Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[The handsome tard]

They did that in "The Expanse" and she's fucking awesome.

Maybe I will finally get off my lazy ass and watch the expanse...

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I think I'm gonna go on eBay and look for some cheap copies of the old Thrawn trilogy. The original versions, not the ones with the new covers that say "Legends" across the top.

I haven't read those books in years and I think they'd look nice sitting on my shelf next to Episodes I-VI, completing the saga.

 

[Reverend]

Maybe I will finally get off my lazy ass and watch the expanse...

Chrisjen Avasarala is how you write a strong, powerful, woman, in charge with FLAWS THE SIZE OF PLANETS.

Worship her you motherfucker, you'll fucking love it.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

@3:40 "Palpatine is back and the only way the Resistance can defeat him is by impeaching him in the House, and convicting him in the Senate"

Do these people ever realize how insufferable any political preaching, from any side, through entertainment is?

 

[Creep3r]

>When the liver gives out

 

[Shield Breaker]

I think I'm gonna go on eBay and look for some cheap copies of the old Thrawn trilogy. The original versions, not the ones with the new covers that say "Legends" across the top.

I haven't read those books in years and I think they'd look nice sitting on my shelf next to Episodes I-VI, completing the saga.

You can buy the set on amazon for $30, including shipping.

 

[Xulphis]

That's their stale excuse for why that isn't the case. The truth is they just don't actually care about the story and intend to churn out the idea that they want without any regard for logic or consistency with the preceding film let alone the universe.

Hollywood and the various corps have fleets of people who are paid to cast a thick cloud of obfuscating verbal haze at anyone who starts looking at these works with a critical eye. It saves the directors effort and time that could be spent doing whatever else they'd prefer. Like smashing their genitals with a coconut.

The saddest part being that the smallest, tiniest bit of effort could go a long way to smoothing out the rough edges and turning a shit story into an okay one at the very least. Just. Bring in people who give a shit or have fact checkers/lore masters and then listen to them and for god's sake respect the IP being written for. I know that's a revolutionary, never before suggested concept but jeez. I also know that's not likely to happen in any way shape or form due to the overwhelming number of soulless corporate automatons whose only purpose is to hoover money from consumers' pockets.

All these stories lately just give off the definite vibe of what someone who's never read/watched a single story themselves thinks that's what a story is. Y'know, the quintessential distilled up-one's-own-ass sense of over-inflated "I've never seen a book before in my life but my writing will be pure gold."

And all that matters in this depressing bleak world we live in is the opportunity to slam dunk established franchises with rich, crafted lore directly into a pit while making uncomfortable prolonged eye contact with a disheartened fan.

>When your liver just can't take it anymore
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RIP in peace brave soldier. We barely knew ye.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Maybe I will finally get off my lazy ass and watch the expanse...

The expanse is self aware and is one of the few pop culture shows that does a good job with strong females. For example, the Martian Marine isnt strong cuz wamyn, she is strong because she is highly trained. And her training is actually shown. She also cant just go into a fight 6 foot 4 men with guns and expect to win. One episode required her to get her power armor before she could fight the dudes. She has realistic limitations.

The Secretary General on the other hand is what Kathleen Kennedy wished Holdo could have been. A hard ass bitch who knows she has to be a hard ass bitch to get her way in a world where weakness means failure. But the show also very smartly shows it's just a mask she uses and spends time to show her maternal interactions with her children and husband. Oh, and she is also not an incompetent who treats her subordinates like shit.

The show also doesnt treat the men like garbage either. You can tell they are still trying to check the diversity boxes but they do it smart enough that you dont care

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

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Y'know, this image, hilarious as it is, brings up a potentially huge plothole in this film, that I've yet to see the leaks address.

So, like, in Dark Empire, Sidious dies. He dies a lot, in fact. The problem is he's so powerful in the Dark Side that he can essence transfer spam. The ghosts of every Jedi from the past had to force him to stay in the grave.

Since, apparently, Sidious can do that in this film, and is so powerful in the Dark Side that his voice can be heard across the galaxy, what's to stop him from just hopping into some clone body he hid somewhere in Tatooine for whatever reason? All Rey does is redirect lightning back at him. She doesn't kill his spirit, unless I'm really missing something. What's to stop Sidious from coming back again?

So Jar Jar wrote himself into a corner he couldn't think a proper solution for (believable), or Disney left this door open so they can do the same thing... again, if they're desperate for memberberries (also believable).

 

[XtrmGamr719]

Yo I'm talking to someone about what's happening in the movie, can I get the leaks and everything so I can make a doc to share to them?

 

[Agarathium1066]

The saddest part being that the smallest, tiniest bit of effort could go a long way to smoothing out the rough edges and turning a shit story into an okay one at the very least. Just. Bring in people who give a shit or have fact checkers/lore masters and then listen to them and for god's sake respect the IP being written for. I know that's a revolutionary, never before suggested concept but jeez. I also know that's not likely to happen in any way shape or form due to the overwhelming number of soulless corporate automatons whose only purpose is to hoover money from consumers' pockets.

All these stories lately just give off the definite vibe of what someone who's never read/watched a single story themselves thinks that's what a story is. Y'know, the quintessential distilled up-one's-own-ass sense of over-inflated "I've never seen a book before in my life but my writing will be pure gold."

The terrible thing is I don't believe that this desire to just do their own thing and fuck the fans, sense, and general rules of good story telling is a new issue. It's just directors, writers, and various head-up-assers getting too proud because enough people like the pew-pew and wooshy-zwoops of lightsabers to care how atrocious the product their putting out is.

There are a lot of people who would and could do exactly this to help improve the storyline. Perhaps when Disney inevitably relaunches a fresh trilogy to squeeze the another bucket of cash from the teet of Star Wars they will do better.

Perhaps I'll also grow another foot, find a gold bar in my pocket, and then be invited to a tea party on the moon too.

 

[Creep3r]

Y'know, this image, hilarious as it is, brings up a potentially huge plothole in this film, that I've yet to see the leaks address.

So, like, in Dark Empire, Sidious dies. He dies a lot, in fact. The problem is he's so powerful in the Dark Side that he can essence transfer spam. The ghosts of every Jedi from the past had to force him to stay in the grave.

Since, apparently, Sidious can do that in this film, and is so powerful in the Dark Side that his voice can be heard across the galaxy, what's to stop him from just hopping into some clone body he hid somewhere in Tatooine for whatever reason? All Rey does is redirect lightning back at him. She doesn't kill his spirit, unless I'm really missing something. What's to stop Sidious from coming back again?

So Jar Jar wrote himself into a corner he couldn't think a proper solution for (believable), or Disney left this door open so they can do the same thing... again, if they're desperate for memberberries (also believable).

Disney is going to keep m;lking Palpatine forever now... There's no stopping this train of madness.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

@3:40 "Palpatine is back and the only way the Resistance can defeat him is by impeaching him in the House, and convicting him in the Senate"

But how can they, don’t they know that he is the Senate!

 

[JongleJingle]

Y'know, this image, hilarious as it is, brings up a potentially huge plothole in this film, that I've yet to see the leaks address.

So, like, in Dark Empire, Sidious dies. He dies a lot, in fact. The problem is he's so powerful in the Dark Side that he can essence transfer spam. The ghosts of every Jedi from the past had to force him to stay in the grave.

Since, apparently, Sidious can do that in this film, and is so powerful in the Dark Side that his voice can be heard across the galaxy, what's to stop him from just hopping into some clone body he hid somewhere in Tatooine for whatever reason? All Rey does is redirect lightning back at him. She doesn't kill his spirit, unless I'm really missing something. What's to stop Sidious from coming back again?

So Jar Jar wrote himself into a corner he couldn't think a proper solution for (believable), or Disney left this door open so they can do the same thing... again, if they're desperate for memberberries (also believable).

Again, the plot makes it CLEAR that Palpy won this. Literally EVERYTHING the protags did was all for nothing, because Palpy can just switch bodies without abandon.

The movie makes it seem victory has been achieved, when in reality Palps new order has only just begun.

Granted, if Palpatines actor actually does his lines and stuff real good, I won't mind if he rules the galaxy once more. Rey and her diversity hires don't deserve a happy ending.

 

[Xulphis]

The terrible thing is I don't believe that this desire to just do their own thing and fuck the fans, sense, and general rules of good story telling is a new issue. It's just directors, writers, and various head-up-assers getting too proud because enough people like the pew-pew and wooshy-zwoops of lightsabers to care how atrocious the product their putting out is.

There are a lot of people who would and could do exactly this to help improve the storyline. Perhaps when Disney inevitably relaunches a fresh trilogy to squeeze the another bucket of cash from the teet of Star Wars they will do better.

Perhaps I'll also grow another foot, find a gold bar in my pocket, and then be invited to a tea party on the moon too.

Oh absolutely. And to be fair, I like the pew-pew and the wooshy-zwoops and the cool ships because I am a simple person with simple tastes. But also, maybe, just maybe story is really fuckin' nice to have, as are all the other little bits and bobs which come together to make a cohesive finished product. Those pew-pews and wooshy-zwoops matter more when nestled into the proper places within the overall story, and matter less when, as in nu-Wars, they're overabundant and sloppily, lazily slapped in front of the audience as a jangly baby's toy only good for being bright, loud, and shiny to appease their target mouthbreather demographic.

In all honesty TFA tricked me with its flashiness and explosions and nostalgia-bait music but after ruminating on it, I realized it was shallow as hell and declined going to see the rest. We used to have actual popcorn flicks to serve that purpose but now everything is bloated with the same boring mess. I'd like to be optimistic that things may change in the future when the mouse is in need of those last SW bucks but you won't catch me holding my breath over it.

if you grow that extra foot hmu and share your secrets i need the help

 

[Ghostse]

They also jumped the shark during that final season. Should have ended it with the liberation of earth. Besides, the whole thing stands on its own. It really does not need a reboot. If someone tries, we should probably greet them with gunports open as a sign of respect.

That was the original plan, more or less. Season 5 was supposed to be the war for earth the aftermath; season 4 was supposed to finish with the end of the shadow war as seen in Into the Fire, with Sheridan making moves to support rebel forces in Earth spaces through out the season.

But after season 3, JMS barely got a 4th season wasn't sure he'd get a season 5, and wanted to give fans closure. So he drastically shortened the Shadow War so the war for earth could be told & concluded. Which meant when got the 5th season funded, he was left with a lot of space. Season 5 was the last quarter to to half of the planned 5th season stretched out, which is why its pacing is so off, and you have some nearly nonsense shit like the Shadow Followers fucking with the Centauri/the Narn-Dazi operations fleet being able to strike the Centauri (despite the Narn fleet having been reduced to less than a dozen ships less than two years before, their homeworld asteroid striked, cities in ruins, and millions-to-billions purged by Centauri occupation; and the Drazi ships being shown to be vastly inferior to the Centauri)

I remember reading the rights belong to the creator and he already stated it will never be rebooted.

He owns the rights, WB owns the TV distribution rights, and he is completely pissed off and jaded by Hollywood.
JMS has said he'd be open to doing movies/series set in the B5 universe - which WB has refused to sell the TV distruvtion rights - but would not do a reboot. Its hard to blame him, he had an excellect cast who meshed well.

JMS is also very jaded due the deal he had to cut to get B5 out on DVD; he had to take a deal that gave him a percentage of the net and not the gross, so WB would send him letters instead of checks explaining that DVD sales had been used as collateral in a loan for a movie that was stuck in production hell, and due to this the DVDs had made no net money.
(see my earlier posts about Hollywood account)
He knew that was going to happen, but agreed anyway because he wanted the fans to be able to get the series on DVD.


There are many things I dislike about JMS, there are many points I disagree with him on, but nigga is a proper nerd who cares about his creations and wants to do right by the fans and not simply view them as walking ATMs, so he gets my respect.

 

[Polyboros2]

We know the Spider Oracle exists but she is seemingly no longer in the movie judging from the plot leak which means her shit was maybe cut during the reshoots.

What I'm implying is that everything, even the most absurd ridiculous ones, are true and just cut in my mind, if that exceptional spider oracle on a giant swamp baby was legit at one point.

 

[Gehenna]

What I'm implying is that everything, even the most absurd ridiculous ones, are true and just cut in my mind, if that exceptional spider oracle on a giant swamp baby was legit at one point.

This is why I can't discount all of what Doomcock said. The majority of his stuff dealt with reshoots that went terribly, so its hard to say if it never existed or if it existed and was ripped out of the designed-by-comittee movie.

 

[Agarathium1066]

Oh absolutely. And to be fair, I like the pew-pew and the wooshy-zwoops and the cool ships because I am a simple person with simple tastes. But also, maybe, just maybe story is really fuckin' nice to have, as are all the other little bits and bobs which come together to make a cohesive finished product. Those pew-pews and wooshy-zwoops matter more when nestled into the proper places within the overall story, and matter less when, as in nu-Wars, they're overabundant and sloppily, lazily slapped in front of the audience as a jangly baby's toy only good for being bright, loud, and shiny to appease their target mouthbreather demographic.

In all honesty TFA tricked me with its flashiness and explosions and nostalgia-bait music but after ruminating on it, I realized it was shallow as hell and declined going to see the rest. We used to have actual popcorn flicks to serve that purpose but now everything is bloated with the same boring mess. I'd like to be optimistic that things may change in the future when the mouse is in need of those last SW bucks but you won't catch me holding my breath over it.

if you grow that extra foot hmu and share your secrets i need the help

I don't know if I'd say TFA really tricked you or myself either, I enjoyed it though I also felt it was incredibly samey and predictable. I didn't like how they were setting up Rey and how it felt like a Tru-Value retelling of ANH, yet it felt like Star Wars enough to me that it put a smile on my face. It even made the person I went to the theater with, who'd never taken a single bit of interest in the universe, give many games like KOTOR I/II a try.

So I guess I'd say I too love me some wooshy-zwoops too, as critical as I can be.

..Also no worries bb I'll let you know how to score that extra foot. Stilts.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

This whole thing has been a messy ride lol