Manosphere Fonduman / mooooo - (he shits up our loveshy threads)

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Oh boy
Moo said:
- It's surprisingly easy to hand their asses to them if you remain calm and collected. Usually even feminists etc can occasionally raise an argument that, if not precisely true or valid, takes a bit of thought to uncover the flaw. Here, it's more like correcting a child's homework. Almost every point they make has some glaring, obvious deficiency. Pointing these out each time feels more like guiding them in how to reason than debating someone.
The problem with this is that Moo basically ignores all the rebuttles I and others have raised. And when you press him on it he presents some ad hominem like "Oh well you're an SJW so I don't have to answer you".
Having said that, the vast majority of responses are not "points" at all. There are at least five main types of responses, all of which are much more abundant than a counter argument:
- Claiming that their experiences are more valid than yours. Usually phrased as "confirmation bias" to try and sound scientific.
This is a valid argument if we're stating you're naive. Which you are.
Claiming that their viewpoint is correct and yours is not, without any backing reasons or arguments (usually complemented by an insult)
Whenever we do use an argument you ignore it.
- Making arbitrary and subjective declarations about you as an attempt to justify dismissing your reasoning without the need to actually tackle the reasoning itself. The most common one is "Autistic". Something can be declared autistic if it's worded in a calm and reasoned manner, or if they simply don't like what you said. This reveals a deep lack of understanding about the nature of Autism. Their understanding seems to be that logic and impersonal phrasing is autistic, and irrational emotion is normal. This is irrelevant to the true autistic traits such as habitual actions/OCD-like behaviour, inability to filter between sensory inputs (to focus on only the relevant), an inability to read social cues and body language etc, issues with motor coordination, and a few others.
This is a forum where we make fun of an autistic 30 year old. Being called autistic here is ridiculously common and it's largely bait. The fact you take any of that seriously worries me.
- Attempts to defame character. Apart from that an argument can be dismissed due to an unrelated character trait, the interesting thing is when these are simply made up. They literally make a story and then behave as though it's true.
We make fun of you because you react in a funny way. It's why you have a thread here. There are loveshies on this board that don't react with hostility and learn to laugh at themselves and they don't have lolcow threads.
- Insults. No attempt to discuss/reason. These are at least honest in their intention, although a mob-mentality takes place due to the majority sharing the same viewpoint, which gives rise to a deluded sense of validity where an opinion is seen as more valid simply for being shared by others there.
If you ignore all of the arguments and only answer the ones you find convenient insults are inevitable. You should be aware of this. If you don't want to be insulted please go back to your Loveshy forum/hugbox.
- Eventually, they resort to censorship because they get frustrated due to, perhaps, a subconscious understanding that they look stupid within the context. This is rationalised via claims such as debate is off-topic. Note that debates with "lolcows" that are less calm can go on for dozens of pages without being deemed "off-topic", because they extract amusement from it, and a false sense of superiority. Thus the off-topic complaint is an excuse hiding the true reason for censorship.
It's because you derailed an already existing thread into one that became all about you. Now you have your own thread and you won't get "censored" here. Since this will just be a place where we catalog every stupid thing you say.
 
I'm not sure why so much of this thread has been about his degree. Even if it's true, and it doesn't matter if it is, degrees don't mean anything. As a degree holder myself, I can attest to the fact that having a degree does not make you smarter than people without one. I don't see why this is such a hotly debated point of contention when it doesn't really matter either way. What really caught my eye about our new loveshy friend here is the appalling amount of sexism that oozes from seemingly every other post he's put on this forum, accompanied by the way in which he seems surprised that women don't flock to him.

Girls don't dislike you because you're too nice. everyone dislikes you because you seem to be kind of a massive tosser.
@Rio , @mooooo is eliding the point. In the Shy Hard and Sluthate threads, this fine fellow barged in to tell us all about how evolution and psychology worked, and claimed his degrees in physics and software engineering made him qualified to pontificate on these topics. Basically, he was justifying his sexism by claiming it was science - or sy-ence, as he charmingly condescended - and he was schooling us all because he is a scientist.

The physicist or engineer who likes to explain evolution to biologists is a classic example of the Dunning Kruger effect, and basically a walking punchline. Despite being informed of this in exactly so many words, @mooooo chose to believe that other users were incredulous about his degrees and not taken aback by his incredible outrecuidance. He offered to post his CV, backpedaled on the offer, but eventually decided it would be a good idea to show us all his diploma.

And here we are.
 
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moooo said:
Of course, it's debatable to say that most of us have a negative view of women. Negative implies opinion. If we conclude from evidence that women are a certain way, and others conclude from our conclusions that our view is negative, then that's their opinion that our conclusions paint them in a negative light, not ours. At no point is there a requirement for us to have declared an opinion.

In other words, is someone who knows spiders can be cannibalistic holding negative views of spiders? Maybe, but that alone says nothing of their views. It's just knowledge. When we state something we believe to be true about women, it doesn't inherently imply opinion.

I literally have no words.

So, @mooooo, what is it exactly that you intend to accomplish here? You gathered your data, so why come back?
 
Here we see a younger and more idealistic @mooooo
Young Fonduman said:
so, i thought, i need something definitive if i was to get anywhere. poetry is something i like to think i have a knack for, so i had a try at making a love poem. i dont think it was bad, i tried to keep it from turning into a typical cheesy overly romantic love poem, but kept it eloquent and i had some genuine thoughts and opinions within it, about how i felt about her. even then i doubted if it would be a good idea to give it to her, but i was at the point where i was desperate for any reaction at all. it was probably the first time that i had explicitly made my feelings clear to a girl, and i still was apprehensive about it, so i made it annonymous, typed it on computer, and slipped it under her bedroom door when she was out. if her reaction to it was positive, perhaps i could tell her i wrote it.
that was last night. today, i got my reaction. of all the reactions i had considered, total alienation wasnt one of them. apparently, they got together and decided i must have been the one who wrote it, seeing as the girl is avoiding speaking to me, and the rest seem somewhat evasive. none have raised the matter directly to my face, and i cant raise it without showing i knew of the poem. i thought they'd have at least thought it was the other guy who likes her who'd made it, im not the only one who's realised how much he clings to her, but he must've got in before i could and asserted he had no part to play in the poem making. he seems to be enjoying my apparent defeat, think i may have heard him say something along the lines of "he would deny it anyway if you asked him" after i walked out of a room.
Clearly, the girls were all over you in college.
 
I never said women like rape, and I don't have violent thoughts. So, for me, it's the assertions that those are true that seem stupid. Being completely genuinefor a second, can you understand my view? If people are making erroneous assertions, then they have a flaw in their reasoning somewhere, where they haven't picked up information correctly.

I don't think anyone could be expected to understand your views because, looking through your post history, which is heavily themed by stuff like this:
I'll say that when a guy hits a woman, they'll often be surprisingly forgiving partly because there's some element of it that is attractive
which is just completely inane and demonstrates a view of human psychology that is, for lack of better word, broken. In that same post, you also talked about the fact that you believe women find the idea of being raped attractive, which is so ridiculous I won't even get into it, but the fact that you think women enjoy being abused really sort of tells me enough about your views.
 
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@mooooo, you never answered my question about whether you agree with Dante and his views on 12 year old prostitutes.
You know he believes that interracial dating and marriage are bad ideas, and believes in segregation. What are your thoughts on that?
 
@mooooo, you never answered my question about whether you agree with Dante and his views on 12 year old prostitutes.
You know he believes that interracial dating and marriage are bad ideas, and believes in segregation. What are your thoughts on that?
Dante sounds like a swell guy, my 14 year old daughter needs a babysitter. Email me at tocatchapredator@yahoo.com please dante
 
Is there some kind of subliminal messaging going on at Loveshy.com that turns people into Fuckbots?
 
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So this thread is, after 6 hours, 8 pages of you guys piling on some dumb loveshy, I figure I might as well join the fun even if I don't think he's the next Maryjane Shitlick.
So you're deliberately acting like a desperate lolcow then?

Great plan....
Especially considering that a man with the communication skill of a 6 year old managed to trick us all with a fictional lolcow for two years. Come on, step it up FonduFudgePacker.

@mooooo doesn't have plenty of girls who show interest IRL if women online think he's a fucking dick.

What do you call the useless piece of skin on the end of a Love Shy's penis?
All of him.
And the average loveshy penis probably isn't even that useful. BURN BAYBEE!
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