Horrorcow Kristina Paige Klein / Krissy Klein / Klein Journey of Hope - Fundie Christian mom, turns her daughters into frankendolls with repeated brain surgeries, either MbP or worst case of taking dr's advice ever

I absolutely loathe cancer fakers. To see she’s a cancer faker on top of medically abusing her kids really gilds the fucking lily of outrage.

I knew someone IRL who faked cancer. When I heard she was starting treatment I pulled together a meal train and arranged for childcare and cleaning of her home. I went over to deposit a meal and give her house a good scrubbing on the day of her first treatment to find her in bed with gauze on her arm and claims that chemo had just been administered by a medic friend who “hooked her up” because she was uninsured.
I noped the fuck out of there and cancelled the meal train. I’ll refrain from too much more PL but I will say that illness fakers get really nasty and vindictive when called on their lies.

This woman is seriously mentally unwell. I mean I cringelaugh at the munchie thread because those people do it to themselves, but this thing gets away with ruining four kids.

Thing is, if her kids were taken away, she’d get them back through a vitriolic online campaign courtesy of sites like Medical Kidnap and others of that ilk. One or two doctors raising concern over these kids will not be able to compare to the legion of doctors who have played an active role in the destruction of their health. It will be a circle the wagon event on every angle and the kids will go right back to mama with a tearful, televised reunion.

I’m MATI.

Call it PL if you want... but I totally want to hear what happened when the illness faker you knew was confronted.

It's the "money shot" element of these stories I always want to see, but since that is generally the moment where they DFE, it's hard to witness it unless you're the actual confrontor. I have been cruelly denied so long. Actually, if anyone here has screenshots or accounts of the moment one of these idiots realizes they've been called out in a way there's no coming back from, regardless of who it was, I am so there to read it. There's nothing better than the deer-in-the-headlights expression and sudden rage of a fabricator caught fabricating.
 
The kid gets migraines, but I haven’t heard them talking about triptans for her, which work wonders. There is also a new migraine med out, that I don’t know much about but it’s for people who get more than 14 a month. And botox also helps. . Why they’d want to give a psychiatric drug before those things, I can only imagine is to give her ugly side effects.
Triptans don't work as a preventative and don't work for everyone. They're amazing for acute episodes for some people, but if someone's having chronic migraines, amitriptyline is a pretty standard preventative medication. At the doses they use for migraine prevention, which are much lower than for psychiatric use, the side effect profile isn't terrible. Maybe dry mouth or mild dizziness when standing up too quickly.
 
Looks like they are doing a gofundme so they can go to disney. Apparently a nephew is running this one and claims the family had no idea he did this ( sure jan). He is lamenting that the family got turned down for makeawish. Its been up 3 days and has a whopping $100 total, of the $2500 requested. Looks like people are tired of donating to these scammers.

 
Interesting that she was denied for Make A Wish- most of the time denials are because either the physician wouldn’t approve them for the program or because the wish is quite clearly the parent’s wish and not the child’s.
With her it’s probably both.
 
Looks like they are doing a gofundme so they can go to disney. Apparently a nephew is running this one and claims the family had no idea he did this ( sure jan). He is lamenting that the family got turned down for makeawish. Its been up 3 days and has a whopping $100 total, of the $2500 requested. Looks like people are tired of donating to these scammers.

I should have looked harder when that was posted, I assumed it was this one I found a while back. But no, it's a second person raising funds for the Kleins to take their kids to disney. JFC.
And her GFM for the car is still up for some reason, with not a single donation after the first disappeared.

And I'm a little late posting this, but Krissy wanted to remind everyone how their Christmas was ruined because of a mean doctor calling her a bad mommy. Completely out of character, krissy did not include their paypal link with this heart-wrenching post right before christmas, but their amazon wishlist isn't far behind.

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not saying she wouldn't be, just interesting to see dad jump in.


Then there's this, which makes me think there's a bit of tension between Krissy and Zach's family, here's his aunt trying to gently guide krissy toward allowing her children some independence and Krissy's response is 'kinda' - don't you remember they are all so very medically fragile and cannot do anything for themselves?
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As predicted, Krissy did not allow her children an illness/emergency free holiday.
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They only got to be happy until daddy went back to work.
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Despite no posts about being tested for the flu, Krissy says it caused Avee to have a seizure - coincidentally while daddy is away at work.
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Everyone looked okay for NYE
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Hours later, the kids are all sick, have pretty high fevers (according to Krissy's thermometer) I'm gonna guess this was right after daddy went back to work.
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And it wouldn't be Krissy if she didn't remind everyone about the kids surgery
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Jesus. This is essentially a psych-horror script that somehow spilled into real life. Put me off breakfast. Not sure which is the worse prospect: genuinely believing that she's helping, or being fully aware and doing it for the attention?
The way the illnesses seem to pop up or get WAY worse every time daddy goes to work makes me think she knows exactly what she's doing.

Sorry about your brekkie.
 
Everyone looked okay for NYE
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These kids look straight up miserable. We can tell from miles away that their smiles aren't legit ones and mommy had forced them to be happy for the camera... Just look at their expressions when caught in a ''spontaneous'' moment, the kid in the blue onesie looks like she wants to fucking die right there.
 
Looks like they are doing a gofundme so they can go to disney. Apparently a nephew is running this one and claims the family had no idea he did this ( sure jan). He is lamenting that the family got turned down for makeawish. Its been up 3 days and has a whopping $100 total, of the $2500 requested. Looks like people are tired of donating to these scammers.

Why is challen-ged spelled so weird.....it's almost like the entire go fund me script was copy and pasted....it's almost as if they've done this before.
 
Why is challen-ged spelled so weird.....it's almost like the entire go fund me script was copy and pasted....it's almost as if they've done this before.
looks like it was posted from a phone?
So say the kids were removed to safety, Would the girls still need to wear neck braces? Their spines are certainly messed up now. I need to know more about neurosurgery to keep up with the munchies.
They've been out of the neck braces for a while now.

If child services steps in, I believe the best option would be to just appoint a GAL to oversee all medical decisions, over taking 4 kids away who are all already permanent fucked, except for the youngest- he's the only one to escape major surgery, so far.
 
There's already a MbP accusation going, it's a matter of time hopefully until they get them out from under her.

these cases are personally gut wrenching and I'm hard to wrench. the seriousness of the surgeries puts this over the top.

the boys haven't had brain surgery- I'm wondering if the dad has been shielding them better.

I need to speak more on this.

chiari malformation is real- yet there can be inconclusive MRIs for it. I think that she's been undernourishing them for much longer than all this, possibly dating back to before any major medical intervention. Celiac is a common claim along MbP abusers. it allows them to control diet without suspicion, and to make the child afraid to eat normally.

this kind of psychological and physical abuse can cause a lot of issues- difficulty in eating/swallowing, bed wetting, all the signs are here.

the fact that even a boy has had a digestive surgery suggests to me that control is the underlying issue for her. that and the younger girl's "model career".

combine all of those things,with the slightest inconclusive result on an MRI and an overeager doctor, and you'll be able to get the surgeries seen here. being undernourished causes a lot of the symptoms, being abused this way causes them (including headaches).

I have worked on the aftermath of MbP cases. in one case, a sibling died and another did not (the death of one provoked enough investigation to prevent the death of the other). the surviving victim to this day has very similar problems as a survivor of child sexual abuse. the one who died had had about fifty surgeries, many diagnostic procedures, and showed clear evidence of having been given irritants through a parent-inserted feeding tube.

this thread is built of red flags.

in a way MbP is worse than sexual abuse. it's not only a bodily violation, a boundary violation, and physical, emotional abuse but also is usually accompanied by serious sadistic glee at the suffering caused by unnecessary procedures. CSA survivors can often recover with treatment, therapy. MbP survivors are often incapable of trusting any health care worker and so can never really get help to recover from it.

it's absolutely insidious and repulsive to hear about.

as far as stopping it: in the USA, religion dictates much of the law. until that changes, children will still be material objects owned by their parents. doctors will be unable to properly monitor and catch abusers like these. parents can over treat, insist on useless treatments, or remove suffering children from appropriate treatment on any whim. it's not good.

in this particular case suspicion is already raised, but it's luck that will save them. a hospital or doctor willing to kiss ass while installing cameras to catch her coaching the kids. someone educated enough to look back through the entire medical record. you'd need her permission for that, though. possibly one of the kids asking for help. at least these kids are not Jani and bodhi, unable to articulate what's being done to them. they may have a chance.

abuse thrives on secrets. allowing people to hide health records from new doctors is a bad idea. I have my issues with HIPAA, this being foremost.
 
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Considering it took an entire fucking DECADE for Los Angeles County to rip Jani and Bodhi away from Susan Schofield, and even then they only acted because Susan voluntarily went on Dr. Phil to REEEEEEEEEEE incoherently about how oppressed she was and wtf, I'm not holding out too much hope for a quick resolution. Then again, we're talking Georgia and not California, so the process may go much quicker.

Even if the Klein kids do get taken away this year, the two girls have had their physical brains literally sliced and diced like a piece of meat, so I dunno how much they can recover. They may need to be in tard care for their entire lives. The boys probably can recover enough to be somewhat functional members of society, but they'll always have phobias about health care and hospitals.

Not only is this a MbP case arguably worse than the Schofields, the mom is a cancer faker too. Godbear only knows how much money she's scammed. Hopefully she eventually goes to prison for a long time, even if the only thing they can make stick is the money swindling.
 
There's already a MbP accusation going, it's a matter of time hopefully until they get them out from under her.

these cases are personally gut wrenching and I'm hard to wrench. the seriousness of the surgeries puts this over the top.

the boys haven't had brain surgery- I'm wondering if the dad has been shielding them better.

I need to speak more on this.

chiari malformation is real- yet there can be inconclusive MRIs for it. I think that she's been undernourishing them for much longer than all this, possibly dating back to before any major medical intervention. Celiac is a common claim along MbP abusers. it allows them to control diet without suspicion, and to make the child afraid to eat normally.

this kind of psychological and physical abuse can cause a lot of issues- difficulty in eating/swallowing, bed wetting, all the signs are here.

the fact that even a boy has had a digestive surgery suggests to me that control is the underlying issue for her. that and the younger girl's "model career".

combine all of those things,with the slightest inconclusive result on an MRI and an overeager doctor, and you'll be able to get the surgeries seen here. being undernourished causes a lot of the symptoms, being abused this way causes them (including headaches).

I have worked on the aftermath of MbP cases. in one case, a sibling died and another did not (the death of one provoked enough investigation to prevent the death of the other). the surviving victim to this day has very similar problems as a survivor of child sexual abuse. the one who died had had about fifty surgeries, many diagnostic procedures, and showed clear evidence of having been given irritants through a parent-inserted feeding tube.

this thread is built of red flags.

in a way MbP is worse than sexual abuse. it's not only a bodily violation, a boundary violation, and physical, emotional abuse but also is usually accompanied by serious sadistic glee at the suffering caused by unnecessary procedures. CSA survivors can often recover with treatment, therapy. MbP survivors are often incapable of trusting any health care worker and so can never really get help to recover from it.

it's absolutely insidious and repulsive to hear about.

as far as stopping it: in the USA, religion dictates much of the law. until that changes, children will still be material objects owned by their parents. doctors will be unable to properly monitor and catch abusers like these. parents can over treat, insist on useless treatments, or remove suffering children from appropriate treatment on any whim. it's not good.

in this particular case suspicion is already raised, but it's luck that will save them. a hospital or doctor willing to kiss ass while installing cameras to catch her coaching the kids. someone educated enough to look back through the entire medical record. you'd need her permission for that, though. possibly one of the kids asking for help. at least these kids are not Jani and bodhi, unable to articulate what's being done to them. they may have a chance.

abuse thrives on secrets. allowing people to hide health records from new doctors is a bad idea. I have my issues with HIPAA, this being foremost.

I really appreciate your input on the thread @cuddlestriker, thank you.
 
The cancer faking is deplorable. She is grifter of the worst sort. She is willing to sacrifice her children to feed her desire for sympathy and cash. They live way beyond their means and beg to make up the difference.

After reading through the thread again I have no doubt that she reads it and the doubters she refers to are us. IMHO she has identified some of our observations that trigger her the most. The staging in her pics for example. That one really burned and I think she made an effort to try and make her pics look less staged (by staging then deconstructing said staging). She even took pictures where the kids weren't forced to wear matching outfits. The other trigger is her financial irresponsibility. And this one is so rich. The audacity of this broad to repeatedly beg for money while living the high life and far beyond their means. She has no concept of real financial hardship. None. Just imagine what her fucking bow budget is.

Some people get actual cancer. Single parents. Sole providers. Poor people. Her fake cancer and fancy lifestyle make her a selfish, entitled twat. Anyone who has ever been through the cancer ringer wants to punch her psychotic face. Torturing her children to feed her narcissism make her a criminal, serial child abuser. Her children need to be removed. She belongs in prison and I hope accepting donations to fight faked breast cancer is enough cause to initiate a fraud investigation. Imagine if all her past fundraising claims of woe were investigated?

I hope I get to witness her fall.
(Mad on the internet, I know.)

EDIT Holy fuck this bitch posted a screen shot from the farms while I was composing this post!
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Here is her most recent facebook post. It appears she just shut down her FB account. The fake account of Brianna Wilson Link is inserting itself into the drama. Could the fake Brianna be one of us? Likely so.


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Heavily edited to add up to the minute content and avoid double posting.

One final edit because this has been a fluid situation. First, I have never had any contact with this batshit broad. Based on her posts about doubters I suspected she was watching this thread closely and we were getting to her. I decided to make an incendiary post in an attempt to rile her into showing that she follows this thread. I chose my words carefully and included hyperbole. I am so sorry fam. She was right on it and each time I edited my post she reacted. I couldn't stop merely reposting her shit and in response she has just shut down both instagram and facebook (the Disney GFM is still up). Again, I am sorry.

I would like to invite Mrs. Klein to join our conversation and explain her side. Krissy, the best way to stop this train is to come here and convince us that we are wrong.
 
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"Brianna" - go KYS.


I hope reading here did Krissy some good.
Not adding the paypal link at the bottom of every post was a good start.
Not posting intimate information about her children's health down to their bodily functions is another improvement, considering they are in public school and the internet is forever.


Watch your Ehlers-Danlos awareness video again, Krissy. Your girls say it very clearly, they miss being kids. There's no bigger indication the surgeries were unnecessary than that 'awareness' video.
Children should never say they miss "just being a kid".
You may think that was the most poignant thing for them to say, but it was a huge red flag.
Your girls were in dance, cheerleading, able to run, jump on a trampoline, ride bikes, and now they can sit and wait for the next round of invasive testing, procedures and complications.

You have it better than most. Your needs are met and then some.
Illness befalls the rich and the poor.
It does not entitle you to a free car. There are people on chemo who take the bus.


Please seek therapy, Krissy. For yourself and the kids.


Also, you might try getting an NG tube yourself at least once, so you can experience what you've been doing to Avee weekly for well over a year.

edit to add: the only other thing she did right up until she posted a screenshot from the farms, was not engage here, or send demand letters to null.
 
The best thing that could happen is the church they scam off of (that's how I came across her story...church members full of naive southern hospitality, even out of state, keep boosting her story and GoFraudMe links) are made aware she is a cancer faker.

Southern women get a special sort of batshit when it comes to stuff like that.
 
The kid gets migraines, but I haven’t heard them talking about triptans for her, which work wonders. There is also a new migraine med out, that I don’t know much about but it’s for people who get more than 14 a month. And botox also helps. . Why they’d want to give a psychiatric drug before those things, I can only imagine is to give her ugly side effects.

Okay, slight PL here, but that's not only correct, it's even more ridiculous when you look at how Migraines usually are treated.

Firstly, you try the non-medicinal remedies. Diaries, causality, etc. Then, you try various weird NSAID-cocktails, and then you go to triptans.

The meds that cause psychoactive effects are the preventative meds, which aren't there to kill migraines like triptans, but rather there to prevent more migraines. They're usually just antiseizure medications. I'm not sure. I just eat horse tranquilizers, drink three espressos and smoke cigarettes in a dark room until it's over.
 
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