Bigot Brigade Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

Or in Something Awful's case, traps.
this term doesn't even make sense anymore, the whole reason they were called traps is that they're supposed to be hard to detect until it's too late

troons are the living incarnation of funhouse mirrors, except no one has any fun
 
4chan has massively ingrained groupthink, if you don't notice it it's probably because you agree with it.

It's not just 4chan. Twitter allows you to block anyone who disagrees with you. Reddit has like-minded communities who downvote (and sometimes ban) those who think differently. Facebook groups are almost all hiveminds.
 
People actually want to fuck Pennywise.
This is random and not related to SA, but I thought some of you might get a laugh. In the novel It, the first kill is a gay couple (FYI the novel was written in 1986). This scene happened in the present before the flashbacks. When the 2017 film hit, the Internet was true to form so the new Pennywise became an ironic/not-ironic sex symbol. Then it was decided he was a "Queer Icon," because.
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So the sequel hit last year, and as we all know the '17 film was entirely the flashback part of the novel; so this film will be the modern part, with the characters as adults. The opening scene of the sequel adapts the opening scene of the novel (you know, as adaptations are wont to do), and you can guess what happened next:


Thankfully, this didn't get enough traction and was forgotten amidst other outrages.
 
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I've lurked SA since the mid 2000s because it was a really good source of information/news about niche topics and there were some very informative posters over there. I honestly probably only made 2 or 3 posts a year when stuff really interested me or i wanted to ask someone a question.

I noticed a huge change in the tone a few years ago and everyone suddenly seemed to be on a hair-trigger when it came to finding things to be "problematic". My 10+ year old lurker account with maybe 20 posts total got perma-banned when i posted in the general video-game chat thread in the middle of a circle jerk about how Japanese game devs don't have enough minority characters in their games. Apparently, suggesting that this was because Japan is a monocultural, conservative society made me a bigot because i didn't want every second video-game character to be gay/trans/a PoC for no reason other than wokeness.

I had a back-up account because i knew that people were starting to get banned for trivial shit so i went back to lurking and i kept my mouth shut until the recent trans thing blew up. I made one post on this second account in a thread where Lowtax was trying to talk to these lunatics where i told him to just kill the forums because he'll never be able to win no matter what he does and that earned me another ban so i'm pretty much done with the place now.

A bunch of broke-brain-boys have taken over by driving all dissenters out and the few vaguely normal people that are left are just agreeing with them because they are afraid of getting banned themselves and SA still means something to them despite it being a mere shadow of its former self.
 
What's funny to me is that actual, no shit real leftists used to reach out to me and I'd shockingly finding myself not hating them. They used to say shit like " man we deserve weekends and here's the sacrifices I'm willing to make to ensure it happens etc... " now it's degenerate freaks screeching about making anal tampons available for dickgirls. Horrible, degenerate shit.
 
Real leftists would be considered centrists on SA now and the new mantra over there is that centrists are actually right wing.

I've no-shit seen this posted on multiple occasions along with various workings of "if you aren't willing to pick a side, you've already picked a side". They have added people in the middle to the ever growing list of nazis that totally exist in 2020 that no one else in the entire world has noticed at all somehow.
 
Real leftists would be considered centrists on SA now and the new mantra over there is that centrists are actually right wing.

I've no-shit seen this posted on multiple occasions along with various workings of "if you aren't willing to pick a side, you've already picked a side". They have added people in the middle to the ever growing list of nazis that totally exist in 2020 that no one else in the entire world has noticed at all somehow.
That's the nature of progressivism. If you aren't progressing, you're conservative and thus the enemy. It's why you had a lot of Democrat boomers talking about, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me," etc.
 
The reason 4chan groupthink isn't utterly impenetrable is because of anonymity and the inherently contrary nature of its userbase. No matter how popular an idea is there there's gonna be drive by shitposts making fun of it.

In my experience, this is how containment boards almost always go. Off the top of my head, the only instance of it working out was the My Little Pony containment board on 4chan, and that only worked because pony content is so easy to identify that anyone posting it outside its containment zone could be banned quickly and without much deliberation. Politics are a lot easier to slip in and breed a lot more resentment.
This current conversation brings back a thought I had earlier: how do sites gain immunity to being over-run by malcontents and echo chambers? Someone posited the like / dislike button can cause feedback loops. That's true. There's basically one on this site as well, but I don't see it (currently) going the way of Resetera or SA. Places like 4chan seem immune to group-think via its chaotic nature and frequent shitposts. Perhaps its an administration problem, sympathetic elements allowing echo chambers to fester? A general lack of confrontation could also be a factor, running out the elements that would harm a growing subculture so it can spread. IIRC, SA started going downhill shortly after the conservative posters were banned or ostracized.

Hm. Perhaps a diversity of shit thoughts is a strength.

The problem with SA containment boards is they aren't containment boards. They are recruiting, planning, and progaganda centers for their flamewars & thread invasions.

When the commies overran the Landlord thread, all that shit was planned and the lulz had in CSPAM. If the moderators had actually cared about discussion, they would have banned the invaders and probated the cheerleaders. They don't, so they allowed it happen with tiny slaps on the wrists for the worst invaders, and nothing for the people who started/stirred the shit in CSPAM because 'its in line with CSPAM posting guidelines' or w/e. They then banned and probed thread regulars for "bad posting" if they responded to the threadshitters.

Conversely, if BFC had tried to counter thread-shit into CSPAM, they would have been rapidly probed and banned.

There is nothing wrong with proper containment boards "Politics go here" "Race stuff goes here" "Bronies go to the hyper-coupon board so they can get the best deals on exit bags"; but you can't set up a whole 'only commie posting allowed' board where the commies can talk commie shop and then export their shit to the rest of the forum, but no one else can come challenge them on their turf without facing mod action.

I think KF's upvote/downvote systems works because, firstly, it allows you show your feeling about a post without empty quoting or a low-content cheerleading post. Because a supporting post isn't needed, there are usually fewer shrieking retards in a slap fight. And buttmad semilurkers can't simply wait for a less intelligent or articulated (or popular) poster to voice support for a view point and then jump on that post to try to pick a fight they can win.

On the flipside, you dont' have to call out every dumb post you see to let people know they're fucking idiots. Rate autistic, move on.

Also because KF does good self policing, where anyone trying measure their e-dick using reaction score will be quickly and soundly mocked for being a sped.

I wonder how quickly you'd be banned in TFR for posting a bunch of historical pics of WW2 German guns in the pics thread. Even if the focus was on the guns themselves. The thought police would have a field day poring through the photos thread. Anything WW2 German or Rhodesia related and the like would be immediate grounds for a ban. Assuming of course that whoever posted them hasn't already been banned over the years.

Seeing how the most spurious of connections will turn you into a full blown goose stepping Nazi in the eyes of the weirdos taking over SA, it's strange that they haven't turned their eyes to Cyrano4747. Allowing him to be an admin in the first place was a surprise. The dude truly loves guns, especially German WW2 guns, and all the history behind that period of time. If you read virtually any of his many, many pages of posts in the milsurp thread in TFR you'll find loads of posts, often long screeds, about stuff that should definitely qualify as wrongthink for an admin in the new SA. Long essays on German and Nazi history, how to own and where best to acquire guns and ammo, how to care for your guns, info about reloading ammo, and so on and so forth.

Hell I just randomly chose a few pages in the milsurp thread and after two pages right away got this:

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Lookit all of those Nazi guns he owns!!!! Eight of them!!! Talking about how easy it is to get fully automatic guns! And how does he know so much about those Nazi guns and all the detailed history behind them unless...OH MY GOD HE'S AN ACTUAL NAAZZZIIIII!!!!!!

I can only laugh at the idea though. Among a million other things, one that stands out to me is the fact that the dude sold an SKS he owned because it skeeved him out. This SKS may or may not have gone through the Bosnian war and it had markings on stock that may or may not have been problematic. Not that anyone could conclusively say in any way what the markings meant, of course, just that they were there meant he fully endorsed Serbian war criminals by owning it.

I suppose since he's an "ally" it's completely fine. If he or anyone else had ever expressed opinions that they didn't agree with he'd be out in a heartbeat, and who knows, he may have somewhere, because in writing this post I saw that he's closed a bunch of threads, including the milsurp thread, photo thread, AR-15 thread, and video game thread. Once threads fall into archives it's difficult to quickly look stuff up. These were threads that lasted over a decade had tens of thousands of posts. TFR has had a liberal bent since its inception but each of those threads probably has loads of wrongthink and I seriously doubt that him closing the threads is just a coincidence.

WWII posting/interest, general objective interest in the 3rd Reich is a slippery slope into unironic nazism and we can't allow that to happen, as any neutral discussion is likely to draw them into the alt-right and then full race war.

BTW, it's wrong and stupid to imply anyone who isn't legit a tranny would be influenced by 24/7 genderpolitics discussion.


The 'Diversity is STRENGTH!' line makes my skin itch just seeing it because it is always abused for agendas or stupid ideas, however there is a tiny mote of sense in it. Diversity of opinions means you will not hear just one same note over and over and over.

As you said, you need actual diversity of thought and viewpoint, not simply who's loudest who checks the most checkboxes.
But you also don't need to give all viewpoints equal voice, and its a tough balancing act.

Yes but generally you don't get it from the staff end except from the time mootykins bent the knee to Anita in hopes for some sweet progressive cred. So it's not as noticable as the groupthink on SA/ResetEra where if a troon decides they don't like what you say they'll get you banned.

4chan has massively ingrained groupthink, if you don't notice it it's probably because you agree with it.

The difference with 4chan is that the groupthink is all over the spectrum. Its not just commie talking points. And you are free to try to swim against the current in the ocean of piss, you won't get mods enacting gay vendettas against you. As you said, Moot trying to fuck Anita's giant hoop earrings was the closest 4chan has really gotten to mod overreach.


they're literally everything they said FYAD was. An exclusionary club that gets treated with kid gloves by the staff, gets to dictate forum policy, and anyone who doesn't adhere to the style guide gets probated and kicked out.

They also hate women.

TBF you have just legit described FYAD. the only difference is FYAD was sometimes funny with no one was taking things that seriously, when the trannies are screeching buttmad loons who hate humor because they hate themselves.
 
What's funny to me is that actual, no shit real leftists used to reach out to me and I'd shockingly finding myself not hating them. They used to say shit like " man we deserve weekends and here's the sacrifices I'm willing to make to ensure it happens etc... " now it's degenerate freaks screeching about making anal tampons available for dickgirls. Horrible, degenerate shit.

identity is the best grift folks. there's a reason why billionaires pour billions of dollars of foundation cash into identity politics, mainly because at the end of the day you can divide and divide and divide until you end up with the smallest minority possible - one.


this also why the "left" in america is a joke. if they wanted people to support them they would talk about how the moral project of their politics is to make it affordable for average, everday people to live and raise a family. instead american "socialists" devote 100% of their time talking about troons, junkies, and hookers
 
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