The Great Porn Debate - The Coomites vs Anti-Faparians

[Lemmingwise]

^That’s hardly unique to Jews, look up Mormon investment in Las Vegas casinos

I didn't say double standards on what they inflict on others compared to what they want for themselves is unique to jews. In fact, I gave a specific example for another group that did something similar. Seems like a strange knee-jerk defense, tbqh.

 

[WeeMars]

Porn is essentially a drug. Not even essentially, IT IS a drug. It has all the same characteristics as one.
It degrades your mind, it degrades your body, it affects the way you think, it throws you down into a degenerative state.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

I didn't say double standards on what they inflict on others compared to what they want for themselves is unique to jews. In fact, I gave a specific example for another group that did something similar. Seems like a strange knee-jerk defense, tbqh.

Meh I was just throwing out some trivia (although once again a deep thoughts thread has turned into a Jew thread, everybody drink!)

I’ll respond more in depth to your post when I get home

 

[HeyYou]

>i only hold the most milquetoast and inoffensive views because it gives me a smug sense of superiority to point out how everyone is wrong
Spoken like a true Sargonian.

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Slate only. No clayfags allowed. Rope tossers get the rope. Horseshoe niggers are first against the wall.

Sounds like horseshoe theory fucked your wife, bro.

 

[break these cuffs]

Sounds like horseshoe theory fucked your wife, bro.

Horseshoes are shit. Quoit revolution now!

 

[WuTangClan2299]

Porn is essentially a drug. Not even essentially, IT IS a drug. It has all the same characteristics as one.
It degrades your mind, it degrades your body, it affects the way you think, it throws you down into a degenerative state.

You can literally replace the word "porn" with "video games" and that whole paragraph would not change.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I think people should be cautious with porn, because it can be addictive.

But I also think it depends on what kind of porn you're talking about, there's the silicon infused Brazzers type porn and then there's the classier stuff featuring people in actual relationships with natural bodies, stuff that's no less graphic but is still a more "wholesome" take on the idea and I think that's better because it doesn't create as unrealistic expectations.

And honestly the Brazzers type stuff doesn't do much for me anyway, I just find it kinda gross, the classier stuff is more of a turn on for me.

But like with alcohol or food or anything really, all things should be tempered with moderation, anything can be taken too far, but there's also no harm in blowing off some steam once in a while.

 

[Iriya Asagao]

my only concern with porn is how accessible it is for minors to watch them

 

[Billy "the Bot" Bobson]

You can literally replace the word "porn" with "video games" and that whole paragraph would not change.

While I think he's being a bit hyperbolic, video games can be understood or classified as gambling in the way it affects your brain.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

Hentai>Pornographic films

 

[Monolith]

Porn should be banned, unless it happens to fit my bizarrely specific fetish.

 

[SpergPatrol]

We've always had junk food, not comparable to digital pornography. But I do think we should tax it heavily and start to stigmatize people eating it like we do with smokers now.


The situation with porn today is more comparable to the mural, as porn is aggressively displayed and pushed wherever possible. It's not a private thing.

That is not true and the places that do in foreign countries that limit sizes of drink, etc does not stop or has helped to lower the obesity rate.

Smokers being regulated has not reduced the numbers for smokers, the reason smoking gone down is due to culture changing it's attitude about it. Enforcing regulation on anything does not stop jack shit unless the mindset behind it changes along with it.

It is the same process that you can find in people wondering why when you are fat if you staple your stomach you can still gain the weight back, it is because if your mentally have not changed your eating habits or behaviors you will find the means to do those habits regardless of cost or risk.

This is a proven mental effect and if society view on sex is very obsessive making some rules won't stop the consumption of it just like the 18+ shit does not stop children from viewing the content.
In fact probably promote it more due to if it is an addiction for some they will just invent ways to circumvent it, and for others causes reverse psychology making them even more curious then they would be before to look at it.

Sometimes the easiest solutions are the best ones of "you're 11 year old kid does not need a smartphone/any phone that accesses the internet," seriously if they need an emergency phone literally any phone with a charge can call 9/11.

You can buy a stupid track phone and you can have website blockers to prevent your kid while doing homework from accessing any site outside of the ones you approve of and watch them as they do it now.
We have so many means to monitor kids at this point you are literally incompetent as a parent if you want the government to regulate it at this point.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

The implication here(don't buy your kids a phone, don't let them eat McDonald's every day) is that children born to shitty parents are totally fucked. Which in turn creates a vicious cycle where the kids go on to become shitty parents themselves and create offspring that are even more fucked.

No, they're not totally fucked. People are capable of transcending their upbringing, otherwise we'd all be stuck in the stone age; progress is one of the things that makes us human.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

No, they're not totally fucked. People are capable of transcending their upbringing, otherwise we'd all be stuck in the stone age; progress is one of the things that makes us human.

Yeah, our birth doesn't determine everything.

My parents are hard-working, industrious, successful people and I shitpost on Kiwifarms

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Meh I was just throwing out some trivia (although once again a deep thoughts thread has turned into a Jew thread, everybody drink!)

I’ll respond more in depth to your post when I get home

Mormons honestly have quite a few things in common with Jews.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

I honestly would be fine with porn being regulated so that kids don't have as much access to it. It might be a typical "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS" argument, but the average age people start watching porn is around the age 11, which is not exactly what I would call a healthy age to watch this shit since it will fuck up your views of the opposite sex and how you interact with them (mostly boys with girls, but it will have an effect on young girls and their relationship with boys). This is a crucial time in terms of just one's sexual development and puberty going on around this age, and if you get all your ideas about sexuality from porn, you probably won't become a rapist but there will be massive sexual dysfunction later on in life and I think we're living in the end result of that. While I definitely have a problem with porn on the whole from a religious standpoint, I really just want to address the ubiquitous availability of it more than anything right now. In the past, porn existed but you had to go to the porn shop or to the skeevy section of a store to find it (or maybe the woods or behind your dad's cabinet). Now, you can just pull up your smartphone and look at it on the go. I don't even care so much about amateur stuff because that always will exist. It's the professional stuff that is actively making a profit pretty much destroying the lives of their actors and actresses along with those of the kids watching it. I think we need to do something about it now, because things will only get worse for society if this problem isn't addressed now.

 

[queerape]

Porn is like cannabis: it's all fine and good if you use it as an adult and your brain has mostly stopped developing very fast. but it can fuck you up for life if you use it during a critical period during your teens.

 

[ApatheticViewer]

Is anyone under 30 actually for this garbage? "No prostitution and we should ban all porn and women shouldn't dress in slutty clothes"

No! Fuck you! I want to turn on channel 9 and see 2 lesbians eating each other out. I want hardcore sex in family comedys. Fuck this puritanical shit.

Woah man. Cool it on the Cheese Pizza @ProgKing of the North

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

Ok, say we ban porn. Would drawn stuff count? Think about it. To my knowledge a drawing, barring absurd circumstances such as that guy who traced actual CP, doesn’t harm anyone in its production. An artist is just putting what’s in their brain onto the page, no ones actually selling their body. I’d say drawn porn is more ‘morally correct’ than live action porn, but likely still unhealthy. Would it be worth banning?
And how would you enforce that anyways? Could a guy be busted for having some salacious sketches in his notebook, or some nudes his GF gave him? What would the punishment be? If porn is to be banned these questions must be considered.
Personally, I’m against banning porn. But then again, I’m also for legalizing a good amount of drugs, moonshining for personal use, and other such nonsense. I generally don’t like it when a governing body decides to do something ‘for you’re own good’, I like personal agency and responsibility. And as for the argument about kids seeing porn, other peoples kids aren’t really my problem. The guardians are the ones who should be keeping an eye on them.
So, overall, watch hentai, do drugs, forget about the kids, and the US government should be worried about fixing the potholes before trying to scrub the Internet of titties.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Meh I was just throwing out some trivia (although once again a deep thoughts thread has turned into a Jew thread, everybody drink!)

I’ll respond more in depth to your post when I get home

I did like the mormon info to be honest. Isn't there something similar going on with native americans or did the simpsons bamboozle me?

Ok, say we ban porn. Would drawn stuff count? Think about it. To my knowledge a drawing, barring absurd circumstances such as that guy who traced actual CP, doesn’t harm anyone in its production.

It's not just the harm of the production that is the issue, it is also the ubiquity and the harm of the usage. With that said...

I think there is a huge chasm between damage caused by the endless parade of HD incest / violent / racemixing porn and drawn porn, even such things as shadman. Although both can have deleterious effects, the latter is vastly less potent.

Further of course anyone that thinks they can ban porn completely is highly highly optimistic.

Pirating copyrighted material is also banned, yet not that hard to acquire. Though to say that the efforts to put restraints on it were completely fruitless is also false.

As for your question on enforcement, I think there is (and should be) a difference from taking a pic and sharing it with your partner or taking one and sharing it with the world. Although on the other hand, the number of guys who freely (and without asking) have shared pictures of their girlfriends or ex girlfriends with me, also makes me ask if there really is a difference.

plenty more that don’t consider being paid to fuck on camera any more degrading than any other type of wageslaving, and who are you to tell them they're wrong?

9 times out of 10 if you talk to them 10 years later they agree. So they themselves say that they're wrong. No that's not an actual stat, but pulled out of my ass, but it's not an uncommon phenomenon.

Porn production is generally a young people game, but the negative effects (particularly of production) can be felt for a significantly longer time.