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Wait. How has the cv "hit india" can you link the news? 'Cause if it just broke free over there it would be the best source of further intel right now. I mean it'd probably cause a loooot of issues. But it'd put to the test all the theories about targetikg asians and give us a clearcut spread rate soon enough.
 
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About the bars: seriously its not necessarily that big a deal. It looks awful but it can avoid suicides and quarantine breaches. HOWEVER, again, and as @Jet Fuel Johny said, the issue is that this shit isn't in LIVABLE conditions. Hell it's like the pets that die from being left in the cars. You can't just enclose a tin can like that without proper insulation it literally kills people, the bars look bad but the rest IS bad.
If reports are true that cases have started sprouting up in India, then we are about to see some serious shit.

Especially if it hits certain regions. The death toll would be insanity.

We'll have to wait and see. India certainly is an interesting experiment because in terms of infrastructure and customs they're on par with china but their government, while dumb, is substantially less retarded than the CCP, and has taken foreign advice in the past, so we might just get a solid comparison there. Also it sure will test the whole "lung protein" angle, if that theory is right it'll be less lethal against indians than chinese. We'll have to see
 
No shit. Take a look at the windows. They all have bars over them. What the fuck. Those places will be charnel houses in no time at all. God help those poor people.

If those are prefab dwellings or field offices, it’s not surprising they’d have bars. Outside of the US it’s practically mandatory; Latin America, for example, has a ton of neighborhoods full of tiny concrete masonry hovels that still have big-ass steel bars on the windows.

I find it interesting that when the chinks build a hospital out of what are effectively containerized building site offices, people are pretending to be surprised that those offices have bars on the windows by default. I just love the idea that the Chinamen tasked with engineering it would figure out their layout, rush to start laying the pads out and build the second floor access, order their prefabs to be trucked in from some factory that has hundreds of them sitting out back and right at the last minute they stop and go "Wait... these don't look mean enough to Western doomcopers. We've got to weld some bars over the windows, even if it means delaying construction!"

Let’s not let the bars distract us from the fact that they’re still making massive semi-permanent hospital complexes. It’s still scary as shit that they’re investing in what appears to be the long haul.

I know there’s some hypocrisy in criticizing the Chinese response so far, but lets not kid ourselves about the infrastructure issues that led to this, and where it’s going if things continue to get out of hand.

The final stage of socialized medicine is the state building a concrete commie bloc for you to die in.

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Can't wait to see their roller coasters

I’m sure I’ve seen this design before...

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Let's take a look at the old scoreboard as of 3/02/20:

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Meanwhile, self-criticism time:


China's top leadership has admitted "shortcomings and deficiencies" in the country's response to the deadly coronavirus outbreak.

The Politburo Standing Committee said the national emergency management system had to improve.

A crackdown on wildlife markets, where the virus emerged, has been ordered.

By the end of Monday, more than 20,000 cases and 425 deaths had been reported in China - an increase of more than 3,000 confirmed cases in a single day.

On Monday alone, there had been 64 new deaths, China's National Health Commission said - all in Hubei province, where the virus is believed to have originated.

The number of deaths in China, excluding Hong Kong, now exceeds the 349 killed on the mainland in the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (Sars) outbreak of 2002-03.

There are more than 150 cases in other countries, with one death in the Philippines.

The new coronavirus causes severe acute respiratory infection and symptoms usually start with a fever, followed by a dry cough.

The outbreak took its toll on Chinese shares when financial markets reopened on Monday following the Lunar New Year holiday. The Shanghai Composite index closed nearly 8% lower, its biggest daily drop for more than four years.

What has the Politburo said?
Reports of the standing committee meeting, chaired by President Xi Jinping, were carried by the official Xinhua news agency.

It said lessons had to be learned from what had been a "big test" of China's governance system.


"In response to the shortcomings and deficiencies that were exposed responding to this epidemic, we must improve our national emergency management system and improve our abilities in handling urgent and dangerous tasks," the report said.

One area to be tackled is the trade in illegal wildlife, which should be "resolutely banned", while supervision of markets should be strengthened.

It is thought a market in the city of Wuhan in Hubei province was the source of the viral outbreak. On Monday, a study by a Chinese virologist said bats were the likely source.

Wuhan remains the "top priority" and additional medical staff will be sent there, the committee said.

It said officials should assume full responsibility for their duties in epidemic prevention, and that those who failed to perform them would be punished.

It has been revealed that two officials in the town of Huajiahe were removed from their posts after a teenager with cerebral palsy died when his father - and sole carer - was quarantined for suspected coronavirus.

What is happening on the ground?
Monday's deaths, at 64, mark a new high for fatalities in a single day - topping the previous high of 57 on Sunday.

Wuhan has seen the speedy construction of two new hospitals, although they are not yet fully operational.

Provinces with populations larger than 300 million have been ordered to make the wearing of masks in public mandatory.




But there is a shortfall in equipment and China's foreign ministry on Monday issued a global appeal.

Spokesperson Hua Chunying said: "What China urgently needs at present are medical masks, protective suits and safety goggles."

Some cities, including Shanghai, have extended the Lunar New Year holiday, with many schools still closed.


Hong Kong, which has 15 confirmed cases, has suspended 10 out of 13 border crossings with mainland China.

The mortality rate for the new coronavirus is about 2.1%, currently far lower than the 9.6% of SARS.

How are other countries responding?
The health ministers of the G7 group of nations - the US, Germany, Japan, UK, Canada, France and Italy - held a conference call on Monday.

German Health Minister Jens Spahn said they had agreed to co-ordinate on travel regulations, viral research and co-operation with the World Health Organization (WHO) and China.

Many nations have evacuated their citizens from affected areas of China, often placing them in quarantine on arrival home.

The US has ordered the departure of all US personnel family members under the age of 21, and any US citizen who has been in Hubei province will be subject to 14 days' quarantine.

Ms Hua said the US measures were "excessive" and contrary to WHO recommendations, accusing the US of "spreading fear".

The WHO has warned that closing borders could even accelerate the spread of the virus, if travellers enter countries unofficially.

More than 20 countries have recorded confirmed cases.

The latest on travel restrictions:

  • Denying entry to all foreign visitors who have recently been to China: US, Australia, Singapore
  • Denying entry to foreigners travelling from mainland China: New Zealand, Israel. (Russia will also apply these restrictions, though not through Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport)
  • Denying entry to foreigners who have visited Hubei province: Japan, South Korea
  • Temporarily suspending all flights to mainland China: Egypt, Finland, Indonesia, the UK, Italy
  • Closing the border with China: Mongolia, Russia (partially)
  • The body that represents some of the world's largest cruise ship operators, the Cruise Lines International Association, announced on Monday that passengers and crew members who had recently travelled to China would not be allowed to board vessels

More than 75,000 people may have been infected in Wuhan, experts say.

But estimates by the University of Hong Kong suggest the total number of cases could be far higher than official figures.

A report on the early stages of the outbreak by the Lancet medical journal said most patients who died had pre-existing conditions.

The report found that, of the first 99 patients treated at the Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan, 40 had a weak heart or damaged blood vessels. A further 12 had diabetes.

Most people infected are likely to fully recover - just as they would from a normal flu.

An expert at China's National Health Commission (NHC) said that one week was sufficient for a recovery from mild coronavirus symptoms.

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Site office. At a construction site. Not generally known for having large office buildings with glass facades associated with them.
Okay lets say you are right ( even though you aren't arguing in good faith and ignoring other points people have brought up) these are in fact premade office containers. As someone who has worked in these containers can tell you there is no way that any sort of health standard can be maintained in them. They are meant to be satellite buildings so more often than not they weren't built with plumbing in mind. My local college has several of these and they don't even use them during the winter. Your second argument has been "at least they are trying" but that has been addressed (and ignored by you) the military should have the capability of creating emergency facilities. As outsiders we have seen very little assistance from the military but what we have seen is a very understaffed and under supplied health network. Slapping together a bunch of prefab "offices" doesn't change the fact this is a hot mess.
 
Regarding the barred windows iirc in the first couple of days after word got out that they existed at all there was the same model found on alibaba, and the bars are standard with the unit. It was somewhere in this thread but I'm not going to bother to look it up.
 
That two-week hospital has really gotten my autism flowing.

What do you think happens when it rains? Like, really rains. Not just some small piss rain like we saw in today's pictures. What happens to that place when it rains and there are not a lot of places for the water to go. How much time do you think they spent figuring out the drainage plane? Is there potential to spread illness via wastewater or even contaminated rainwater? Where is the normal human waste going to go?

And let's go back to those crooked doors for a second. The average Chinese patient is likely to be on the thinner side. We know these airlock doors are only latched shut with simple thumb latches like you would see in any kitchen. We know these airlock doors do not recess or offer any type of hermetic seal, the seal is likely a simple single or double rubber seal that relies on the pressure applied by the thumb latch. I don't see it as a stretch to assume some patients are going to get into those airlock channels and in such a position it probably would not be too difficult to kick the hall-side door out with normal force.

So these cells are not air-tight (look at the duct work in the rear or the stupid airlock hatches that don't appear to cycle air) and these cells are not even capable of keeping a person detained.

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This shot gives you an idea of how they are rolling out their construction. It also shows you how they are constructing their HVAC system. Ducts are being wrapped externally. It kind of sort of looks pretty normal... but I feel like maybe a disease quarantine facility should look a little... not like a commercial/residential facility.
 
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This shot gives you an idea of how they are rolling out their construction. It also shows you how they are constructing their HVAC system. Ducts are being wrapped externally. It kind of sort of looks pretty normal... but I feel like maybe a disease quarantine facility should look a little... not like a commercial/residential facility.
Showed that to a friend with experience in being a US Army medic who did treatment in Africa and the Middle East during crisis during the 1990's and early 2000's before being shifted to the Globohomo War. They pointed out the same things I saw when looking at it.

Number one, you can't do any positive or negative pressure system worth a shit. Look at the fucking gaps in the walls between the siding. Look at the way the window frames are all off slightly. All prefab buildings. Sure, that's good for storing patients in, but your shit needs to be custom made for medical anything, or at least with vapor-barrier sheeting and special drywall. Even then, the ducting is shared ducting, and that's not good. There should be one-way filters on each room and those don't even look like they'd be HIPPA filters. Cross contamination is going to be fucking UGLY across those Pollution Goblin Hives.

Having worked construction and done landscape modification on my own property before, the part above about drainage concerns are right on the money, but there's more than that...

They bolted those things together, the first heavy rain or a few days of medium rain, will cause the ground to soften and the buildings to shift. Not much, a quarter inch or half inch at the most, but enough to break any seals they put up. Then the rain gets between the prefab units. Now, normally, this would just be turning the drywall into soup, getting into the insulation, rusting out fixators, shit like that. But THIS means that you've got airgaps.

We already have multiple sources saying that this shit is transmittable by feces, is it transferable by liquid waste? What happens if you've got Chad Thunderlungs vomiting up against the wall and it streams down and into the water gathering beneath this things? Or into the isolation unit below him? If these things are kept in a constant temperature, the drywall getting wet if it isn't the right kind means you've got a warm soup behind the walls that normally breeds a lot of fucking black mold.

There's not decon showers, so that means medical personnel either have to go to a separate station and decon or they're going from one patient to the next covered in Pollution Goblin Stank and infecting the whole down-stream.

You wouldn't risk keeping homeless there for longer than a couple of weeks here in the States. Building codes exist for a goddamn reason.

They might as well have lined the inside with asbestos plating so they can put people in there and just douse them in thermite enhanced napalm.

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With the fact that the site had minimum preperation and we all know how pollution goblins do shit, you can expect groundwater contamination and much worse.

See, hospitals require a LOT of power (I'd like to get a look at their transfer box, see if they're actually moving a shitload of power to run diagnostic and treatment machinery or if it's just enough to run the HVAC system and the lights), and that means lots of power lines. One thing cheapjack construction does is stretch the wires pretty tight, so they use the bare minimum of wire because you can save whole FEET of wires. That means the wires stress and stretch when the building settles or shifts. IF the gauge is thick enough and the insulation is thin enough you can get electricity migration along the lines or worse. You can get metal studs and fasteners that are sitting there with 220V just waiting for you to touch it.

Then we have clean water in (LOL, what am I saying it's a pollution goblin hive, I don't think their bodies can tolerate clean water) and sewage issues, along with seepage and migration. Imagine the secondary shit going on if you get a shifted sewage line with a trickle of fresh water and then all the contaminates from the buildings seeping into it. Underneath this, within a fucking WEEK, could be a goddamn biologists worst fucking nightmare.

I mean, sure, the pollution goblins whipped their slaves until they got a fucking prefab stack of hovels thrown together in a couple of days and the press is sucking dick can calling it a hospital instead of a isolated hospice from Warhmmer 40K used to segregate pollution goblins.

I mean, here in the States and in Europe, we could do the same thing if you got rid of licenses, building codes, and any expectation of it lasting longer than 3 weeks before collapsing into a rusted pile of garbage, dead bodies, and the unfortunate rat or two who got caught in the collapse while they were eating.
 
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Family members I mentioned a good few pages back have been sending me covert pictures of literally every chink in a mask they see on their travels because they're fucking autistic.

Spoiler - there's flocks of em. And they're the only ones wearing masks, as usual. AND GLOVES. They're doing gloves now. No white, black, brown globetrotters are even bothering nor do they give a single fuck about Corona.

Also lmfao, that hospital reminds me of when North Korea bring out those massive beautiful plates of food for outside visitors and it's all stale old stuff for show. Those dang commies(:_(

God help the people who have to be 'treat' in those shitshacks.
 
Been seven days since the wallet came in, and I love it still <3. Coming up to two weeks--the second item has arrived in California and left the carrier there yesterday. Have the second clock at the ready.

Say, if any Kiwis do end up verified to have died from Corona-chan, can there be a special deceased banner for them, like a skull-and-crossbones, or a Corona-chan dancing or planting a Chinese flag in front of a tombstone?
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I have been trying to translate more reports out of the country about the virus but am not finding many reports and don't know exactly which papers/sources to trust from Korea.

As previously mentioned, do not trust the MBC and KBS news company. Their board members are appointed to by the current political leaders who in a party led by China numbah one sympathizers. This company was protested previously under conservative leadership as it is state run. Oddly enough, those protests stopped happening when the new "progressive" leadership took over.

We don't want state run media, well unless it is our side...
Edit: Those protests were from 2017 when the country was under conservative leadership.

This is article regarding the protests.

State-funded Korea News outlet list:
Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation
Yonhap
Korean Broadcasting System
EBS
SBS
The Korea Herald


"A South Korean patient diagnosed with new coronavirus has recuperated enough to be discharged from hospital. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), a 55-year-old man (Patient 2) diagnosed with the Wuhan coronavirus on Jan. 24 is going through a final review by the health authorities to be declared fully cured and allowed to be discharged.

“We’ve stopped administering antiviral agent as his symptoms of pneumonia are improving. The virus test result was also negative,” said Jeong Eun-gyeong, the head of the KCDC. It appears that he will be allowed to go home as early as on Tuesday.

Amid an explosive increase of patients and dead victims of the coronavirus within China, the South Korean government predicts that the next seven to 10 days will be the critical juncture in containing the spread of the new coronavirus. The Central Disaster Management Headquarters have decided to take a comprehensive measure to put everyone affected in the patient’s contact points under house quarantine, starting from Tuesday. “Contagion is worsening in China, so we are viewing that the next seven to 10 days will be critical,” said Park Neung-hoo, the Health and Welfare Minister of South Korea.

There were no additional patients in South Korea on Monday. Of the 490 potential patients showing similar symptoms, 414 proved negative and became released from quarantine. For the rest 51, the test is still underway. Three hundred twenty-six Korean citizens who boarded the second plane back home from Wuhan City, the epicenter of the disease, were all tested negative.

“The new coronavirus is exhibiting patterns strikingly different than other contagious diseases in terms of higher infectivity, the possibility of symptomless transmission, and lack of sure,” said South Korean President Moon Jae-jin during his weekly meeting with Prime Minister Chung Sye-gyun. “The prime minister must play a central role along with the cabinet members in making an all-out effort to stop the spread of the disease.”"
 
Showed that to a friend with experience in being a US Army medic who did treatment in Africa and the Middle East during crisis during the 1990's and early 2000's before being shifted to the Globohomo War. They pointed out the same things I saw when looking at it.

Number one, you can't do any positive or negative pressure system worth a shit. Look at the fucking gaps in the walls between the siding. Look at the way the window frames are all off slightly. All prefab buildings. Sure, that's good for storing patients in, but your shit needs to be custom made for medical anything, or at least with vapor-barrier sheeting and special drywall. Even then, the ducting is shared ducting, and that's not good. There should be one-way filters on each room and those don't even look like they'd be HIPPA filters. Cross contamination is going to be fucking UGLY across those Pollution Goblin Hives.

Having worked construction and done landscape modification on my own property before, the part above about drainage concerns are right on the money, but there's more than that...

They bolted those things together, the first heavy rain or a few days of medium rain, will cause the ground to soften and the buildings to shift. Not much, a quarter inch or half inch at the most, but enough to break any seals they put up. Then the rain gets between the prefab units. Now, normally, this would just be turning the drywall into soup, getting into the insulation, rusting out fixators, shit like that. But THIS means that you've got airgaps.

We already have multiple sources saying that this shit is transmittable by feces, is it transferable by liquid waste? What happens if you've got Chad Thunderlungs vomiting up against the wall and it streams down and into the water gathering beneath this things? Or into the isolation unit below him? If these things are kept in a constant temperature, the drywall getting wet if it isn't the right kind means you've got a warm soup behind the walls that normally breeds a lot of fucking black mold.

There's not decon showers, so that means medical personnel either have to go to a separate station and decon or they're going from one patient to the next covered in Pollution Goblin Stank and infecting the whole down-stream.

You wouldn't risk keeping homeless there for longer than a couple of weeks here in the States. Building codes exist for a goddamn reason.

They might as well have lined the inside with asbestos plating so they can put people in there and just douse them in thermite enhanced napalm.

EDIT: I forgot the rest because I'm exceptional

With the fact that the site had minimum preperation and we all know how pollution goblins do shit, you can expect groundwater contamination and much worse.

See, hospitals require a LOT of power (I'd like to get a look at their transfer box, see if they're actually moving a shitload of power to run diagnostic and treatment machinery or if it's just enough to run the HVAC system and the lights), and that means lots of power lines. One thing cheapjack construction does is stretch the wires pretty tight, so they use the bare minimum of wire because you can save whole FEET of wires. That means the wires stress and stretch when the building settles or shifts. IF the gauge is thick enough and the insulation is thin enough you can get electricity migration along the lines or worse. You can get metal studs and fasteners that are sitting there with 220V just waiting for you to touch it.

Then we have clean water in (LOL, what am I saying it's a pollution goblin hive, I don't think their bodies can tolerate clean water) and sewage issues, along with seepage and migration. Imagine the secondary shit going on if you get a shifted sewage line with a trickle of fresh water and then all the contaminates from the buildings seeping into it. Underneath this, within a fucking WEEK, could be a goddamn biologists worst fucking nightmare.

I mean, sure, the pollution goblins whipped their slaves until they got a fucking prefab stack of hovels thrown together in a couple of days and the press is sucking dick can calling it a hospital instead of a isolated hospice from Warhmmer 40K used to segregate pollution goblins.

I mean, here in the States and in Europe, we could do the same thing if you got rid of licenses, building codes, and any expectation of it lasting longer than 3 weeks before collapsing into a rusted pile of garbage, dead bodies, and the unfortunate rat or two who got caught in the collapse while they were eating.
We should thank our lucky stars it hasn't rained yet. Not a single Chinese city has good storm drains. You get brown sludgy water full of God knows what at every slight depression every time a heavy rain lasts for more than a few hours or a steady medium rain lasts for more than 24 hours.
 
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