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Patients at Wuhan's coronavirus hospital are given TURTLES for dinner after contracting the deadly disease spread to humans from wild animals

Patients at one of Wuhan's coronavirus hospitals have been given turtle meat for dinner while being quarantined, it has emerged.

'Today's meal includes softshell turtle meat,' one person in isolation claimed in a video released by Chinese media.
The contagious disease, which has killed 638 people, was passed onto humans from wild animals - especially bats and snakes - through other animals, experts believe.

Chinese scientists today suggested that pangolins might be the link which allowed the virus to spread from bats to mankind.

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'Today's meal includes softshell turtle meat,' claimed one person in isolation in one of the makeshift hospitals in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.

:cringe: They don't learn, don't they?
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Patients at Wuhan's coronavirus hospital are given TURTLES for dinner after contracting the deadly disease spread to humans from wild animals

Patients at one of Wuhan's coronavirus hospitals have been given turtle meat for dinner while being quarantined, it has emerged.

'Today's meal includes softshell turtle meat,' one person in isolation claimed in a video released by Chinese media.
The contagious disease, which has killed 638 people, was passed onto humans from wild animals - especially bats and snakes - through other animals, experts believe.

Chinese scientists today suggested that pangolins might be the link which allowed the virus to spread from bats to mankind.

24449258-7978611-image-a-139_1581094943961.jpg
'Today's meal includes softshell turtle meat,' claimed one person in isolation in one of the makeshift hospitals in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.

:cringe: They don't learn, don't they?
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China: creates world plague by eating dirty wild animals
also China: tightly packs infected/suspected infected into sardine cans
also also China: feeds quarantined people dirty wild animals

so CCP isn't even pretending that they aren't using this as a chance to thin out their country population anymore.
 
To be honest, BRICs are just a meme invented by some Goldman Sachs guy that China then took really seriously. It's one of those things (like joint exercises with the Russians) that the Chinese state media makes a really big thing about to imply this is an important cunning stepping stone to taking over the world, displacing the "Anglo-American" world order and all garlic-breath skinnyfat Chinamen NEETs get blond haired waifus. They have some public meetings, but a serious alliance it is definitely not. The Chinese and the Russians, for example, may not trust the Anglosphere, but they trust each other even less and if you don't believe me then look at where their elites send their kids to study, where they buy their property and where they generally stash their loot.



Yes that and to try to export China's bloated infrastructure sector bubble that grew to an absurd size in the wake of post-2008 (mal)investment and is now a powerful lobby group within the country that employs enormous numbers of people. There's nothing for these unskilled workers to do if they aren't building shit but now that every Chinese city has a massive ghost town ringed around it and there's high speed rail connecting towns nobody has ever heard of, there's nothing more for them to plausibly build in China... so the big brain idea is to build shit for Africans and stick them with the bill. In the short term, it'll look like big profits and wise policy for the banks. But the Chinese, as usual, have too much hubris to see the flaw in their plan. The Americans after WW2 had already tried the "we will deal with you honestly, employ your people, teach you skills and build you some shit - and we don't have the baggage of the European colonists" in Africa. The dams and factories went up and everything was great but after a while the Africans saw the ratio of interest payments to new shit being built was unfavourable; chimp-outs and nationalisations followed. China is openly an insincere partner, dismisses Western corporate charity-work in the region as naive (instead of necessary pacification bribes to maintain a long term presence), attempts no spiritual connection with the people, often openly refuses to employ locals and instead employs Chinamen transported over in cargo ships and sees simply buying off officials as an efficient way of dealing with Africa, as opposed to a time-bomb that starts ticking when unemployed Africans see tens or hundreds of thousands of Chinese workers living behind walls in their cities, building what is supposedly their new shit but with the local street level economy seeing nothing from these big Chinese investments except, possibly, in the brothels. There'll be smiles for the Chinese while they're building stuff and there'll be (a lot more) allegations of neo-colonialism and the beginnings of chimp outs once the structures are built but the interest payments are still due.



That's far too general a statement. They definitely try to raise the masses in to loyalty. But the loyalty is nowadays essentially predicated on the economic situation getting better forever. As soon as enough Changs feel that their quality of life is stagnant with no sign of getting better, then the implicit binary choice the Party offers of "us or chaos" will eventually have enough people saying "cao ni ma, I choose chaos".



This looks like a great example of how communist China still is in practice.

Whoever is authorised to put the fake stats out there had been told by the guy bossing them "keep it around 2%". But then the panic spread, the situation got worse and the person making the call is worried about how their instructions will look afterwards, so they just clammed up and stopped giving instructions. So the people in charge of implementing the instruction have not had an update. And obviously, they are also concerned about how they'll look afterwards, so they continue to keep implementing the latest instruction they had, no matter how detached from reality it is because they can say "we did what we were told!" afterwards. I suppose it's a useful thing for the system that its cogs are still more scared of the system itself than the virus.



You've shared a lot of interesting shit ITT my dude, but I disagree with you here. I think this is the most plausible one.

At Red Square in Moscow, there is (or at least was) a hotel nearby that has two different facades; half of it is one look, half of it is another.
Now obviously, having a hotel look like this is objectively stupid, so why did the Russians build it? They aren't idiots, obviously. The story I heard goes that the architect, upon bringing the plans to Comrade Stalin to approve, had proudly drawn 2 possible designs and was allowing The Glorious Leader Of The International Proletariat to exercise his judgement on which side looked better. Stalin, at the end of a busy day, glanced at the blueprint and signed it approved. And nobody in the room who was aware of the mistake had the nerve to correct Stalin. So they built the 2 separate parts as one hotel, just like the approved blueprint. Stalin was the kind of guy who probably found that hilarious after the fact, but if he heard that you agreed that it was funny, you were dead.

So when you ask "but why would the Chinese build a bioweapons lab in the middle of a city? That's obviously stupid", you need only look at that hotel. Some big shot Party bigwig who didn't really grasp what was going on had a senior moment and nobody dared to correct him.
Shit like this is why I love the farms. I will never look at architecture the same way again.
 
There's three theories.
- The virus was a bioweapon released by tehh evil murikkka, wants to win the economy war.
Gay, why the fuck would America do that, do they not know there's 1.4 billion slants, and they've placed military bases basically enclosing China and Russia, what makes them think the virus won't spread to Japan or Korea, or even the west? And what kind of shitty virus is this? Surely the Americans with genetic information of Asians (731 bioreasearch camp documents) can make a better virus.

- The virus leaked from whatever lab in Wuhan
Also gay, if a virus gets leaked so easily, where's the party politics leaks, leaks on internal corruption of higher officials of the party etc?
Why is there a lab of that kind in a tier 2 city, and moreover why would the state let people know about it in the first place?

- Some Chinese eat all kinds of fucked up shit, China's hygiene standards are low, the virus was obtained from weird animals being consumed (bats, pangolins?)
This is the most plausible, and pretty much can be assumed when there's some weird plague going on in China.

Also, Chinese pangolins are a highly protected species. China doesn't mind executing those who harm endangered animals, it takes some kind of brave and unsavoury fucktard to eat such a thing.

Discussion on the first or second case will get the banhammer on Chinanet. Her whatever autistic theory in promoting racism against Chinamen isn't one of them. I've never heard it within China or outside. She's delusional, but then she's a commie so yeah. There's so many reasons to dislike typical Chinese of various kinds (yes, this includes those from HK too, some of which harbour equally annoying Chinamen traits, such as being loud and stubborn, walking in large packs on pedestrian pathways blocking everyone else), it doesn't take a bat virus to do so.

I personally find Taiwanese and westernised ones to be the most bearable. I dislike tourists and FOBs the most, but I also dislike politics from the former as they are usually annoying leftists.

Meme related, this is one of the many classic Chinese cartoons, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabash_Brothers
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Bats capturing pangolin, pangolin spreads bat virus to old fart who doesn't know how to protect himself, old fart spreads it to youth, disgusting kid spits everywhere, and socialises with other kids causing a virus outbreak.
Kudoes to whoever made this, it's actually pretty funny.

Developing Theory #4 (2+3) Is the one I give the most credence. It was a developed lab specimen. Most likely a test subject used to test and develop vaccines against an expected Coronavirus outbreak. Not specifically a weapon. It was in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And much like happened with the most recent SARS outbreak and a few other prior incidents in China, somebody was selling excess lab animals to the live markets. Suddenly it all comes together. We have likely point of origin and explanation for some of the Viruses odd developmental quirks that do not look natural. We have the tie in to the Live Market. And we have a path connecting them that has been seen in at least 4 other Chinese Lab Containment Breaches in the past few years. Somebody who didn't give no fucks and wanted some extra holiday scratch was selling the lab animals which ended up in the live market.
 
You've shared a lot of interesting shit ITT my dude, but I disagree with you here. I think this is the most plausible one.

At Red Square in Moscow, there is (or at least was) a hotel nearby that has two different facades; half of it is one look, half of it is another.
Now obviously, having a hotel look like this is objectively stupid, so why did the Russians build it? They aren't idiots, obviously. The story I heard goes that the architect, upon bringing the plans to Comrade Stalin to approve, had proudly drawn 2 possible designs and was allowing The Glorious Leader Of The International Proletariat to exercise his judgement on which side looked better. Stalin, at the end of a busy day, glanced at the blueprint and signed it approved. And nobody in the room who was aware of the mistake had the nerve to correct Stalin. So they built the 2 separate parts as one hotel, just like the approved blueprint. Stalin was the kind of guy who probably found that hilarious after the fact, but if he heard that you agreed that it was funny, you were dead.

So when you ask "but why would the Chinese build a bioweapons lab in the middle of a city? That's obviously stupid", you need only look at that hotel. Some big shot Party bigwig who didn't really grasp what was going on had a senior moment and nobody dared to correct him.
Knowing and having lived with the hygiene and sanitary environment there, a virus coming from eating weird shit and/or lack of preparation is far more plausible than "it jumped out of a lab".
The hotel looks funny, I don't hate it, however the comparison doesn't apply. I think it really stems from ignorance towards the nation, as media outlets are either for or against China, both sides will spread a shit ton of misinformation and/or downright fabricated news. There's nothing wrong with it, average Chinese think Americans gun down blacks in the streets as a form of sport, the reverse is illustrated here and in many China-centric posts, which is expected since the two countries are enemies.

- Labs in China are mainly in remote locations. I've been to a friend's and some more. His lab used to be in the city (more than 5 years ago), they made him move out. It's not even a biology lab, it doesn't deal with weird chemicals or disease research. The most dangerous thing would be lasers and falling off a chair. The labs that aren't remote will be a part of some kind of Academia, such as the Wuhan lab.
- Wuhan is a second class (tier 2) city. They had to send the virus to Shanghai for testing. It's not a city known for anything precise or scientific. Of course, one can say it's a show, but whatever evidence is as good as the moon landing being fake (it's not fake). This means either the lab in Wuhan isn't capable in testing such a virus, , or it's unrelated, or "lets put another theory on top of one without much evidence to begin with".
- China isn't the USSR. The USSR is a failed, ultra-statist tyrannical Communist mess. This isn't the Mao era, you're not going to get executed for bringing up different perspectives WITHIN a professional circle. China is what can be called "elitist rule", the elitist politicians (ie Xi) have their own in-group that deals with many things. Back in the Jiang and Hu era, China had a massive board of economists (many Jewish) plan out various ways to improve the economy, without a doubt the best way would be a Laissez-faire approach which was put forward; this is coined as "the miracle" whatever, it's really just capitalism. Xi or whoever is in charge isn't the sole boss and doesn't have decisive rights to his own.
"Let's build bio lab"
"Where"
"In the middle of Wuhan"
"Sure"
*Everyone else silent because they fear getting killed*
(This never happened)
Mao is long dead, China is long gone from being a Maoist mess with "anti-revolutionary" laws. It's not 1951, it's 2020.
However, there is indeed a virology research lab in Wuhan. It's a bio-safety level 4 lab that's opened in coordination with the French. Many simply ignore this.
If the virus did come from the lab, where's the French at? Where are French scientists speaking up? This theory has as much validity as the USA launched a bioweapon theory, which some Chinese believe. There is no way a virus will just simply escape from a bio-safety level 4 lab, unless one is willing to entertain the idea of either French or Chinese researchers intentionally infecting people.
- Discussions of US related bioweapons is censored as well. It will make more sense to use this as an obfuscation.
- Even within the CCP, there's two wings of thought. One would think a civil war should happen within the party, again they aren't dumb and this isn't 1951.
- What we have is the DailyMail article, some Jewish IDF guy throwing out statements with padding phrases such as "allegedly, presumably...", and then talks about China making biological weapons (which I guess is the real intention), again without any evidence whatsoever. For what it's worth, I'm sure China does research into bio-weapons, just not in a lab that is built with the French.
- The lab wasn't even able to test the virus, you honestly think it can produce fucking bioweapons?

Each virus outbreak is China has something to do with Moon's list.
  1. Horrible sanitation practices
  2. High population density
  3. Haphazard nature with everything
  4. "It's better to hide a problem, than fix a problem" attitude
  5. Absolutely barbaric eating habits
  6. Government controlled medical
  7. Don't put any important information out to the public
  8. Oppressive government, which makes the infected more likely to hide, than turn themselves in
  9. Low value of life, which causes them to favor profit over public health, and safety
So this one is somehow a bioweapon being used??
I won't blame anyone for believing in this theory however, information on it is scarce and I suspect these "journalists" intentionally chose to not include the French, or easily accessible information on Chinanet, all they need is some kind translator like myself. (Hey MSM, pay me $1488 shekelz a week and I'll do a better job than whatever fucktard you hired).

Here's the crew, celebrating the P4 biolab in Wuhan.
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It looks like this.
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Here's an English article: http://en.hubei.gov.cn/news/newslist/201502/t20150202_615586.shtml

So unless there's some French of Chinese whistle blower or solid proof, I'm not buying this. It's all "indirect" evidence at best. All the MSM articles also fail to mention that a nation as big as China only has 1 P4 lab (2 if you think Taiwan belongs to China, I don't) whereas America has at least 12 of them, conducting similar research. South Africa has 2 of them, a nation that's more backwards and has worse hygiene, state-sanctioned robbery, apartheid practices... Or maybe Ebola came out of there? lol

Then China's censorious. They can make news vanish in a day, they can list keywords to shadow ban and intentionally obfuscate the results. None of this have been done beyond China's censorship of online discussions regarding to bioweapons as a cause, which includes the stupid idea of "Americans are behind this". I thought that since this is a theory, Baidu would just ban the keyword, they somehow didn't.
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Hell, the second result is asking why the lab didn't do much in figuring out the virus, and someone saying despite having fascism-level of safety standards, the people who run the lab aren't that knowledgeable. Maybe someone's gonna say an idiot lacking abilities carried the virus out or something...

This is what the Tiananmen Tankman keyword provides, loads of weird unrelated news:
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The Zhihu thread contains a lot of information worth looking into. The consensus is "the lab is high end but the people who work there aren't even that educated".
BTW, the lab that verified 75% similarity between SARS and 2019-nCov is a P3 lab in Shanghai, fucking lol. The two South African labs research Ebola.
Just because this Wuhan lab has the highest safety level and some of the best equipment, doesn't mean it's capable in anything. A scientist is as good as the tools he uses, assuming the scientist is actually good to begin with.

Also the lab is 36+ km away from that seafood market, where's the correction, MSM? The lab is indeed located in a rather rural place for China.
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One of America's lab that researches Ebola etc had to shut down due to failed safety measures: https://www.fredericknewspost.com/n...cle_767f3459-59c2-510f-9067-bb215db4396d.html

Here's Wuhan lab's effort in combating the virus. It seems like they actually verified the 75% figure at the same time as the Shanghai lab, however the Shanghai lab took all credit because they were reported on first. The Shanghai lab has a safety level of P3, which illustrates a safety rating has nothing to do with the capabilities of the lab. You can throw monkeys inside, they won't just abra kadabra a bioweapon. http://www.whiov.ac.cn/xwdt_105286/zhxw/202001/t20200129_5494574.html
Lab's official website: http://www.whiov.ac.cn/

Lab's researchers, I'm not translating this, will summarise tomorrow. tl;dr they suck.
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I'll post more information on the lab tomorrow. It's said the head of the lab let his mistress have one of the higher positions. Wuhan truly is a city of corruption and shit politicians.

Oh look, the researchers at the lab had a nice winter vacation!
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17th of Jan! Hooray.
This city is a fucking disaster.
Article: http://gd.whiov.cas.cn/xwdt/202001/t20200117_540847.html
(This is THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE)

Takeaway:
- The MSM assumes that just because the lab has high grade stuff, automatically means they have the capabilities in developing bioweapons. This is just untrue.
- People who run the lab aren't as good as ones in Shanghai
- P3 level lab in Shanghai was able to break down the structure of the virus, the Wuhan lab is P4
- Safety levels and high end equipment is meaningless when it comes to capability of researchers
- All this information is in the open air, why aren't any "journalists" reporting on it?
- The Daily Mail (lol)
- Muh bioweapons (the lab isn't capable in making those, MSM, quit your fake news)
- French not being mentioned at all
- No censorship regarding to the lab's existence, you're one baidu search away from learning all of this
- Chinanet consensus "this lab sucks, it's a waste of high end resources"

Someone even managed to post an orange man bad comment here:
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So yeah, I'm unconvinced and not entertained. The lab is clearly safe enough to house deadly shit, but the people that work there seem to be the bottom of the barrel. Believe what you want though. The solution is usually the obvious. China's filthy hygiene, a corrupted city, and people eating weird shit in an open air market that houses rats and bats caused the virus, or some high end lab housing sub-par researchers, whom information can be found online, holding degrees that aren't at all hard to get, made it and leaked it.

I promise I'll make a detailed post tomorrow on the people in the lab and etc. I however think this is enough to discard the theory.
Before someone brings up an older comment I made regarding to Breitbart saying "just because the source is bad doesn't mean the news is bad, this is an adhom, my dailymail remark isn't an adhom. This entire post addresses the theory and how their reporting is bad.
 
Okay, now it gets a little bit complicated:

A british citizen was tested positive for the coronavirus in Mallorca/Spain - he contracted the virus from a british family in France while on a skiing trip. The infected family in France was apparently infected by someone from Singapore.


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Also, another case in London - also contracted the virus in France:

 
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Chinese Ambassador: Never heard of him

Chen's fucking dead (:_(

Well son of a bitch CCP got another one.

I'm going to put on my tin foil hat for a second here.

If it turns out to truly be more affective against east asians, could it be possible that the western research facilities let the chinks "steal" the virus knowing that their lab tech was shite and it would get out?

That would be the biggest plot twist in this whole saga considering the fact the only people who have died so far are in fact Asian.
 
Okay, now it gets a little bit complicated:

A british citizen was tested positive for the coronavirus in Mallorca/Spain - he contracted the virus from a british family in France while on a skiing trip. The infected family in France was apparently infected by someone from Singapore.

That one asshole who went to Singapore has infected people and spread it to 4 countries. What a piece of shit.
 
could it be possible that the western research facilities let the chinks "steal" the virus knowing that their lab tech was shite and it would get out?
do you really need to be reminded of the perennial utter incompetence of western intelligence and military agencies? look at how fucking ineffective they've been at removing le drumpf from his hitler throne, and we know that a large section of the polygon have been attempting to remove trump for a long time now.
the last truly effective "western" intelligence agency was the fucking KGB, and that should really tell you how embarrassingly bad the CIA/NSA/pentagon are. the political-psychological chessboard the KGB set in the 1980s is something we're still dealing with now in the mideast and on college campuses. if the KGB was in charge of getting rid of muh drumpf, he'd have been dead and buried in 2016 after an unfortunate incident at the RNC which had something to do with polonium poisoning.

i would go out on a limb and say that the last truly efficient military systems were probably prussia/3rd reich, likely tied with pre-atomic-bomb showa era (hirohito's) japan.

Okay, now it gets a little bit complicated:

A british citizen was tested positive for the coronavirus in Mallorca/Spain - he contracted the virus from a british family in France while on a skiing trip. The infected family in France was apparently infected by someone from Singapore.


lol it's just the flu my dude xd
 
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