Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Godzilla@1989]

You know, as a fan of the Ultra Series, it brings me attention that I feel like Disney SW and all of franchises (Terminator, Marvel, Star Trek, etc.) today should take a page from that franchise's 40th anniversary series Ultraman Mebius.

What Ultraman Mebius did is that they went back to the Showa Universe where the titular character is the eighth Ultra Brother to come and defend Earth and his human form Mirai learns to bond with a new, inexperienced GUYS screw that includes a hot headed experienced member who witness his old crew get killed in the first episode who wants to prove humans can handle killing monsters on their own, a selfish, cocky soccer-player, a insecure race car driver, a kaiju-obessessed fanboy who has the pressures of adulthood facing him, and a soft preschool teacher. Whereas the What If Trilogy has lackluster new characters that hardly get character development while the old characters get cocked to oblivion, Mebius actually commits to have all the new characters grow over the course of 50 episodes and veteran Ultras show up to actually help the new ones grow and give them wisdom that helps them in the long run. They did it in a way that makes you want to experience the originals for the first time if you are new to the franchise. Y'all should give it a watch as well it's badass as fuck.

Come me crazy, but a tokusatsu show manages to honor the legacy of the originals while progressing new character development for its fresh blood, where as Disney SW, Terminator: Dark Fate, Ghostbusters, and all recent woke-infested franchises are focused on woke culture and pissing on legacies.

EDIT: This includes Gokaiger for Super Sentai and Decade/Zi-O for Kamen Raider as well.

 

[friedshrimp]

Disney isn't associated with any Tolkien adaptations, largely because Tolkien despised Disney down to his shoetops. Not to say The Hobbit movies are good, but they're not really bad in the same way.

This Reylo/Disney sperg I know of hates LOTR cause she finds it cheesy and unrealistic and happy-go-lucky (while being a Disney fan...ironic) and "classist" for focusing on royalty instead of the common folk (does she not know of the hobbits?) and prefers ASOIAF because...Apparently according to her ASOIAF does all the things she wants (plus she has a lady boner for Sansa). If she knew Tolkien also despised Disney she'll grow furious and fume like a mad woman, lol. Honestly she's dumb as a rock, so her "hot takes" on Tolkien shouldn't be taking seriously by anyone.

given Iger's statements that Disney was just that fucking arrogant.

This sounds interesting. Care to explain a little more?

 

[Mola Ram]

and "classist" for focusing on royalty instead of the common folk (does she not know of the hobbits?)

Really hot take for a story where the biggest hero is the half-literate gardener.

If she knew Tolkien also despised Disney she'll grow furious and fume like a mad woman, lol.

Well then definitely don't have her read the letter I referenced in this post:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-816#post-5527833

 

[Adamska]

This sounds interesting. Care to explain a little more?

Not much to it; he was so delusional he changed Galaxy's Edge to be Nu-Wars just based on the dailies for TFA, assuming that the other films will be homeruns too... before it went out into theaters. Then, when it was going to open in a few months (after they rushed it on purpose for tax reasons) he stated that the only ads needed for it was for just him to say that it's open on twitter or something and the money will flow right in because the fanbase will flock to it in mobs.

It's sheer arrogance and hiring people who hate the franchise because of daddy issues, not royalties at this point.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Disney isn't associated with any Tolkien adaptations, largely because Tolkien despised Disney down to his shoetops. Not to say The Hobbit movies are good, but they're not really bad in the same way.

Disney was almost involved with Lord of the Rings back in the nineties when the project was at Miramax for a while (I believed this was the first time Disney was involved with a Miramax project since they were autonomous from the other divisions), but Jackson had a fallout with Harvey Weinstein and Disney over the direction of the film, I heard they wanted him to compressed all three books into one feature. Jackson eventually told them to fuck off and went to New Line, which was also a autonomous division from Warner Bros while still under Time Warner before they merged in 2008, and the New Line people were the ones that told Jackson he'd be better off with three movies for economic reasons.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Ya Boi Zack outside of critiquing comics is a green crayon eating moron

It really bothers me to think American culture might just be an endless cycle back and forth between the radical left and the radical right, if one day it does get to the point where the right becomes too controlling again I will be sorely disappointed.

Which "radical right?" The one that the BBC created after sucking Hitler's dick became verboten when "Operation Barbarossa" happened? Or those whose religion affiliation is anything other than Atheism, Marxism, and/or Communism?

Why can't we seem to figure out a healthy balance?

Marxists, Communists, Islamists and far too many atheists can not tolerant coexistence from the nonbelievers.

 

[Zaryiu]

Everything I hear from Tolkien just sounds better and better. I really should read the LOTR books, although I know it's been tainted by Disney, at least tangentially through The Hobbit Trilogy.

Blame studios executive meddling in the making of that trilogy, Peter Jackson is not a perfect film maker but i do think he should not be blamed for everything wrong in the Hobbit movies

 

[HeyYou]

Benioff and Weiss Reportedly Left ‘Star Wars,’ at Least in Part, Due to “Toxic Fandom”

One source claims that after watching Star Wars fans bully actors and directors from the franchise—and then releasing a widely derided final season of “Game of Thrones”—the two wondered, Who wants to go through that again?

www.vanityfair.com

http://archive.is/4Bsh3

Lmao, what actual manbabies.

 

[Mola Ram]

Benioff and Weiss Reportedly Left ‘Star Wars,’ at Least in Part, Due to “Toxic Fandom”

One source claims that after watching Star Wars fans bully actors and directors from the franchise—and then releasing a widely derided final season of “Game of Thrones”—the two wondered, Who wants to go through that again?

www.vanityfair.com

http://archive.li/4Bsh3

Lmao, what actual manbabies.

The fandom only turned toxic after consuming the shit sandwich that you served up for Season 8.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

The wokeness trend has hit its bell curve so, the static gets louder every time that excuse is made.

 

[HeyYou]

The wokeness trend has hit its bell curve so, the static gets louder every time that excuse is made.

They didn't even mention that they did it because they were woke, they were genuinely just butthurt that they were getting called out for Season 8 and that when they signed on to Star Wars that it was also getting called out.

 

[Creep3r]

Benioff and Weiss Reportedly Left ‘Star Wars,’ at Least in Part, Due to “Toxic Fandom”

One source claims that after watching Star Wars fans bully actors and directors from the franchise—and then releasing a widely derided final season of “Game of Thrones”—the two wondered, Who wants to go through that again?

www.vanityfair.com

http://archive.li/4Bsh3

Lmao, what actual manbabies.

What idiots. The hate surrounding them is probably even bigger and less divided than people's hatred for Disney, Kennedy and RJ. If they think leaving the SW franchise will mean less "fandom toxicity" for them, then they're sorely mistaken. These fuckers will be boo'd at by salty GoT viewers wherever they go. You created this "toxicity" when you produced a shit-tier toxic finisher for your product. You made your bed, now sleep in it.

 

[SheerHeartAttack]

"Could it be that we were wrong and screwed up GoT?"

"No, it's the fans who are wrong."

 

[HeyYou]

There's some other really interesting sprinkles of information in the article as well. Apparently Kathleen was not happy about them taking the Netflix deal at all because Disney and Netflix have an actual serious rivalry. Netflix themselves weren't told until a few days before and were actually cool with them finishing up their Star Wars work first.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

They didn't even mention that they did it because they were woke, they were genuinely just butthurt that they were getting called out for Season 8 and that when they signed on to Star Wars that it was also getting called out.

It sort of plays into the "fuck the customer" mentality but I picked the half-shell of it.

The more this happens the more I ignore mainstream or Kickstarter/indie-startup backed projects by people who use the "toxic fandom" response or variations of it.

 

[Liquid Kent]

Believe it or not I actually agree with you.

The Phantom Menace is both the Prequels at their worst (Jar Jar) but also at their best (Pod Racing, Darth Maul fight) and just in general there's a certain spark and energy to Phantom Menace that is lacking in the other two, you can tell Lucas was really trying, but given it's negative reception I think he somewhat gave up on Episodes 2 and 3, there's something about them I find just kinda dull and bland.

One of my fondest and clearest memories was 9-year old me sitting alone in my living room waiting for dinner to be ready and looking at the Incredible Cross-Sections of Episode I and the DK Visual Guide of Episode I and imagining how the movie would be like with what they were describing in all the different things like the Sith Infiltrator and Gungan Sub.

9 year-old me thought that Darth Maul would be storming Naboo and kidnapping Queen Amidala and other fantasy nonsense like that while Jar Jar was a mechanic who helped repair C3P0 after the Jedi find Amidala sold to Jabba and try to rescue her.

Something about Star Wars and it's magic making a kid think about the possibilities of fiction. Just nothing but identity politics, doublethink, groupthink and a lack of solid creativity that is marketable now with the Mouse as Darth Rattigan.

I really miss Lucas, Zahn, Anderson, Traviss, Luceno Ostrander and Chee.

Yes, even Traviss and Anderson. Sure their Mandalorian and Kyp Durron spergery were a bit much, but looking back now, they're golden. They wanted to try new things but none of them were mean-spirited or talked down to us. Star Wars is a privilege for them all and they never took it as a right. I miss them all and cannot wait for Star Wars to fail at the box office so it becomes a "nerd" interest as more normalfags make fun of people who like it while at the same time they cannot stop sperging out how cool DnD and Marvel and Disney are, things that form a core original nerd identity.

Hypocrites.

 

[Rakdos92]

Yes, even Traviss and Anderson. Sure their Mandalorian and Kyp Durron spergery were a bit much, but looking back now, they're golden. They wanted to try new things but none of them were mean-spirited or talked down to us.

Uuuh, Traviss did talk down to us. She flatout called critics and not-fans of her mandalorians the equivalent to the taliban.

 

[Liquid Kent]

Uuuh, Traviss did talk down to us. She flatout called critics and not-fans of her mandalorians the equivalent to the taliban.

Shit, really? That I didn't know... Sorry. Must be a GOTIS thing

 

[HeyYou]

Uuuh, Traviss did talk down to us. She flatout called critics and not-fans of her mandalorians the equivalent to the taliban.

Yeah, I was about to say. Traviss definitely isn't woke, but she was probably the closest in the old EU to how Disney is currently acting.

 

[friedshrimp]

Really hot take for a story where the biggest hero is the half-literate gardener.



Well then definitely don't have her read the letter I referenced in this post:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-816#post-5527833

She's not very smart, like I tell you. She thinks Han Solo is an abusive evil character yet Kylo Ren is "complex" and "misunderstood", and apparently Princess Aurora is the most complex female character ever made, so yeah...She's probably some refugee from Bizarro World or something.

Also fuck D&D. I can totally see them going on the woke excuse so Daddy Disney could protect them, but I know if Disney wasn't so self-absorbed and watched media outside their crappy movies they'd also be raging at the ending. If Daenerys was a Disney Princess they would not stop complaining about how "misogynistic" it was that she didn't get the throne at the end.