Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

I don't disagree, but that's thinking the way I think. That isn't Vic's style, and additionally, betrayal is a real motherfucker. It'll knock anyone for a loop, so in between that and other factors we'll never know about, it's no surprise he didn't take it to 10 immediately against these people.

I've said it before, and I know I'm right: if Vic was actually the type of man some are saying, I sincerely doubt he'd be in the VA business, or at least not so far down the ladder. Also, the people fucking with this livelihood would have wished he'd never been born.
There’s also the Kiwi insinuation that KV wants Vic to eat lead.
 
Do you suffer from Weeb Warrior Fatigue?

Signs and symptoms:
- Actually caring what Nick thinks about what Vic thinks about general pacifism, or what Vic might think about that.
- Arguing with others about the correct view of said views on said views
- For, like, five fucking pages.
- I mean, like, really.
- Seriously?

Ask your doctor about prescription-strength Fuckitol!
 
It's not hard to understand where Nick is coming from. To most of us (I hope), we're largely looking in and laughing. Nick is arguably the top general of ISWV in the ISWV vs KV war. No, Vic didn't ask for this, but it's not a long shot to say that without Nick's intervention, Vic may very well have already had a funeral by now.

While Vic remains silent, Nick has been fighting hard. As he should, he largely acts only mildly annoyed, but being accused of being a racist, having multiple people threaten your job, be accused of federal crimes, continuously have your income threatened and to be potentially be facing down the barrel of a legal battle yourself as a fairly young Father of 5 is more than many can handle.

He's done all this largely because he believes in Vic and believes in the spirit of justice that's supposed to be at the heart of the law. Now imagine that same man you're fighting tooth and nail for - the one who you've subjected yourself to substantial pain holding the line for him and pushing the rabid mob back, had the power to end your joint enemies, and repeatedly chooses not to. While you toil away, recruiting thousands of people and being a leader in raising over a quarter of a million dollars, he can only offer platitudes from the sidelines. Imagine after doing all that for this man and his cause, he's not willing to publicly acknowledge you as a friend. This isn't about whether it would be risk-free for Vic to do so.

Can you imagine waking up every day and fighting someone's war for them while they smile and play the innocent victim and won't acknowledge you? The financial compensation is neither here nor there. This is an emotional and relationship-based gripe.

Imagine what that all feels like emotionally, combine it with too much alcohol, and you get what we saw on stream. A front line general frustrated the man he's fighting for won't swing the big stick to end the war and won't publicly give him any medals for his service, all for his image, the possibility malicious actors will paint him as not so innocent and "staying true to himself".

I dont think Nick wants medals. He wants justice.
 
Do you suffer from Weeb Warrior Fatigue?

Signs and symptoms:
- Actually caring what Nick thinks about what Vic thinks about general pacifism, or what Vic might think about that.
- Arguing with others about the correct view of said views on said views
- For, like, five fucking pages.
- I mean, like, really.
- Seriously?

Ask your doctor about prescription-strength Fuckitol!
What are the side effects?
 
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It's not hard to understand where Nick is coming from. To most of us (I hope), we're largely looking in and laughing. Nick is arguably the top general of ISWV in the ISWV vs KV war. No, Vic didn't ask for this, but it's not a long shot to say that without Nick's intervention, Vic may very well have already had a funeral by now.

While Vic remains silent, Nick has been fighting hard. As he should, he largely acts only mildly annoyed, but being accused of being a racist, having multiple people threaten your job, be accused of federal crimes, continuously have your income threatened and to be potentially be facing down the barrel of a legal battle yourself as a fairly young Father of 5 is more than many can handle.

He's done all this largely because he believes in Vic and believes in the spirit of justice that's supposed to be at the heart of the law. Now imagine that same man you're fighting tooth and nail for - the one who you've subjected yourself to substantial pain holding the line for him and pushing the rabid mob back, had the power to end your joint enemies, and repeatedly chooses not to. While you toil away, recruiting thousands of people and being a leader in raising over a quarter of a million dollars, he can only offer platitudes from the sidelines. Imagine after doing all that for this man and his cause, he's not willing to publicly acknowledge you as a friend. This isn't about whether it would be risk-free for Vic to do so.

Can you imagine waking up every day and fighting someone's war for them while they smile and play the innocent victim and won't acknowledge you? The financial compensation is neither here nor there. This is an emotional and relationship-based gripe.

Imagine what that all feels like emotionally, combine it with too much alcohol, and you get what we saw on stream. A front line general frustrated the man he's fighting for won't swing the big stick to end the war and won't publicly give him any medals for his service, all for his image, the possibility malicious actors will paint him as not so innocent and "staying true to himself".

I like Nick and all... But Vic never asked for his help. Nor has Vic ever expressed that he even WANTED Nick's help. Nick took it upon himself.

In fairness, i also think Nick played a major role in keeping Vic relevant in the industry. Without Nick, I don't think Vic would be doing ANY appearances.

But again, Vic never asked for Nick's help. Nick has stated this over and over again.

Vic has his own agenda he thinks is best for him (it's not) and at the end of the day, Vic is his own person, and responsible for his own agenda

Nick shouldn't act upset at Vic not reciprocating and acting accordingly to the help that he never once asked for.

On the flip side, Nick's subscriber rate, income, and exposure have ROCKETED as a result of nick's involvement in all of this. He has definitely benefited from all of this.

TL:DR

Vic never asked for your help, Nick. And even if he doesn't appreciate it. We do. Keep fighting the good fight my man.
 
But again, Vic never asked for Nick's help. Nick has stated this over and over again.

Vic has his own agenda he thinks is best for him (it's not) and at the end of the day, Vic is his own person, and responsible for his own agenda

Vic owes nobody anything and having helped him out, after volunteering to do it and not being asked, gives you absolutely zero fucking right to tell him what to do.



It's amazing the absolutely ridiculous thing these cunts will just lie about. Even when it's easily disproven, these vicious, lying motherfuckers will just make shit up.

Fuck these absolute garbage people. And they expect people to take them seriously about their made up rape claims when these cocksuckers will literally lie about bottled water for no reason at all.
 
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Vic owes nobody anything and having helped him out, after volunteering to do it and not being asked, gives you absolutely zero fucking right to tell him what to do.




It's amazing the absolutely ridiculous thing these cunts will just lie about. Even when it's easily disproven, these vicious, lying motherfuckers will just make shit up.

Fuck these absolute garbage people. And they expect people to take them seriously about their made up rape claims when these cocksuckers will literally lie about bottled water for no reason at all.

Their whole MO is guilt by association. "I knew a person Vic did X to" etc. So they are associating the pettiness of the water thing with his plethora of sin they claim he is guilty of. It reinforces their prior "Diva" line of attack because it's easy to believe a Diva would spaz over something so trivial. It also adds another 'crime' to the list so that in 5 years there are more people who "Heard" about the time Vic 'did it."

It's simple Alynski based intersectionalism. They are building, maintaining and growing the narrative by that very same association they weaponized to begin with.
 
Vic owes nobody anything and having helped him out, after volunteering to do it and not being asked, gives you absolutely zero fucking right to tell him what to do.




It's amazing the absolutely ridiculous thing these cunts will just lie about. Even when it's easily disproven, these vicious, lying motherfuckers will just make shit up.

Fuck these absolute garbage people. And they expect people to take them seriously about their made up rape claims when these cocksuckers will literally lie about bottled water for no reason at all.

Have to play devils advocate on your reply to Blackbat. The same can be said of any of Vic's fans or his supporters, we don't own him anything either. But it's funny when the other side makes demands and all about what they are owned and are entitled to. Expecting something in return all the time is not a healthy outlook in life expect for when it comes to buying and paying because it breeds an entitled mentality. If someone doesn't give you anything for your hard work, then don't help them anyone but if someone fucks with you when you refuse to help them prior and after you did it, well that's a whole nother ball game.

And going with your reply to Nontransferable, these fuckers have been spared the consequences of their actions by the twitterverse and don't fear them. Every motherfucker also let them off the hook when they beg like Soye is doing right now. Anytime they do that, people need to double the fuck down on the pressure and go full predator on them. This wounded Gazelle shit is old.
 
It's amazing the absolutely ridiculous thing these cunts will just lie about. Even when it's easily disproven, these vicious, lying motherfuckers will just make shit up.

Fuck these absolute garbage people. And they expect people to take them seriously about their made up rape claims when these cocksuckers will literally lie about bottled water for no reason at all.
I think it’s more like “Okay I’ll make up some water bottle story. No way they’ll have pictures disproving this!”

Lmao surprise you dumb motherfuckers.
 
You've got a real chip on your shoulder about Nick, not sure how wanting Vic to actually stand up for himself is being selfish but I'll just agree to disagree with your strange "reeeeee Nick man bad because I'm projecting motives onto him!" narrative.

JYB told his acusers to show receipts or fuck off, shockingly they fucked. Vic just been used as a punching bag and he still won't even call someone a liar.
JYB is not in a legal battle tho.

I'll level with ya tho and say in the beginning it woulda been nice to have him be more on the offensive, before things got so crazy and went to court.
 
I think it's interesting to see how everyone is reacting to Nick saying what he said.

It's intriguing to see how polarizing it's become even for us.

But even in the realm of polarizing things, it's still mild because nobody is chimping out. We're having open discussions. Yeah some people might think we've got no right to put our two cents into what we think Nick should do but at least nobody is being an ass about it here.
 
I swear to God, Kiwi Farms does shit better than law firms, ploice departments, and the intelligence agencies of some countries at times.
Autism is the weapon to surpass Metal Gear. A weapon so powerful and devastating that if any one man were to weaponize and control it, he could plummet countries into civil war, reduce currencies to negative values, acquire infinite chicken tendies, move out of their mothers basement, and get laid.
 
I think it's interesting to see how everyone is reacting to Nick saying what he said.

It's intriguing to see how polarizing it's become even for us.

But even in the realm of polarizing things, it's still mild because nobody is chimping out. We're having open discussions. Yeah some people might think we've got no right to put our two cents into what we think Nick should do but at least nobody is being an ass about it here.
It's not even anything to discuss, let alone make it a topic for nearly a week now. Nick was drunk, made a "cops shoot black people" joke, and told the gelatinous blob of KV to kill each other. Then the troons misread "die in friendly fire" as "die in a fire," and ISWV speds took his comment as hostile towards Vic even though he only said he didn't have the balls to shoot a nigger. It is funny seeing lawtwitter dance around his words, like they want to defend Vic because everything Nick says is wrong, but they have to hate Vic so they can't disagree with him either.
 
So essentially one of kickvic's "big players" BASICALLY confirms that Vic hasn't ever "called for violence" basically "removes the rug out from under their own feet" in reference to their whole narrative of "Vic has been calling for his fans to go after his accusers!!!"
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