Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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on a related point, if you guys see this on biorxiv:
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you need to be able to read the article critically. or if you lack the background to be able to do that, wait until there's more consensus before touting something around as fact. there have been a number of trash articles written about wuflu at this point. I think the most noteworthy was when some Chinese scientists tried to purport that a zoonotic coronavirus was transferred to us from snakes. That one was actually even peer-reviewed iirc, though I think the journal admitted that they "expediated" the process for them.
 
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Virus are racists !

Well, i don't really feel good knowing some people, somewhere, have the power to create ethnic centered or ethnic exclusive viruses, not only working on them but i also allways feared that everytime news would come out that labs working on very dangerous viruses would let one go by accident at some point.

People allways make a big deal of nuclear weapons and want them to be banned, but i allways thought bio labs like these shouldn't exist and are far more dangerous.
Things to note:

1) the problem with biolab prohibition is how much non-weapon related stuff biolabs produce. Biotech has incredible aplications and will soon enough severely affect the economy. Hell, it already has despite Greenpeace's best efforts to sabotage it. The medical implementations alone are too many to stop it. And medical labs that study how to treat virulent diseases are already well prepared to make bioweapons so even if you ban the more protected labs countries that might wanna atack you will just get sloppier.

2) only way to stop enemy bioweapons is a biolab ready to isolate them. So really, as soon as it is suspected illegal biolabs might be used by terrorists, you need legal ones to stop them. And so long as you don't care about proper protocol illegal biolabs get cheap enough to be worrying. Hell even the fucking neo sanyasans built one (crspy as it was)

3) thing is the purpose of most bioweapons is to REDUCE casualties, not increase them. Consider the following: dysentery was THE largest reason behind stoping military offensives in history. Armymen can't fight well when they get sick enough! And using negative sellection genes ("kill switches" to make sure the weapon is extremely weak to a specific antibody or substance) are easy as fuck to implement to ensure it doesn't backfire. Hell, most labs already use them. Let's explore some circumstances:

-let's say you're dealing with an enemy country that tried to invade you. Now, most civilians are indeed civilians, they're probably opressed by the regime, there's moral implications behind going full genocide, but you might just be able to attack an enemy factory, and if you do their army will be severely hampered. So. What do you do? Well ww2 america just firebombed the god damned place and talked about reaping whirlwinds, but nowadays people might be a bit more sensitive to that stuff. Well: you could just give all those civilians pulmonary inflamation and diarrhea. I doubt they'll be working under those conditions, and now the country will have to choose between dealing with it at a great economic cost which will sabotage their supply chain or try to force the civilians through the pain which will start causing deaths, desteroy their image, still affect their supply chain, and cause unrest. And all you need is the flu.

-there's some goatfucking terrorists in cave complexes on a buncha mountains near a civilian population. Now, you could send infantry and drones to scout and very slowly find them, causing them to be vulnerable to ambushes and riling up the muslims which might just go apeshit and attack the civilians in revenge. And even if you bomb them they'll just barricade even further like the roaches they are, and if they're close enough to civilians the moab ain't an option. Well here's an option: give them all the shits. Now you suddently put them in a conundrum. If they want antibiotics they're gonna need to go fetch them in the civilian areas, where you have the advantage, and if they don't get them dehidration alone will kill most of them even if they try to live in the unsanitary conditions this would cause. And your troops can stop going out there risking ambushes and just sit back, look around and preemptively capture anyone that exhibits the symptoms until the virus starts affecting the insurgents' leadership.

As you can see. Bioweapons are very useful for reducing casualties. They can be one of the most humane tools of war, and you can easily impmement ways to control them. But of course, they can also be used for horrifying things. That's the issue with science, same process used for synthesis of nitrates that helpedsterilize our farms and augment their production to the point famines like the ones seen in the 20th century are now night impossible is the reaction that also helped heavily augment the amount of bombs used in the second world war. Tools are just tools. What you do with them is on you.
 

WHITE PEOPLE ARE IMMUNE HASHTAG WHITE PRIVILEGE HASHTAG FUCK THEM CHANKS
Literally the plot to Advanced Warfare.
 
Makes my fucking blood boil. Article is in German, short summary:

A stupid cunt in Salzburg, Austria, was suspected of having contracted the coronavirus and was admitted to the hospital for testing and quarantine.

This bitch fled from the isolation ward at 3 am at night, BEFORE the test results came back.
So police searched for her and found her at 10 am at her home and brought her back to the hospital.

Since the hospital cannot detain patients against their own will without court orders, authorities instead had to put a "Bewachungsauftrag" (basically police guards watching that bitch) in effect.

Test results came back negative, thank god, but I'm fucking MOTI !!!!! How fucking selfish can you be? Bitch, you are in a 1st world country with excellent health care and cannot wait 2 days for test results, WTF is wrong with you?


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To go with Zach Vorhees excellent analysis, China is now saying the US released the coronavirus as a bioweapon.

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English translation begins at line 61.

"I believe and have compelling circumstantial reason to believe that the American CIA injected and planted the so-called 'Wuhan virus' into Wuhan, China in or around the dates of October 31st 2019 and December 31st 2019 with intent to harm China and with potential to destablize and perhaps even motive to collapse China from within."

Highlights:

- US wants to keep it's supply chains
- The virus was released right after the trade deal
- The Swine Flu was a dry run
- Only targets ethnic Han, white people don't care about it
- China needs a deterrence plan
- End of the petrodollar hegemony
- Blowback, collateral risk are minimal with this vector of attack
- The US is bad
- It's probably war
- Everyone is saying mean things about China

Summary:

Interesting read, nothing other people haven't said already but notable for scope and breadth.

The political and economic focus puts this purely in the realm of propaganda, it's clearly produced for Western audiences. The specific officials cited are highly polarizing in the US but almost completely unknown to the public in Asia / the South Pacific. A Stylometric analysis of the original text would probably reveal common authorship with other letters, but I'm not set up to do that.

I took from this much will be made about the fact coronachan doesn't have much impact on Westerners. That doesn't exactly prove anything, but it's certainly a great jumping off point for conspiracy theorists.

My money is still on the idea China obtained lab samples from Canada, tested them on pigs, a dimwit sold diseased pigs to a wet market and chaos ensued. Whether the US could engineer that by letting it happen, maybe? It would be easier to accept if people in China washed their hands and didn't hate doctors.
 
Makes my fucking blood boil. Article is in German, short summary:

A stupid cunt in Salzburg, Austria, was suspected of having contracted the coronavirus and was admitted to the hospital for testing and quarantine.

This bitch fled from the isolation ward at 3 am at night, BEFORE the test results came back.
So police searched for her and found her at 10 am at her home and brought her back to the hospital.

Since the hospital cannot detain patients against their own will without court orders, authorities instead had to put a "Bewachungsauftrag" (basically police guards watching that bitch) in effect.

Test results came back negative, thank god, but I'm fucking MOTI !!!!! How fucking selfish can you be? Bitch, you are in a 1st world country with excellent health care and cannot wait 2 days for test results, WTF is wrong with you?


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Not only selfish but also stupid. Bitch not only is your dumbass putting all your loved ones at risk but if there's a reinfection chance you're also risking it yourself. This has no benefit! There are only drawbacks to doing it!
 

WHITE PEOPLE ARE IMMUNE HASHTAG WHITE PRIVILEGE HASHTAG FUCK THEM CHANKS

Am I getting this right?

White people fuck dogs and are pretty much immune.
Chinese people eat dogs are get infected like crazy.

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Am I getting this right?

White people fuck dogs and are pretty much immune.
Chinese people eat dogs are get infected like crazy.

:thinking:
Science confirms:

God would rather you fuck a dog than eat him

Editing post to add some new news out of the WHO

BREAKING: World Health Organization issues an appeal for $675 million to fight the coronavirus outbreak

Make of it what you will. Anyone have any better ideas behind the implications of this?

Just remember

It's only a flu guys
 
Looks like the CCP is letting the USA bring home more people from China. Bet we could fill ten planes easily if the CCP would allow it.



WUHAN CORONAVIRUS
350 American coronavirus evacuees arrive at Travis AFB
REUTERS STAFF
February 05, 2020 at 09:53 AM
NEWS
https://taskandpurpose.com/coronavirus-evacuees-travis-air-california
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 350 Americans who left Wuhan, China, aboard two planes arrived at a U.S. military base in California on Wednesday, in Washington's latest effort to fly its citizens away from the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak.

The U.S. travelers on two State Department-chartered flights will be quarantined for 14 days after landing, the U.S. Defense Department said in a statement.

The jets landed at Travis Air Force Base, about midway between San Francisco and Sacramento, KNTV television reported, showing images of two planes on the tarmac on its website.

One of the planes will continue on to Miramar Marine Corps Air Station in San Diego after refueling, the Pentagon said, and was due to arrive at Miramar between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. Pacific time (between 1400 and 1700 GMT), a Marine Corps spokesman said in a statement.

The State Department separately said it may stage additional flights on Thursday but gave no other details.
The United States and other countries are seeking to evacuate their citizens from China, where the fast-spreading outbreak has killed 490 people. Two deaths have been reported outside of the mainland.

U.S. health officials have reported 11 confirmed cases of the virus in the United States so far, including two person-to-person transmissions.

The Trump administration declared a public health emergency on Jan. 31, and announced the extraordinary measures of barring the entry of foreign nationals who have recently visited China and imposing a mandatory two-week quarantine for travelers from China's affected province.

The State Department issued a "Do Not Travel" to China advisory to U.S. citizens, advising them to return on commercial flights if possible, though some commercial airlines have suspended flights to or from major Chinese cities.

U.S. officials have also restricted flights from China to 11 designated airports deemed capable of carrying out enhanced screening.

Nearly 200 Americans were evacuated late last month, mostly U.S. diplomats and their families, and they were flown to March Air Force Base east of Los Angeles.


Also found this, for what it's worth.



Novel Coronavirus: Transmission Before Illness Documented
German workers caught virus from Chinese colleague who showed no symptoms


  • by John Gever, Managing Editor, MedPage TodayJanuary 30, 2020

The Chinese employee of a German firm who transmitted the novel coronavirus to co-workers during business meetings did so while still appearing healthy, according to clinicians and researchers in Munich.
Camilla Rothe, MD, of University Hospital LMU Munich, and colleagues reported in a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine rushed into online publication Thursday evening that the Chinese woman "had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection" while in Germany on Jan. 20 and 21, "but had become ill on her flight back to China" where she tested positive for the virus on Jan. 26.

The first of her German colleagues developed symptoms on Jan. 24; three others tested positive on Jan. 26. Notably, only two of the Germans came into contact with the Chinese colleague during her stay, Rothe and colleagues said; "the other two patients had contact only with Patient 1," the first to develop symptoms.

"The fact that asymptomatic persons are potential sources of 2019-nCoV infection may warrant a reassessment of transmission dynamics of the current outbreak," Rothe's group wrote.

Previously, Chinese officials said they believed asymptomatic transmission had occurred in patients there, but public health authorities elsewhere expressed skepticism. "We haven't been able to confirm by data ... transmission during the asymptomatic phase," CDC Director Robert Redfield, MD, said on Tuesday.

Although Rothe and colleagues didn't identify the company specifically, details of their narrative matched earlier media reports about four German workers developing infections after meeting with a Chinese colleague. Those reports identified the company as Webasto, a Bavarian auto parts supplier with operations in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the coronavirus outbreak began in December.

German media reported late Thursday that a fifth Webasto employee in Germany had been diagnosed with the infection.
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To go with Zach Vorhees excellent analysis, China is now saying the US released the coronavirus as a bioweapon.

Archive

English translation begins at line 61.

"I believe and have compelling circumstantial reason to believe that the American CIA injected and planted the so-called 'Wuhan virus' into Wuhan, China in or around the dates of October 31st 2019 and December 31st 2019 with intent to harm China and with potential to destablize and perhaps even motive to collapse China from within."

Highlights:

- US wants to keep it's supply chains
- The virus was released right after the trade deal
- The Swine Flu was a dry run
- Only targets ethnic Han, white people don't care about it
- China needs a deterrence plan
- End of the petrodollar hegemony
- Blowback, collateral risk are minimal with this vector of attack
- The US is bad
- It's probably war
- Everyone is saying mean things about China

Summary:

Interesting read, nothing other people haven't said already but notable for scope and breadth.

The political and economic focus puts this purely in the realm of propaganda, it's clearly produced for Western audiences. The specific officials cited are highly polarizing in the US but almost completely unknown to the public in Asia / the South Pacific. A Stylometric analysis of the original text would probably reveal common authorship with other letters, but I'm not set up to do that.

I took from this much will be made about the fact coronachan doesn't have much impact on Westerners. That doesn't exactly prove anything, but it's certainly a great jumping off point for conspiracy theorists.

My money is still on the idea China obtained lab samples from Canada, tested them on pigs, a dimwit sold diseased pigs to a wet market and chaos ensued. Whether the US could engineer that by letting it happen, maybe? It would be easier to accept if people in China washed their hands and didn't hate doctors.

Believe this horse has long since left the barn. The CCP has lost the propaganda war on this one. They cannot control the narrative. Too many people who upload videos or send messages out. Already been a lot of stuff sent out. Anyone stupid enough to believe this whiny, bitchy thing is beyond retarded.
 
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Makes my fucking blood boil. Article is in German, short summary:

A stupid cunt in Salzburg, Austria, was suspected of having contracted the coronavirus and was admitted to the hospital for testing and quarantine.

This bitch fled from the isolation ward at 3 am at night, BEFORE the test results came back.
So police searched for her and found her at 10 am at her home and brought her back to the hospital.

Since the hospital cannot detain patients against their own will without court orders, authorities instead had to put a "Bewachungsauftrag" (basically police guards watching that bitch) in effect.

Test results came back negative, thank god, but I'm fucking MOTI !!!!! How fucking selfish can you be? Bitch, you are in a 1st world country with excellent health care and cannot wait 2 days for test results, WTF is wrong with you?


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it's not like they're putting you in prison, you get free food, rest and probably free internet and other entertainment while there and if it turns out you're infected you are in the most safe place possible and able to get help + you aren't risking other peoples lives.
honestly can't understand these selfish retarded cunts
 
Singapore now adding 4 more to its score. One of them being an infant of six months. No sign that it's fatal for the young, however.

 
Science confirms:

God would rather you fuck a dog than eat him

Editing post to add some new news out of the WHO

BREAKING: World Health Organization issues an appeal for $675 million to fight the coronavirus outbreak

Make of it what you will. Anyone have any better ideas behind the implications of this?

Just remember

It's only a flu guys

I can tell you exactly where that money would go: to the chinese economy. The WHO have long been unreliable when China was involved. This shit isn't meant to save the west just their glorious leader. I hope they get a fat middle finger. I know if my president tries to pay he's gonna gwt reamed by the left, and the right's already reaming him hard enough as it is, his legislature would end right there. (Yeah here in spain it's the right that's been pro-europe globalism and the moderate left that wants this shit to end... corruption, uh, finds a way.)
 
Coronavirus takes the bread (and other things) out of people's mouths.

Chinese sex workers are claiming to be Korean, Japanese or simply Asian in their online advertisements as clients give them a wide berth amid coronavirus fears.

One Chinese sex worker, who spoke to the Herald on the condition of anonymity, said she had edited her nationality from Chinese to Asian in two sex directory advertisements online.

She said despite slashing her rates from $180 to $90, business had still fallen by more than 50 per cent in the last fortnight.

Dame Catherine Healy of the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective said these were "extremely worrying times for sex workers".

"We are concerned about the ability for people to both avoid this virus and survive financially," Healy said.

The organisation was actively advising those working in the sex industry to follow precautions issued by the Ministry of Health and the World Health Organisation, she said.

"Business is way down and it's never been this bad before," said the Chinese sex worker, who advertises on newzealandgirls.co.nz

She is a New Zealand resident and has not been back to China for the last eight years, but says clients saw her as "no different to someone who has just arrived from Wuhan".

"I don't mention that I am Chinese any more and I offer a big discount, but clients are avoiding us like we are the virus," she said.

She said it used to be common for sex workers to claim to be new arrivals as a way to attract would-be clients seeking "fresh girls", but that now worked against them.


 
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