Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[AnOminous]

Why does she think they want her dead? Their's strong destinction between overtly disliking someone and wanted them 6ft under?

Let's just say I wouldn't exactly weep. I'd still rather see her live long enough to become a cocksucking trailer park meth whore after seeing everyone she fucked over and stabbed in the back go on to a better life than hers.

 

[Pargon]

Let's just say I wouldn't exactly weep. I'd still rather see her live long enough to become a cocksucking trailer park meth whore after seeing everyone she fucked over and stabbed in the back go on to a better life than hers.

If it were quick I think there'd be bonus points involved if it occurred in such a way that it were recorded and uploaded to unscrupulous sites on the internet.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

She's playing suicidal victim card again.
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Oh woe is me .... here’s a link to my patreonX I don’t know why anyone should care she’s supposedly “suicidal” when she knew Alec was battling depression and suicide and made false allegations of sexual abuse to cut off his family and friends support.

I definitely don’t want her dead, even though she’s a bpd narcissist somewhere is asliver of guilt over what she caused Alec to do as well as the Kickstarter scam and the other horrendous shit she’s done.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

after seeing everyone she fucked over and stabbed in the back go on to a better life than hers.

Well, except of Alec. He ded.

 

[TheGuntMobile99]

Well i do feel better with undeniable proof that lizard brain Zoe is feeling the effect of people calling her out on this bullshit, its a small consolation but still

 

[SBG]

Having people hate her probably doesn't bother her near as much as being mocked for being an awful person.

With a regular hatred (people calling her a cunt or asshole) she can write it off as jealousy, sexism, or whatever, but being flat out mocked like the Resetera Takes account did means it's just taken as a matter of fact that she's an awful person people consider responsible for the suicide she helped provoke.

 

[Humble Shitpost Merchant]

It’s kind of profound how Holowka’s suicide quickly killed the big Me Too push in gaming that was going on at the time. People barely give a shit about Alexis Kennedy and Jeremy Soule at this point, aside from cynically hoping that they don’t off themselves too and bring them even more backlash in the process. They all just kinda slithered off, comforted by the fact that there was enough diffusion of responsibility involved that no one person is completely guilty of driving someone else to suicide. Only partially, in a highly compartmentalized death camp kind of way.

I don’t think Zoe will ever really forgive Alec for ruining her big moment. But I’ll at least say that, while it was probably more out of cunning than compassion, it was still better optics on her part to show sympathy for Holowka’s suicide. I mean, compare that to the big medium post his fellow dev Scott Benson made about “surviving” Alec, and how it was really all about what Holowka did to him rather than Holowka’s death.

Good on Scott Benson and Zoe Quinn on surviving Alec Holowka, because he sure as hell didn’t survive them. People are always going to hold this over them, and while that’s unfair it’s just also human nature. I mean, did they really think Holowka wouldn’t have had to live the rest of his life without other people holding the stuff he might’ve done over his head?

If they don’t want to have to deal with it anymore, well, Alec already figured one way out. It’s either that or just get off the fucking internet, the fucking morons. Their twitter brands are poisonous to everyone outside their cults, just log off.

 

[Tour of Italy]

So is RebelJam ever happening or what?

 

[Pargon]

People are always going to hold this over them, and while that’s unfair it’s just also human nature.

I don't think it's at all unfair. One pushed a man over the brink into ending his own life and the other was a trusted friend who had the opportunity to stand by someone close to him and decided not only not to do that but also to repeatedly throw them under the bus after the fact in the public eye for his own gain.

It's a lot more difficult to be redeemed when the wounded party is no longer alive, especially as a secondhand consequence of your actions. They want to live their lives on the internet in front of everyone and air their laundry 480 characters at a time? Let them be judged by the moral standards of every single person who happens to read their tweets.

 

[Trober]

So is RebelJam ever happening or what?

My entry would be a visual novel game where instead of trying to bang anime chicks you play as Zoe and drive people to suicide.

 

[Pargon]

My entry would be a visual novel game where instead of trying to bang anime chicks you play as Zoe and drive people to suicide.

Mine would be a social media simulator in which you play as someone dependent on maintaining public sympathy to keep pity donations flowing and you need to work desperately to quash or spin reports of your reprehensible behavior to keep opinion from turning against you.

I'd call it Suppression Quest.

 

[BlueSpark]

lol at the crappy suicide baiting framed as bravery, she's turning into Boogie.

 

[Punitive Castration]

My entry would be a visual novel game where instead of trying to bang anime chicks you play as Zoe and drive people to suicide.

It'd be like a two-part dating simulator. First, you convince a willing soyboy that it's ableist not to sleep with someone who has gonorrhea. Once you've ticked off a few kinky sex acts and blamed him for several of your bipolar meltdowns, it's time to get the kill.
Bonus points are tallied for timing it right when he's about to finish a project, or out of the country.

 

[Trober]

Another thought I just have is she keeps pushing the line about not asking for retribution or harassment so she's in the clear. But you think back to GJoni's zoe post where he specifically didn't ask for that either and in some cases was telling people to stop and it didn't matter if he asked. The mere existence of the post was his invitation to harass and attack according to her and all her friends. So since she's such a stalwart defender of equality shouldn't we treat her version of the Zoe post the same?

 

[Trober]

It'd be like a two-part dating simulator. First, you convince a willing soyboy that it's ableist not to sleep with someone who has gonorrhea. Once you've ticked off a few kinky sex acts and blamed him for several of your bipolar meltdowns, it's time to get the kill.
Bonus points are tallied for timing it right when he's about to finish a project, or out of the country.

Now' we're moving into like a Hitman style game where first you stalk the prey. Seduce them, Bleed them dry of all financial and social capital to add to your own pool so you can advance and then destroy them in the open while using the oppression ladder to give yourself deniability.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

Has Zoe Quinn finally been checkmated by her own indolence?

She still has a foot in the door of the indie gaming community, but she is not there on talent and eventually opportunities for this kind of work are likely to dry up.

As far as her own projects go, crowdfunding will be iffy, given the Chuck Tingle debacle. It is clear that she can neither manage a project, nor be trusted with large sums of money. We will likely never know how much of the $85,448 raised on Kickstarter, was used to bankroll her lifestyle and how much of it actually went into the game. If there was ever a pie chart that showed these relative figures, then Zoe probably ate it. The money raised for her Game Jam similarly vanished without trace (right into her personal PayPal if I recall correctly). The minority of backers who continue to doggedly post messages of support on the Chuck Tingle page are likely to lose faith if she begins another project without finishing the game first. Furthermore, I would imagine that there would be some degree of nervousness among Zoe's peers about working with her in the future, given the negligible benefits and her reputation for throwing her former affiliates under the bus.

She has wheedled her way into mainstream comics, but again she is not there on ability or sales. She has clearly been hired by editors within DC and Marvel because her presence within the industry upsets a certain demographic who these people deem undesirable as customers. The ground was crumbling underfoot in the mainstream comics long before Zoe began jumping up and down on it, and it cannot support her weight for very long.

A likely future where the big two publishers downsize significantly, resulting in a dwindling pool of employees and closer scrutiny on the bottom line, is not going to be a Zoe friendly environment. She could attempt to pivot into indie comics, perhaps with an eye to securing a Netflix deal, but I wonder whether she could raise the money to bankroll such a project, or summon the motivation to see it through. I think she might have missed the boat there anyway. The kind of storytelling that Zoe trades in is failing to connect with audiences and studios and production companies are waking up to this. At this point, her name alone is probably considered toxic to any brand that she associates with.

Further #Metoo accusations are likely to shift unwanted focus onto her past and a mounting pool of evidence that undermines her claims. She's cried wolf too many times, the last time with calamitous results. While her supporters in the media have invested too much in her harassment narrative to openly call her out, they no longer seem to be pushing her to the fore-front as a brave martyr who stood up to internet trolling . Whatever people are saying in public, behind the scenes I think there is an awareness of what Zoe is really about. Her current flailing on social media isn't really gaining the traction that it would have a few years ago.

In regards to her next move, my money is still on some kind of health scare (breast cancer?) followed-up, perhaps, by the establishment of an online support network that pulls in donations but delivers little, if anything, in return (the classic Zoe grift). It seems plausible given her despicable nature, plus it insulates her from criticism – you would have to be a villain to call out a cancer survivor.

Beyond that possibility, I don't see anywhere else she can go. She is past the point where she could have ensnared some wealthy sugar daddy. Russell Greer has shown no interest. She is several decades too old for Jonathan Yaniv, who probably wouldn't even ask to borrow one of her tampons.

Anita Sarkeesian can parlay her experience running Feminist Frequency into a some kind of bullshit position within a charity, a political think tank, or the human resources department of some gormless corporation. Brianna Wu has her husband to bankroll her demented and entertaining political ambitions. Even the loathsome Randi Harper had the good sense to walk away from the tables when the odds turned against her.

Zoe kept gambling and losing with other people's money and now it is running out.

 

[vertexwindi]

alright which one of you is it

 

[BlueSpark]

Now' we're moving into like a Hitman style game where first you stalk the prey. Seduce them, Bleed them dry of all financial and social capital to add to your own pool so you can advance and then destroy them in the open while using the oppression ladder to give yourself deniability.

Someone contact Yandere Dev: when he finishes Yandere Simulator in 30 years this can be his next project.

 

[Jack Torrance]

Just checked her twitter. Latest cute dog photo posted just has a wall of hundreds of comments all saying "ok murderer" and it is the funniest shit ever. This must be driving her insane. Not the driving a man to kill himself part, she doesn't give a shit about that, but that people are holding her accountable for her despicable actions while she cries and whines and flails about how she's the biggest victim. As one poster said, "is this bitch seriously trying to DARVO the whole internet?"

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

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Hypocrisy is play the victim after driving a man to suicide.

Which other victims of his is she even talking about?

We had:

1. That one chick who worked with him who alleged that he asked her out on a date while they were working together on a game. She alleged that he became a big meanie after she said no to him, treating her unfairly although he had been nice before. No evidence. Think she posted this one day after Zoe's story. Seemed pretty clear to me that she never tried and talked to Alec about this. I think she even said that she tried to reach Alec the same day, but he wouldn't respond fast enough, so she decided to go public (that might also have been Scott, idk.). This is the only story you could KINDA see as sexual harassment at the workplace, I guess. Kinda?
2. A group of people who worked with him on games before who all basically said the same thing: He's an asshole to work with, he's a perfectionist and expects everyone around him to work as much as he does and be perfect. That's neither illegal nor sexual misconduct. Also, he worked with troons. Nuff said.
3. Scott who accused him of, well, being an asshole and actually expecting Scott to fucking do his work. He also accused Alec of "suicide baiting", but that might've been an actual cry for help, as we now know. Too bad Alec didn't have a friend willing to listen to him.
4. His own sister who released a vague statement supporting Zoe's claims, only saying that Alec had mental health issues that we don't know about, so he might've been guilty. She backpedalled later, saying that he might not have been guilty of everything he was accused of. Too bad that came after his death. Last thing he saw from his sister was her alleging to the whole internet he might be guilty of a sex crime because of his mental health issues. Let that sink in.

Conclusion: Nobody else accused him of anything that even comes close to Zoe's story. Number one is the only thing that could kind of be seen as harassment at the workplace (I don't know US law that well) There are no other victims and Zoe is full of shit. This is not a Weinstein situation where more and more women come forward with similar stories. It's literally only her her kicking him in the face and then calling all of his friends and his sister to finish him off while he's lying on the ground bleeding. It was only her.