 30's as his phase of immaturity. Personally, and of course this isn't a fact because it's all theory, I just think he's a byproduct of overbearing parental micromanagement.