Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[Army Burger]

What do you call a genderspecial when addressing them formally if you can't use "sir" or "ma'am"?

The proper term is faggot

 

[thejackal]

Alright going to do a deep dive on this new article from Your Fat Friend (you ain't my friend bish).

Spoiler

I've long loved movies that were based on a true story. I often spend weekday afternoons in the bluish glow of a matinee, watching thrillers that are ripped from the headlines, biopics, and historical dramas. The ritual of it is comforting: picking out seats, ordering drinks, tenting my knees between the seat and the metal bar in front of it. I drink in so many strangers’ stories to glean what I can learn, and to deepen my empathy and understanding. It’s an exercise in building my own humanity, and learning to see it more clearly in those around me.

Bish you're at a fucking matinee. Building humanity? You're mindlessly eating and drinking 1000 calories watching a matinee.

The last year felt like a particularly promising one when it came to movies inspired by real events — particularly real events centered around real fat people. I was looking forward to The Best of Enemies, a movie about real-life civil rights organizer Ann Atwater and Klan member CP Ellis. But as promotional materials rolled out, I grew crestfallen, seeing Taraji P. Henson in a fat suit, and still so much thinner than the real Atwater. Ellis, too, had been dramatically slimmed down, recast as the wiry Sam Rockwell.

But The Best of Enemies wasn’t alone in casting thin actors as real-life fat people. Hulu’s The Act cast Patricia Arquette as a decidedly thinner Dee Dee Blanchard, the murdered mother of her Munchausen proxy, Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Darkest Hour portrayed the famously fat Winston Churchill as Gary Oldman in a fat suit, bald cap, and a series of prosthetics. Stan and Ollie told the story of the legendary comedy duo Laurel and Hardy, featuring John C. Reilly in a fat suit. Christian Bale famously gained weight to play Dick Cheney in last winter’s Vice.

Fat activists LOATHE actors that can add and lose weight depending on the role. It disproves most of their stupid ass rhetoric about "set points" and "destroying your metabolism".

Rub and Tug gained media attention in 2019 as Scarlett Johansson, a cisgender woman, announced her plan to play a trans man. The outcry against Johansson’s casting was swift and decisive, as well it should’ve been, leading Johansson to abandon the role. But few mentioned that the subject of Rub and Tug, Tex Gill, was fat, and Johansson is a lifelong thin woman.

Most recently, Jay Roach’s Bombshell cast John Lithgow as Roger Ailes. In press for the film, Lithgow recounted his experience wearing a fat suit for the role. “If you look very closely, halfway through the shooting we decided that he really needed man boobs. We said, it depends on his mood, in some scenes he has man boobs and in some scenes he doesn’t.” (Russell Crowe also played Ailes in this year’s The Loudest Voice in the Room, and also donned a fat suit for the role.)

Judgment of Ailes’ fatness runs throughout the film itself, too, frequently showing the executive stacking up donuts from craft services, hunched over a sandwich in a crumpled wrapper, forever eating. When confronted with his decades of sexual harassment, Lithgow’s Ailes insists he didn’t always “have to” harass women because he “didn’t always look this way.” As if his very fatness pushed him to demand sex as a condition of employment from the women who worked for him.

Christ, not everything in media centers around Fat Activism or political statements about fatness. It was just Lithgow's Roger Ailes making a bad, self-deprecating excuse for being a creepy boss. It has no other inherent meaning.

Just one true story cast a fat actor as its fat lead. Paul Walter Hauser plays the titular character in Richard Jewell, playing the complex, perplexing security guard wrongly accused of planting the bomb he discovered at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.

Seven real-life fat stories, and just one fat actor.

Nobody would describe these as "fat stories" except someone that has no other tool to view the world. They are just stories.

The stories of Dee Dee Blanchard, Winston Churchill, Ann Atwater, CP Ellis, Tex Gill, Richard Jewell and Roger Ailes aren’t fictional. They aren’t imagined worlds or imagined people, and neither are their bodies. They were real live fat people. Their faces and bodies are documented, a recorded reality of their lives. But in every case, these fat people were played by thin actors who stepped into cartoonish fat suits, or simply recast their stories as thin ones, erasing the bodies that brought them to us. Despite the sharp dissonance between the real fat people so many of us recognize and the familiar thin actors who play them, most audiences still unquestioningly accept that thin people will play fat roles.

I'll repeat when I just said: nobody views these stories as "fat stories" except essayists that can't deconstruct anything else.

As I write this, 70% of Americans are fat, but just 2% of media images of women include plus size bodies, and film and TV remain decidedly out of step. Even when less-thin actors are cast, many are “Hollywood fat” — at the lowest end of the plus size spectrum, or the higher end of straight sizes.

Fat actors have long discussed the limited roles, minor and mocking available to them. James Corden has spoken out about Hollywood’s limited imaginations for fat roles. “If you are chubby, or fat, or big, you never fall in love. You never have sex. Certainly no one ever really finds you attractive. You’ll be good friends with people who are attractive, and you’ll often be a really great sense of comfort to them.”

sure on screen, but didn't you just read: 70% of Americans are fat. Fats are the majority. if you're an actor, maybe if you want more roles you should a) create a studio, fund a project, and market the shit out of it or you can b) lose weight. Your choice.

Orange is the New Black’s Joel Garland Marsh, too, has shared his experience. “You’d get a casting breakdown where the whole joke was just about being a fat guy — like ‘Fat Guy in a Chimney,’” he says. Veteran character actor Adrian Martinez echoed his sentiments. “I’m not going to sit in a vat of mayonnaise and be a fat joke from beginning to middle to end. There has to be something in there that you can hang your creative hat on.” In order to make ends meet, too many fat actors have to sacrifice their dignity, making themselves the butt of cruel jokes. Said Community’s Charley Koontz, “there have been a couple of parts — without naming shows — that you read and go, this is just so gratuitous, mean, and ugly.”

Work is often demeaning and people have to do it for a paycheck. More at 11. This is not exclusive to fat people. In fact, it's universal. There isn't a single worker in the world at any gig that hasn't felt demeaned on the job.

There are plenty of fat actors looking for work, ready to prove their mettle. Like Corden, Marsh, Martinez and Koontz, those actors are offered extremely limited fictional roles, but they’re also shut out of portraying people who look like them, in stories about people who are like them. Fat stories are few and far between to begin with, and on the rare occasion that they’re told, too often that small handful of roles go to thin leads.

Fat isn't a race. It's not a nationality. You aren't born fat and it's not an identity to most people that aren't batshit insane and invested in making their gluttony their entire ID.

In a time when audiences readily demand better, more nuanced performances from actors who personally connect with the identities and life experiences of their characters, fat suit performances and thinwashing remain unchanged, stubbornly intransigent even as the industry slowly shifts its focus. When thin actors are cast in fat roles (often with thin directors and writers at the helm), the absence of real fat people paves the way for insensitive fat jokes, oversimplifications and mischaracterizations of fat people’s lives. And we all lose out on a new wave of talent from actors too readily pushed aside.

Some may say that acting is a meritocracy, that talent rules the day, and that the best actor gets the job. But if that were the case, fat actors would be cast more than a sliver of the time, and thin bodies wouldn’t make up 98% of those we’re permitted to see. Casting directors would recognize the nuance and personal connections that are best provided by people who’ve lived the realities their characters face. The gap between fat Americans and fat actors’ screen time isn’t a matter of meritocracy — it’s a matter of bias. (As a bonus, increased exposure to fat bodies increases body satisfaction and psychological health for women of all sizes.)

Actors and performers and models are fundamentally aspirational. Most people watch movies and television knowing full well it's not real life. People aren't that thin. They aren't that good looking. That is the point! It's fantasy. Again, if you think you can make money by creating a studio based on fat people and sell it, do it! See how many fat people want to watch other fat people remind them of how ugly and fat they are on screen.

Others may say that looks sell, that audiences are accustomed to seeing thin people, and thin actors will more reliably bolster a film’s per screen average. But if that were true, Melissa McCarthy wouldn’t be one of the industry’s most bankable movie stars, churning out a stream of movies that have opened at number one at the box office. Fat people can and do sell, and studios reap the rewards.

That "stream" was more like a brief supernova of fame and she was not the lead actress in any of the highest grossing films. Her most successful film was Bridesmaids almost a decade ago and she was a supporting actress. Her most recent lead role was "Life of the Party" a film she wrote and produced. It netted a 46 metacritic score, 38% on rotten tomatoes and banked 61 million worldwide after costing roughly 30 million to produce. So a 35 million dollar net for one of Hollywood's most "bankable stars". That's chump change.

Despite our numerical majority, despite our proven profitability, despite our talent and tenacity, only one in every fifty bodies shown on screen is a fat person’s. At a time when so many of us are revisiting our expectations of media representation, it’s time to take a hard look not just at productions’ use of fat suits, but at the ubiquitous and dubious practice of casting thin actors in fat roles.

But casting thin people in fat roles reinforces so many of the cultural myths we’ve been taught about fatness and fat people. It delivers the transformation narrative that Americans have come to crave. Thin, conventionally attractive actors provide a sharp contrast to their fat subjects. Dramatic weight loss and gain reinforces our desire to believe that weight loss is facile, and that thinness is only and always a direct result of tenacity, dedication, willpower and work ethic. We have come to believe that our bodies are manifestations of our character, and complex, true fat stories provide an uncomfortable challenge to that belief. Indeed, actors who gain weight for roles — like Charlize Theron as Aileen Wuornos, or the aforementioned Christian Bale — are often rewarded with critical buzz and award nominations.

The erasure, caricature and appropriation of fat bodies isn’t just about giving fat actors a shot, or developing some new orthodoxy of casting. It’s about whose body is allowed to be seen, whose experience is allowed to be heard, and when.

Fat people are the overwhelming majority in the United States. Our lives are as full and complex as thin people’s, even as our experiences may differ. As we collectively adjust our expectations about who should play what roles, the time has come to acknowledge the insensitivity and irresponsibility of so consistently casting thin actors in fat roles. It’s time to stop, to reevaluate, and to give the rest of us — all 70% of us— a chance.

tl:dr -- people appreciate the hard work actors put into their craft and it makes me feel bad. Despite being 70% of the population being fat is like being a minority and fat history and culture has been completely erased because Hollywood doesn't cast enough fat people.

 

[Spastic Colon]

Alright going to do a deep dive on this new article from Your Fat Friend (you ain't my friend bish).

Spoiler

Bish you're at a fucking matinee. Building humanity? You're mindlessly eating and drinking 1000 calories watching a matinee.



Fat activists LOATHE actors that can add and lose weight depending on the role. It disproves most of their stupid ass rhetoric about "set points" and "destroying your metabolism".



Christ, not everything in media centers around Fat Activism or political statements about fatness. It was just Lithgow's Roger Ailes making a bad, self-deprecating excuse for being a creepy boss. It has no other inherent meaning.



Nobody would describe these as "fat stories" except someone that has no other tool to view the world. They are just stories.



I'll repeat when I just said: nobody views these stories as "fat stories" except essayists that can't deconstruct anything else.



sure on screen, but didn't you just read: 70% of Americans are fat. Fats are the majority. if you're an actor, maybe if you want more roles you should a) create a studio, fund a project, and market the shit out of it or you can b) lose weight. Your choice.



Work is often demeaning and people have to do it for a paycheck. More at 11. This is not exclusive to fat people. In fact, it's universal. There isn't a single worker in the world at any gig that hasn't felt demeaned on the job.



Fat isn't a race. It's not a nationality. You aren't born fat and it's not an identity to most people that aren't batshit insane and invested in making their gluttony their entire ID.



Actors and performers and models are fundamentally aspirational. Most people watch movies and television knowing full well it's not real life. People aren't that thin. They aren't that good looking. That is the point! It's fantasy. Again, if you think you can make money by creating a studio based on fat people and sell it, do it! See how many fat people want to watch other fat people remind them of how ugly and fat they are on screen.



That "stream" was more like a brief supernova of fame and she was not the lead actress in any of the highest grossing films. Her most successful film was Bridesmaids almost a decade ago and she was a supporting actress. Her most recent lead role was "Life of the Party" a film she wrote and produced. It netted a 46 metacritic score, 38% on rotten tomatoes and banked 61 million worldwide after costing roughly 30 million to produce. So a 35 million dollar net for one of Hollywood's most "bankable stars". That's chump change.

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tl:dr -- people appreciate the hard work actors put into their craft and it makes me feel bad. Despite being 70% of the population being fat is like being a minority and fat history and culture has been completely erased because Hollywood doesn't cast enough fat people.

But Melissa McCarthy is popular because she usually plays the funny fat girl role. Her weight is the butt of most of the jokes. I thought that was a bad thing?

Most actors are selected for roles based on their box office draw. Julia Roberts, despite being a mediocre actress, was likable and people would go to see her in movies. That's why she got the parts. Some people get parts because they sleep with the director/producer and generally those people are going to be young and attractive. If you seriously think Hollywood is a place where fairness and equality are even things people aspire to achieve, you are extremely naive.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

It's funny she talks about watching films to improve her empathy blah blah because her focus is clearly on nothing but the actors' gross physicality and whether they match the reality (hint: films nearly always cast prettier, because films are not funded as propaganda features by the state Soviet, they're business propositions and shock, people like to see attractive or at least interesting people onscreen rather than unphotogenic blobs) or 'represent' whatever facet of humanity SJWs have decided are the only people who are oppresssed and thus the only people who matter this month.

As for Cordon's poor-me bleating and whining, poor millionaire Jamesy. How very demeaning never to be cast as a romantic lead because you have the chubs and cannot be arsed to go to the gym with the rest of your fellow thesps. Of course, James find fat women, or at least his general physical equivalent, deeply attractive in the way he wants to be found attractive, right?

Does he fuck. Here's James with his wife, who is half his width, and sterotypically blonde and thin:




Like most shit that comes out of actors' mouths, it's self-serving shite, designed to create a moment or a movement that may just lead to them getting offered better roles

 

[thejackal]

It's funny she talks about watching films to improve her empathy blah blah because her focus is clearly on nothing but the actors' gross physicality and whether they match the reality (hint: films nearly always cast prettier, because films are not funded as propaganda features by the state Soviet, they're business propositions and shock, people like to see attractive or at least interesting people onscreen rather than unphotogenic blobs) or 'represent' whatever facet of humanity SJWs have decided are the only people who are oppresssed and thus the only people who matter this month.

As for Cordon's poor-me bleating and whining, poor millionaire Jamesy. How very demeaning never to be cast as a romantic lead because you have the chubs and cannot be arsed to go to the gym with the rest of your fellow thesps. Of course, James find fat women, or at least his general physical equivalent, deeply attractive in the way he wants to be found attractive, right?

Does he fuck. Here's James with his wife, who is half his width, and sterotypically blonde and thin:

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Like most shit that comes out of actors' mouths, it's self-serving shite, designed to create a moment or a movement that may just lead to them getting offered better roles

Don't tell yr fat friend about this article in which Melissa talks about her weight loss, her new workout routine and being inspired by working with the notoriously fit and disciplined Jude Law.

 

[Reilly]

I won't be surprised if she's at a nonprofit, and frankly, kind of expect her to be.

My other guess is that she got hired at a call center. Massive fatties and other undesirables can often find work in them due to high turnover, and working at one would allow her to sit on her ass all day (pretty much a mandatory condition for any employment she takes). Accommodating her fatness might mean finding a chair that can support her bulk, a headset that can fit her fat head, and possibly a workstation that's wider than most. That she has to train others to "respect" her and her pronouns (when nothing about her inspires respect) would be less expected at an NPC-riddled nonprofit, but unremarkable at a call center.

She’s working as

This wouldn't happen at a bleeding-heart nonprofit, so I'm stacking more of my chips on the "call center" square. That she has to talk to co-workers enough to get "misgendered" would mean she's still in training, in a probationary period, and subject to being culled at any time for being too slow to learn, not being able to do the job, and not getting along with other trainees or regular staff.

Enjoy your employment while it lasts, J; I don't think you're going to be there much longer.

she has a linkedin account that indicates she is a ‘youth worker’ at Greater Community Action Programs’. So yeah, she’s making $15 hour babysitting little criminals.

 

[Birthday Dickpunch]

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Now, granted, I'm not J's target audience here, but... I wouldn't. You already tried to "teach" them how to lick your ass and they're not interested in your particular brand of special bullshit. Move on.

^The purple jumpsuit thing is really the worst garment someone with a gunt and no butt can wear, lol. It's tacky and unflattering in every way, and I can't imagine any occasion where it would be appropriate aside from Three's Company cosplay at a con:
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Ahahaha that dog's fucking face. I'm with ya, buddy.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

she has a linkedin account that indicates she is a ‘youth worker’ at Greater Community Action Programs’. So yeah, she’s making $15 hour babysitting little criminals.

That youth worker job description has been on her Linkedin for months, long before she landed this current job. She worked for Community Action back in MA. I don't think she's currently doing that sort of work.

Edit: J(uliana) should start applying to any and all LGBTQQIP2SAA+ (lmao) jobs in the Lawrence/greater KC area and stfu. But I know that she won't because in reality she absolutely relishes playing the victim. It feeds her soul more than 18" pizzas and five pounds of dried apricots and yogurt-covered pretzels. It was a foregone conclusion that she would start shit at this new job.

 

[thejackal]

She’s working as


she has a linkedin account that indicates she is a ‘youth worker’ at Greater Community Action Programs’. So yeah, she’s making $15 hour babysitting little criminals.

this place? looks like a death fat xir repository:

 

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[rocknrollmartian]

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Most people don't sit around thinking about gender at all, Kelly.

God, her navel-gazing pseudo-autism is out of control lately. She's obnoxious.

 

[JuniperFalls]

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Wait a minute -- does "jkr" mean J. K Rowling? Who identifies as a female? Yet lividlipids uses the pronoun "they" rather than "she" to refer to her. I thought referring to people with the wrong pronouns was supposed to be bigoted TERF behavior?

 

[dismissfrogs]

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put on a fucking shirt you wildebeest

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Yeah, JK Rowling is now cancelled by the usual screeching, trans-worshipping SJW throngs because she tweeted support of some poor woman who lost her job and now, a court case over her support for biological reality over political ideology. A UK court backed up her sacking, ruling that saying a man who has obtained a Gender Recognition Certificate saying he is female is the exact same as an actual biological woman and to 'deny' (hahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa) this is unacceptable in a - get this - 'a democratic society'. This is boggling to the mind of anyone with an actual mind, as you can imagine, as opposed to crazed ideologues and SJW parrots who merely squawk whateer lunacy is currently fashionable without thinking through the consequences and inherent contradictions with the rest of their alleged beliefs.

Anyway, JK has what is known as fuck-you money, so hopefully she does not back down over this. No amount of wailing or fist-drumming from the likes of Angry Lipids, Jay and the rest of the brokens who have only ever read one book (with Potter in the title) is going to affect that woman's vast fortune. Anyway, expect a very 1933, GSU-type ceremonial burning of the Potter books and merch movement in 5, 4, 3, 2 .....

 

[Man vs persistent rat]

I am shocked she took a difficult stance on anything, she's had years of near-total cowardly jellyfish posts on social media before this. Although I'd consider it more likely that she is out of touch and doesn't realise how 'unacceptable' the waters she has stepped into are rather than her knowing she's taking a losing battle.

 

[rocknrollmartian]

Anyway, JK has what is known as fuck-you money, so hopefully she does not back down over this. No amount of wailing or fist-drumming from the likes of Angry Lipids, Jay and the rest of the brokens who have only ever read one book (with Potter in the title) is going to affect that woman's vast fortune. Anyway, expect a very 1933, GSU-type ceremonial burning of the Potter books and merch movement in 5, 4, 3, 2 .....

I dunno, if I were JK, I'd get the hell out of dodge or make sure to have all my money in Swiss accounts or whatever the extremely wealthy do to safeguard their liquid assets. As you know, the UK has gone mad and doesn't seem to have a problem with arresting or fining people who "misgender" these freaks. I could also see some ridiculous lawsuit involving an outrageous payout to scare TERFs--really, "TERFs"--into silence.

These fat SJW harpies are no better than the rabid participants in the witch trials or McCarthyism.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

I am shocked she took a difficult stance on anything, she's had years of near-total cowardly jellyfish posts on social media before this. Although I'd consider it more likely that she is out of touch and doesn't realise how 'unacceptable' the waters she has stepped into are.

I am not a JK fan, but I think this is - as with a lot of other people, especially older ones who have a firmer grasp of reality than the young and the brainwashed - her own personal tipping point. I think she's part of what may be termed the silent majority on this who are increasingly starting to speak up because the consquences of lying down as trans loons steamroller women's rights and biological science means staying silent is going to be worse than speaking up.

There has been a huge amount of conflict over the trans issue in the past year of two with many, many, formerly apolitical famous UK women (such as Olympic swimmer Sharon Davies) coming out as 'fuck no' over the trans inflitration and legal blugeoning of women's sport to accomodate transwomen i.e. men. The fact is the majority of people are thoroughly disgusted and repelled by this movement and do not and will not support the current crazy trans ideology given the consqeucnes of it are becoming increasingly obvious now they have all the legal support of the state behind it.

I think JK knows exactly what crazy ground she's stepping onto and as I said, there's really nothing they can do to her in any way given she is one of the richest women in the country and never needs to work again, let aone the fact that 0.1% of your fanbase having the tardvapours over this is meaningless anyway.

I dunno, if I were JK, I'd get the hell out of dodge or make sure to have all my money in Swiss accounts or whatever the extremely wealthy do to safeguard their liquid assets.

Oh rest assured her assets are already largely offshore, she's using every tax avoiding loophole going and has the best financial advisers her millions can buy. Like all her fellow extremely wealthy types who do like to virtue signal about things that involve the rest of us on piddling incomes and PAYE tax schemes paying more, it's almost certain their majority of their wealth is where the state cannot find or touch it or operate so they are effectively non-domiciled in the UK and thus not liable for tax.. Remember when virtue sgnalling in chief Emma Watson was named in the Panama Papers as having all her wealth in shell schemes abroad? Or chief architect of the PAY MOAR TAXES, GUILTY PEASANTS movement, a certain Irishman named Bono, was revealed to have the bulk of his wealth in tax avoidance schemes in the Netherlands?

 

[Spastic Colon]

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We shouldn't shame fat people because shame won't make them change their behaviors and not be fat. But we should totally shame people who are guilty of wrong think because shame will make them change their behavior and not have wrong thoughts.

And, my god, how I wish your "trans siblings" were dying at the rate you all claim they are. Then the troon menace would be completely eliminated by 2025, at the latest.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

And, my god, how I wish your "trans siblings" were dying at the rate you all claim they are. Then the troon menace would be completely eliminated by 2025, at the latest.

Wait until they find out the sudden infiltration of militant trans ideology into almost every facet of life, institution and branch of government, and the creation of the 'trans kids' movement has been funded by uber-capitalistic and militaristic billionaires like 'Jennifer' Pritzker who is basically the political equivalent of a Koch brother (exceot a late in life MTF, at least we cannot accuse the Kochs of not knowing which sex they were) but also has massive investments in biotech, big pharma and surgical technology, which is basically the point of the exercise.

Far be it from me to suggest the interesectional leftist genderwokes have been the most cringeingly naive useful idiots for the people they generally despise, but er ... that's exactly what they have been.

 

[Twinkie]

I almost wish these fat dykes J and Corissa had their own thread so this one wouldnt get constantly derailed with muh transgender bullshit