Trainwreck Onision / James Gregory Jackson / Gregory James Daniel/Jackson/Avaroe - Edgy king of the tweens, Vegan with deformed dick, Pedo, Destroying the Environment. Serial Domestic Abuser, Served the wrong Chris Hansen.

i wouldn't even respecc her pronouns.
Vince the boy blunder fucked absolutely everything with his exceptionalism. he couldn't just stay the tech monkey and keep quiet. he did a couple of funny shit when onion emailed him but that's it, he got a swollen head and kept going only to make a fool out of himself and running Hansens name into the dirt with it.
i don't agree with having to apologize for calling Onision a reetard. we all know he is and so do the anti-O's but they're too busy riding their highhorse. morally grandstanding makes them look like reetards which is probably why they got triggered.
honestly these people can turn anyone off from supporting the downfall of Onion and to hope they don't get what they want.
no one that has a disdain for pedophiles has to "wespecc pwonouns uwu" no one's saying it's a "reward that can be taken away" it's the respect being taken away but they just can't see that as an actual reason its just "bigots being ebil!!" to them. i have no respect for either side. they're both full of autistic dum dums.
 
honestly, pedophiles don't even deserve to have their 'uwu pronouns' respected since if you're into children you automatically shouldn't have any rights. and this is coming from an actual tranny. and i honestly don't give a shit about klainey's 'uwu space prince smol soft feelings!11!!1' like shut the fuck up, she had the chance to get away from the caveman but she didn't and ended up being a piece of shit herself.
 
i wouldn't even respecc her pronouns.
Vince the boy blunder fucked absolutely everything with his exceptionalism. he couldn't just stay the tech monkey and keep quiet. he did a couple of funny shit when onion emailed him but that's it, he got a swollen head and kept going only to make a fool out of himself and running Hansens name into the dirt with it.
i don't agree with having to apologize for calling Onision a reetard. we all know he is and so do the anti-O's but they're too busy riding their highhorse. morally grandstanding makes them look like reetards which is probably why they got triggered.
honestly these people can turn anyone off from supporting the downfall of Onion and to hope they don't get what they want.
no one that has a disdain for pedophiles has to "wespecc pwonouns uwu" no one's saying it's a "reward that can be taken away" it's the respect being taken away but they just can't see that as an actual reason its just "bigots being ebil!!" to them. i have no respect for either side. they're both full of autistic dum dums.
See, I kinda get it. Onision is the only cow I really follow at the moment because I've been enjoying this drama and it was going by too fast to follow anything else when Hansen first started. Now it's slowing to a trickle, Hansen is running out of guests and desperately want to make more money off of this and Vince is out there getting a massive ego for being part of the crowd that's "going to get Onision taken down". I'm pretty sure both of them started off with the best of intentions, but it's gone lowkey viral and they've gotten caught up in their golden cow, so to speak. It's really dragging what ever investigation there is down the shitter. I know how fun it is to hate Greg, but had they focused on other pedophile's I feel like all of this could have been avoided as Vince wouldn't have the Anti-O group to constantly suck off. I don't know who's most at fault, but if I had to guess I'd say Vince, he seems to be making himself nice and comfy among the Anti-O's (well... not any more) and has desperately tried getting the more famous orbiters interviewed even though not much has come of that.
 
Dahvie Vanity when, that guy probably has more milk potential than Greg at this point for Hansen. All Chris should be doing is providing kindling and a source of ignition for an FBI investigation, and then moving on to the next freak.

Drop Vince like a hot potato, Chris. I'm sure even one of us here could do a better job than he is for your show's credibility right now.
 
Honestly, I don't care who else he has on. I don't care if he has the first wife on. I don't care if he has Onion himself on. I don't care if he hosts a slapfight between Lainey and Sarah. I am over this.

Vincent poisoned this well. Hansen looks like a complete dipshit for being so indiscriminate with his hiring. It's one thing if Vincent was some behind the scenes crewmember who was discovered to have a history of dumb shit, but his ugly mug was plastered over multiple interviews and he has been allowed access to the official Twitter. Chris should have fucking fired him after the first nonsense, or at the very least removed him from the investigation after his comments started to upset the victims.

I feel like the whole Hansen "investigation" is bust. He has to now either spend valuable time cleaning up Vincent's mess, or lose most of his credibility by doing nothing. We all though that something real would come of this, but as of now nothing real has happened and the whole thing has fallen apart. It was getting bad when he had wig girl and Beck and crystal aura fag and other total randos on, but this Vincent thing clinches it.

It just amazes me how stupid some people are.

All Chris and Vince had to do was cover the story, interview the key victims, get the investigation rolling, and then sit back and NOT fuck it up. And they're FUCKING it up. HOW.
 
It just amazes me how stupid some people are.

All Chris and Vince had to do was cover the story, interview the key victims, get the investigation rolling, and then sit back and NOT fuck it up. And they're FUCKING it up. HOW.

Onision has the uncanny ability to slither away from any controversy that gets thrown his way.

I can't tell you the amount of times people have tried to nail this Onion over the last decade, only for it to suddenly derail itself or lose momentum immediately. It speaks a lot to Greg's preservation instinct and how detrimental overreaching is to an investigation.

The Onion will fall. Bad. But in an anticlimactic way, and with him screaming and sobbing all the way through.
 
If it was another cow, I might be worried, but I don't think there's anything to be concerned about with Onision. A smarter cow might try and use the Vince stuff to shift the narrative and quietly fade into obscurity until the allegations die down. But, Onision isn't the type of person to let something go/be quiet. Before Hansen, Onision was pretty desperate for someone to cover him again because he thrives on drama. The bigger YouTubers he went after during this period were smart enough not to take the bait. If Hansen, for whatever reason, stopped covering Onision, I think he'd do his usual thing and start pestering Hansen in an attempt to get more attention. I also just think, in general, the damage is done, and has arguably been done for awhile. It's not like Onision was thriving before this/hadn't had any allegations come out before. I think Hansen just provided a more official/better organized outlet, and he was a legitimate enough host to get actual victims to come forward and provide their stories.

If an FBI investigation has been launched, the Vince stuff won't matter at all to them. The worst possible case scenario is Vince has been taking the lead on speaking with them and has done a poor job, but it seems unlikely. Hansen is the one with the background in working with the FBI. Even if he isn't taking point, I'd think he'd at least be assisting whoever was and making sure they were sending appropriate information.
I agree but at the same time you cant deny that the only reason someone like Phillip Defranco covered the Onision stuff is thanks to Chris, and it's not like you can blame him really, he did the smart thing not giving Greg attention like he obviously wanted from big youtubers. But Chris gave it sort of a professional seal, when Chris Hansen covers something and even confirms that the FBI is involved, people from the outside who might not really know what's happening are suddenly aware that this isnt just petty trolly attention seeking youtuber drama but actual and serious breaking of the law. So if Chris' name falls off the case, that same mainstream crowd will lose interest.
I'm not saying that people like Phillip Defranco are the only way to put Greg in jail, obviously the FBI will look into him regardless of how many big youtubers speak about the situation, but you cant deny the effect these things have. For example, I dont think DaddyOfFive would've gotten such swift justice if it wasnt for all the media pressure. And onision and Lainey need to be jailed as quick as possible for the sake of the kids.
 
Drop Vince like a hot potato, Chris. I'm sure even one of us here could do a better job than he is for your show's credibility right now.

Like I've said here before , I'll work for video games and metal concert tickets, lol.

I'm really trying to stay optimistic about all of this. In all the years that many of us have spent trying to get people to look into Grex and actually do something
about him, this is the closest we've ever gotten. More people know who he is and it's not for anything good.

At least we have that.
 
I don't think Discount Epstein is getting out of this unscathed. I'm thinking at minimum, he's got a permanent Scarlet letter on his chest in the eyes of the public, which can be pretty devastating. At worst, I think Old Greg had some secrets we were not privy to. I suppose time will tell.

Ultimately, I don't think the FBI gives two shits about Vince acting like a dumbass and calling people names. I would presume they'd see it as being all on him, specifically and Chris had an unfortunate misjudge in character in hiring him to help. I'm guessing there's a good reason they've been eyeballing Gurgy for years and it's bigger than Vince and his antics
 
Like I've said here before , I'll work for video games and metal concert tickets, lol.

I'm really trying to stay optimistic about all of this. In all the years that many of us have spent trying to get people to look into Grex and actually do something
about him, this is the closest we've ever gotten. More people know who he is and it's not for anything good.

At least we have that.
If the FBI really does have some smoking-gun level evidence, the wait shouldn't be too much longer. Unless the claim was an over-exaggeration. With any luck, golgothian sylex will get v&, and we can shift our focus to Vinny. :story:
 
If the FBI really does have some smoking-gun level evidence, the wait shouldn't be too much longer. Unless the claim was an over-exaggeration. With any luck, golgothian sylex will get v&, and we can shift our focus to Vinny. :story:

I mean, in all actuality they could have something but suspect there's much, much more and are waiting for the right moment to seize more info and then seize Grog.

They've historically been a cautious bunch, and they like to seal the cases firmly shut - no loose ends to be rehashed later, no holes in theory, nothing that makes them look bad. Thorough.

They also like to get intel through stings and such. For all we know, an FBI agent could pose as someone from the wetlands crew and get access. They wouldn't be able to get on any of his devices or arouse suspicion, but if they saw anything questionable in plain sight, they have a right to search. And Grugly has no time to prepare, since he's claiming there's not yet been contact or questioning.

He strikes me as dumb enough to keep evidence cos THEY AIN'T A'KNOCKIN AT THE DOOR TRUFAX

Hansen is probably on damage control with them though, if they're involved. Likely we'll get no more updates.
 
I mean, in all actuality they could have something but suspect there's much, much more and are waiting for the right moment to seize more info and then seize Grog.

They've historically been a cautious bunch, and they like to seal the cases firmly shut - no loose ends to be rehashed later, no holes in theory, nothing that makes them look bad. Thorough.

They also like to get intel through stings and such. For all we know, an FBI agent could pose as someone from the wetlands crew and get access. They wouldn't be able to get on any of his devices or arouse suspicion, but if they saw anything questionable in plain sight, they have a right to search. And Grugly has no time to prepare, since he's claiming there's not yet been contact or questioning.

He strikes me as dumb enough to keep evidence cos THEY AIN'T A'KNOCKIN AT THE DOOR TRUFAX

Hansen is probably on damage control with them though, if they're involved. Likely we'll get no more updates.
You raise a fair point. It stands to reason that you'd want an airtight case, even with someone as water-brained as Goggalor. I think, perhaps mentioning the FBI having said evidence might have been a mistake, since you're generally not supposed to broadcast the details of an ongoing investigation. I know we all paint Gurgules as an idiot, but it's pretty clear (what with the Twitter deletions and alterations) that even he's taking this seriously enough to try and cover his tracks. And I guarantee the Twitter situation isn't the only thing he's done. Though I doubt he's competent enough to properly dispose of any evidence he might currently have. He'll probably just pop it in the recycle bin and call it a day.
 
rate me rainbows but I fail to see how Vince being a gay autist is going to fuck up Chris's career or completely derail the onion investigation.

Maybe I'm missing something, since my eyes do glaze over and I go into a coma if a comment is more than 2 inches of unbroken squealing about not-onion, but from what I gathered during my brief moments of conscious thought, he called people retards, spazzed out about being hacked to cover for it, and doxed a guy.

That's nothing. Chris can just fire him and go "I didn't realize he was a fool" and that's the end of it.
 
rate me rainbows but I fail to see how Vince being a gay autist is going to fuck up Chris's career or completely derail the onion investigation.

Maybe I'm missing something, since my eyes do glaze over and I go into a coma if a comment is more than 2 inches of unbroken squealing about not-onion, but from what I gathered during my brief moments of conscious thought, he called people exceptional individuals, spazzed out about being hacked to cover for it, and doxed a guy.

That's nothing. Chris can just fire him and go "I didn't realize he was a fool" and that's the end of it.

Beyond being incredibly exceptional and unprofessional, he's being accused of making unwanted sexual advances towards an RSN victim, as well as going onto Deity's live stream and "victim-shaming" her in front of the entire stream.
He's also accused of giving Deity sensitive information about the case that wasn't supposed to be shared. He improperly struck channels that spoke out against he and Chris which Chris is accused of being aware of, certainly making their motives questionable.
Vincent used the investigation to scam viewers sympathetic to the Onion victims/case with his websites, and an argument could be made that Chris could also use the money.
Vincent allegedly handled the devices with evidence that were turned over to police, and he's proven himself to be questionable at the very least, also mentioning wanting to beat Greg up. And Chris has made it all seem as though he's working closely with FBI. I'm no lawyer but you could probably argue some sort of counter-point with all of that.

Search around Twitter and you'll find it all - the Chris Hansen thread may also have more. It's all alleged, and I'm not saying I agree with it all, but that's where my brain goes. It all muddies the ethical waters.
 
rate me rainbows but I fail to see how Vince being a gay autist is going to fuck up Chris's career or completely derail the onion investigation.

Maybe I'm missing something, since my eyes do glaze over and I go into a coma if a comment is more than 2 inches of unbroken squealing about not-onion, but from what I gathered during my brief moments of conscious thought, he called people exceptional individuals, spazzed out about being hacked to cover for it, and doxed a guy.

That's nothing. Chris can just fire him and go "I didn't realize he was a fool" and that's the end of it.
He had many opportunities to realize that he was a fool and did nothing. Vincent proved himself a fool publicly many times. Bad look for Chris to not fire him or take him off the project right away.

As for derailing an investigation, sorry guys, but I still don't fully believe that there is one. I don't think the FBI is actively building a case against Onion and Lainey. Would be cool but I don't think it's as real as Vincent and Chris want us to think, and I don't particularly trust either one as a reputable source of legal information.
 
As for derailing an investigation, sorry guys, but I still don't fully believe that there is one. I don't think the FBI is actively building a case against Onion and Lainey. Would be cool but I don't think it's as real as Vincent and Chris want us to think, and I don't particularly trust either one as a reputable source of legal information.

I think Chris Hansen is desperate to get views. He's obviously done something to get himself totally blackballed from TV, and his only way of making money is to become a youtube shit talker. He's got no money or internet experience, so he gets a dolt like Vincent to help him for 10% of the youtube bucks. He picks an internet celebrity who is on the skids and tries to make people think he has law enforcement connections to "bring him to justice". This is all an act and it's playing to people's wishful thinking. I don't think he can ride this money train for long before it all unravels. Hansen is a loser. It will catch up to him eventually.
 
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