Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Least Concern]

Learless Feeder just started a new thread about the assault: Vincent Canfeld assaulted at 36C3 after dispute with Michael Hirdes / Dodger

 

[Marvin]

What's the deal with using women as security guards. Dodger going full on techno-Manson?

Men with honor won't hit a woman, I'm guessing is at least part of it.

 

[Judge Dredd]

More from Godot.

The story so far... A discord admin used the engine announcement section to promote a poll about how gamers are sexist. There was backlash from the users that led to the admin losing their powers. This resulted in the staff creating a code of conduct and all the usual sperging that you've seen a bunch in this thread.

Recently, they banned pepe emojis and tried to ban the ok emoji. It is my guess they did this over Christmas in order to minimize backlash.

Since then, there has been some complaints about it, leading to one of the admins saying this.

 

[Vecr]

More from Godot.

The story so far... A discord admin used the engine announcement section to promote a poll about how gamers are sexist. There was backlash from the users that led to the admin losing their powers. This resulted in the staff creating a code of conduct and all the usual sperging that you've seen a bunch in this thread.

Recently, they banned pepe emojis and tried to ban the ok emoji. It is my guess they did this over Christmas in order to minimize backlash.

Since then, there has been some complaints about it, leading to one of the admins saying this.

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Yeah, right, the alt-right is going to commit genocide, sure...

Also, the hammer and sickle is also a post-genocide symbol, are they banning that?

 

[Least Concern]

Stack Overflow has posted "an agreement with Monica Cellio" which has a bit of an air of "oh god please don't sue us can we please just get this over with" about it. The community is reacting pretty much the same as it has before. (It's over a week old now, but it went under my radar until now.)

 

[ditto]

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Interesting that they've lawyered up over this. Are imaginary internet points worth that much?

 

[️ronic]

More from Godot.

The story so far... A discord admin used the engine announcement section to promote a poll about how gamers are sexist. There was backlash from the users that led to the admin losing their powers. This resulted in the staff creating a code of conduct and all the usual sperging that you've seen a bunch in this thread.

Recently, they banned pepe emojis and tried to ban the ok emoji. It is my guess they did this over Christmas in order to minimize backlash.

Since then, there has been some complaints about it, leading to one of the admins saying this.

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It's gotta be terrible seeing the alt-right boogeyman in every image you see. That pill for your avatar is half red, Xanax, I think the alt-right has already perpetrated your brain at this point. Might as well have it removed since you don't use it anyways.

 

[AnOminous]

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Interesting that they've lawyered up over this. Are imaginary internet points worth that much?

They've defamed her as a racist in a field where that can be career ending. She was going to sue them and had already collected almost $25,000 to fund it.

I really don't see much of a future for StackOverflow at this point. It used to be you could get some clout by being helpful, but now, you can put years into contributing to the community only for these snakes and scorpions to turn around and try to destroy you for absolutely no reason. SJW cancer destroys every community.

 

[Least Concern]

They've defamed her as a racist in a field where that can be career ending. She was going to sue them and had already collected almost $25,000 to fund it.

I really don't see much of a future for StackOverflow at this point. It used to be you could get some clout by being helpful, but now, you can put years into contributing to the community only for these snakes and scorpions to turn around and try to destroy you for absolutely no reason. SJW cancer destroys every community.

I don't know. I haven't yet seen this have any effect on the day-to-day operation of SE in terms of its pages appearing near the top of SERPs for pretty much any "how to do X with computer" query. If it weren't for this thread, I probably wouldn't have known that this whole thing was happening at all. It's like how the president having a spat with his cabinet secretary isn't going to affect the liquor store on the corner very much. I think SE has enough size and activity now that it can probably coast right through this, hopefully learning some lessons along the way.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't know. I haven't yet seen this have any effect on the day-to-day operation of SE in terms of its pages appearing near the top of SERPs for pretty much any "how to do X with computer" query. If it weren't for this thread, I probably wouldn't have known that this whole thing was happening at all. It's like how the president having a spat with his cabinet secretary isn't going to affect the liquor store on the corner very much. I think SE has enough size and activity now that it can probably coast right through this, hopefully learning some lessons along the way.

You think the people trying to destroy it are just going to stop here and not do this again?

 

[Least Concern]

You think the people trying to destroy it are just going to stop here and not do this again?

Well, I mean, maybe? They utterly failed; the majority of the community rejected their policies and soundly sided with Cellio after she was smeared, and is now probably on its guard for more nonsense. And just as with Vic Mignogna and Richard Meyer, things escalated until lawyers were involved; there's a clear message now that Internet smear campaigns can have an IRL financial risk.

But like I said, even if they had been successful to some degree, I don't think it would have any noticeable effect on the day-to-day operation of the site, at least in the short term.

 

[AnOminous]

But like I said, even if they had been successful to some degree, I don't think it would have any noticeable effect on the day-to-day operation of the site, at least in the short term.

The long term is what ultimately matters, though. It's not like search results of SE are just instantly going to stop having useful results, but where the issue is coding and tech stuff in general, that stuff ages and you end up needing information on stuff that currently exists. This kind of toxicity is, in the long term, pretty discouraging to people contemplating being helpful to others.

 

[ZMOT]

there's a clear message now that Internet smear campaigns can have an IRL financial risk.

which was always the case, so it's not like they cared much about it before. and if you look at some of those tards and how they think they're above the law, this won't have much effect either.
plus as @AnOminous described that form of rot fucks you one way or another, it doesn't even have to be public. I'd wager most of the public spergfests are just a tip of the iceberg anyway, the rest happens behind closed door and on a smaller scale where no one gives a fuck (see the whole debian debacle).

 

[AnOminous]

which was always the case, so it's not like they cared much about it before. and if you look at some of those tards and how they think they're above the law, this won't have much effect either.
plus as @AnOminous described that form of rot fucks you one way or another, it doesn't even have to be public. I'd wager most of the public spergfests are just a tip of the iceberg anyway, the rest happens behind closed door and on a smaller scale where no one gives a fuck (see the whole debian debacle).

Note how even Linus Torvalds has basically been removed and unpersoned.

 

[Eigengrau]

What's the deal with using women as security guards. Dodger going full on techno-Manson?

All I can think of is the "hire more female guards" meme.

 

[moocow]

They've defamed her as a racist in a field where that can be career ending. She was going to sue them and had already collected almost $25,000 to fund it.

I really don't see much of a future for StackOverflow at this point. It used to be you could get some clout by being helpful, but now, you can put years into contributing to the community only for these snakes and scorpions to turn around and try to destroy you for absolutely no reason. SJW cancer destroys every community.

It's overflowing with shitty pajeet code now anyway. What value it had as a tech resource has been whittling away for years.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

Note how even Linus Torvalds has basically been removed and unpersoned.

Corey Ehmke's proudest moment.

 

[Safir]

Well, I mean, maybe? They utterly failed; the majority of the community rejected their policies and soundly sided with Cellio after she was smeared, and is now probably on its guard for more nonsense.

Who failed? Monica was unpersoned for asking clarifying questions about the then-upcoming troon CoC. Very few people (notably, Christianity's founder and mod Caleb) objected to the CoC; it's now in effect. They might reinstate her; if they do, she'll have to toe the line and her posts will be analyzed for frequency of pronoun usage. As of now, she'd have to apply for reinstatement and by that agree with the accusatory language in SE's statements. Going forward, unpersoning mods will be replaced by ritual humiliation where they get on their knees and promise to do better and educate themselves. SE corporate won, troons won, sanity lost.

 

[awoo]

Who failed? Monica was unpersoned for asking clarifying questions about the then-upcoming troon CoC. Very few people (notably, Christianity's founder and mod Caleb) objected to the CoC; it's now in effect. They might reinstate her; if they do, she'll have to toe the line and her posts will be analyzed for frequency of pronoun usage. As of now, she'd have to apply for reinstatement and by that agree with the accusatory language in SE's statements. Going forward, unpersoning mods will be replaced by ritual humiliation where they get on their knees and promise to do better and educate themselves. SE corporate won, troons won, sanity lost.

Did you miss the part about the lawsuit? Antisemitism is not good PR.

 

[419]

This is some funny shit. Just went to Physics Stack Exchange to find out some objective factual science shit and right there in the sidebar is an apology to the LGBtranny community and a thing about gender pronouns. Like fuck?

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What's next - you gotta learn about girldick before you can use Matlab?

implying half the indians still using stackoverflow know what a pronoun is