War Trump says U.S. will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists - Time for Mexico to get liberated


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said in an interview aired on Tuesday that he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists over their role in drug and human trafficking.

“They will be designated ... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process,” Trump said in an interview with conservative media personality Bill O’Reilly that aired on Tuesday.

Once a group is designated as a terrorist organization, under U.S. law it is illegal for people in the United States to knowingly offer support and its members cannot enter the country and may be deported. Financial institutions that become aware they have funds connected to the group must block the money and alert the U.S. Treasury Department.

Mexico’s government did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Mexico’s foreign minister, Marcelo Ebrard, said on Monday he did not expect the United States to make such a move.

Earlier this month, Trump, in a tweet, offered to help Mexico “wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth.”

The proposal came after nine Americans were killed in an ambush in northern Mexico.

Mexican authorities said they may have been victims of mistaken identity amid confrontations among drug gangs in the area.

But the LeBaron extended family, members of a breakaway Mormon community that settled in northern Mexico decades ago, has often been in conflict with drug traffickers in Chihuahua and victims’ relatives said the killers must have known who they were targeting.
 
Reuters: one of the few news sources out there that genuinely writes articles without too much bias.

Objectively, I don't see anything wrong with this. Those drug cartels are trigger-happy, psychopathic organizations that will stop at nothing to smuggle drugs in and out of the country just to increase their bottom line. Literally some Central American cities are run by corrupt, drug kingpins that terrorize innocents.

You know it's bad when certain areas are no-go lands for tourists because of the high crime rate. Mexico would be better off without them.
May as we try dismantling the entire Mexican government.
 
This will open up a whole can of worms though. If they are designated terrorist groups, does the defense authorization of 2001 apply to them? Beyond that though there is the more immediate issue that anyone doing business with the Cartels will be engaging in material support of terrorism. This is one of the few ways in which the flat ban on the CIA and NSA have towards directly targeting US citizens can be circumvented. US citizens involved with the Cartels who enter Mexico could also be targeted by the military.

Let's hope trump thinks this through....fully...uh oh
Anyone who supports the cartels in any capacity should be shot as traitors. Those animals are fucking vile and do nothing but wreak havoc.
While he's at it, Trump should just take Mexico. Not only would it give America some real estate, the border wall he'd have to build would get smaller and smaller as he travels south.
So you want all 100mill plus Mexicans to get automatic citizenship? Fucking galaxy brained.
 
So you want all 100mill plus Mexicans to get automatic citizenship? Fucking galaxy brained.
No, we deport them to South America. It's only fair when you think about it.

Or Canada, I'm sure they'd love to show the world how much more tolerant and caring they are then those evil racist Americans.
 
No, we deport them to South America. It's only fair when you think about it.

Or Canada, I'm sure they'd love to show the world how much more tolerant and caring they are then those evil racist Americans.

Patrick. Patrick.
Both of those solutions are just taking Bikini Bottom and pushing it somewhere else.
Honestly man, you need to think big. Don't worry about cracking open a few eggs, we're making an omelet.
 
While he's at it, Trump should just take Mexico. Not only would it give America some real estate, the border wall he'd have to build would get smaller and smaller as he travels south.
American Lebensraum. all the way down to retake the Panama Canal!

Patrick. Patrick.
Both of those solutions are just taking Bikini Bottom and pushing it somewhere else.
Honestly man, you need to think big. Don't worry about cracking open a few eggs, we're making an omelet.
Central Amercians will take care of them first, or Mexicans will solve that problem and arugably be a better people in that region than full-fledged Indio savages.
 
Everyone is assuming that this will be the shooting sort of war.

I think that it will be the information sort of war, where systems are infiltrated, finances are accounted for, and then all of their assets are seized at once, fucking their entire organization into the dirt.
 
Terrorists and drug cartels are both the target of useless "war on" legislation that, in practice, doesn't meaningfully combat their criminal networks. They're also both supported by clandestine alphabet agency funding, ensuring the U.S. government will never truly get rid of them until something more heinous (and profitable) comes up, which probably won't be in our lifetime.

This is meaningless posturing. The Middle East loves its terrorists, the Mexicans love their drug lords. Commit to shock and awe (complete with telling the rest of the world, who doesn't like the U.S. anyway, to fuck off) in order to scare them off, or don't even bother addressing it.
 
While he's at it, Trump should just take Mexico. Not only would it give America some real estate, the border wall he'd have to build would get smaller and smaller as he travels south.
Speaking of real estate, as it is, Mexico isn't particularly attractive. And it isn't rare to find an illiterate Mexican, either.
Terrorists and drug cartels are both the target of useless "war on" legislation that, in practice, doesn't meaningfully combat their criminal networks. They're also both supported by clandestine alphabet agency funding, ensuring the U.S. government will never truly get rid of them until something more heinous (and profitable) comes up, which probably won't be in our lifetime.

This is meaningless posturing. The Middle East loves its terrorists, the Mexicans love their drug lords. Commit to shock and awe (complete with telling the rest of the world, who doesn't like the U.S. anyway, to fuck off) in order to scare them off, or don't even bother addressing it.
At least with terrorists, there's an public vengeance angle going on. But you're essentially trying to decapitate an hydra at the rate things are going, like how ISIS appointed a new brainlet an while ago.
 
Tbh I've always thought that the best way to deal with cartels would be by using mercenaries against them.

  • They're willing to be just as violent as the cartels
  • The shit they do doesn't really reflect back to their employer politically
  • They're willing to engage in the same kind of dirty political back door deals cartels are, so it gives them more avenues to do lasting harm to the cartels
  • They like to hire locally, so home field advantage doesn't really apply against them in many cases
  • Killing them doesn't really "help" the cartels since the mercenary groups will use this in price negotiations later, which in the long run just leads to a better funded merc group
  • Similar to the ability to hire locals, merc groups have a knack for finding disenchanted former members whom are willing to dox their peers.
  • Defecting to the merc groups is tempting for cartel members because they can make more money, but still be "legitimate," since they can become "subject matter experts in organized crime."
 
Maybe Americans shouldnt be such filthy druggies and the cartels wouldnt have the money and power they have but how typical of Americans to not take responsibility for their own actions
That concept predicates that drug cartels only make money from drugs. The real truth is even without drugs they'd do anything to make their money. Slavery, drugs, sex trafficking. It has little to do with US. You act as if criminal cartels and gangs only exist because of funding/being given power. History shows that's far from the case.
 
This is meaningless posturing. The Middle East loves its terrorists, the Mexicans love their drug lords. Commit to shock and awe (complete with telling the rest of the world, who doesn't like the U.S. anyway, to fuck off) in order to scare them off, or don't even bother addressing it.

Yeah I call bullshit on Mexicans loving cartels. We hate them. It's true that some communities like cartels, becuase cartels givem them money .... but to say we all love having violence and crime of cartles is just idiotic and false.

While Sinaloa was fanboying over el chapo... everyone else was hiding their heads in shame.

Your average citizen DOES NOT like cartels.

That concept predicates that drug cartels only make money from drugs. The real truth is even without drugs they'd do anything to make their money. Slavery, drugs, sex trafficking. It has little to do with US. You act as if criminal cartels and gangs only exist because of funding/being given power. History shows that's far from the case.


I mean yeah they do other things now that they are huge, but to say they still would be big without drugs is incredibly naive. They get billions from drugs alone, and they are mainly DRUG cartels.

It would be like saying that slave traders also made money by selling stolen goods..
 
Yeah I call bullshit on Mexicans loving cartels. We hate them. It's true that some communities like cartels, becuase cartels givem them money .... but to say we all love having violence and crime of cartles is just idiotic and false.

While Sinaloa was fanboying over el chapo... everyone else was hiding their heads in shame.

Your average citizen DOES NOT like cartels.




I mean yeah they do other things now that they are huge, but to say they still would be big without drugs is incredibly naive. They get billions from drugs alone, and they are mainly DRUG cartels.
The concept you'er misunderstanding of my argument, isn't that drugs don't play majorly to their current money amount or power, the point I'm making is criminal gangs will exist with or without drugs. Drugs is just a quick method to obtaining both. Even if you removed drugs from existence, would this stop criminal gangs from forming and then gaining power over innocent victims/citizens? Would this stop sex traffickers in general or those who enslave others/ Look at Isis. Edit Did drugs make them what they were?
 
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