Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

Don’t forget that Henderson thrives on complications and having patients come back for repeat surgeries. I have not seen one munchie get their neck sliced open with him who has not had at least one more surgery and yet they still call the surgeries successful

Because being more disabled and needing more toys and procedures is a success to these people.

 

[Man vs persistent rat]

Is it normal for a person with a fucked neck to be fine with doing shoulder-heavy scrubbing actions like zesting?

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Funny you say that because she has a pain management appointment tomorrow and of course yesterday was a horrible day for her and she had to hibernate. Now she’s having issues talking which I’m sure her family is happy about.

Does anyone know why this weirdo calls her parents by their first names?

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Don’t forget that Henderson thrives on complications and having patients come back for repeat surgeries. I have not seen one munchie get their neck sliced open with him who has not had at least one more surgery and yet they still call the surgeries successful

So sorry I didn’t get to screenshots of this as I am currently lacking ability to do so on one of my devices, but someone with firsthand knowledge of mysteryelles and her family posted something interesting on the Reddit’s the other day. She said that her mom, “Zeus” was her 4th grade teacher and that she was an absolutely terrible teacher that relished basically psychologically scarring her students. She said that she’s now a teacher and wouldn’t ever want to bad talk anyone in the profession without a reason. Anyhow, she said that she’s not suprised that given the terribleness of her mother, that she is a munchie now after failed performance and gymnastics career.

Sorry again for not getting screenshots. Maybe someone else can get them for me. But, if her mom is like that, it is no wonder she doesn’t call her mom.

 

[large_farva]

I scoured the reddits and can't find the comment you mentioned, but did see that she calls her mom 'zeus' because her mother goes by "suze" short for Susan, and mysteryelles is really just playing adult baby, saw that tummy time on the airport floor photo and need eye bleach.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I scoured the reddits and can't find the comment you mentioned, but did see that she calls her mom 'zeus' because her mother goes by "suze" short for Susan, and mysteryelles is really just playing adult baby, saw that tummy time on the airport floor photo and need eye bleach.

The comment was deleted after only a few hours and no one got a screenshot to my knowledge. I saw it and it did say that but I don't have any proof.

 

[Spooniest spoon]

The comment was deleted after only a few hours and no one got a screenshot to my knowledge. I saw it and it did say that but I don't have any proof.

Any luck with removeddit? I know it doesn't catch everything but it does archive user deleted comments unlike ceddit/snew

Edit: yeah no such luck

 

[mooserangerofthenorth]

Same pain medication as surgery, but I need a SPECIFIC brand of a patch. Uh, screams munchie.

Hoffman sign is for upper spine AKA cervical. Doctors typically aren't going to say "why yes, Elles you've got a hoffman here!"

 

[elliptical narcissist]

Removeddit and Ceddit aren't working lately. Not for me anyway.

So. I'm older and throughout the years I've seen the occasional family where the children don't refer to their parents as mom and dad, they call them by their given names. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. In one family I'm aware of, it goes all the way back to the 30s/40s. That family is kind of proud of being rather eccentric.

 

[large_farva]

spoonful_of_benadryl didn't die yet, but aw jeez is she having a tough time deciding what to destroy next, more of her spine/brain, more toobz or another special surgery.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

Same pain medication as surgery, but I need a SPECIFIC brand of a patch. Uh, screams munchie.

Hoffman sign is for upper spine AKA cervical. Doctors typically aren't going to say "why yes, Elles you've got a hoffman here!"
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I wonder what kind of instrumentation she had. Anybody know? Does anyone know if she has a “real” EDS diagnosis from a geneticist. True EDS patients often require more invasive instrumentation to get solid fusion. Would not suprise me if Henderson is purposely not doing enough to get repeat surgeries given his penchant for cash only surgeries.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Any luck with removeddit? I know it doesn't catch everything but it does archive user deleted comments unlike ceddit/snew

Edit: yeah no such luck

/u/dryicequeen came through with these.



Say what you want about the IFGW crowd, they know how to archive shit before it disappears and find what's been lost.

 

[mooserangerofthenorth]

True EDSers in general should avoid surgery. 10 years ago doctors began learning towards bone procedures to actually change the structure of the joint rather than tightening.
Doctors now tend to avoid surgery and opt for physical therapy and pain management rather than surgery. EDSers tend to fail with even more invasive procedures (eg, laterjet for shoulder dislocations) because the collagen just doesn't work. Fusion is even more dangerous because you actually change the structure and screw it all together. EDSErs are going to just get looser above and below.

I would love to know his hardware rejection rate, because I can guess it is high. It probably opts for plates and screws and approaches from the back rather than anterior.

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

True EDSers in general should avoid surgery. 10 years ago doctors began learning towards bone procedures to actually change the structure of the joint rather than tightening.
Doctors now tend to avoid surgery and opt for physical therapy and pain management rather than surgery. EDSers tend to fail with even more invasive procedures (eg, laterjet for shoulder dislocations) because the collagen just doesn't work. Fusion is even more dangerous because you actually change the structure and screw it all together. EDSErs are going to just get looser above and below.

I would love to know his hardware rejection rate, because I can guess it is high. It probably opts for plates and screws and approaches from the back rather than anterior.

Is there anywhere I can read about this butcher?

I took care of someone with a fusion and the fusion was literally only done because they would have died without it.

I'm horrified and intrigued that there is someone doing this procedure on fakers as long as they have the $$$ and not a true medical need.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Is there anywhere I can read about this butcher?

I took care of someone with a fusion and the fusion was literally only done because they would have died without it.

I'm horrified and intrigued that there is someone doing this procedure on fakers as long as they have the $$$ and not a true medical need.

You will find very little negative information about him on the internet because he makes patients sign an NDA before he chops them. Can't post negative reviews online, can't run to the media with horror stories, can't shit talk him or his practice.

 

[ifellandbrokemyspleen]

Same pain medication as surgery, but I need a SPECIFIC brand of a patch. Uh, screams munchie.

Hoffman sign is for upper spine AKA cervical. Doctors typically aren't going to say "why yes, Elles you've got a hoffman here!"
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This one claims EDS, right? Or am I mixing these girls up. People with EDS have issues with local anesthetics like lidocaine and novacain, so I would be pretty surprised if a lidocaine patch actually worked for someone with EDS.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

I became aware of a female dsp style thot in 2017 named Kaelijae. She's actually vastly improved upon the dsp formula, she streams maybe 6-7 times a month but always blows up social media with her medical problems. In may or so she had Bell's palsy and appeared onstream with this fucked up stroke face and started 2 different GoFundMe campaigns asking for about $10,000. The only guy who donated to the 2nd one is some wheelchair with a degenerative muscle disease that probably has better things to spend money on.
Her problems are more vague now but swore her doctor INSISTED she get an apple watch for the next time she collapses on the floor and can't reach her sailfoam. Some tarded looking military fucker bought her one, of course.
Many begging campaigns are about her "about to be homeless" and out of food. After a good grifting run on Mixer she then posted in Discord that postmates fucked up and locked her money off and she was still starving. Not too long ago she even claimed she couldn't drink tapwater due to "muh immunities" and kept presenting an ever shrinking gallon of spring water dying of thirst. She desperately ended stream as if she were dying.

The postmates thing is believable and I had that happen to me so I fucked a fat girl for dinner.
Anyways
She defected to Twitch and alienated her whole mixer fanbase a month later after no streams.
What she really does is get expensive tattoos, hot topic clothes and Starbucks around Vegas. Allegedly she borrowed money from Zombiunicorn and never paid it back.

I lack the skills to make a thread and I only found one other deteactor on reddit. Sometimes I line up a few burner accounts and call her out on her shit but the milk is rather low anymore. https://www.reddit.com/r/rant/comments/cd7f8f/zombiunicorn_is_a_no_talent_streamer/
Regardless, she's twitchthot cancer.

This screenshot is from a month before the bell's palsy saga, when she got those betabuxx she got a super expensive tattoo.

 

[Nomen Celandum]

Spinal fusion doesn’t help 95% of musculoskeletal pain. The only time it would be possible to reduce MS type pain would be if a patient has a demonstrated spondylolisthesis that is causing intense muscle pain and spasm from the muscles overworking to stabilize the spine. The only catch is that, in EDS patients, they may need upright or flexion/extension MRI to demonstrate spondylolisthesis, as the joint may realign on supine MRI.

This is the key point. Spondylolisthesis is a bone issue (it is sliding of one vertebra over another other) - it is easily seen on X-ray, which is cheap and quick and readily available. Any spinal surgeon will have extensive experience reading flexion/extension or standing X-rays.

The reason, the "CCI aware" surgeons are sending people for upright MRI is because it is rare, exotic and no one has much experience with it - this means that they can say the study shows almost anything they like, and they can deflect a lot of criticism by simply saying "and how much upright MRI experience do you have?"

If the upright MRI did show genuine spondylolisthesis, then at least that would be one thing that people could agree on. But that's not what is being used for diagnosis - it's weird stuff like measuring angles and distances (several of these measures have actually been discredited for over a decade). Even then, there is argument about spondylolisthesis - slight spondylolisthesis is a normal finding on flexion/extension X-ray (and presumably MRI, but no one has actually published the study - presumably because upright MRI is super expensive, so no research funding group will pay for it) - but the "CCI aware" surgeons are using this very slight spondylolisthesis as an indication for surgery (they are calling it sub-axial instability -SAI).

These upright MRI centers are private businesses, and they have got the munchie market down to a fine art. You go in, have your scan, and then the specialist radiologist takes you into their office, and shows you the pictures, telling you how terribly unstable your neck is. There's no waiting for a result to go back to your surgeon. You get a specialist showing you the pictures and giving you your diagnosis then and there. And of course, because you've actually seen the pictures and had the "abnormalities" pointed out by a specialist, you now know that when you go to your regular surgeon and they tell you that the scan is normal, that this surgeon is incompetent/lazy/a quack/etc.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

So... signing an NDA isnt exactly normal for surgeons or specialists, is it?

 

[Munchie_Minder]

So... signing an NDA isnt exactly normal for surgeons or specialists, is it?

Nope.

As for Henderson, he may be worthy of his own thread one day. I find his little niche he’s carved out to be the lowest of the low considering he’s using people’s legitimate experiences with horrible doctors and pretending to be this unrivaled god of surgical miracles. There are enough terrible and mediocre orthopedic doctors in the world without having those who will put anyone on a table with cash to spare and a consent form signed. Would love to see someone without EDS and issues go to him and report on what he said. Any doctor who claims that others are quacks/uneducated but won’t release their “research” to educate other doctors rings all of my alarm bells.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Nope.

As for Henderson, he may be worthy of his own thread one day. I find his little niche he’s carved out to be the lowest of the low considering he’s using people’s legitimate experiences with horrible doctors and pretending to be this unrivaled god of surgical miracles. There are enough terrible and mediocre orthopedic doctors in the world without having those who will put anyone on a table with cash to spare and a consent form signed. Would love to see someone without EDS and issues go to him and report on what he said. Any doctor who claims that others are quacks/uneducated but won’t release their “research” to educate other doctors rings all of my alarm bells.

Actually, know who he reminds me of?

That one doctor who was giving people synthetic trachea with stem cells and murdered like 8 people via medical malpractice. He got away with it too (not being convicted and rotting in jail), as they tend to.