Shy Hard 2: Shy Harder

[mooooo]

my problem is similar to those already listed.

i could not fully retract the foreskin whilst erect and the part of the head that was out was sensitive to the point where it was very unplesant due to being exposed to air.

recently i tried again whilst it was half-erect and it went a bit further, but was painfull. it felt like grit had built up on the head and was digging into the foreskin when it was being pulled back, which is very unlikely. but could it be smegma?

i have read about stretching excercises in other posts and will try to do them but the pain and sensitivity are a big problem even whilst exposing the head to decrease its sensitivity. im about 15.5 btw.

lol yeah, still got the sensitivity issue. Thinking of a frenuloplasty.

So, does this mean that Marjan's plan to bring laxatives and a knife to a date isn't romantic either? Wow, I'm shocked.

I don't think he identifies as LS. In any case, he's basically a caricature of himself by now. No one would actually do that

 

[Saney]

I don't think he identifies as LS. In any case, he's basically a caricature of himself by now. No one would actually do that

He says he still identifies as one for...convoluted, nonsensical reasons.
He probably would, he's kind of an insane idiot. But then, that would require him getting a date in the first place, so I guess the women of Croatia are safe.

 

[CatParty]

lol yeah, still got the sensitivity issue. Thinking of a frenuloplasty.

On a typical Friday night I am
Well me and my friends have a pre-arranged thing called "kebab night". Its generally congregation at someones house, food, maybe tv, then often muliplayer gaming. Its a nerdy affair but fun nontheless . I also dont mind going to a pub, or some other activity.

 

[mooooo]

On a typical Friday night I am
Well me and my friends have a pre-arranged thing called "kebab night". Its generally congregation at someones house, food, maybe tv, then often muliplayer gaming. Its a nerdy affair but fun nontheless . I also dont mind going to a pub, or some other activity.

Was that okcupid? I can't remember, years ago.

 

[CatParty]

Was that okcupid? I can't remember, years ago.

nice tits (not hers)

 

[BriarHeart]

I just realized something about the whole "it's easier for women to get sex!1!" meme that floats around loveshy circles. Let's allow them that sure, on average, it's easier for women to have sexual encounters with men. Why is that a good thing for them? With men, sex is simple. Barring any complications like erectile dysfunction, sex equals orgasm. Great! But according to, I dunno, every woman ever, achieving orgasm is a much, much more complicated equation where sex divided by foreplay squared, added to the willingness of the guy to listen and adapt to their needs, multiplied by whether the guy even gives a fuck about her enjoyment in the first place, and averaged out with the estimated probability that the guy will or will not respect her set boundaries, equals a huge clusterfuck.

Men's orgasms are binary; they either happen or they don't. Women's orgasms are a fucking quadratic graph where all of the variables determine what kind of orgasm she gets, if she even gets one, and whether the whole experience is actually enjoyable at all. If a woman calculates all of those variables and estimates that the dudebro hitting on her isn't going to give her a fun and satisfying sexual encounter, I don't blame her for turning him down in favor of a hot bath, a glass of wine and a vibrator back at home. Hell, I would too.

TL;DR - On average, it's easier for women to get sex, but it's much easier for men to get orgasms. I'm not sure if women have the better end of the stick here.

 

[4Macie]

The way you guys tell it, you sure don't make them sound like people.
@4Macie, @flossman, come here, you're gonna love this guy.

The fuck did I just read? Holden Jrs up in here.

So the raped person can never be responsible for the rape? They can never be at fault it seems. No matter how much they seem to desire being truly dominated and no matter how much they 'let it happen', they are never the one to blame? You can never say she was 'asking for it'. . . but to be raped, that's the gift of ulitmate control, complete dominance and complete submission.
And what is that difference? Interestingly I'm actually discussing rape with another new poster as well. . . since the difference between rape and domination is 'consent', what gives consent? Attraction, just with animals and their mating rituals of sexual display - if you are attractive, good sperm, then it's not rape.

Um.. say what now? We found someone slightly dumber than Holden. So that's a thing.

Women are not free thinkers.
Women are not creative.
Women do not innovate.

QUICK! (without looking something up) Name 3 famous female inventors.

Too hard? name ONE.

Give up? Yeah,....thats what I fuckin thought.

I'm sorry, it's not MY fault that a MAN can't list any female inventors off the top of his head. It doesn't prove anything.
I, a WOMAN, on the other hand, had no fucking problem with it.
Mary Anderson: invented the windshield wipers. That's right bitches.
Ruth Handler: didn't "invent" it but she created Barbie Dolls
Stephanie Kwolek (or Kwolak... I forget): invented Kevlar
Dr. Giuliana Tesoro: she has over 200 patents to her name. These are things we use every day to have clothes and other material goods
Ruth Wakefield: invented the recipe for Chocolate Chip Cookies. Yeah, that's right. Fucking cookies.
Don't forget Marie Curie. If you don't know who that is. You're fucking ignorant.
Seriously, any of these ignorant fucks on these forums? Cuz I can name a lot more.
Not a lot of things piss me off, but the one thing that does is ignorant people saying they're right because THEY don't know something. It's not women's fault that a man doesn't know female scientists or inventors. That's his own fault for not being interested enough to learn and the school system for obviously failing to teach him.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

@mooooo , why do you still care about Loveshy and incel stuff when you are a married man? Isn't it time to move on and drop all those weird terms? I think the Loveshy forums are a very negative atmosphere to be around, why not adopt a more positive attitude in life?

Loveshy and incel are bullshit and you know it. The only people who care about it, are people who aren't getting any. Now you're getting laid, why even bother? Seems like a waste of time. Time you could be spending losing weight, getting in a healthy shape, making sweet love to your wife and building up a future together.

You know, a similar notion was starting to rankle me. I can understand why one might continue one's involvement a support forum that one has outgrown, if one has friends there and feels attached to the community. But why come here to talk about it more? The vast majority of this guy's posts are in this thread, and the sluthate thread, from which he was banned. He's not really participating in the kiwi community.

Instead, he's just hanging around here telling us how smart he is, shifting the goalposts like crazy whenever anyone tries to establish repartee, and repeatedly bringing up his creepy volunteer sexual surrogate loveshy therapy daydream...oh. Oh, ew.

One begins to suspect this is a kink thing for him, like we're all being coercively involved in someone else's sex fantasy.

@mooooo , if this is a paraphilia you've got going on here...well, liking the idea of nice patient girls who will fuck you within an oddly medicalized framework is a hell of a lot less offputting than liking the idea of fucking dogs. Figure out your kinks, accept and explore them with people who actually want to participate! You've previously referred to your wife as a virgin in the present tense, so maybe you'd want to prioritize bringing her on board. Leave the rest of us out of it.

If this is not the case, you might want to look closely at the way you've been comporting yourself and figure out how not to seem like a weird pedantic unethical pervert all the time. This is a venue for laughing at the eccentric and counterproductive behavior of ridiculous people. If everyone is paying attention to you here, you are doing something wrong.

 

[HickoryDickory]

If this is not the case, you might want to look closely at the way you've been comporting yourself and figure out how not to seem like a weird pedantic unethical pervert all the time. This is a venue for laughing at the eccentric and counterproductive behavior of ridiculous people. If everyone is paying attention to you here, you are doing something wrong.

Indeed. I was going to post similar after I read that he wasn't going to engage my "trolling" behavior, but then did... That's just too easy and it's not likely to go anywhere anyways. I'm just an automaton that has no feelings nor dreams due to having a vajayjay.

P.S.
@Cuddlebug --

 

[DuskEngine]

I subscribe to the MBTI model of cognition,

The MBTI is about as scientifically valid as astrology.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

By vending machine, I mean they hold some kind of view that if they do "action" they should receive china. Instead of interacting with a person with their own motivations, it's a mechanical interaction.

And frenuplasty? Seriously? Wut am I reading?

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

Indeed. I was going to post similar after I read that he wasn't going to engage my "trolling" behavior, but then did... That's just too easy and it's not likely to go anywhere anyways. I'm just an automaton that has no feelings nor dreams due to having a vajayjay.

P.S.
@Cuddlebug --

Are you ugly, though? According to the good Dr. Weininger, that's how we can tell you have a male soul and hence the capacity for independent feelings and thoughts. Heck, it's just as much "science" as the MBTI, and a lot of that evo psych stuff.

(Really, @WanderingVagabond , I can't thank you enough for sharing that list of "incel literature" a while back. It was weirdly fun to read. And @HickoryDickory , I am sure your personal attractiveness is beyond reproach - I'd feel terrible if you thought I was poking fun.)

 

[BT 075]

Fonduman\ @mooooo feels the need to prove he's with a naked lady RIGHT NOW U GUISE!!1

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

@mooooo , post your CV too.

 

[BriarHeart]

"I have a NAKED WOMAN lying beside me RIGHT NOW, you guys! Her actual-factual, entirely-not-made-up existence shields me from getting my insecure, self-loathing jimmies rustled, because getting a girlfriend automatically resolved every underlying psychological issue I have had! SRSLY U GUISE."

>posts pic as "proof"
>no verification or timestamp shown

Pull the other one, @mooooo, it's got bells on.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

@mooooo , you have repeatedly indicated that you are working to overcome the feeling that your sexuality is shameful, disgusting and something to hide. Simultaneously, you're massively obtruding your personal, private issues into venues where it is neither welcome nor appropriate. I would prefer you to have more shame, frankly.

Like you are basically wandering around the entire internet with your dick out. Somehow, you even managed to be the weird inappropriate oversharing man on a forum devoted to foreskins. (source, backup) That's an accomplishment right there; maybe you should add it to your CV. (Post your CV.)

Confidential to kiwis: You'd have to join the forum in order to view image attachments; if you choose to do that, you are made of sterner stuff than I. But you can safely see other users asking, "Did you confuse this forum with hotornot for foreskin? [horrified emoticon]" criticizing our friend fonduman for his dirty fingernails, the size of his genitals and overall personal hygiene, and giving him tips on setting the white balance on his camera for natural and more pleasant skin tones in his future dick pics. Like his dick pics were so bad, someone actually took time out of their day to do that.

@mooooo , you've turned this thread into a sort of cringe comedy act, where a rotating cast of straightmen gives you sensible perspective, and then you metaphorically kick yourself in the balls. Also, in the absence of evidence that she is into being objectified, it is gross and weird how you refer to your partner generically as "a naked girl" and post an intimate picture of her in order to gain...what? Internet credibility points? The hell is wrong with you, man.

 

[DuskEngine]

Fonduman\ @mooooo feels the need to prove he's with a naked lady RIGHT NOW U GUISE!!1

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Did you just post a nude picture of your girlfriend on the internet for brownie points on a forum? Ew, dude.

 

[HickoryDickory]

Fonduman\ @mooooo feels the need to prove he's with a naked lady RIGHT NOW U GUISE!!1

Obviously it's Advanced. Many people have thought he was a pretty lady, too... No one with any decency would post a photo of their s/o topless just to give a limp middle finger to a forum that doesn't really care.

@buster_kitten -- No worries!

 

[SU 390]

Are you a loveshy? Look at your previous comment.

It's a combination of wanting companionship with the opposite sex without it being a huge ordeal, not being flaked on, and not doing an 180 personality shift on them.

I wouldn't say loveshy in a sense. Just unable to be seen as boyfriend material. At the moment, I don't believe in love.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying that. People seemed to be using the terms interchangeably and it's difficult to keep it straight.

Y'know, speaking from experience, these guys/girls would do a lot better in life if they actually got off the internet and sought help for their problems instead of projecting it on to others. I have high anxiety, depression and a couple other issues, but what helped me greatly was taking an 8 week group therapy on anxiety and coping. (I also took ones regarding relaxation and social interactions, plus more -- Don't think they're overnight miracles tho. I've been in therapy for 16 years and counting)

Starting small and expanding is what it's all about. A part of the therapy was also holding other peoples hands or arm/shoulder to get comfortable touching other people in positive ways. There was also lessons on practicing correct eye contact and a breakdown of mannerisms that are negative or show fear, as well as positive ones. -- Not also to mention having to at least approach at least one person per day and compliment them in some way. It's probably easier for me to do since I'm female, so I'd go up to people and compliment them on their purse, hat, jacket, etc. It made me feel confident, especially when a lady would smile and get chatty about where they got their purse and how much it cost, etc.

Due to all my hard work breaking away from being a hermit, I've been employed for the past 6 years and made nice friends and acquaintances at work and taking up art classes twice a week for more interaction. Sex was never the end goal for me as I'm asexual, but the feeling with going out with the girls once in a while is all I really wanted.

What type of therapy program is this? I would like to learn more about it.

Why do you assume woman have an easy time dating or entering into a relationship?

I have an actual diagnosed anxiety disorder, and the idea that there's nothing they could do is patently false. There are tons of therapies for anxiety disorders especially social anxiety.

Women are seen as docile no matter what their mental or social status is. In today's social climate, men are seen as dangerous and aggressive. Hell, even men with social and mental issues are seen as timebombs. Stories of dangerous women are swept under the rug or hidden very well.

Not female. Just wondering why it's assumed women have it easy on the relationship front. It really seems like loveshies, incels, and other like groups see woman as objects. You put in the coin and out pops a wife/sex. Women aren't vending machines, they're people with hopes, dreams and their own personalities.

It's not about seeing women as objects. It's more about men work twice as hard to get into a relationship. A woman is still going to have options regardless no matter what her social circle is like. Men have it harder on dating websites. When I had an OKCupid account, I was lucky enough to see at least 2 or 3 inbox messages in one whole week.

so you obviously have other issues stunting your dating that go along with blaming the entire world for your own short comings.
here, this will get you on your way to being a productive member of society
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Girlfriend

I'm going to have fun analyzing these pictures on the other thread @CatParty.

 

[Marvin]

Women are seen as docile no matter what their mental or social status is. In today's social climate, men are seen as dangerous and aggressive. Hell, even men with social and mental issues are seen as timebombs. Stories of dangerous women are swept under the rug or hidden very well.

Are you really qualified to categorically make these claims?