War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


---Original OP before the merge---
Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.

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[Iwasamwillbe]

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently....”

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Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....hundreds of Iranian protesters. He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years. Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.....”

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Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

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The gauntlet has been thrown.

The Happening Levels are rising higher and higher.

 

[Aria]

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently....”

twitter.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....hundreds of Iranian protesters. He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years. Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.....”

twitter.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

twitter.com

The gauntlet has been thrown.

so it begins.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently....”

twitter.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....hundreds of Iranian protesters. He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years. Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.....”

twitter.com

Donald J. Trump on Twitter

“....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

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The gauntlet has been thrown.

Fucking nice. One-ups them on the numbers.
Goat Fuckers> WE WILL DO 35!
Troll Master> Fifty-Two, bitch.

Then give it a historical/emotional/symbolic feature

Goat Fuckers> 52? Why?
Troll Master> For the 52 hostages you took when you hit our embassy LAST TIME!
Goat Fuckers> Oh, yeah, right.

And of course, the press is going to have to explain that part, and try to downplay how that it's totes not the same because he was stopped from doing it by suddenly transforming into chunky salsa by an outdated and obsolete TOW-II. Which means they'll be reminding everyone: "Oh, yeah, these are the assholes who took 52 hostages and tortured them for fucking years."

So the press and the Dems can either defend the 70's Hostage Crisis AND Iran AND protest the legitimate military targeting of a military leader, or get behind BadOrangeMan.

The Iranians aren't used to shit like this. We should have already sent Kerry over with his dick sucking lips attached and air dropped them a couple pallets of Hunnah Dollah Billz already, not shoved back AND stepped up into their faces.

He reminded the whole world that Iran did this shit before, that they were planning of a repeat, that Iran likes to hit embassies.

This shit has been coming since the 1970's. Let's be honest. Sooner or later they'd be standing behind Russia throwing shit at people, and Russia was going to step out of the way leaving them standing in front of the angry gorilla.

It's funny that Iran getting BTFO is a winning play for Russia. No matter HOW this comes out, it's a winning move for Russia if the US just ignores all of it except to increase sanctions. With Iran fucking around with the Strait and last year hitting oil tankers, most of the rest of the major players win no matter what happens.

And the even funnier part is, you don't have to start setting up a false flag operation against Iran. They're saddled with leaders fucking arrogant and stupid enough to honestly think that the US will back down THIS TIME just like always if they just do one more terrorist hit.

You watch, you pick the DUMBEST fucking thing they can do, and that'll be the option the Iranian leadership takes.

It is Clownworld, after all, boys, in the Current Year +3 Timeline.

Honk mutherfuckin Honk

 

[Sanshain]

The King of the South is engaging in a pushing.

 

[The Last Stand]

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

 

[MrTickles]

That depends on what you consider to be an "aspect of US foreign policy". I want you to personally define that for me, since I know you'll try to change it in the future to move the goalposts.

Basically anything that positively furthers the interests of the state abroad. Domestic interests as you know go far beyond security. Even on that front it is far less safe for American tourists (western tourists in general) to prance around the world in 2019 vs 2000 for example. And before you begin, no, Israeli interests are not US interests. Different populations with different needs and goals.

 

[los pepes]

The interesting thing about him mentioning cultural sites is that it's technically a war crime. It's Trumps way of basically telling them if they keep fucking with him he doesn't care about the rules. In this situation "cultural sites" is a euphemism targeted strikes against the senior political leadership of the country. "I'm not afraid to war crime you and the UN aint gonna help" drives home the point that the old rules are out the window all their calculations based off of those rules on what America will do and what they can get away with are gone with it.

This is now a PR war more than anything else. If they launch a hundred rockets at a base and he yeets a handful of mullahs in response, he won that round. Short of sinking an aircraft carrier there isn't anything they can do to win any individual round of exchanges because he's not constraining himself like they expected him to. Hell if they did sink a carrier there is a 50/50 chance he would actually nuke them.

 

[ShortBusDriver]

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

No, Obama established a literal kill list called the Disposition Matrix and made it part of the US's foreign policy including killing US citizens.

Disposition Matrix - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Huitzilopochtli]

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

Not much. Neither of them need to drone strike people to stay in office. Obama got shit for ~1200 drone strikes. Last year Trump called ~5500 just last year, and is only getting shit when he hit someone who had a little street cred (incidentally why is no one going on about the dude who actually saw the inside of the white house getting droned?). Both were good for business.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

There is no real difference tbh. I seriously hope Trump isn't serious about bombing ancient ruins, that is ISIS-tier.

 

[Shield Breaker]

To be honest I wish he wasn’t banned despite he’s ranting about da joos. He’s an actual Iranian so he’s perspective on things would’ve been interesting.

Just put this on loop

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad scene from team america

youtu.be

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I don't believe they do. They have just been indoctrinated to hate Trump so much, they would honestly see half of the US dead, if it meant they could act all smug on Twitter.

That having been said, the neoconservatives and rabid Trump supporters are finally finding some common ground...in another useless Middle East war.

What Trump should do is actually get out of the Middle East all together, we have little legitimate business over there, but I don't think he will...the deep state really wants this war.

We aren't going to war with Iran. We'll lob some precision strike bombs and that's it.

Basically anything that positively furthers the interests of the state abroad. Domestic interests as you know go far beyond security. Even on that front it is far less safe for American tourists (western tourists in general) to prance around the world in 2019 vs 2000 for example. And before you begin, no, Israeli interests are not US interests. Different populations with different needs and goals.

1. Repealing NAFTA and replacing it with the USMCA.
2. Pulling out of the Paris Agreement.
3. Making historic progress in peace between North and South Korea.
4. Pulling troops out of Syria.
5. Pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal.

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

There is no real difference tbh. I seriously hope Trump isn't serious about bombing ancient ruins, that is ISIS-tier.

I'll just quote @It's HK-47 here:

Probably because none of these were strikes at Iran as a whole--just the Mullahs--his poll numbers aren't tanking and he's having no trouble setting the stage for re-election. It's really not much of a comparison. These are very specific, very high-priority targets that have been on the world's shit-list for more than a decade. What was the alternative option? Allow these terrorist organizers to walk away consequence-free from a premeditated attack on a U.S. embassy?

Iran knew exactly what it was doing by staging that attack. What Iran didn't expect was that in response, America would immediately leap straight over an old-school "boots on the ground" approach and instead choose to specifically target their leadership. What Iran did to our embassy easily qualifies as a declaration of war. Instead of a war, America just mangled their generals.

I'm a much bigger fan of this approach instead of mounting some sort of post-9/11 Clusterfuck 2.0.

 

[MrTickles]

The interesting thing about him mentioning cultural sites is that it's technically a war crime. It's Trumps way of basically telling them if they keep fucking with him he doesn't care about the rules. In this situation "cultural sites" is a euphemism targeted strikes against the senior political leadership of the country. "I'm not afraid to war crime you and the UN aint gonna help" drives home the point that the old rules are out the window all their calculations based off of those rules on what America will do and what they can get away with are gone with it.

This is now a PR war more than anything else. If they launch a hundred rockets at a base and he yeets a handful of mullahs in response, he won that round. Short of sinking an aircraft carrier there isn't anything they can do to win any individual round of exchanges because he's not constraining himself like they expected him to. Hell if they did sink a carrier there is a 50/50 chance he would actually nuke them.

I came here to address this. You basically just said it in your first paragraph. Disagree with the rest. Even the nazis and america during ww2's fire-bombing of japan avoided cultural sites. This is not a good thing to say in public on the part of Trumpkins. He has so many enemies at home it could end with him in front of some sort of court after he completes his terms and is no longer protected.

1. Repealing NAFTA and replacing it with the USMCA.

Could be good or bad, too early to tell.

2. Pulling out of the Paris Agreement.

Could be good or bad, too early to tell. And at the cost of global influence. Relations between america and Europe have sunk to record lows.

3. Making historic progress in peace between North and South Korea.

Never happened. North korea's nuclear arsenal and ballistic missile programs (directed at US) continue to grow. North Korea's existential threat towards the Us continues to grow.

4. Pulling troops out of Syria.

Never happened. Thousands of US troops and contractors still in Syria.

5. Pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal.

Ah yes, energy...And now Iran is restarting its nuclear program. This is good for America how? It also further soured relations between Us and countries such as Germany. Nord stream from Russia to Germany pipeline is nearing completion, Us has been doing everything short of bombing it to stop it, including sanctioning German companies. Success how? Us has upped production and consumption of oil at home. How is this going to help it catch up with China's already superior renewable technology sector?

Sigh.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

Obama 2012 was in the business of dismantling middle eastern governments and a lot of people had their eye on iran along with libya, syria and the like.

Trump is just going tit for tat to stop Iran from attacking us. we're not funding proxy armies to fight it out in Tehran. It's purely defensive and if Iran stopped fucking around, we'd stop bombing them.

 

[Cripple]

‘Dumbest man in Iran’: Thomas Friedman mocks Qassem Soleimani

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman asserted Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani showed ineptitude in his efforts to prop up Iran.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Dumbest man in Iran’: Thomas Friedman mocks Qassem Soleimani

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman asserted Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani showed ineptitude in his efforts to prop up Iran.


Friedman mocked the military leader, who was killed Thursday in a U.S. drone strike, as a “military genius” who drove his country into the ground as he sought to broaden Iran’s power in the Middle East.

“One day they may name a street after President Trump in Tehran. Why? Because Trump just ordered the assassination of possibly the dumbest man in Iran and the most overrated strategist in the Middle East,” Friedman wrote of Soleimani.

Friedman said the leader of the Quds Force miscalculated after the Iran nuclear deal when he and Iran’s supreme leader sought control through their proxies of several cities in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen. U.S. allies urged the Trump administration to respond to Iran’s actions, and the deal, which Friedman referred to as a “great deal” for Iran, was eventually revoked by Trump.

The deal agreed to by the Obama administration and Iran in 2015 lifted sanctions on the country and helped grow its economy. When the Trump administration reinforced the sanctions, Iran raised its gas prices, prompting massive protests and brutal crackdowns, “further weakening the legitimacy of the regime,” Friedman wrote.


“Today’s Iran is the heir to a great civilization and the home of an enormously talented people and significant culture. Wherever Iranians go in the world today, they thrive as scientists, doctors, artists, writers and filmmakers — except in the Islamic Republic of Iran, whose most famous exports are suicide bombing, cyberterrorism and proxy militia leaders. The very fact that Suleimani was probably the most famous Iranian in the region speaks to the utter emptiness of this regime, and how it has wasted the lives of two generations of Iranians by looking for dignity in all the wrong places and in all the wrong ways,” the columnist wrote.

Soleimani’s proxies prevented any of the countries they inhabited from developing infrastructure such as schools, roads, and electricity, Friedman said, leading Soleimani’s “kingmakers” to be hated in the region “even more so than Trump’s America.”

Friedman also said that when Soleimani confronted Israel, he was unprepared for the strength of Israeli forces, and even though he helped fight the Islamic State, he was responsible for its rise by Iran’s overreach in Iraq.

Well since I had to sign in to read H&A I migth as well say I think alot of Iranians are having private celebrations of that bastard's death. It wasn't like Ghandi was assassinated this guy killed everyone who disagreed with him.

 

[Cryonic Haunted Bullets]

When the archduke was shot, it wasnt frontpage news and it took a month before the war started.
Four year later, fourty million people were dead and century-old empires were toppled.
Personally I think this wont be much except for a few airstrikes, but its too early to say.

in other news

Sentinel on Twitter

“Fire can be seen in the distance after reports of airstrikes near Al-Bukamal and #Iraq https://t.co/qJQiMigpzN”

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Dont know how true this is but it could be another step on the ladder of escalation.

Here's another tidbit that's more relevant to this story: during the Islamic Revolution of 1979, thousands of members of the Iranian upper class fled to Western Europe, where they stayed in hotels, eagerly awaiting the Shah's return any day now. Most of them are still there, with no intention of going back.

Trying to predict geopolitics is stupid, and everything looks obvious in hindsight.

Didn't Obama drop drone strikes in 2013 and got shit for it? And didn't Trump get critical with Obama's stance on Iran in 2012? What is the difference, mind you?

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed, and Twitter is sad because brown people.

Shut up, libtard. Orange man smart. Orange man consistent. You're just not on the same ascended intellectual plane as he is.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

I will say that he did not say he would hit "cultural target," He said he would hit targets important to the Iranian culture. Is the Iranian capital building important to Iranian culture? I would say so.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

It seems like boomers are happy that Muslims were bombed

God, I can't believe I'm about to stand up for fucking Baby Boombers, but...

In the 70's and 80's every time you turned around something was being hijacked, taken hostage, screaming Death to America. There was the PLO, Iran, Libya all over the news all the fucking time. Truck bombs, airplanes exploding or getting hijacked, shit like that.

That's what Boomers remember. Constantly hearing Carter and other Dems say we couldn't attack. The failure of Operation Eagle Claw. Reagan's betrayal of his anti-terrorism stance when the Iran-Contra Affair came out.

When a Boomer thinks of terrorism, believe it or not, 9/11 is either barely first or a close second to the thought of Iran. A lot of Boomers fucking HATE Iran. The 70's and 80's it appeared, and people felt, like the Iranians just did whatever the fuck they wanted, blew up whatever the fuck they wanted, yelled "DEATH TO AMERICA!" and then the politicians sucked their dick for oil.

Now a lot of this is PERCEPTION, not clinical perfection of the facts of who actually did what.

When you say PLO they think "Yassar Arafat, that fucking scumbag that Iran armed and financed."
When you say Hezbollah they think "Those fuckers that Iran has been financing, training, and arming."
Hell, if frankly a lot of Boomers wouldn't have been surprised if Bush JR had invaded Iran instead of Iraq in 2003.

Then hearing that a lot of the problems putting Iraq back together, and the deaths and injuries of US personnel, are because of Iran's hiding behind Iraqi insurgents and giggling, that just pushes that little "IRAN BAD!" button in their brains.

I can see Boomers being happy Iran is finally getting shoved back. When the think of terrorism, their instinctive knee-jerk is "Fucking Iran..."

A lot of older Gen-X are the same way.

40 years of "DEATH TO AMERICA!" rhetoric sunk into Boomer and older Gen-X brains. So now that Trump is going "No, you know what, FUCK YOU!" back at them instead of sending Cash & Kerry to them, it tickles the "fucking finally" response.

Not that I agree with that kind of ingrained lizard brain reflex because it removes nuance and can shift the blame from the actual actors in an event, but I do understand where it can be coming from.

 

[Sanshain]

And now Iran is restarting its nuclear program. This is good for America how?

They never stopped. They've been caught many, many, many times trying to set up their own weapons-grade nuclear enrichment programs, and they flouted the restrictions of the deal so openly and flagrantly that I'm astonished even a hardcore Democrat president could argue it had any functional value with a straight face.

 

[HeyYou]

I came here to address this. You basically just said it in your first paragraph. Disagree with the rest. Even the nazis and america during ww2's fire-bombing of japan avoided cultural sites. This is not a good thing to say in public on the part of Trumpkins. He has so many enemies at home it could end with him in front of some sort of court after he completes his terms and is no longer protected.

Nigger, are you fucking serious right now? Him tweeting that is going to land him in court? How delusional do you have to be to believe that?