Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Probably regular flu, still well done, when it comes to quarantine autism saves lives.
Yeah well it took a lot of effort to even get him quarantined. The only reason my director even allowed it was because one the patients family members came back from China. The original placement they were going to place him in a ward with other possible immunocompromised patients. If that happened and he had the wu flu we'd probably get our asses sued in to bankruptcy. Quarantining is ten times more expensive than a regular hospital bed. Insurance pays shit on that.
 
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>Chinese woman wearing a mask, indicating she might be infected
>Imma jump this bitch for my safety


Logic 101.
Dindus, vital to the equation of clown world.

China neets are more productive than the japs
The government needs them active when they're drafted for martial law.
 
Did he attack her for wearing a mask though? He probably thought she called him a nigger to his face. They hate the Chinese, especially since they've moved into the housing projects. I mean they hated me when I worked in lower Manhattan because I spoke some Mandarin/Ningpo dialect with customers and used to order from a place with a cook from Shanghai. They have a "Us vs the Chinks" mentality there.

Wouldn't be shocked if she said 那个, which sounds like "niggah", but means "that one" or is just used like "uuuhhh" in English and he just went apeshit on her.
 
Throw in variables on testing for 'party member' or 'person of high social merit' and it probably gets even harder for some to get tested.
yeah, at least in China that would make sense. would be cool if the CDC could allow other hospitals to test instead of making really careful decisions about who's worthy enough to test. if you're not from wuhan or in very close contact w someone from wuhan you prob won't be considered.
 
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He literally just got in her face and called her a diseased bitch until he became fully unhinged and started hitting her and she ran away, which is when the recorded video started. The guy who shot the vid wanted to get the guy's face on camera because he's hedging on the internet's weaponized autism to ID him.
Wouldn't be shocked if she said 那个, which sounds like "niggah", but means "that one" or is just used like "uuuhhh" in English and he just went apeshit on her.
This happens all the time there and then niggers wonder why the Chinese want nothing to do with them. The "Thas raciss!" mantra doesn't work on them.
 
Quarantining is ten times more expensive than a regular hospital bed. Insurance pays shit on that.
Things like this are why I worry about 1st world containment. A lot of hospital administrators are gonna look at profit vs cost vs risk, and bank on profit until it's absolutely too late. In their defense, gambling on quarantine and losing would be prohibitively expensive - it's hard to even blame them for that. Just the whole damned system.
 
Throw in variables on testing for 'party member' or 'person of high social merit' and it probably gets even harder for some to get tested.
Yeah we literally have to send shit to test to a government agency for bioweapon grades viruses. My director refuses to acknowledge pubically the possibility of wu flu until we get results back in. But we're scared shitless at the possibility no less.
Things like this are why I worry about 1st world containment. A lot of hospital administrators are gonna look at profit vs cost vs risk, and bank on profit until it's absolutely too late. In their defense, gambling on quarantine and losing would be prohibitively expensive - it's hard to even blame them for that. Just the whole damned system.
Yup it sucks because if he really have more than likely we may ship him off to a bigger hospital that can eat up that cost.
 
Unsure if anyone has said this as of yet, so apologies if it's already been discussed.

Do we know what kind of abilities China has to diagnose people en mass. I imagine it's not too difficult in Beijing at the moment, lots of resources few cases, but in Hubei the official numbers might be wrong due to the spread potentially outstripping the ability of medics to actually carry out adequate tests on enough people.
 
I mean yes but part of it has to be related to the fact that it has a threshold. If China is locking down cities and preventing people from travelling to other places then once that city has reached the maximum number of people infected living within it and they aren't allowed to leave- it has to stagnant- if they're actually doing what is being claimed because it will either infect everyone or eventually run out of hosts available to infect.

I'm curious though. 12 People in Germany and one of those is the guy whose Kid went back to school, who IIRC from following the thread was found to have it fairly early (and what about the person who infected him?). What is the status of that guy? Is he better? Recovering still? Is he in ICU? Were his symptoms Mild? Moderate? Really bad? The same for all the people outside of China, the map gives cases and doesn't really address how they're recovering or the severity of their symptoms if they developed them. The whole tracking website doesn't really help in figuring out what exactly 'recovered' means when it comes to this outbreak. I know it can cause pneumonia but not having anything concrete on how fast it is onset, the severity of those symptoms, etc. Seems weird to me. We have no rates on age or sex and how it differs between the two either.

You'd think if it's even more deadly than what China is providing for numbers that we'd see more dead in the ones that are outside the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W4zyQ_dqxI Good video to watch
(EDIT: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191 ←paper source for the video above)

(TL;DW, Most important bits are: we know that the disease is capable of somewhat blocking white blood cell production so your immune system is weakened after infection. If you develop pneumonia you will need some oxygen.)

Not to be the bearer of bad news but rando chinese person isn't actually properly protecting themselves.

Now this is anecdotal, but I have not seen a single example of rando chinese mainlander wearing eye protection.
Recall that the SARS expert guy they brought in like 2 weeks ago caught the disease while wearing an N95 mask, because as he speculated he was infected through his eyes.

Since infected are literally everywhere in china now, a quarantine isn't going to stop it. Also again anecdotal, but from what I've seen chinese outside the quarantine don't think it's a big deal and are not taking proper precautions.

To address the "well when everyone is infected and becomes immune this will become a minor problem"
There are already multiple strains out and about, so while you may recover from one, you can get reinfected by a different strain. (I assume this is what the ccp means when they stated reinfection by the disease is occuring).

Also sidenote: we do know that n-cov appears to target the ACE2 protein in the lungs which asians happen to have more of than other races. This explains why its seemingly more severe in asian cases than other races thus far.
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Unsure if anyone has said this as of yet, so apologies if it's already been discussed.

Do we know what kind of abilities China has to diagnose people en mass. I imagine it's not too difficult in Beijing at the moment, lots of resources few cases, but in Hubei the official numbers might be wrong due to the spread potentially outstripping the ability of medics to actually carry out adequate tests on enough people.
Wuhan ran out of medical supplies yesterday/early today. Hospitals in the quarantine zone are only getting roughly 100 new test kits a day.
 
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Unsure if anyone has said this as of yet, so apologies if it's already been discussed.

Do we know what kind of abilities China has to diagnose people en mass. I imagine it's not too difficult in Beijing at the moment, lots of resources few cases, but in Hubei the official numbers might be wrong due to the spread potentially outstripping the ability of medics to actually carry out adequate tests on enough people.
Yes and it's been discussed. Rumor is from collueges over seas they have little to no capacity to carry out testing en masse. The resources are limited and cases are overwhelming.
 
Yup it sucks because if he really have more than likely we may ship him off to a bigger hospital that can eat up that cost.

Then you throw them in a Rural/Metro or Mercy Medical transport bus staffed by a paramedic and EMT who couldn't get hired on at a real FD or EMS service and count the days until they get sick due to improper PPE and decon.
 
Oh fuck, this is heartbreaking, but it seems at least some Chinese have hearts and give a shit for their pets.

Tens of thousands of pets stuck in the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak are at risk of starving to death, campaigners have warned. An estimated 50,000 pets have been left behind in Wuhan, in China’s Hubei province, after owners were evacuated in a bid to stop the virus spreading further. Many were unable to take their beloved animals with them or thought they would soon return and have been desperately seeking the help of animal rescue teams to give them food. Wuhan’s mayor, Zhou Xianwang, said 5,000,000 people had fled the city ahead of Chinese New Year, leading animal rights activists to calculate the amount of pets left behind.

The campaigners’ warning comes after claims local authorities have called for the culling of dogs and cats amid discredited fears they could be carriers of the virus, which has killed 425 people. One man, who has so far saved around 1,000 animals with rescue teams in Wuhan, told Sky News a family had asked him to break into their home and feed their two cats. Lao Mao, not his real name, said they had been trapped inside without enough food for 10 days after the owners had gone on holiday. They had planned to be away for only three days but following crisis travel restrictions across the country, they were not allowed back into Wuhan. Mr Mao said the family sobbed with relief after being told their pets were alive and safe after he fed them. However, others may not be so lucky as the ratio of animals to volunteers is overwhelming.

He told the news site: ‘My conservative estimate is that around 5,000 are still trapped, and they may die of starvation in the coming days. ‘The volunteers on our team, me included, have saved more than 1,000 pets since 25 January’. However, Humane International Society predicts the numbers are much higher and are concerned about multiple reports they received regarding local governments ordering the culling of the dogs and cats. Spokeswoman Wendy Higgins said the charity has been working with around 35 animal rights groups through Chinese social media channel Weibo across the country. She said they’d received reports of culling orders in Beijing, Tianjin, Shandong, Heilongjiang, Hebei, Wuhan, Shanxi and Shanghai. ‘If the local authorities decide that dogs per say are a threat, I would be concerned for the welfare of both street dogs and home dogs,’ she said.

More than 2,000 people have been infected with the deadly virus, which has been declared a global health emergency. One person in the Philippines has died from the virus outside of China, which has had strict travel restrictions imposed on it from various countries. The World Health Organisation has confirmed there is no evidence dogs and cats can be infected with the virus which broke out in a fresh meat market in the city.



"My conservative estimate is that around 5,000 are still trapped, and they may die of starvation in the coming days," said Lao Mao, not his real name.


"The volunteers on our team, me included, have saved more than 1,000 pets since 25 January".


Mr Mao told reporters how he broke into one home - at the request of its owners - to feed two starving cats that had been trapped inside for 10 days.

The owners, who had left Wuhan for a three-day holiday but could not get back into the city due to travel restrictions, reportedly cried with relief over news their pets were safe.

Sky News understands Mr Mao chose not to reveal his real name as his family did not know he was "out and about" in the city.



A big hand for Mr. Mao and his colleagues anyway. It's diffcult to remember not all Chinese are putting live skinned dogs on barbecues and slavering over their flesh when you've seen those images from the markets. Some at least give a shit for animal welfare.
 
Then you throw them in a Rural/Metro or Mercy Medical transport bus staffed by a paramedic and EMT who couldn't get hired on at a real FD or EMS service and count the days until they get sick due to improper PPE and decon.
I literally have no decision making other than triage and what ward your ass falls into. But only to a degree as my director has final say. I literally risked my job sperging to my director on how bad of a decision it would be to throw in a possible case of wu flu in a ward full of mostly cancer patients and unvaxxed kids would be. If he has and my director had not listened in the first go around we'd be looking at a huge ass death toll.
If he has it the cost will be astronomical and my director would have a heart attack. I don't agree with the decision if anything the patient will have to stay put but insurance especially Medicaid pays shit too and that alone can cost a lot. As well as cause other logistical issues as well.
 
I literally have no decision making other than triage and what ward your ass falls into. But only to a degree as my director has final say. I literally risked my job sperging to my director on how bad of a decision it would be to throw in a possible case of wu flu in a ward full of mostly cancer patients and unvaxxed kids would be. If he has and my director had not listened in the first go around we'd be looking at a huge ass death toll.
If he has it the cost will be astronomical and my director would have a heart attack. I don't agree with the decision if anything the patient will have to stay put but insurance especially Medicaid pays shit too and that alone can cost a lot. As well as cause other logistical issues as well.

Ok but wouldn't it be a terrible idea to put someone with the regular flu/pneumonia in a room full of immuno-compromised people, anyway? shit's still contagious?
 
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