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[SeniorFuckFace]

Thank you for sharing

There was a preview for it when he directed Zodiac Wars back in late 2017. Ironically he cast Daman Mills in the lead role and Monica Rial in a fairly significant secondary role.

To date that's the only show he's directed start to finish.

He mentioned it in his deposition. 111-112

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Thank you for sharing that.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

He's no Christian. He's full of shit. Praying to God to destroy someone? More than reprehensible. If you're going to pray, you pray for healing.

Even Jesus asked God to forgive those guys killing him.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Oh, this interesting little sped.

He can't capitalize on the audience of his now 12 month old reddit thread, so he had someone start up a new one in r/Canada to try and get outrage clicks

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[Scarlett Johansson]

Daman Mills...with his ugly ass frosted tips

Fucking hell they should have cast Nepotism Dismuke

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Got a few things to share.
First of all, Ragin' Cajun, Christianity isn't the religion of peace and you don't need to go all jihadist on anyone.

Fuck man, everytime I go to this site, I wanna make people sit down and watch an actual rape. So they actually feel traumatized.

Here's the thing about legitimate rape and sexual assault which all these fuckers are neglecting in their sob stories.

With assault victims, there is a consistent pattern of the victims blaming themselves for it and trying to dismantle their logic in regards to the assaulter. Because in the majority of these cases, there is a connection between the two that had been building. The actual grooming period regardless of age.

And yes, people who meet their idols can definitely be groomed in a short period of time. All it takes is a few compliments and sweet talking. I mean, the K-poop sex scandal with a bunch of women having been exploited by men in the industry is a good example of that crash course grooming. Hell, even looking at the women who are directly affected by the scandal paints a picture of how victims behave. The public is more antagonistic than the women but the resounding note is that there needs to be accountability. None of this "I want his head and balls" shit.
So if people would like an example of celebrity/fan relations and the aftermath of such from a varied group of individuals, there you go. Even though there are cultural differences, there is a huge disconnect in how those women handled their situation versus the liars.

And going back to Amber Heard, go read her statements and see how she lies. See the language and behavior she used in court. It's very telling. Look at any woman who has made blatantly false accusations. Zoe Quinn. That literally who chick who tried to through Kavanaugh under the bus. They all consistently behave the same way.

Now, I'm gonna relay personal experience because I recently hit a milestone in my journey of sorts moving past what I went through.
My biggest struggle moving forward has definitely been how my mind has always tried to reason with what happened. This was after making a police report in under 12h after the incident occurred. I didn't doubt what happened even if it was hard to swallow.

I kept going back to the times where this person and I were close. I kept going back to feeling like, "Well, he cared about me and was a good person before that." Or, "What did I do to cause this?" And most importantly, "I wanted him to be happy, to keep caring for me."

This is something a lot of people assaulted go through. There is more self blame and outside blame than accusatory statements. There is a process of coping and accepting what has happened. And absolutely, there are some people who are angry and wish harm to their abusers. But there is a whole mental process that people go through to process trauma, any kind of trauma. I'm sure most of you might have an experience that can give you a personal perspective. It could be anything from losing a job to being in an accident or other misfortunste occurrence, struggling to pay bills or find a job, or even a death of a loved one. There is a process of assigning blame and emotion to different aspects of what occurred, there is understanding what has happened, there's the "why me" phase, and then there is the moving forward phase.

Not everyone goes through a textbook process but you can see indications of how people cope through their perspective of what they're going through or have been through.

If you don't find evidence of that process, it's bullshit.

People saying they want Vic to lay low and get help or whatever are bullshitting. They have never divulged on their reasoning for this nor have they given a good reason for why their behavior flipped like a switch. I'm sure we all recognize this. But there is zero logic behind their statements.

With all due respect, even though she brought it upon herself, I see more evidence in Monica of her processing trauma in regards to the handling of the case than I've seen directed at Vic.
I see her struggling to cope with what's gone down and not because of what Vic didn't do to her, but because of what she opened her door to. Not to mention the fact that she's basically being forced to stay where she can't back down. Jamie and Ron and Lemoine would never let her. If you look at her behavior pattern and how she's slowly become withdrawn, how she's trying to fill a void that only really started appearing once Lemoine came on the case, she's got the hallmarks for it. But like I said, not because of her supposed assault. This would have been present beforehand and would have stayed consistent throughout the case.

But Lemoine joining up really exposed a wound and now that same wound is starting to appear on Ron. His unhinged behavior and back and forth he seems to be doing with Lemoine (such as going to Dunford for advice, taking matters into his own hands and approaching Nick) says a lot.

I don't feel sorry for them at all. But it's been something I've observed and I think it's really interesting to watch play out and how all the different people involved handle situations. I mean, look at how some people behave based on happenings in the case or in regards to its key players. I mean, when the dismissal occurred we watched some KFers and the majority of ISWV experience the five stages of grief (this statement is more of a joke than a literal fact, but yeah people had some strong emotions). And we've seen KV. We keep seeing KV and their aggressive responses where aggression isn't warranted.

I definitely invite some of the more observant Kiwis to go on a deep dive and look at how known trauma victims behave and compare it to what we've seen, as well as known liars and their behaviors.

Anyway, this is my weekly sperg. Like I said I recently hit a milestone and that brought up some strong emotions for me but I wanted to use my experience and my own struggles for something somewhat useful rather than going through the motions and doing nothing. I'm proud of myself for moving forward but some days are just rough even though it's been quite a long time.

 

[giraffes on coffee]

Even after all this time, this video is still basically correct. And it's still my favorite video made during this mess. What's really funny is at this time, the Sabat angle wasn't that well known.

 

[TheClappening]

Even after all this time, this video is still basically correct. And it's still my favorite video made during this mess. What's really funny is at this time, the Sabat angle wasn't that well known.

Ron Toye crawling out from between the mattresses gets me every time.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Ron Toye crawling out from between the mattresses gets me every time.

In reality, we all now that is too good to be where he sleeps.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

I don't think so, they've seen how badly Star Trek Discovery has done. Star Trek Picard isn't doing too well either. That series is babies first Blade Runner. CBS/ Paramount needs to think outside of the box, avoid SJW's and give fans what they want. Otherwise the companies will continue to lose money and we'll see Star Trek sold off to a company that will kill it outright.

Or possibly sold to a company that could do it justice.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Or possibly sold to a company that could do it justice.

Only companies out there that would buy it would be Sony, but they're selling off many of their properties to other companies in the next four years. One of which is Sony Motion Pictures to Apple. Another company to sell to is Disney, but I think the government would step in to stop that purchase. That would leave WarnerMedia to buy it. I don't have a lot of faith in them after seeing what they've done to DC comics and movies.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Only companies out there that would buy it would be Sony, but they're selling off many of their properties to other companies in the next four years. One of which is Sony Motion Pictures to Apple. Another company to sell to is Disney, but I think the government would step in to stop that purchase. That would leave WarnerMedia to buy it. I don't have a lot of faith in them after seeing what they've done to DC comics and movies.

Not to mention WarnerMedia owns Rooster Teeth, too.

 

[Garm]

That's one of the puzzles to me. What did Monica stand to lose with Vic becoming a director? Vic thought of her as one of his closest friends. If anything, she'd probably have gotten more roles if he was directing. She clearly didn't have much of a problem pretending to be a friend for a decade with him so why wasn't she able to suck it up for the sake of potentially making more money?

Cougar'd but he would probably put a damper on the fun at Funimation. Take his job seriously. Upset the power dynamics.

Or he only works there a year, sees what a shit show Funimations actually is and opens his own studio.

I think it is top down, if Sabat loses, they all lose and carry out this debacle was in their best interest. From what layers have been pulled back of these horrible degenerates, you can see they will stab you in the back through your face if it preserves them. They have shit on each other comparable to a firing squad pointing their guns in and no one pulls the trigger. That is how I see their relationship of sorts. They thought, this was going to be over quick, that Vic would off himself and did not see the long-game of it going to court...that was not anticipated, I am pretty certain of that. I think if the appeal fails, it just goes back to normal and Sabat slides cash under the table to Monica, Jamie. If it doesn't, you know that firing squad...they are gonna start shooting.

Another potential start to this was Michelle Specht. She seems the spiteful type that once she found out Vic cheated on her she got everyone inflamed. Or she would burn everyone down if they targeted Vic while they were together.

There are several moving parts of KickVic. It is difficult to figure a prime mover at the moment.

Got a few things to share.
First of all, Ragin' Cajun, Christianity isn't the religion of peace and you don't need to go all jihadist on anyone.



Here's the thing about legitimate rape and sexual assault which all these fuckers are neglecting in their sob stories.

With assault victims, there is a consistent pattern of the victims blaming themselves for it and trying to dismantle their logic in regards to the assaulter. Because in the majority of these cases, there is a connection between the two that had been building. The actual grooming period regardless of age.

And yes, people who meet their idols can definitely be groomed in a short period of time. All it takes is a few compliments and sweet talking. I mean, the K-poop sex scandal with a bunch of women having been exploited by men in the industry is a good example of that crash course grooming. Hell, even looking at the women who are directly affected by the scandal paints a picture of how victims behave. The public is more antagonistic than the women but the resounding note is that there needs to be accountability. None of this "I want his head and balls" shit.
So if people would like an example of celebrity/fan relations and the aftermath of such from a varied group of individuals, there you go. Even though there are cultural differences, there is a huge disconnect in how those women handled their situation versus the liars.

And going back to Amber Heard, go read her statements and see how she lies. See the language and behavior she used in court. It's very telling. Look at any woman who has made blatantly false accusations. Zoe Quinn. That literally who chick who tried to through Kavanaugh under the bus. They all consistently behave the same way.

Now, I'm gonna relay personal experience because I recently hit a milestone in my journey of sorts moving past what I went through.
My biggest struggle moving forward has definitely been how my mind has always tried to reason with what happened. This was after making a police report in under 12h after the incident occurred. I didn't doubt what happened even if it was hard to swallow.

I kept going back to the times where this person and I were close. I kept going back to feeling like, "Well, he cared about me and was a good person before that." Or, "What did I do to cause this?" And most importantly, "I wanted him to be happy, to keep caring for me."

This is something a lot of people assaulted go through. There is more self blame and outside blame than accusatory statements. There is a process of coping and accepting what has happened. And absolutely, there are some people who are angry and wish harm to their abusers. But there is a whole mental process that people go through to process trauma, any kind of trauma. I'm sure most of you might have an experience that can give you a personal perspective. It could be anything from losing a job to being in an accident or other misfortunste occurrence, struggling to pay bills or find a job, or even a death of a loved one. There is a process of assigning blame and emotion to different aspects of what occurred, there is understanding what has happened, there's the "why me" phase, and then there is the moving forward phase.

Not everyone goes through a textbook process but you can see indications of how people cope through their perspective of what they're going through or have been through.

If you don't find evidence of that process, it's bullshit.

People saying they want Vic to lay low and get help or whatever are bullshitting. They have never divulged on their reasoning for this nor have they given a good reason for why their behavior flipped like a switch. I'm sure we all recognize this. But there is zero logic behind their statements.

With all due respect, even though she brought it upon herself, I see more evidence in Monica of her processing trauma in regards to the handling of the case than I've seen directed at Vic.
I see her struggling to cope with what's gone down and not because of what Vic didn't do to her, but because of what she opened her door to. Not to mention the fact that she's basically being forced to stay where she can't back down. Jamie and Ron and Lemoine would never let her. If you look at her behavior pattern and how she's slowly become withdrawn, how she's trying to fill a void that only really started appearing once Lemoine came on the case, she's got the hallmarks for it. But like I said, not because of her supposed assault. This would have been present beforehand and would have stayed consistent throughout the case.

But Lemoine joining up really exposed a wound and now that same wound is starting to appear on Ron. His unhinged behavior and back and forth he seems to be doing with Lemoine (such as going to Dunford for advice, taking matters into his own hands and approaching Nick) says a lot.

I don't feel sorry for them at all. But it's been something I've observed and I think it's really interesting to watch play out and how all the different people involved handle situations. I mean, look at how some people behave based on happenings in the case or in regards to its key players. I mean, when the dismissal occurred we watched some KFers and the majority of ISWV experience the five stages of grief (this statement is more of a joke than a literal fact, but yeah people had some strong emotions). And we've seen KV. We keep seeing KV and their aggressive responses where aggression isn't warranted.

I definitely invite some of the more observant Kiwis to go on a deep dive and look at how known trauma victims behave and compare it to what we've seen, as well as known liars and their behaviors.

Anyway, this is my weekly sperg. Like I said I recently hit a milestone and that brought up some strong emotions for me but I wanted to use my experience and my own struggles for something somewhat useful rather than going through the motions and doing nothing. I'm proud of myself for moving forward but some days are just rough even though it's been quite a long time.

Well shit, I almost feel bad for wishing an artillery barrage against them.

Only companies out there that would buy it would be Sony, but they're selling off many of their properties to other companies in the next four years. One of which is Sony Motion Pictures to Apple. Another company to sell to is Disney, but I think the government would step in to stop that purchase. That would leave WarnerMedia to buy it. I don't have a lot of faith in them after seeing what they've done to DC comics and movies.

EVS brought up a point that DC characters could be licensed out after AT&T gets tired of printing comics.

Star Trek could happen the same way I imagine.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Another potential start to this was Michelle Specht. She seems the spiteful type that once she found out Vic cheated on her she got everyone inflamed. Or she would burn everyone down if they targeted Vic while they were together.

There are several moving parts of KickVic. It is difficult to figure a prime mover at the moment.

You know, with you saying that it makes me wonder if the origin of all of this was legit people talking back and forth. People gossip. It was building up. I don't think there ever was a collective plan because even between Monica and Michele with the story about the balcony that never existed, neither one of them had details about the conversation or a solid alibi. It's not like they'd have to recall word for word what was exchanged. But more or less an idea of why the call went down.

So that was building with gossipy bullshit. I know a lot of people avoid talking out about others because they dont wanna be snitched on but once they learn someone shares the same opinion they unload. And then more people become privy to the shit talking circle and it grows. Michele might've vented to Monica at some point, Monica goes to Jamie, Jamie goes to Kara, Kara goes to Schemmel, Schemmel goes to Sabat....And then all those people are suddenly in the know. That is just an example of how it could happen, how I've seen similar situations unfold.

I think hanleia posting that dumb bullshit was the rabbit for the greyhounds to chase. They'd been stewing over shit and continuing to gossip and then Monica decides to take the reins because not unlike her gossipy situation she felt safe enough to do something that brash even though she knew hanleia was talking about Illich. Monica doesn't seem like the kind of person to lead unless she's comfortable. She wouldn't have done it otherwise. And the fact that people were validating the bullshit accusation just gave her more comfort.

But then she started, and everyone else followed because they all suffer from varying degrees of a desire to follow. Only one who didn't openly go into full Twitter sped mode was Sabat but I'm pretty sure that's because he knows not to chase even if he's fully in support of the takedown. He's letting everyone else do the work for him so if it goes sour he can cut them off like an infected limb and push the blame onto them. He's also too much of a pussy to stand by his real thoughts because his VA career and influence are basically all he's got going for him. That's his identity. He won't put that at risk. But he sure does like to gossip and talk shit because it benefits him to be trusted and to gather information in the event that he needs to use it.

 

[Garm]

You know, with you saying that it makes me wonder if the origin of all of this was legit people talking back and forth. People gossip. It was building up. I don't think there ever was a collective plan because even between Monica and Michele with the story about the balcony that never existed, neither one of them had details about the conversation or a solid alibi. It's not like they'd have to recall word for word what was exchanged. But more or less an idea of why the call went down.

So that was building with gossipy bullshit. I know a lot of people avoid talking out about others because they dont wanna be snitched on but once they learn someone shares the same opinion they unload. And then more people become privy to the shit talking circle and it grows. Michele might've vented to Monica at some point, Monica goes to Jamie, Jamie goes to Kara, Kara goes to Schemmel, Schemmel goes to Sabat....And then all those people are suddenly in the know. That is just an example of how it could happen, how I've seen similar situations unfold.

I think hanleia posting that dumb bullshit was the rabbit for the greyhounds to chase. They'd been stewing over shit and continuing to gossip and then Monica decides to take the reins because not unlike her gossipy situation she felt safe enough to do something that brash even though she knew hanleia was talking about Illich. Monica doesn't seem like the kind of person to lead unless she's comfortable. She wouldn't have done it otherwise. And the fact that people were validating the bullshit accusation just gave her more comfort.

But then she started, and everyone else followed because they all suffer from varying degrees of a desire to follow. Only one who didn't openly go into full Twitter sped mode was Sabat but I'm pretty sure that's because he knows not to chase even if he's fully in support of the takedown. He's letting everyone else do the work for him so if it goes sour he can cut them off like an infected limb and push the blame onto them. He's also too much of a pussy to stand by his real thoughts because his VA career and influence are basically all he's got going for him. That's his identity. He won't put that at risk. But he sure does like to gossip and talk shit because it benefits him to be trusted and to gather information in the event that he needs to use it.

Yeah. All the pieces were there for this, they just never thought about using it.

The rumors build up because humans want to tear down the successful. Then they start hyperbole just to make their story even worse. Fighting the rumors doesn't help much because it is already out in the wild.

So the community had laid the groundwork. All the Funi people had to do was weaponize it. Get a Twitter mob going and off it went.

Civilization is a thin vaneer to humanity. Scratch the surface and people will turn into animals.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

EVS brought up a point that DC characters could be licensed out after AT&T gets tired of printing comics.

Star Trek could happen the same way I imagine.

EVS is also an idiot who has to rely on "anti SJW's" to sell comics they'll never read. He hasn't understood the industry for over a decade. Biggest issues DC Comics is facing with their comics is that they're catering to the "woke crowd" with their smaller imprints and lesser known titles then shit can them when they don't sell. Issues with their movies is that they give them to directors who don't like comics and often times their writers don't like comics either. Best things they usually have going for them is their TV shows usually and their cartoons. Only bad TV show's I've seen so far is their Batwoman series and Titans. Not sure how Green Arrow and the Canaries will do or Stargirl, but watching the trailer for Stargirl I have little faith in it, new Green Arrow in the series wasn't too bad of a character. There's also a Green Lantern show coming up too, but without a good budget that can fail.

Movie wise the only thing to look forward to is Flash and them setting up Flashpoint. Hopefully after that they'll hire actors and actresses who want to stick with their roles for awhile.

Marvel side you have Secret Wars to look forward to (no, not the old Secret Wars, you know the good one. The new one which was a bad attempt at a reboot of the Marvel universe.), Marvel Zombies, and the Venomverse which will have appearance of Spider-Man in the third Venom movie. Personally, not interested in any of that. Maybe if they make a full two hour Spider-Ham movie I'll be interested in the MCU again.

I haven't heard of any new cartoons out for either parties other than whatever the new Deathstroke cartoon is. Even Japan doesn't have a DC or Marvel anime coming out. I think the love affair between Japan anime/ manga and Western comics maybe over.

 

[SpiralStars]

It's rumored Funimation was going to give him a director job. That's why he sold his house in LA and moved to Texas. He had lived there not very long before he was fired.

Think about that. Think about moving like that. Selling one house and buying another. In an Unlocked stream someone asked why he was moving and "what was in Texas?" He actually said, "Funimation, friends I've known for years...lots of good things."

Fucking ouch.

Less than a month or some shit. Imagine the stress of leaving your home and everything you're familiar with. Moving is almost always a financial hit. The stress of changing jobs and then you lose the job anyway and get turned into a pariah (until some pushback). The timing is the best time to drive Vic to suicide. Rekieta is right about that. It may have just been convenience to do it then from themselves but it was timed perfectly to fuck him around and over.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Felt like this video should be shared here. Don't know why, but the urge hit me.

 

[Garm]

Got a few things to share.
First of all, Ragin' Cajun, Christianity isn't the religion of peace and you don't need to go all jihadist on anyone.



Here's the thing about legitimate rape and sexual assault which all these fuckers are neglecting in their sob stories.

With assault victims, there is a consistent pattern of the victims blaming themselves for it and trying to dismantle their logic in regards to the assaulter. Because in the majority of these cases, there is a connection between the two that had been building. The actual grooming period regardless of age.

And yes, people who meet their idols can definitely be groomed in a short period of time. All it takes is a few compliments and sweet talking. I mean, the K-poop sex scandal with a bunch of women having been exploited by men in the industry is a good example of that crash course grooming. Hell, even looking at the women who are directly affected by the scandal paints a picture of how victims behave. The public is more antagonistic than the women but the resounding note is that there needs to be accountability. None of this "I want his head and balls" shit.
So if people would like an example of celebrity/fan relations and the aftermath of such from a varied group of individuals, there you go. Even though there are cultural differences, there is a huge disconnect in how those women handled their situation versus the liars.

And going back to Amber Heard, go read her statements and see how she lies. See the language and behavior she used in court. It's very telling. Look at any woman who has made blatantly false accusations. Zoe Quinn. That literally who chick who tried to through Kavanaugh under the bus. They all consistently behave the same way.

Now, I'm gonna relay personal experience because I recently hit a milestone in my journey of sorts moving past what I went through.
My biggest struggle moving forward has definitely been how my mind has always tried to reason with what happened. This was after making a police report in under 12h after the incident occurred. I didn't doubt what happened even if it was hard to swallow.

I kept going back to the times where this person and I were close. I kept going back to feeling like, "Well, he cared about me and was a good person before that." Or, "What did I do to cause this?" And most importantly, "I wanted him to be happy, to keep caring for me."

This is something a lot of people assaulted go through. There is more self blame and outside blame than accusatory statements. There is a process of coping and accepting what has happened. And absolutely, there are some people who are angry and wish harm to their abusers. But there is a whole mental process that people go through to process trauma, any kind of trauma. I'm sure most of you might have an experience that can give you a personal perspective. It could be anything from losing a job to being in an accident or other misfortunste occurrence, struggling to pay bills or find a job, or even a death of a loved one. There is a process of assigning blame and emotion to different aspects of what occurred, there is understanding what has happened, there's the "why me" phase, and then there is the moving forward phase.

Not everyone goes through a textbook process but you can see indications of how people cope through their perspective of what they're going through or have been through.

If you don't find evidence of that process, it's bullshit.

People saying they want Vic to lay low and get help or whatever are bullshitting. They have never divulged on their reasoning for this nor have they given a good reason for why their behavior flipped like a switch. I'm sure we all recognize this. But there is zero logic behind their statements.

With all due respect, even though she brought it upon herself, I see more evidence in Monica of her processing trauma in regards to the handling of the case than I've seen directed at Vic.
I see her struggling to cope with what's gone down and not because of what Vic didn't do to her, but because of what she opened her door to. Not to mention the fact that she's basically being forced to stay where she can't back down. Jamie and Ron and Lemoine would never let her. If you look at her behavior pattern and how she's slowly become withdrawn, how she's trying to fill a void that only really started appearing once Lemoine came on the case, she's got the hallmarks for it. But like I said, not because of her supposed assault. This would have been present beforehand and would have stayed consistent throughout the case.

But Lemoine joining up really exposed a wound and now that same wound is starting to appear on Ron. His unhinged behavior and back and forth he seems to be doing with Lemoine (such as going to Dunford for advice, taking matters into his own hands and approaching Nick) says a lot.

I don't feel sorry for them at all. But it's been something I've observed and I think it's really interesting to watch play out and how all the different people involved handle situations. I mean, look at how some people behave based on happenings in the case or in regards to its key players. I mean, when the dismissal occurred we watched some KFers and the majority of ISWV experience the five stages of grief (this statement is more of a joke than a literal fact, but yeah people had some strong emotions). And we've seen KV. We keep seeing KV and their aggressive responses where aggression isn't warranted.

I definitely invite some of the more observant Kiwis to go on a deep dive and look at how known trauma victims behave and compare it to what we've seen, as well as known liars and their behaviors.

Anyway, this is my weekly sperg. Like I said I recently hit a milestone and that brought up some strong emotions for me but I wanted to use my experience and my own struggles for something somewhat useful rather than going through the motions and doing nothing. I'm proud of myself for moving forward but some days are just rough even though it's been quite a long time.

Also thinking about it, Ron seems to be going through the 5 stages of grief in Nick's DM's.

The denials. "We just wanted him to get better!"
(Apparently there is an "anger" stage but Ron seems to be always angry.)
Then bargaining. "Nick, if you take down the Go Fund Me and settle, we can help Vic."

 

[Lone MacReady]

Even after all this time, this video is still basically correct. And it's still my favorite video made during this mess. What's really funny is at this time, the Sabat angle wasn't that well known.

Any news on the magic ointment front?

 

[giraffes on coffee]

Also thinking about it, Ron seems to be going through the 5 stages of grief in Nick's DM's.

The denials. "We just wanted him to get better!"
(Apparently there is an "anger" stage but Ron seems to be always angry.)
Then bargaining. "Nick, if you take down the Go Fund Me and settle, we can help Vic."

Thing is he'll never reach acceptance.