Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Tour of Italy]

A foundation slab that had, optimistically speaking, a week to cure can be called many things, but not solid.

New construction typically continues on top of curing concrete with less time than that. People are crawling all over everything, but that’s nowhere near design level service loads in traditional construction.

This has been posted before, but for reference here’s a link to the prefabs they seem to be using, or at least something very similar:

Source ready made cottage modular hotel construction on m.alibaba.com

ready made cottage modular hotel construction, You can get more details about modular hotel construction, cottage, ready made cottage from mobile site on m.alibaba.com

m.alibaba.com

It’s worth a read for the product descriptions alone. I can tell you right away that similar light gage steel construction is relatively common in the US. Single units of this should be fairly stable, if on the edge of safety.

The floors are slightly raised to allow room for plumbing/electric, which is good. It’s not a ton of space, but it mitigates the need for cutting through joists to run conduit (although this is certainly still happening; cutting through load bearing members is basically the official international language of contractors).

What I’m skeptical of, aside from some of the other hilariously worded claims, is the purported ability for these units to be stacked. The company says up to 3 units high, so far I’ve only seen 2 high in pictures of the temporary hospitals.

Additionally, I have not seen any lateral force resisting system to speak of. The method with thin gage construction is typically cross-braced steel straps, which themselves are easy to hide but I haven’t seen evidence that they’ve given any real consideration for connection design. A single unit is likely not going fold in on itself, but once you start stacking high and deep, you’ve got to start tying things together to create a load path to the foundation. Wind uplift is likely going to be the controlling failure state.

When I have a little more time this morning I’ll do a quick analysis to get an idea as to what kind of load these units can take.

The TLDR is that these things are probably unsafe, especially for hospital live loads, but it’s not immediately apparent that they’re blatantly unsafe, without digging a little deeper into the math.

 

[TheRedChair]

The most logical scenario is they used a bioweapon shipped from Canada on pigs, some dipshit sold diseased pigs to a wet market for human consumption, and thus set off a pandemic that is slowly killing the country and threatening the world's economy.

You can't make this stuff up, only Communists are this stupid. It's always pigs that destroy them. And they always demonize ethnic groups that hate pigs, Jews and Muslims are always the subject of their wrath.

Manuel Castells wrote a great series of books on the Information Age, he talks about Soviet efforts to create a microprocessor. They had one clean room in the entire Soviet Union, it was managed by a pig farmer. That pig farmer got the job by being a loyal party member, managed teams of engineers according to party doctrine. They accomplished nothing.

Say what you want about Chernobyl, the Soviets never made it to the Information Age because of what we now call 'equity.' Stupid fucking communists, we're watching it happen again in real time. A pig takes down a great People's Republic. God forbid muslims ever discover Marx.

Since you mentioned about RussiaLand (Another Failed state in Epic proportions), They are so fucking corrupt that they are worse than Mexico in the Corruption index. You can look that up here. It's just a fun tool to look at things.

Corruption Perceptions Index 2019

The 2019 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) shows corruption is more pervasive in countries where big money can flow freely into electoral campaigns and where governments listen only to the voices of wealthy or well-connected individuals.

www.transparency.org

Obviously this is for 2019. And yes China should go down a bit after the shit they are doing now.

And yes I know a lot about RussiaLand too.

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

Something I've been wondering, when does the law of diminishing returns kick in? When does it become cheaper to just shoot the infected rather than treat them? The PR hit would be severe, but it would allow them to keep their economy intact.

It's China, they are probably already killing off a couple million people as we speak.

 

[Coleslaw]

China refusing US aid then crying we aren't giving them free shit

Oh they know full well they have no right to want shit from you guys. They are just putting on a song and dance so's they can have a convenient scapegoat to point fingers at when people start asking uncomfortable questions.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Jesus Christ that's fucking awful. I feel bad for all the common folks stuck in that shit hole.

One could argue that the "common folks" are the reason it's a shithole in the first place

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

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I call bullshit due to it being out of China's mouth and claiming the vast majority of deaths are old people that were totally sick anyways. It's probably 5-6% at the very least with debatable post infection damage.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Oh they know full well they have no right to want shit from you guys. They are just putting on a song and dance so's they can have a convenient scapegoat to point fingers at when people start asking uncomfortable questions.

Expect demonstrations against Japan soon, too. When China needs to deflect blame, old issues of WW2 always just "randomly" pop up and act as a vent for the population.

I call bullshit due to it being out of China's mouth and claiming the vast majority of deaths are old people that were totally sick anyways. It's probably 5-6% at the very least with debatable post infection damage.

Wouldn't surprise me, the question is: How will this turn out for other nations. In China, the death toll might as well be higher due to medical supplies running short from the massive demand that hit them all at once. I guess we can assume lethality will be far above the average that we see in USA or Europe... well, would be. China is going to have the lowest official lethality quota internationally and inconspicuously many empty apartments for no discernable reason.

 

[Not Really Here]

$242 B is a lot higher than the $175 B they announced last week.

they hold about $20 Trillion in US Debt.

Wow, when I looked two months ago they only held around 1 trillion of US debt.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

Who owns a record $21.21 trillion in U.S. national debt? Some 70% is owned by Americans in one form or another. Foreigners own the rest.

www.marketwatch.com

Citation on this exceptional change you assert?

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

I call bullshit due to it being out of China's mouth and claiming the vast majority of deaths are old people that were totally sick anyways. It's probably 5-6% at the very least with debatable post infection damage.

we will never find out

Why China’s latest demographic data is a major cause for concern

The unexplained discrepancies in official data from different sources for China’s birth rate and population size only underline how the government manipulates the figures to justify its population control policies, and allow past mistakes to go unpunished.

www.scmp.com

This is probably some very pissed neighbours of china trashtallking the chinese, but they have valid points such as the govermers and mayors have incentive to lie about population growth and size. Add in hospitals selling empty certificates to make it easier for parents get benefits for their children under hukou system. So we will never find out the real numbers cuz china maybe after ccp falls and is pressed by everyone to be more transparent MAYBE .

Right now there is estimate that that china has about 121 million double counted people. Or extra. I wouldnt be suprised if this increases the next few years to cover up death rates .

 

[Apathy is my superpower]

Already 12 people infected in Germany (10 adults, 2 kids) - the latest person the be infected was also a worker at Webasto.

https://www.merkur.de/welt/coronavi...wie-pandemie-hund-katze-news-zr-13519455.html

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Wow, when I looked two months ago they only held around 1 trillion of US debt.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

Who owns a record $21.21 trillion in U.S. national debt? Some 70% is owned by Americans in one form or another. Foreigners own the rest.

www.marketwatch.com

Citation on this exceptional change you assert?

You got me. I assigned the entirety of US Debt to the Chinese, awful mistake on my part.

That's what I get for posting too early.

 

[Apathy is my superpower]

Today in the Austrian news (reputable newspaper) - short summary in English:

The government of South Korea announced that a South Korean woman got sick (coronavirus confirmed) after she got back from her travels in Thailand.
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https://www.derstandard.at/story/20...fektionen-ueber-20-000-gestiegen-erster-toter

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Today in the Austrian news (reputable newspaper) - short summary in English:

The government of South Korea announced that a South Korean woman alledgedly infected herself with the coronavirus during her travels in Thailand.

https://www.derstandard.at/story/20...fektionen-ueber-20-000-gestiegen-erster-toter
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I've head about that case, but she infected herself? Haven't read that, are you translating it right?

In any case, it's bad news. It means it is taking hold in Southeast Asia, which (as I said before) absolutely does not have the resources to fight it. At all. And in many of those countries, the government is trying downplaying the problem, probably to keep the tourist bucks flowing.

They are fucked, maybe even worse than the Chinese.

 

[Not Really Here]

You got me. I assigned the entirety of US Debt to the Chinese, awful mistake on my part.

That's what I get for posting too early.

Most people assume China holds all US debt, it's a re.tarded meme started in the '80's.

 

[ulsterscotsman]

More horrifying hospital footage.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I've head about that case, but she infected herself? Haven't read that, are you translating it right?

In any case, it's bad news. It means it is taking hold in Southeast Asia, which (as I said before) absolutely does not have the resources to fight it. At all. And in many of those countries, the government is trying downplaying the problem, probably to keep the tourist bucks flowing.

They are fucked, maybe even worse than the Chinese.

I guess the shit will hit the "tourism industry" in Thailand very hard.

 

[MechanicusAdmin]

Your daily deadly update



With no confirmed cases in Western Australia yet (or more so, none reported) there is still a fair supply of masks and the like available for the time being.

Chinese owned mining company CITIC Pacific, decided to isolate at least 20 of their workforce in the north of WA yesterday as a precautionary measure. The Sino Iron Ore Mine workers, who had visited China on or since January 17th, have been asked to take voluntary isolation for 14 days.

https://fntalk.com/companies/pilbara-workers-placed-in-isolation-as-coronavirus-response-expanded/

The Kwinana BP Oil Refinery in the South West of WA has now issued notices that anyone who has traveled within, to or from China in the last two weeks will be refused entry onto the Refinery with zero exceptions, this not only stands for on site workers and visitors but more importantly, the international oil tanker crews that arrive every few days. Having your ships Chinese crew quarantined while they and your ship sit idle in a channel offshore for weeks could itself be a hygiene nightmare

 

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[Apathy is my superpower]

I've head about that case, but she infected herself? Haven't read that, are you translating it right?

In any case, it's bad news. It means it is taking hold in Southeast Asia, which (as I said before) absolutely does not have the resources to fight it. At all. And in many of those countries, the government is trying downplaying the problem, probably to keep the tourist bucks flowing.

They are fucked, maybe even worse than the Chinese.

Sorry, wonky translation: She got sick after she came back from Thailand.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Seems like something is about to pop off with a massive spike in number of cases. By my vague recollections, we were at 1600 2 Fridays ago, 9000 last Friday, and now 3 days later over 20,000. I think it's gonna snowball fast.

Also while the recovered went higher than deaths a couple days back, i've been most interested in the locations. Outside of 3 people in Australia and Japan, all the claimed "recovered" cases are not in the First World. Most are in China.