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Maybe even the "doctor" couldn't tell because it was too experimental? If he were at all conscientious he should have warned Jaron he might not being able to use his new front hole.
Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once
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Mako_Spark
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If it was 'too experimental,' that's all the more reason for a (good) doctor to let the patient know that pretty much anything could happen, including a non-functional (well, of course it's non-functional, but 'non-fuckable') neovagina. It's a fairly common complication even in more conventional SRS procedures when doctors have much more to work with, I'd think it would be very much in the realm of "possible/likely enough for the patient to be fully cautioned about the risks before surgery." But this is the great new frontier of troon surgery, stopping suicides with every dick chopped off,* who cares about any of the possible complications when it's literally life-saving surgery**, right?
*Only, not.
**Like, it's been proven it's not, stop calling it that already...
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What was Jazz's surgeons name? I am sure it has been mentioned but it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Little shop of horrors:
www.restoremedcenter.com
Just an FYI. These guys are actual surgeons, with multiple credentials. Their SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) is pretty clear. Florida-based clinic recruits locally but also nationwide, with instructions for out-of-towners ....
The JJ-holes they create aren't dissolving in stomach acid or bursting open.... and who knows if they do pediatric roto-rooters, but that isn't the vibe I am picking up. Are these the guys who did Jazz? I hope not.
This condition is supposed to affect 1 in about 30,000 bio males.
If your kid has this issue in SOCal, you can take him or her here:
https://www.chla.org/the-center-transyouth-health-and-development
www.chla.org
415 patients, male and female, ages 4-25 from all over the Los Angeles Area megopolis, out of millions. This corroborates the idea that this problem, in its truest form is exceedingly rare. If your kid is seen at CHLA their methods at least appear to be evidence based (as seen in the research credentials of the practitioners), and slow-moving.
Just random info.
Basically this is in keeping with the working theory here, that something really went wrong, procedurally, in the Jazz Jennings case. And the cultural attention that this rather obscure disorder gets, is way out of proportion to its epidemiology.
Little shop of horrors:
Home — Restore Med Center
Restore Center for Gender Reassignment Surgery is committed to compassionate care for transgender women that are looking to surgically re-assign their biological sex.
www.restoremedcenter.com
Just an FYI. These guys are actual surgeons, with multiple credentials. Their SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) is pretty clear. Florida-based clinic recruits locally but also nationwide, with instructions for out-of-towners ....
The JJ-holes they create aren't dissolving in stomach acid or bursting open.... and who knows if they do pediatric roto-rooters, but that isn't the vibe I am picking up. Are these the guys who did Jazz? I hope not.
This condition is supposed to affect 1 in about 30,000 bio males.
If your kid has this issue in SOCal, you can take him or her here:
https://www.chla.org/the-center-transyouth-health-and-development
Transgender Community Questions & Answers With Johanna Olson, MD – CHLA’s Transyouth Program
Here at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, our Division of Adolescent and Young Adult Medicine that is headed by Marvin Belzer, MD, has been supporting the health of transgender youth for nearly 20 years. Diane Sawyer’s recent interview of B. Jenner on “20/20,” included Johanna Olson, MD, medical...
415 patients, male and female, ages 4-25 from all over the Los Angeles Area megopolis, out of millions. This corroborates the idea that this problem, in its truest form is exceedingly rare. If your kid is seen at CHLA their methods at least appear to be evidence based (as seen in the research credentials of the practitioners), and slow-moving.
Just random info.
Basically this is in keeping with the working theory here, that something really went wrong, procedurally, in the Jazz Jennings case. And the cultural attention that this rather obscure disorder gets, is way out of proportion to its epidemiology.
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Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but there is a lot of chatter about Jazz moving out.
This is how his parents feel about it
In short, they dont think he can handle the responsibility that comes with independence.
This is how his parents feel about it
In short, they dont think he can handle the responsibility that comes with independence.
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Jazz is basically a 9 year old. I don't see any feasible way he could possibly live by himself and survive. The harsh reality is that his siblings will be responsible for him once mom and dad are gone. That's assuming he doesn't tragically do himself in. But that said, I don't see him being able to maintain anything a normal functional adult would be able to. He's just too stunted in terms of his emotional and social development.
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Jazz has his own money, he only needs to find a place and leave. He doesn't need to ask his parents, he's an adult. Is this filmed in Saudi Arabia when he needs a male's permission to even leave the house?
ETA: yes, I know he can't make it alone, but that doesn't mean he's unable to just take his bags and move out if he really wants to. Why asking his parents for permission or their opinion? It's only drama for the stupid show.
ETA: yes, I know he can't make it alone, but that doesn't mean he's unable to just take his bags and move out if he really wants to. Why asking his parents for permission or their opinion? It's only drama for the stupid show.
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I'm thinking that he's really doing the kids' version of the whole thing: "You don't love me, so I'll run away."
And it's "bad" because obviously the kid doesn't know what he's doing and only wants more of his parents' attention/love.
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dr marci bowers did the original surgery and dr jess ting did revisions.
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Mako_Spark
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Bowers is also an MTF who was married with kids before his transition and there's a lot of vague articles claiming '"she" and her former wife are now "like sisters" stuff on the interwebs... I'd take that with a grain of salt, personally. Both Bowers and Ting are considered pretty much the 'best of the best' in the US - Bowers at least has a waiting list about five years long and does 150-200 SRS surgeries a year. (He also does pro bono work helping with reconstructive surgeries for victims of FGM from Africa, etc, so he's not all evil.)
Basically, Jazz got the top SRS surgeons in the US to do her SRS and still had horrific complications... that tells you something. Most troons can't afford the cost/wait so Dr. Suporn in Thailand is considered the next best thing... but he's had some horror results too.
It is experimental surgery and we're all going to look back at it with even more horror than we feel now.
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Does he have his own money? Florida isn't California, and it's not even clear what TLC is paying or who they're paying it to. If it turns out that he's his parents' dancing monkey for their sole financial benefit, I would not be surprised in the slightest. Even if he does have the money on paper, can he actually cash it out, or is it tied up in some bullshit "fund" managed by his mother/the show/both?
Because being led by the (voluminous) nose through life is the only existence he knows. What else would he do?
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It might be a self-confidence issue. While normal parents do everything in their power to prepare their children for a healthy, robust and independent adulthood, freaky narcissistic ones strategically sabotage the maturing process in their chosen victim.
If the parents continue to keep pushing the buttons they installed in the first place (Jazz is too immature, too unmotivated, physically in need of modifications) they are basically giving themselves license to continue their control of her.
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There are only four states that require Coogan Accounts (or something like it) and Florida isn’t one of them. Florida does have a law, the Child Performer and Athlete Protection Act, which works somewhat similarly but there are significant loopholes that still allow for parents to hold the purse strings.
Mako_Spark
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Yes, it's likely Jazz will end up with nothing. Even in the states with Coogan laws, all they require is that 15% of the child's paycheck goes directly to the child's "can't touch until age 18" bank account, the parents can (and usually do!) pocket the other 85%. and the good money is for big-budget, mostly union TV/Film roles... there are essentially no rules about how much a child (or anyone) must be paid for a reality show, plus all the rules about how many hours a child can 'work' in front of a film crew each day (plus other protections for showbiz kids like a mandatory social worker on set, minimum hours of tutoring if they haven't finished school, etc.) have not yet been extended to "reality" kids.
My optimistic side wants lawyer dad to have played hardball and secured a huge contract for Jazz, but TLC is not throwing buckets of money at anyone, so Jazz is not getting rich even if his parents give him 100% of his earnings,. To understand how rare it actually is for stage parents to do this, when my son was very young some friends in the industry asked if he could be in one scene of a hit network TV show. This was Cali, so he literally could only 'work' for 20 minutes max at his age... I held him in the shot and also got paid for a full day's work (but only made about one-fifth of what my drooling baby did!) and then we hung out with our friends on set the rest of the day - I'd never let him 'work' now he's older but holding a baby for 20 minutes and scoring $675 for his college fund (plus $125 for me, so $800 total)? Total no-brainer.
His "Coogan" money was sent directly to his account before I was sent the remainder of his paycheck, but when our checks came in, I went to the bank and asked to deposit them both into his account (I only made 'my' money holding him, so I figured he deserved both)... the bank teller looked at me like I was a space alien ("you understand they've already taken out the required amount, right? You don't need to give anything else to your son... let me get a manager, I've been here years and have no idea how to do a voluntary deposit into a Coogan... it just never happens, wow, you are an incredible mother." (For not stealing my son's paycheck? Bravo, me!)
Also noteworthy: that 15% still isn't "safe" because the parents still control what is done with the money in the trust... lots of fake 'production companies' started by showbiz parents to get their hands on every last penny (it's so easy, the child's account 'invests' in the fake company for some nominal amount of shares, but the company is purely a front, the money just goes straight to the parents.)
And: Most TV series start with seven-year contracts. The network can drop the show/'cast' at any minute of course, but if they score a hit, they have their cast locked in and unable to 're-up' (demand more money) for the first seven seasons... I already predict Jazz will not be returning for a season seven, but definitely not a season eight - they'd ask for more money (everyone does!), but now that the audience has all already seen the 'main event,' he just doesn't have a compelling narrative anymore. Depression is depressing, no one's going to keep tuning in to follow his brave and stunning battle with depression... the show will be over within two years (and most likely less than that), no doubt about it.
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I doubt jazz is being paid enough, the father is a high priced lawyer and jeannette is already from money, this is just about getting on TV.
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Jeanette has no intentions of letting jazz go anywhere. He is firmly under her control and so is the money. She controls him, his social media messages, and even denies him the right to speak of his physical pain from the genital butchering or any regret with the surgery. He is her little puppet and he better dance to her happy lil tranny tune.
Ziltoid
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This kid is mentally stunted, if he gets his way and moves out, he'll be back by the end of the month with none of his obligations paid, the fridge empty, his last "happy pill" gone and his self-esteem lower than the last circle of hell.
Moving out is intimidating the first time, but you get the hang of it pretty quickly. It's not rocket science: pay the rent, pay the bills, manage whatever's left of your money until your next paycheck and save any penny you can for an emergency. But considering it's Jazz we're talking about, even doing basic peasant economy would throw him into a mental breakdown. If he can't be responsible for his own schedules, being responsible for absolutely everything is going to defeat him.
I have the feeling this fucker isn't going to give up on any luxuries and comfort he's used to either. He'll obliterate whatever percentage of money he gets before his first weekend of faux independence, and looking for an affordable one-room apartment in a lower middle class monobloc with shitty actually bigoted neighbors is certainly out of the question.
... I hope they leave him at least try. Shit sounds hilarious.
Moving out is intimidating the first time, but you get the hang of it pretty quickly. It's not rocket science: pay the rent, pay the bills, manage whatever's left of your money until your next paycheck and save any penny you can for an emergency. But considering it's Jazz we're talking about, even doing basic peasant economy would throw him into a mental breakdown. If he can't be responsible for his own schedules, being responsible for absolutely everything is going to defeat him.
I have the feeling this fucker isn't going to give up on any luxuries and comfort he's used to either. He'll obliterate whatever percentage of money he gets before his first weekend of faux independence, and looking for an affordable one-room apartment in a lower middle class monobloc with shitty actually bigoted neighbors is certainly out of the question.
... I hope they leave him at least try. Shit sounds hilarious.
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Apparently Boy George said this and people are really after him. I can't help but agreeing with him.
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When Boy George of all people is saying that pronouns are a modern form of attention seeking, then the shitheads with the pronouns should rethink their lives.
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Child's too mentally stunted to be independent yet is capable of deciding to change sex.....