Since @Judge Holden already brought it up, I may as well discuss it. The Resistance Reborn book is another shitty attempt by Disney to "fix" TLJ and IX by not just removing the FinnxRose romance for the Chinese (while also probably setting up the rumored FinnxPoe pandering for IX) but also explaining how the Resistance magically rebuilt itself thanks to "Hope™" and how the characters are totally friends and Leia and 3PO love them to bits. The book itself is stated to be "the most important" nu-novel in SW and "absolutely essential" for IX since it will explain a lot of plot holes in IX and TLJ regarding the Resistance, the characters and new arrivals, much like the shitty new Resistance Marvel comics that are the only ones that explain where the fuck the Ackbar Donut Steal came from.
Hey, remember when you'd go and watch a trilogy and the first movie would set up the plot, places and characters, the second movie would expand on that world, escalate the conflict and then the third movie would conclude everything and bring it to a close?
Yeah, I miss those times, too.
Now, we have a first act that doesn't set up the setting, a middle act that ends the plot (without really concluding it) and then a third act, that tries to be a second act, while also negating the second movie and then somehow tries to be an end to both second acts, one of which already aborted everything...
...and to figure out anything (and I mean
a n y t h i n g ), you have to buy a shitton of poorly written novels full of fart jokes or atrociously drawn comic books full of traced people?
This article is hilarious. Leia had to be the star huh? Shouldn't have been so quick to kill off Han and Luke. Now you have no one
This is an abhorrent idea. The obvious "YAS QUEEEEEEEEEN SLAY" bullshit aside and how this also fucks over Luke, who would have taken a look at Carrie Fisher and thought to himself "Yeah, this gal is going to kick ass as the Uber Jedi of this trilogy"?
And just for shits n giggles, what is the big idea behind all this? To take away Luke's fame and give it to Leia... why? Just to fulfill the "Force is Female" bullshit and to retcon Luke away? I really don't fucking understand this.
Plus even if you grant the premise that she doesn’t have to tell him, the movie does not treat this as if it were a mistake, despite the fact that it had catastrophic consequences that played out right on screen.
It treats her like she knew what she was doing to whole time, even as she’s in the process of fucking everything up and leading them into an inescapeable trap.
It's surreal. The evidence that Holdo is a shitty Admiral is right there in the movie:
Her incompetence
leads to a mutiny. The mutineers aren't some rash asshole mansplainers that itch for a fight, they are a bunch of soldiers D E S P E R A T E to save their friends! Poe
begs Holdo to tell her that they have a plan. He doesn't even demand to hear the plan, just that she tells him that there *
IS* a plan. Her reaction? Some platitude about hope being like the sun.
That is what makes this movie, even by its own rules, illogical. The characters tell you that Poe was wrong all along and that Holdo did everything right, but she is an uppity bitch towards Poe for no reason - mind you, Holdo says to Leia that she really likes Poe! So why doesn't she tell him? She has no reason not to. The movie doesn't give her one and the fanfiction that TLJ-fanboys have given range always are completely nonsensical. "She didn't know whether she could trust Poe" -> She likes him. She trusts him. There is no - absolutely NO! - reason not to trust him.
The people in the movie insist that Poe made a mistake, but you can point at the movie and say: This is why Poe was right. This is why Poe was right all along in everything he did. This is why he was justified.
Which brings me to my next point. Hoooo.
Boy:
Poe made a massive tactical mistake, BUT he still commands the fighter wing.
Even a line saying "We have reason to believe our internal communications have been compromised. So General Organa kept this plan down to a small number of people. I am the only one who is still alive other then her. I need you to trust me"
but then the movie wouldnt happen
Poe made a "Massive Mistake" the movie said so
Poe Disagreed and the movie says poe was wrong for doing so
I said the MOVIE said they werent [even though that didnt make sense] and you need to judge the movies internal logic by the standard it sets for itself to be able to suss out the deeper meanings of the story and narrative
The people in the movie (ie: Leia and Holdo) say he made a massive mistake. But as has been said, the movie depicts the exact opposite.
Poe was ordered to withdraw from the First Order, but he didn't, thus he destroyed the dreadnaught but lost a couple of his fighters and their (nice looking but ultimately utterly worthless) bombers.
Here's the fucking thing: I just watched that battle, watched it in Slow-Mo and counted every on-screen explosion of a fighter.
Since it's a flashy battle, I figured I would get a decent headcount with the Resistance losing a couple A- and X-Wings alongside their bombers but what I actually saw once I slowed down the footage actually makes me speechless:
On screen, the Resistance loses exactly 2 X-Wings and their 8 Bombers.
According to the Wookiepedia, the Resistance losses are higher though.
They lost 3 X-Wings, one A-Wing and their 8 bombers.
The A- and X-Wings are piloted by one guy each, the bombers are manned by a crew of 4. A total of 35 pilots lost.
What did the First Order lose in turn?
On screen, at least 12 TIE fighters are destroyed. And, y'know... the First Order also loses their 7.7km long Dreadnaught, manned by a crew of more than 210.000 people.
Two. Hundred. And ten. Fucking. Thousand. People.
By what metric is this anything but an utterly, ridiculously, cartoonishly, mind-blowingly CRUSHING victory for the Resistance at an absolutely insanely low cost?
The "movie" doesn't say Poe made a massive mistake. It's Leia and Holdo that did.
And they are wrong. They are wrong to such an insane degree, that it defies all logic. We would need to invent some non-euclidean, 5 dimensional hypercube quantum-logic to just comprehend this line of thinking and then it would still be completely wrong.
The movie is saying "Poe is a goddamned hero for bringing down that massive threat" - and that is even before the Resistance is tracked by Snoke's
HMS Asspull Supremacy. If the Dreadnaught had been around back then, it would have grilled the last few Resistance ships within a minute.
If the Dreadnaught had been present at Not!Hoth, it would have obliterated the Resistance base within a minute.
So thank fuck Poe did the right thing and achieved a massive, crushing, stunning, incomprehensibly cheap tactical victory for his side. Or else they'd be fucked.
Similarly, when your supposed leader does everything in her power to make you believe that she has absolutely no clue, no plan and is utterly incompetent and outright hostile, when your own survival and that of your friends is at stake, you need to take the helm - by force if necessary - to try and save as many as you can.
Poe was given absolutely every reason to believe that Holdo was incompetent, had no plan and was going to get them all killed. So any plan was better than what Holdo was doing.
Poe was justified in trying to take the helm and save his friends and his plan might have worked if Finn and Rose hadn't been too fucking dumb to get a propper parking spot, too.
Another fun bit: When Poe wakes up in the shuttle craft and learns about Holdo's plan, he likes the plan and says that it could work.
Here's the thing: That is illogical in and of itself.
1) There is no way the First Order does not know about the former rebell base on Not!Hoth. So they should have checked it out, no matter what would happen with the Raddus.
2) There is no way the First Order would not have seen the fucking Shuttlecraft. They are visible from Snoke's knock-off throne room by the naked fucking eye. So escaping unnoticed is utterly impossible - yet the movie pretends that it is.
3) Any signal strong enough to reach the Resistance's allies should have also told the First Order where they are.
4) In stark contrast to Hoth, Not!Hoth had no shield emitter, thus hiding there was suicidal from the get-go. It being a deadend for their forces notwithstanding. They had no capacity to evacuate and no matter what allies would show up, they'd take way too long to help.
Going to Not!Hoth was a shitty plan, no matter what Leia or Poe say. Full stop.
And since we're at it:
If anything, Poe should have been demoted or incarcerated for committing a war crime by pretending to initiate diplomatic talks with Hux while preparing an attack.
Leia should have been demoted for slapping Poe and send to jail. No, I am not kidding. That's what armies do with their Generals if they lay hands on their soldiers. It happened to Patton during WW2.
Something I never saw anyone bring up:
Before the space battle with the shitty bombers starts, a female A-Wing pilot is seen ordering said bombers to "keep a tight formation". Given that at least 2 get destroyed by a chain reaction after one explodes, she's to blame in large part for the bombers failure.
This movie has a very strong theme of women giving orders that are absolutely dim-witted and counterproductive.
The last remaining bomber takes a hit in the cockpit, which kills the Pilot, this explosion knocks Rose's sister down the stairs. How in the fuck is she still alive? The cockpit is completely gone and the whole bomber should be filled with nothing but a hard vacuum and the floating, shock-frosted body of a hot asian chick.
The Narrative and story has a set of logical. It doesnt WORK but the narrative has a internal logic. It breaks plot, stories, characters, and the universe to make its logic seem to work
What does that even mean?
You can't argue that the movie sets up rules according to which Poe made a "massive tactical mistake" and then argue that there are no such rules, since the logic is not working.
further [Leia blaming Poe for something beyond his control, and the movie wanting poe to be viewed as wrong] Ties in with Rian's theme about how the Military Industrial Complex is the real villian [Not the dark side] and how the Military Industrial complex manipulates both sides of the war. Poe was wrong for participating in a rigged game.
and
The only way to break out of the rigged game is a disruptive strategy [by holdo]. And done by Rose and Poe on the planet when they realized the way out is to not play the game and break it
Rei realized that by breaking the Light saber.
You're pulling this straight from your own ass, don't you?
This is easily one of the dumbest things I've read in a very long time. No offense, just an observation.
Holdo is trying to break the MCI bullshit subplot by being an uppity bitch. Sure.
So apparently Iger announced that the movies will go on hiatus, meaning there’s no movies for 2022.
This is amusing that it comes right before TROS.
Even though the next Star Wars movie to hit the big screen set a new pre-sale record, it will be the last time for at least a while that fans have to go to the cineplex to watch stories unfold in a galaxy far, far away. Indeed, after The Rise of Skywalker opens in December, Star Wars films will...
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I really hope this is true. it would be the biggest admission of defeat we could wish for.
In another fun story, TROS toys are already on clearance sale.
What is this I don't even.
because whatever you might think about the last isekai or harem rehash, for the most part it comes from a single author or mangaka who just wants to do a good story and isn't trying to sell a product to 20 different cultures with different values to maximize profits.
Well, they still try to pander to a market in many cases, that's why we get so many moeblob isekai rehashes... but you know what?
More power to these authors. They look at an audience and give that audience what it wants. They don't try to shoehorn stupid bullshit into it, just to spite their core customer base for stupid, petty reasons.
Was it MauLer or HFM or E;R, which one of those pointed out that you can string together any sequence of events in this movie, any sequence of lines, and demonstrate that it's what the movie's about, since it's so vapidly devoid of any actual theme. Just as Rey is devoid of character and must be projected upon to become compelling to the audience, so to is the plot void of character, and it too must be projected upon to become compelling to the audience.
Mauler. He used the term "Resurrection"-
Holy balls. I looked them up, and yup, totally real. That is legitimately shocking. Star Wars under Lucas prided itself on its artistry. What the fuck happened to Ralph McQuarrie?
The fact that Rian Johnson turned in those storyboards and wasn't fired on the spot tells you everything you need to know about Disney Star Wars.
My brain hurts. This has to be a ruse. Tell me this is a ruse. ffs.
