Trainwreck Onision / James Gregory Jackson / Gregory James Daniel/Jackson/Avaroe - Edgy king of the tweens, Vegan with deformed dick, Pedo, Destroying the Environment. Serial Domestic Abuser, Served the wrong Chris Hansen.

I have an abstract legal question for those who know the law... A TV presenter going on the air and saying someone committed a crime knowing that it isn't true is grounds for slander, and both the reporter and the network would be responsible. Are YouTube celebrities held to the same standard, or is it considered "casual speech" like social media posts? I understand that slander is a difficult thing to prove in court, and I'm not saying that a crime hasn't been committed. I'm just asking what responsibilities Chris Hansen has to ensure that his reporting is fair and accurate.

He has the same obligations anyone else has not to commit defamation, and because his reputation is as someone who actually hunts pedophiles for a living, and who has repeatedly caught them, many of whom were prosecuted, him saying someone is a pedophile and that he has physical evidence of them transmitting child pornography is going to be believed by the people hearing it.

So if he says something like that and it's false, if anything, it's much more defamatory than, say, Elon Musk randomly calling some dude a pedo. I don't believe he's just angrily insulting someone with a hurtful accusation. I think he is simply directly making a factual statement that he has physical evidence that Onision has transmitted child pornography and thus committed a crime. I also tend to give his statement a high amount of weight. I think much of the audience of his statements are going to believe that it is an actual fact that Onision is a criminal pedophile.

That's defamatory per se.

He has an obligation to ensure that when he makes such statements, they're true. If he doesn't, he can be sued for lots and lots of money, and he will lose. Further, his reputation as an accurate source of information, which is what his entire career is based on, would be ruined forever.

So he's opened himself up to a lot of legal liability and staked his reputation for honesty and accuracy on this accusation. As someone whose accusation, especially in this area, carries a lot of weight, his responsibility to be fair and accurate may actually be higher than that of a normal person.
 
Who the shit is Stevie?

One of the og Onision content creators, even before repzion was first involved back in the day
 
Adam seems way too eager to call himself a victim, compared to every single other person who's been on who is kinda hesitant to call themselves a victim.

The comment about what hentai Onision watches, how he had white hair despite claiming to also have fucking alopecia, and all the weird self affirmation crap he kept spouting the whole fucking time really doesn't scream 'legit victim' to me.

Has anyone even heard of this guy before all of this? Does any of this ring any bells? Cause according to his story he was in some videos.

Idk if I'm just too suspicious or what, but something just feels off about this one.
 
Adam seems way too eager to call himself a victim, compared to every single other person who's been on who is kinda hesitant to call themselves a victim.

The comment about what hentai Onision watches, how he had white hair despite claiming to also have fucking alopecia, and all the weird self affirmation crap he kept spouting the whole fucking time really doesn't scream 'legit victim' to me.

Has anyone even heard of this guy before all of this? Does any of this ring any bells? Cause according to his story he was in some videos.

Idk if I'm just too suspicious or what, but something just feels off about this one.

how should a "legit victim" act, then? just wondering.

i've not actually watched the interview with this Adam individual, so i don't know what their entire story is and how genuine it is, but i'm just curious as to your criteria regarding how a victim should act.
 
how should a "legit victim" act, then? just wondering.

i've not actually watched the interview with this Adam individual, so i don't know what their entire story is and how genuine it is, but i'm just curious as to your criteria regarding how a victim should act.

Its not really a criteria of ways a legit victim should act thats getting to me, I get that people can react to shit in different ways and blah blah blah. And tbh, I don't even know if I could begin to come up with a criteria for how a legit victim should act anyways, thats way beyond my basic bitch shitposting ways.

I just find some of the ways he was talking about stuff to be a little odd, and how he didn't have to even be prompted to label himself as a victim is only one thing I found strange tbh.

Adam seems... very eager to talk about this. And not to say that thats a sign against being legit, but its just weird when you compare this to how all the other people interviewed have acted. Every one else focuses on what happened, not really on themselves, if that makes any sense?

I'm also kinda just automatically suspicious cause of the whole 'gotta obscure my identity cause Onision might come after me' shit he seems to be trying to get people to believe.

And also the alopecia thing. Not letting that one go. He claims he has alopecia, and yet also claims at the time he had white hair. I don't know whether he meant he had a white wig at the time or what, but that is still kinda weird to me.

But idk, maybe I'm just looking for bullshit where there isn't any.
 
If I understand correctly Adam is one of Lainey’s attempted grooming conquests. I don’t think things went any farther than talking online (along the lines of Luxymoo and Maya).


One of the og Onision content creators, even before repzion was first involved back in the day

Maybe it’s my tism showing that this bothers me, but man, that faggot Vincent has made a mess out of this series by bringing people on with no rhyme or reason. Say what you will about Hansen himself but he’s a good and thorough interviewer and if things had been set up better it could have had more impact and painted an even stronger picture of the bullshit the gruesome twosome have pulled. As it stands now, it’s just all over the place.

If it were me, I’d have had Stevie, Blaire and Repzion (the minor players) at the beginning of the stream series on Grugly. Then I’d have followed with the attempted/aborted online-only conquests, so to speak, like Luxy, Maya, Adam, etc. Then Ayalla next, followed by Billie and finish with Shiloh and Sarah.
 
Its not really a criteria of ways a legit victim should act thats getting to me, I get that people can react to shit in different ways and blah blah blah. And tbh, I don't even know if I could begin to come up with a criteria for how a legit victim should act anyways, thats way beyond my basic bitch shitposting ways.

I just find some of the ways he was talking about stuff to be a little odd, and how he didn't have to even be prompted to label himself as a victim is only one thing I found strange tbh.

Adam seems... very eager to talk about this. And not to say that thats a sign against being legit, but its just weird when you compare this to how all the other people interviewed have acted. Every one else focuses on what happened, not really on themselves, if that makes any sense?

I'm also kinda just automatically suspicious cause of the whole 'gotta obscure my identity cause Onision might come after me' shit he seems to be trying to get people to believe.

And also the alopecia thing. Not letting that one go. He claims he has alopecia, and yet also claims at the time he had white hair. I don't know whether he meant he had a white wig at the time or what, but that is still kinda weird to me.

But idk, maybe I'm just looking for bullshit where there isn't any.

It's a transtrender, of course she's going to make it all about herself and collect as many victim vouchers as she can hold while being as dramatic and theatrical as possible.

As with all the other online-only targets, she added her two cents, something can be salvaged from all her sperging. Better put up with a nothing burger than risk missing any information of value.

I admit I had a chuckle with the "they prey on men too!!" and now my X key is broken.
 
And also the alopecia thing. Not letting that one go. He claims he has alopecia, and yet also claims at the time he had white hair. I don't know whether he meant he had a white wig at the time or what, but that is still kinda weird to me.

But idk, maybe I'm just looking for bullshit where there isn't any.

What about white hair and alopecia though? I'll admit I didn't watch the interview so idk how this was brought up but my guess is their hair was dyed white. Which you can do even if you have alopecia, bleach is not "unsafe" for people who have alopecia.

I do have a very vague memory of this person mentioned earlier in the thread, discussing the "would I date you?" Videos. But idk what video was this exactly

Edit: ok it was a wig and not dyed. And here is the post with the run down of the Adam incident
 
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I can't take the online relationship shit seriously. Having a falling out online and sending dodgy pictures is upsetting for them, of course I understand that but Hansen and team shouldn't put these people in the same group as people like Sarah, Skye, Billie and Shiloh.

E - Are these people* actually providing any proof aside from their own testimonies? Genuine question because if they aren't what's the point? Unless there's something substantial but aside from them taking Regina's phone (apparently) I don't know of anything else that's come out that's genuinely new and damning.
 
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What about white hair and alopecia though? I'll admit I didn't watch the interview so idk how this was brought up but my guess is their hair was dyed white. Which you can do even if you have alopecia, bleach is not "unsafe" for people who have alopecia.

I do have a very vague memory of this person mentioned earlier in the thread, discussing the "would I date you?" Videos. But idk what video was this exactly

Adam claims that he has alopecia and has to wear wigs, but also mentioned that during his time talking to Lainey that he had white hair.

I just find it odd that someone who outright states he HAS TO wear wigs cause 'muh alopecia' also claims to have white hair at the same time, but again, maybe I'm trying to see bullshit where there isn't any.
 
And also the alopecia thing. Not letting that one go. He claims he has alopecia, and yet also claims at the time he had white hair. I don't know whether he meant he had a white wig at the time or what, but that is still kinda weird to me.
He very clearly stated in the interview that he was wearing a wig at the time and had asked lainey not to comment on it, as he was very insecure about it because of the alopecia. Lainey still did and that's when he denied wearing a wig because he was ashamed
 
As I (and presumably everyone who follows Grug), predicted Grug has made yet another re.tarded freakout video. In this one Grug shows a hint of self awareness gives an accurate description of himself, likely doing it as a sad attempt to parody his detractors. He does this while screaming at a mirror and having one his signature obviously fake, poorly acted tard meltdowns. The only thing he got wrong with his description is that he referred to himself as being respected at one point, despite the fact that no one, outside of pre-teen/ teenage girls has ever respected him.
I love it. And his persistency to shit out these retarded meltdown videos makes the entire series itself even greater. I hope he continues making them for the next few months.
 
Are these people* actually providing any proof aside from their own testimonies? Genuine question because if they aren't what's the point? Unless there's something substantial but aside from them taking Regina's phone (apparently) I don't know of anything else that's come out that's genuinely new and damning.

I'm curious about this as well. I want to think Hansen requests evidence beforehand instead of taking them at face value. If not, there's nothing preventing me to cover my face with a towel because "muh anonymity" and bullshit him to my heart's content.
 
He very clearly stated in the interview that he was wearing a wig at the time and had asked lainey not to comment on it, as he was very insecure about it because of the alopecia. Lainey still did and that's when he denied wearing a wig because he was ashamed

That is such a dick move. I went to look for the clip and Lainey literally said "I don't know if that's your hair or a wig but the color is so fitted! Well, it's white, is white fitted?"
Also all her compliments to the other girls sounded like she was reading them off of tumblr "omg smol bean, the smollest of the beans, i am so gay, fuck me up"
 
I had a gut feeling the forums would play a larger role. If they nab him on enticement, that'll be the source for sure. Maybe even distribution. Big :optimistic: all around

I said this before as well, the feds will use players like Repzion and Hansen in their cat and mouse game with Grug to help steer him or put pressure on. He feels like he has the power and control, but in reality each time they make a calculated move - like admitting the feds know both Onion AND Plainey have evidence against them - he's forced to make a move himself
Even if it's just "I HAVE SEX WITH GROWN WOMEN" sperging. The right move and right amout of pressure could have Grug unwittingly giving up pertinent info or make a stupid mistake while they're watching him. It's that sort of game now.

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to the post above, Hansen does check into his guests before they appear. I don't see him being a successful journalist for MSNBC and having assisted in catching predators (thereby understanding that entire process legally, what can and can't be done for credibility and legal standing in court) and NOT vetting his guests. Or being careless.
I think Vincent has said as much.
 
Didn't he also tweeted about being on livestream with hansen? because if so then onion fans can harras him anyway.
Maybe he didn't want to show his face to avoid people irl knowing about his history with onision, or him being transgender.
As Hanson introduced Adam in the stream it sounded as the reason for the dark room was because Adam isn't out as trans in real life or something.

That interview was a bit off as other people mentioned. I don't know if it was just because of Adam's face being hidden and that set the tone for the interview and some of the things s/he said were strange. Something just didn't sit right.

other than giving the victims and accusations legitimacy what exactly does Hanson bring to the table? Does he have connections that we should know of? as far as I'm tracking he's not working with law enforcement.
If he does have LE connections, which he likely would have some after working in journalism for so long, I'm not sure he would share that information. It's a bit unlikely that he would compromise professional connections who are likely toeing the line as far as what they can share about an ongoing investigation. Or he could be full of it, but I don't see Hanson tanking his career for onion boy.
 
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