Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Mako_Spark]

If there’s any way to blame Jazz’s eventual suicide on “transphobes,” ie if Jazz doesn’t make it clear he regrets it all and feels betrayed by the medical community and his family, then they’ll go that way.

Even if Jazz detransitions, somehow becomes the manliest man possible, and screams it from the rooftops that what happened to him was insane and backwards and mutilation and child abuse aided and abetted by his parents and a television network, it won't matter. Even if he joins the 41% because no one will listen to 'detrans' Jazz, it won't matter. It will always be spun as 'Jazz was just a pure little girl born in a boy's body in a cruel, cruel world that hates trans people,' and 'transphobia' will be the official cause of all his future problems/death, because once you're in, you belong to the 'trans narrative' and that story doesn't allow for regrets or even just critical thinking, it's all rainbows and mermaids when you're trans!

He could honestly go on national TV, say "I've cut all ties with my family, I'm going to try to live like a man as much as is possible, oh and btw I had huge doubts about transition from a really early age but there was all this pressure from my parents, and then the TV show, and being a 'trans kid' hero..." and the TRAs would screech either "See! He says he was never really trans, so he's not really detrans now" or the other classic, "we all know in his heart he's trans, he just couldn't keep living as his true self with all the 87 million hate crimes we face every day,' [insert number of murdered trans POC and sex workers here, oh but don't forget to add at least one 0 at the end] as if Jazz has anything in common with a homeless black prostitute who finally meets a man not at all turned on by the 'trap.'

(Honestly, if you haven't done a little searching, see for yourself how much the trans community hates 'detrans' people or those with regrets, even people who have zero intention of 'warning' anyone away from transition... the trannies just do not want them to exist. In some cases, they won't let them exist (scientific studies into regret have been defunded after protests, etc.)

 

[GenociderSyo]

(Honestly, if you haven't done a little searching, see for yourself how much the trans community hates 'detrans' people or those with regrets, even people who have zero intention of 'warning' anyone away from transition... the trannies just do not want them to exist. In some cases, they won't let them exist (scientific studies into regret have been defunded after protests, etc.)

Can confirm the shit about the studies, had a proposal denied when I wanted to do research on the current surge of "transgender" children. Was told that transgender is a protected population and that the harm outweights the benefits in any types of studies done with them.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Can confirm the shit about the studies, had a proposal denied when I wanted to do research on the current surge of "transgender" children. Was told that transgender is a protected population and that the harm outweights the benefits in any types of studies done with them.

well that just reinforces the fact that this is a mental disorder. Can you imagine med researchers being told you cant do a study on heart surgery because it would be harmful and not helpful to the protected status of patients?

im curious to hear yalls thoughts on this unusual transgender case. The schappel sisters are twins who are conjoined at the head. They were born in 1961, named lori and dori and mostly raised in institutions. Lori is ablebodied while dori has spina bifida and is disabled and must be transported by using a wheeled barstool type of deal with lori pushing it. Neither has married although lori did have a fiance who died in an auto accident.

Meanwhile dori changed her name to reba and wanted to be a country singer and did have a very minor short career, mostly based on her unusual story. Then in 2007 dori/ reba decided she is a man and always has been and changed her name to george.

Im trying to figure what this means to the transgender world. Since they are genetically identical, then being trans isnt a genetic thing which we already saw in cases of identical twins where one is trans and the other not. They have never been apart (obviously) so their life experiences have pretty much been the same so it doesnt seem to be something that was triggered by life experiences or how they were raised.

It seems to be a definite mental thing. Dori/reba/george is the demanding one, although they have the least physical abilities. Due to being conjoined george can never take hormones without it affecting lori. Poor lori tries to live a normal life, even held a job, held the microphone for george when he was singing. Meanwhile george was an asshole who demanded that lori buy a ticket to every concert george performed even though obviously lori had to be there.

I dunno, its a superweird transgender story, which is say a lot as transgenders usually have really bizarre story anyway.

Their wikipedia page:

Lori and George Schappell - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

their music video:

"Fear of Being Alone" by Reba Schappell (BETTER QUALITY)

Her cover of Reba McEntire's song.

www.youtube.com

 

[Spastic Colon]

well that just reinforces the fact that this is a mental disorder. Can you imagine med researchers being told you cant do a study on heart surgery because it would be harmful and not helpful to the protected status of patients?

im curious to hear yalls thoughts on this unusual transgender case. The schappel sisters are twins who are conjoined at the head. They were born in 1961, named lori and dori and mostly raised in institutions. Lori is ablebodied while dori has spina bifida and is disabled and must be transported by using a wheeled barstool type of deal with lori pushing it. Neither has married although lori did have a fiance who died in an auto accident.

Meanwhile dori changed her name to reba and wanted to be a country singer and did have a very minor short career, mostly based on her unusual story. Then in 2007 dori/ reba decided she is a man and always has been and changed her name to george.

Im trying to figure what this means to the transgender world. Since they are genetically identical, then being trans isnt a genetic thing which we already saw in cases of identical twins where one is trans and the other not. They have never been apart (obviously) so their life experiences have pretty much been the same so it doesnt seem to be something that was triggered by life experiences or how they were raised.

It seems to be a definite mental thing. Dori/reba/george is the demanding one, although they have the least physical abilities. Due to being conjoined george can never take hormones without it affecting lori. Poor lori tries to live a normal life, even held a job, held the microphone for george when he was singing. Meanwhile george was an asshole who demanded that lori buy a ticket to every concert george performed even though obviously lori had to be there.

I dunno, its a superweird transgender story, which is say a lot as transgenders usually have really bizarre story anyway.

Their wikipedia page:

Lori and George Schappell - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

their music video:

"Fear of Being Alone" by Reba Schappell (BETTER QUALITY)

Her cover of Reba McEntire's song.

www.youtube.com

Sounds like one of them trooned out for attention. Fits with the whole "demanding personality" thing. Can you imagine living with a narc, but the narc is attached to your body and you can never, ever get away? Poor Lori. Morbid thought, but what happens if one of them dies? Can they separate them or are they both going out at the same time?

 

[IBrokeBob]

Sounds like one of them trooned out for attention. Fits with the whole "demanding personality" thing. Can you imagine living with a narc, but the narc is attached to your body and you can never, ever get away? Poor Lori. Morbid thought, but what happens if one of them dies? Can they separate them or are they both going out at the same time?

There is no way to separate them as their skulls are very conjoined. I guess they could try since the surviving twin would die anyway but i think med studies of them indicate that the surviving twin would be left with severe brain damage.

its definitely a godawful way to live with a narc who is never happy and depends on you to do absolutely everything for them. Lori seems well grounded and tries to just live a normal life while the narc is always demanding to have their way. Lori had to take time off work to travel with reba when she was pursuing her country singer delusions. Poor lori had to put up with hours of reba caterwalling mere inches from her ear. Somehow she tunes it out..

I agree that dorirebageorge is desperate for attention. Its a pretty sad situation, made all the worse by the narc behaviors inflicted on lori who can never escape and must forever carry and care for the narc.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

We already have a known case of a person who was forced to transition by a shady doctor, who tried to become his own sex again, and then killed himself: David Reiner.

People didn't listen back then and won't listen even now. Articles about him only say how sad and tragic his life was, but never actually mention what caused it. Whenever he's mentioned, many pro-Trans people act like they heard nothing. Money's work with Reiner is the base for many current gender studies and people still won't acknowledge that Reiner's case was a complete failure and a disaster because their lives and identities depend on believing it.

Ordinary people will understand how Jazz was a victim. The Rat Kings and academics will do as they always do and deny reality because they don't want to lose their jobs and relevance as experts. It's gonna be hilarious when we have people like Zinnia Jones being on TV saying "Jazz was a normal person, just as normal as I am!" only for people to google and find all his pictures with all sizes of dildos stuffed in his ass. Normies will realise the T movement is full of pedophiles, sexual degenerates, and abusive men in wigs because these are the people that the movement has chosen to feature as spokespeople rather than the normal folks who were always against this type of child abuse.

 

[GenociderSyo]

well that just reinforces the fact that this is a mental disorder. Can you imagine med researchers being told you cant do a study on heart surgery because it would be harmful and not helpful to the protected status of patients?

im curious to hear yalls thoughts on this unusual transgender case. The schappel sisters are twins who are conjoined at the head. They were born in 1961, named lori and dori and mostly raised in institutions. Lori is ablebodied while dori has spina bifida and is disabled and must be transported by using a wheeled barstool type of deal with lori pushing it. Neither has married although lori did have a fiance who died in an auto accident.

Meanwhile dori changed her name to reba and wanted to be a country singer and did have a very minor short career, mostly based on her unusual story. Then in 2007 dori/ reba decided she is a man and always has been and changed her name to george.

Im trying to figure what this means to the transgender world. Since they are genetically identical, then being trans isnt a genetic thing which we already saw in cases of identical twins where one is trans and the other not. They have never been apart (obviously) so their life experiences have pretty much been the same so it doesnt seem to be something that was triggered by life experiences or how they were raised.

It seems to be a definite mental thing. Dori/reba/george is the demanding one, although they have the least physical abilities. Due to being conjoined george can never take hormones without it affecting lori. Poor lori tries to live a normal life, even held a job, held the microphone for george when he was singing. Meanwhile george was an asshole who demanded that lori buy a ticket to every concert george performed even though obviously lori had to be there.

I dunno, its a superweird transgender story, which is say a lot as transgenders usually have really bizarre story anyway.

Their wikipedia page:

Lori and George Schappell - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

their music video:

"Fear of Being Alone" by Reba Schappell (BETTER QUALITY)

Her cover of Reba McEntire's song.

www.youtube.com

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness no one denies that except people who wish to force this on others and it used to be required to have a diagnosis of such to transition. Sadly any study can biased or misguided be it psychological or medical, thats why you learn to read the alpha and signifcance as well as any conflicts of interest they declare and those they do not.

Wow to the Schappels saw a documentary on them back in 1998 and a few others after that, doesn't seem that she trooned out until the fad began. They refuse to discuss seperation and it may be possible for them, they have two distinct brain and nervous systems though one has spina bifida.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Gender dysphoria is a mental illness no one denies that except people who wish to force this on others and it used to be required to have a diagnosis of such to transition. Sadly any study can biased or misguided be it psychological or medical, thats why you learn to read the alpha and signifcance as well as any conflicts of interest they declare and those they do not.

Wow to the Schappels saw a documentary on them back in 1998 and a few others after that, doesn't seem that she trooned out until the fad began. They refuse to discuss seperation and it may be possible for them, they have two distinct brain and nervous systems though one has spina bifida.

They apparently have different circulatory systems as one can drink and the other not be affected. They have separate brains yet they are reported to have a shared frontal lobe, so i am not sure exactly how that works. They are now almost 60 years old so its doubtful such a surgery would even be attempted.

 

[Spastic Colon]

They apparently have different circulatory systems as one can drink and the other not be affected. They have separate brains yet they are reported to have a shared frontal lobe, so i am not sure exactly how that works. They are now almost 60 years old so its doubtful such a surgery would even be attempted.

I know this will sound heartless, but I would rather be dead than live like that for 60 years. God bless 'em that they've been able to deal with it, but I couldn't do it.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

The Schappels - I'd have said social contagion if Reba were younger and decided to troon out in the last couple of years, but apparently the troondom occured 12 years ago when it really wasn't a thing at all.

Interestingly, Reba became a Mormon in 2006. Decided to identify as a bloke in 2007. Coincidental? Maybe Reba had gay feelings and being a man officially in name and identity makes fancying women OK again? Or maybe Reba just reckons she's a freak who has never had a chance at fitting in as an attractive woman anyway and decided to do it for the hell of it.

There's a pair of identical twin sisters - Jaclyn and Jennifer Grafe - who recently got their tits chopped off and transitioned. Gory post-masectomy pics were posted online as a kind of victory parade. It didn't suprise me that apparently they were both a)lesbian and b)brought up in a strict rel'gious, conservative Christian household. Now, sans tits and on T, they can happily date ladies as 'men' guilt-free at officially not being women and thus gay anymore. Success! This is the logic we're dealing with in quite a lot of cases of young girls trooning out - absolute panic at the thought of being lesbian and thinking transing into a boy will make them the same as any other heterosexual who dates girls.

As children, the twins often dressed in boy clothing and felt attraction towards female classmates.
But their strict upbringing and religious schooling kept them from expressing their true feelings.

It wasn’t until the boys were 15 and decided to dress as male characters for cosplay conventions that they acknowledged it “felt natural” - before coming out to each other as gay a year later.

Now, both brothers are in serious relationships with female partners - a topic of conversation they’d originally been wary of having.

“It was even hard to tell each other that we liked girls, but when I told Jace and asked if he would have a different opinion of he he was like: ‘No, I feel the same way,’” Jack said. “When he said ‘me too’ I felt relieved and not alone anymore. It was scary. I was honestly terrified.”

I mean, it's obvious. I'm convinced a lot of these parents who decide their young sons are 'trans' have seen interests that suggest they may be on the feminine side of things, which they read as gay, and they think they can fix that by trooning them out. Jazz's mother even admits reading 'feminine' interests in the boy, which she translated as 'clearly a girl then' because she's a nutjob.

 

[OttoWest]

Interestingly, Reba became a Mormon in 2006. Decided to identify as a bloke in 2007. Coincidental? Maybe Reba had gay feelings and being a man officially in name and identity makes fancying women OK again? Or maybe Reba just reckons she's a freak who has never had a chance at fitting in as an attractive woman anyway and decided to do it for the hell of it.

Sounds like Lori is simply more susceptible to cults and fads and is lacking a central sense of identity. Think about it— she changed her name to Reba when she embarked on her music career. That’s not a homage to McEntire, that’s transference.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I mean, it's obvious. I'm convinced a lot of these parents who decide their young sons are 'trans' have seen interests that suggest they may be on the feminine side of things, which they read as gay, and they think they can fix that by trooning them out. Jazz's mother even admits reading 'feminine' interests in the boy, which she translated as 'clearly a girl then' because she's a nutjob.

Isn't this what they do in Iran (or a similar country) and stupid woke people believe it to be "free sex change by government, yays!"? They punish homosexuals by changing them into women otherwise, you're dead.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Isn't this what they do in Iran (or a similar country) and stupid woke people believe it to be "free sex change by government, yays!"? They punish homosexuals by changing them into women otherwise, you're dead.

Yes. In Iran, gender reassignment is basically the gay cure.

Khomeni passed a fatwa in the mid-eighties concerning gender reassigment surgery, making it religiously acceptable. He was apparently persuaded into this by a wannbe MTF who later got the surgery. So actual gender dyphorics can get surgery instead of a stoning, but the very unwoke attitudes to gays and lesbians who aren't Islamically gender-conforming means they basically get pressured into it by families and doctors.

The state erasure of gays and lesbians into acceptable sharia-compliant formats is why eight out of twelve of the Iranian women's football team are men. Also because they like cheating. I love how the article suggests the real problem is the men are pre-transition. Because we all know biomen competing in women's sports once they're on hormones have no natural advantages, right?

And yes, idiot wokist apologists for anyone not white and/or Christian manage to convince themselves this somehow makes Iran 'progressive' in some way or other. LOL. Tell that to the gay men swinging by their necks from cranes.

 

[Munchie_Minder]

well that just reinforces the fact that this is a mental disorder. Can you imagine med researchers being told you cant do a study on heart surgery because it would be harmful and not helpful to the protected status of patients?

im curious to hear yalls thoughts on this unusual transgender case. The schappel sisters are twins who are conjoined at the head. They were born in 1961, named lori and dori and mostly raised in institutions. Lori is ablebodied while dori has spina bifida and is disabled and must be transported by using a wheeled barstool type of deal with lori pushing it. Neither has married although lori did have a fiance who died in an auto accident.

Meanwhile dori changed her name to reba and wanted to be a country singer and did have a very minor short career, mostly based on her unusual story. Then in 2007 dori/ reba decided she is a man and always has been and changed her name to george.

Im trying to figure what this means to the transgender world. Since they are genetically identical, then being trans isnt a genetic thing which we already saw in cases of identical twins where one is trans and the other not. They have never been apart (obviously) so their life experiences have pretty much been the same so it doesnt seem to be something that was triggered by life experiences or how they were raised.

It seems to be a definite mental thing. Dori/reba/george is the demanding one, although they have the least physical abilities. Due to being conjoined george can never take hormones without it affecting lori. Poor lori tries to live a normal life, even held a job, held the microphone for george when he was singing. Meanwhile george was an asshole who demanded that lori buy a ticket to every concert george performed even though obviously lori had to be there.

I dunno, its a superweird transgender story, which is say a lot as transgenders usually have really bizarre story anyway.

Their wikipedia page:

Lori and George Schappell - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

their music video:

"Fear of Being Alone" by Reba Schappell (BETTER QUALITY)

Her cover of Reba McEntire's song.

www.youtube.com

Damn, I didn’t know about the last part of the Lori/Dori story. I was intrigued with their story back when I first started researching genetics. My hot take is that George likes attention and is a narc asshole. Imagine having to live your entire life literally connected to a narc abuser. The whole thing about making her buy a ticket is insane. People who went to the shows were there for the freak show aspect, not the music.

It really doesn’t make a difference whether we label it as a mental disorder or not. Being trans is either a subset of dysphoria or something about how the secondary set of DNA experiences something and modifies the primary DNA. Every “mental disorder” has a root in something biological. This makes not researching it a crime as we can’t know how to treat it if we don’t know what works best.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

It's gonna be hilarious when we have people like Zinnia Jones being on TV saying "Jazz was a normal person, just as normal as I am!" only for people to google and find all his pictures with all sizes of dildos stuffed in his ass. Normies will realise the T movement is full of pedophiles, sexual degenerates, and abusive men in wigs because these are the people that the movement has chosen to feature as spokespeople rather than the normal folks who were always against this type of child abuse.

I've wondered before why so many troons who are "spokeswomen" are also outright degenerates. Anthony Wiener texted pictures of his dick and he was forever cast into the outer darkness, while your bog-standard troon "spokeswoman" tweets out BDSM schoolgirl hentai and nobody blinks.

It seems like part of the mental illness to have no sense of what is and isn't appropriate. Even poor, innocent Jazz asking people how deep their vaginas are seems like something a molested kid would ask people, not realizing that adults don't talk about those things in casual conversation.

But for the adults, being egregiously inappropriate is a feature and not an accident, and self-policing does not exist in the troon community. THEY WANT MEN TO BE ABLE TO FLASH THEIR DICKS AT UNSUSPECTING WOMEN AND KIDS. THIS IS THE GOAL.

 

[sperginity]

looks like the season premiere is january 28th.

 

[Spastic Colon]

I've wondered before why so many troons who are "spokeswomen" are also outright degenerates. Anthony Wiener texted pictures of his dick and he was forever cast into the outer darkness, while your bog-standard troon "spokeswoman" tweets out BDSM schoolgirl hentai and nobody blinks.

It seems like part of the mental illness to have no sense of what is and isn't appropriate. Even poor, innocent Jazz asking people how deep their vaginas are seems like something a molested kid would ask people, not realizing that adults don't talk about those things in casual conversation.

But for the adults, being egregiously inappropriate is a feature and not an accident, and self-policing does not exist in the troon community. THEY WANT MEN TO BE ABLE TO FLASH THEIR DICKS AT UNSUSPECTING WOMEN AND KIDS. THIS IS THE GOAL.

Wait, he asked about vagina depth? Like how are you supposed to know that? It's not like the gyno has a ruler she whips out to measure your capacity.

And yes, the ultimate goal is for everything -- and I mean everything -- to become an object that can be used for sex. Men, women, children, animals. Everything. Then we'll move on to the really horrifying stuff. There will never be a point too low in the degeneracy that will make some of these freaks stop. It's like a race to hell.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Wait, he asked about vagina depth? Like how are you supposed to know that? It's not like the gyno has a ruler she whips out to measure your capacity.

If you're a man getting a designer stink ditch, the surgeon can tell you exactly how long they can make it, apparently. Jazz was told hers was expected to be 7 inches in depth or whatever with the material available and bragged about it, then engaged female members of his family in a bizarre conversation about 'average vagina length' to see if he matched up. Not only does that sound like a simple analogue of the male obsession with dick size, but:

There are many differences between a troon stink ditch and an actual vagina and one of them is the real thing expands lengthwise as well as self-lubricates when the woman experiences sexual desire. Depending on your state of arousal, your vaginal passage can be longer or shorter at any one time. So women cannot - even if there were an easy way to measure it - engage in competitive vag measuring activity even if they wanted to.

TL;DR Yes, he did and he was acting like a typical male when he did it.

 

[Strong Tomato]

I recently caught up on this entire thread from the beginning and also binge watched a bit of the show, and I seriously had no idea how sad Jazz's story was. I was, and still am very uneducated about SRS in general so reading this thread was a huge fucking shocker and very intriguing. Reading through the thread and then watching some of the show just made it so easy to see through his mom's bullshit, it's kinda sad that a lot of people don't even realize what's really going on here and how dangerous this all is.

 

[NoReturn]

Guys I'm worried about Jazz. The Saved by the Bell reboot info just came out and there's another trans kid who just got cast as "The most popular girl in school". This wouldn't really matter, except aforementioned trans kid is younger and more feminine looking than Jazz AND said publicly that Jazz was the person who inspired their transition.

Jazz is barely an adult and already being replaced by a younger, "hotter" model.