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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.
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Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
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Chloe Westley:

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Significant improvement on the acid attack victim that is Carrie Symonds. Might be an idea for Cazza and Dilyn not to get too comfy in the offishul accommodation.
 
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Has anyone got any leaflets yet?

I received my first today, Labour are clearly feeling optimistic...
 
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Could be worse:

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You know the old joke about hardcore environmentalists and watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside. The UK Green party is particularly bad at this since they're extremely anti-nuclear despite that being the best viable replacement for fossil fuels and widely used in France without many issues.
 
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Didn't a similar thing happen in America when people were told things they agree with were said by someone else, but were actually said by Trump?
 
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It's pretty common to get people you want to mock to agree with stuff Hitler said in Mein Kampf.
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The best trolling of that sort I’ve seen is this:
JNS.org – The world of academia has been riveted by the full account of an elaborate hoax that resulted in several high-profile academic journals publishing articles based on ludicrous notions and fake field research, but couched in the language of social justice and identity politics.

The hoax was the brainchild of three academics — editor and writer Helen Pluckrose, mathematician James Lindsay, and philosopher Peter Boghossian — none of whom are likely to receive “A” list university posts now that they have performed this valuable service. Over a period of about a year, the three of them concocted 20 hoax papers relating to themes like identity, sexuality, body shape, and the significance of “intersectional” struggles. By the time they called a halt to the project, seven of these hoaxes had been published in various academic journals, essentially confirming their initial suspicion that, as long as it is in the proper political packaging, there are plenty of journal editors out there receptive to any old garbage.

One paper about “rape culture” in dog parks in Portland, Oregon received a special citation from the journal that published it. Another paper, on how “masculinist and Western bias” in the science of astronomy “can best be corrected by including feminist, queer, and indigenous astrology,” was enthusiastically received by academic reviewers with a request for only minor revisions. Most spectacularly, the feminist social-work journal Affilia published a hoax paper titled “Our Struggle Is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice Feminism” that was composed of passages lifted from Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf with, in the words of the three hoaxers, “fashionable buzzwords switched in.”
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The best trolling of that sort I’ve seen is this:
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This is why one should actually be familiar with the writing and thinking of the Nazis. If your own way of thinking is so similar that you can drop Mein Kampf right into a supposedly peer reviewed journal about your philosophy, quite possibly, YOU ARE THE BADDIES.
 
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I don't really know how that sort of thing rocks the academic world. It's been known for literally decades.

I have heard stories of foreign graduate students with different values (such as one from Hong Kong who is likely highly aligned with the protests now) being told to parrot the likely leftist politics of the journal editors by their advisors to increase their chances of being published.
 
CWCissey said:
Has anyone got any leaflets yet?

I received my first today, Labour are clearly feeling optimistic...
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Very few. Only had one from Tory, one Brexit party and two Labour. Also had conservative door knockers last week for the first time ever. I’m not sure what it is about where I live but we barely get any material.
So long as we don’t get some labour fuck knocking on our door at half eight on election night asking if we voted again.
 
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Has anyone got any leaflets yet?

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The usual suspects, SNP, Labour. Working class area, so not too surprised the Tories have steered away, no point wasting effort in that regard.
 
Safe Tory seat. I had the leaflet from the sitting Tory MP and I'll probably vote for her because she's pretty solid on most things and never bent the knee to May's "deal." No other leaflets.

However, in [town] where I work there's a stretch of houses which are being rather optimistic with their support for the Lib Dems. One has a diamond orange "Winning Here" in every pane of every window, and another has a clutch of them interspersed with EU flags. I suspect the people who inhabit these are likely to be literally shaking on social media if there is to be a Tory majority and/or we leave the EU on January 30, 2020.
 
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LibDems are putting out an insane amount of leaflets and letters in constituencies they think they have a chance in. Given that spending is supposed to be capped, and that cap is per constituency rather than nationally, I have to wonder just how much money they have. And who has given it to them.
 
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