Trainwreck Onision / James Gregory Jackson / Gregory James Daniel/Jackson/Avaroe - Edgy king of the tweens, Vegan with deformed dick, Pedo, Destroying the Environment. Serial Domestic Abuser, Served the wrong Chris Hansen.

[CashMoney!]

Okay, so I slept on this and realized how fucking strange this sentence right here sounds? And no one seems to be talking about it?
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Greg thought the sound was Troy OUTSIDE, so he went UPSTAIRS to see if it is indeed him? What? Wouldn't you go outside to check if you think your kid is outside? How does going upstairs make sense?
Even if you argue "well maybe he went upstairs to see if Troy is in his room", if you heard a sound outside and your first thought is that it's your child, and they're potentially in danger, wouldn't your first instinct (and the most logical action) would be to look OUTSIDE first rather than checking if they're upstairs? Especially since you're in the garage which literally leads right outside?

I don't even know if what I just wrote can accurately portray how baffled I am at this.

It may be quicker to get to outside via the front door if there's shit in the garage to get past. He also wanted to see if it was actually Troy and then, as below, went to see what was happening. Like he didn't think anything was wrong until he got outside, apparently. This is plausible.

What is not plausible is how he was initially alerted to this happening. He said he heard tapping on the door which may have been the screen if Cloey was moving around on it semi-conscious... But what about that deep voice bullshit? Greg's whole explanation is fucky.

Was Cloey afraid and trying to get away? Did she hear fighting or think she was in danger? I, too, want to believe its open and shut bad parenting but Greg fucks up everything he's in the immediate vicinity of.

In the report they said there was a plastic spoon and empty capri sun packet on the driveway. Did they send her to bed with a spoon and capri sun lol? Weird. Sounds like she just woke up to get a snack while Lainey was cooking their shitty dinner.

Edited to add that I definitely think Cloey was up and awake, and Lainey knew that to have equipped her with a freshly opened Capri Sun and plastic spoon. She was probably hungry as kids are around dinner time so she had that as a snack and was wandering around. So she wasn't asleep in her room at their last knowledge. She would have been in the kitchen, where the fridge is, where Lainey was, to have obtained her food. Lainey wasn't watching her, neither was Greg.

 

[KingOfTheHalls]

Okay, so I slept on this and realized how fucking strange this sentence right here sounds? And no one seems to be talking about it?
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Greg thought the sound was Troy OUTSIDE, so he went UPSTAIRS to see if it is indeed him? What? Wouldn't you go outside to check if you think your kid is outside? How does going upstairs make sense?
Even if you argue "well maybe he went upstairs to see if Troy is in his room", if you heard a sound outside and your first thought is that it's your child, and they're potentially in danger, wouldn't your first instinct (and the most logical action) would be to look OUTSIDE first rather than checking if they're upstairs? Especially since you're in the garage which literally leads right outside?

I don't even know if what I just wrote can accurately portray how baffled I am at this.

the purple area is the living room/kitchen, and the green is the garage. The house is two stories and the garage and basement are on the bottom. So Greg went upstairs to the main area to check for Troy. When he saw that Troy was in the living room, he went outside to see what the noise actually was.

 

[The Fifth Waltz]

I was looking for the infamous house tour video but came across a 2019 "house cleanup" instead. It's fucking vile that their headboard is literally a mirror. I would also like to note their room seems to be in a different room of the house now? If memory serves me right I recall the basement being an open concept??

 

[Cheeseburger Picnic]

Fucking hell, Mr and Mrs Plainey, at this point it's acceptable to barge in there and drag her out yourselves. Worse parents have done more.

Their lack of action makes me wonder if this is how they treat her when she was growing up.

Lainey is an adult and a legal guardian of her children. The state has not determined that she and Onion are unfit parents or that Lainey is legally unable to make her own decisions. I'm not sure what shithole third world country you live in where parents of adults can do this but over here in the good ol US of A this would be considered kidnapping and would get them arrested and slapped with a no contact order the moment they got out on bail.

 

[RandallBoggs]

Now with the context of what the house looks like it does make sense, thank you. When I read "walked upstairs" I pictured him leaving the garage and walk to the second floor, but it does appear like the garage is lower than the rest of the house and there's probably stairs up from it.

 

[FrozenFlame]

Okay, so I slept on this and realized how fucking strange this sentence right here sounds? And no one seems to be talking about it?
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Greg thought the sound was Troy OUTSIDE, so he went UPSTAIRS to see if it is indeed him? What? Wouldn't you go outside to check if you think your kid is outside? How does going upstairs make sense?
Even if you argue "well maybe he went upstairs to see if Troy is in his room", if you heard a sound outside and your first thought is that it's your child, and they're potentially in danger, wouldn't your first instinct (and the most logical action) would be to look OUTSIDE first rather than checking if they're upstairs? Especially since you're in the garage which literally leads right outside?

I don't even know if what I just wrote can accurately portray how baffled I am at this.

If you look at the layout, he'd have to go upstairs anyway to go outside. Presuming, of course, that the garage isn't openable. I don't know how he does it, but generally when people turn their garage into something like an office or bedroom they either disable the opener or they put stuff in front of the garage door.

So he had to go upstairs and the living room is literally right there and once he saw his son watching TV, he probably went through the door to investigate.

 

[Niggernerd1]

"deep voice"
inb4 he thought Hansen was climbing into the swamp cave.

 

[a bootiful jung woman]

The kids bedrooms from the house tour, courtesy of the other farms. Seems like it happened in Troy's room from the description of a thick, padded headboard?

Note Lainey told the police the bed headboard did not overlap with the window and she didn't know how this could happen...

The police measured the distance from the window to the ground. They list it in the report as 149 inches. Which google tells me is 12 feet....can that be right?

Here's a visual:

 

[GinnyPotter]

I won't PL but I know a lot about the background of Washington CPS. They don't have the man power and get way too many calls daily to be able to actually investigate all of them. And even if they come to your house, if you tell them what they want to hear, they won't investigate any farther even if it's clear the child is in danger. The paperwork just gets put in a giant pile of other paperwork and just gets lost.

It's truly sad but CPS is actually not as helpful as they appear to be. If people keep calling CPS, nothing is going to happen.

Other organizations exist that actually will follow up and do something for those kids.

Just thought I would share that information.

 

[karadion]

I tried searching on Google and found nothing which this guy peaked my interest again since I do know about him. I haven't found any reference to SCRA. I decided to run a SCRA check on Onison. I know the discharge papers and everything are public but with significant redaction.



I just decided to verify this with my own query and got the following:


So SCRA definitely does match what is above in DD-214 record. I know it was kind of moot to do this. The main post of what variations of his name he has definitely reinforces that his true legal name at that point in time is Gregory James Daniel in that order.

Also my issue with the above DD-214 right now is that it appears to be a forgery. The fonts are wrong for example. The decoration box for example shouldn't be written like that.

 

[AnOminous]

Ok, time for a serious question: do you think that his daughter will be in danger once she reaches puberty? I am not only talking about his sexual behavior (even though it terrifies me because let's be real, it is possible he crosses the line ). I am talking about his inherent misogyny and mental cruelty toward women in general. This SOB will make a number on her criticizing her body, recording every mistake she does and so on.

Any child of any age in his custody or even exposed to his presence is in danger.

 

[Erica]

The police measured the distance from the window to the ground. They list it in the report as 149 inches. Which google tells me is 12 feet....can that be right?

Average height of a garage door is 7 feet, so looking at the pictures, this adds up. Only thing I’m confused by is how the kid got out the window, usually I find they’re too resistant for a 2 year old to move, but Greg could have shitty windows.

As for Greg’s and Lainy’s exact actions afterwords, I don’t know if there is too much to it. Greg is a coward so going upstairs for a vantage point makes sense to me.

EDIT: It also makes sense to me for him to go upstairs first to check on Troy if he suspected Troy was dropping something from the second story. I could believe it’s something he’s done before. I know we’re a usually giving Onision crap here, but I don’t think his movements were that unusual. Not to say he’s not irresponsible and a fucking asshole for filming her crushed skull, however. Just not a child murderer.

 

[Miss Misery]

Average height of a garage door is 7 feet, so looking at the pictures, this adds up. Only thing I’m confused by is how the kid got out the window, usually I find they’re too resistant for a 2 year old to move, but Greg could have shitty windows.

Especially for as malnourished and small as Cloey is...

 

[Screaming Mascara]

Especially for as malnourished and small as Cloey is...

What do you mean malnourished? Is the kid also not being fed correctly?

The more i read the more i think her surviving the fall (or not dying to another kind of neglect) was some sort of miracle.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

What do you mean malnourished? Is the kid also not being fed correctly?

The more i read the more i think her surviving the fall (or not dying to another kind of neglect) was some sort of miracle.

When they were spotted in dairy Queen, Cloey seemed small, thin and generally not well. Her hair looked shit too. Greg is a vegetarian/vegan and to our knowledge also feeds the kids that diet. However they don't cook fresh meals, only frozen shit.

So yeah she has a shit diet.

 

[Hide the Pain Sagman]

Idk if this has been mentioned before: but the screw up part I feel that whether or not the kids get taken away from Grunk and Jainey, they may inherited the same backwards behavior as them... Onion boy looks like he's cornered, but his influence seems to latch on longer since his victims were impressionable and troubled. And with his kids being in poor condition too the same might apply...

 

[MoonlightMoo]

Kids their age are very plastic. In a good environment they can thrive. Obviously they still can have some trauma but I think now it is the time when actions need to be taken so it is not irreversible.

Oh and about how Kai ended up with Greg even if she allegedly has good parents it is not that uncommon. I have worked with teens and when they have it all, when they are too sheltered, they can be too prone to making stupid decisions. Mostly because they know they have a safety net to land if things go awry and also because they want an easy way out of their parents restrictions.

 

[Screaming Mascara]

Kids their age are very plastic. In a good environment they can thrive. Obviously they still can have some trauma but I think now it is the time when actions need to be taken so it is not irreversible

There's a difference between a kid learning that touching a candle's flame hurts and a kid being neglected to the point she has to wrestle with death while her parents worry about the dogs.

Gruggle and Plainey are too dense or too heartless (pick your poison) to understand the nuance.

 

[MoonlightMoo]

I don’t know. Maybe I am being too hopeful but I have seen some cases when kids that are removed from neglectful parents get so SO much better in the right environment. However, the older they get, more difficult and painful the recovery becomes and obviously,the KID HAS TO BE REMOVED FROM THEIR SHITTY PARENTS FIRST

 

[RandallBoggs]

It's still possible for them to grow up to be decent people without a life that's too fucked up, but it needs to happen now. Cloey is young enough that she won't remember most of the things that happened and it's still not too late the fix the speech issues, it's very common for autistic kids especially to only start talking at ages 2-3 so there are programs and clinics whose whole purpose is to help kids like that develop properly. Troy, however, is running out of time. If everything I've read about him is true then it legit sounds like he's growing up to be a Greg 2.0. The amount of emotional issues this kid must have developed take years to treat and I don't think Greg and Lamey care enough to invest in that.