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That is possibly the most idiotic statement I have ever read on this entire website, and I'm including stuff said by lolcows.
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That is possibly the most idiotic statement I have ever read on this entire website, and I'm including stuff said by lolcows.
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You're right. Trump called democratic voters a basket of deplorables.
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@The Last Stand said boisterous and egotistic, which Trump is. That's part of his selling point to certain people. He's also a narcissist who frames every issue around his himself, a braggart who stretches the truth, and an ends-justify-means kind of short-sighted politician. Plus a foul-mouthed philanderer, if you care about that sort of thing.
I completely understand any of the above making you dislike Trump. But the TDS cases we've been seeing are unjustified in their extremity. They are the result of people personalizing politics, instead of separating the two.
If you believe so deeply in a political candidate, whether it's Trump or Obama or Hillary(!) or Bernie, that you make supporting them part of your personal identity, you need to step back and analyze what is making your personal life so empty that it's filled by someone you've never met who doesn't care about you.
The racist tag always annoys me, because as far as I can tell the big gripes there are Trump being anti-Mexican immigration, and pushing "the Muslim ban". But Trump has always pitched both of those as security issues, which they are. He's advocated for skills-based immigration, which pisses off the actual nativists, and undercuts any racial rationale. The Muslim ban isn't even targeted at Muslim countries, the "list of countries whose documentation we can't trust" currently includes North Korea, Venezuela, Somalia, Nigeria, Kyrgyzstan, and Burma.
The only way you can spin those policies is to claim that humanitarian concerns are greater than security concerns, and caring about domestic security over foreigners is racist. It's nationalistic, sure, but the guy who poses with a taco bowl and hugs Kanye West isn't exactly a frothing KKK member.
The only way you can spin those policies is to claim that humanitarian concerns are greater than security concerns, and caring about domestic security over foreigners is racist. It's nationalistic, sure, but the guy who poses with a taco bowl and hugs Kanye West isn't exactly a frothing KKK member.
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Wow ... someone actually made one for Trump
Song: You say Run - basically, The Coming of a Hero
Song: You say Run - basically, The Coming of a Hero
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I think that’s plenty fair; Trump is human, not a god, and he’s prone to human folly like anyone of us. Same goes for every other president we’ve had from Reagan to Bush to Clinton and so on. They have plenty of flaws and you’re at liberty not to like them personally.
On the other hand, politics is a game of what you accomplish, not who has the most winning personality. If someone actually makes good on promises and makes progress in their goals, that’s when you have to separate your feelings from facts.
Hope I’m making sense here.
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I honestly think part of what makes him so appealing to people is that he is kind of...on their level? intellectually, at least. I don't necessarily mean this in a disparaging or condescending way - even with his being a multimillionaire, he's very good at making working class, everyman Republicans feel represented and listened to. he speaks in a manner almost entirely free from the meaningless political jargon/word salad that is all too common in career politicians, he's boisterous, doesn't filter himself, and he is excellent at pumping up a crowd.
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He doesn't PRETEND to not be vulgar....he never promised to not be, it's not written in the law the President can't be, so it's largely irrelevant that he doesn't fit the preconcieved image of "Presidential" that's the thing.
Everyone complaining he's vulgar doesn't get that not-being so is NOT something most of the electorate cares about. They care about his policy, they like his policy, and they like his willingness to implement it in the face of opposition, the fact he makes potty-mouthed 2nd-grader-level tweets about it doesn't bug them because building The Wall or cutting taxes doesn't hinge on tweets.....
But to people who already don't like him, for his policy and his party, his personal foibles are just another thing they hate and call out on the inertia of not liking him, and do not realize this makes them look petty and out-of-touch.
Now, every politician, gets this. The opposition will always bust their chops, but the degree the MSM has taken TDS to these last 4 years has been unprecedented in it's scope, it's hostility, it's insistence and it's pettiness of presenting ALL official Presidential actions by Trump as being crimes AND every single thing he does being a scandal, and when parting your hair wrong or having a visible tan line is front page news, we've reached a level where everyone is starting to realize: "Holy crap, they aren't just joking, they actually THINK he's unfit for office if he doesn't get his necktie right on the first try...
What used to be just a throwaway line for a late-night comedian is now being put in an article of impeachment and treated as 100% serious.... and like that time you realized you had just talked to a legit crazy person, or a legit conspiracy theorist, they were earnest when they said Jews ran everything and we never landed on the Moon, the moderate voting bloc is realizing the media lives in such a bubble they can't see Trump as anything but a snarling Nazi... they aren't having a bad dream, they BELIEVE It. And they've all tuned out, what more is there to say? They've run the presses at full smear for four years, and in the end, couldn't convince anyone except Mitt Romney that it was true.......
The press didn't just jab at the opposition, they went on to believe their own jabs and started reporting on the responses to their jabs as news itself..... They spread rumors he was dirty, used the public discussion about their own articles as "evidence" of something going on and fed that back into the system to justify 10 more articles about his dirtiness being "proved"
Slander, rinse, repeat.... for four goddamn years, and at the end, this is still the best they can come up with "He's an uncouth tweeter" To them and their hardcore allies, this sounds positively DISASTEROUS, but to the average person, it sounds like what it is..... TDS.
Besides, twenty-odd years ago when Republicans tried to say Clintion was a hillbilly who disgraced the office by expressing a love of french fries and being barely 2 IQ points above saying "ya'll" the left responded with 'You're just jealous he's getting things done"
Well, shoes on the other foot folks.... complete with impeachment and riding an economy he apparently doesn't deserve credit for to an easy second term.... Trump IS Clinton, just a pallet-swapped version, and EVERYTHING they said was unfair for Reps to say is back then is now the obvious TRUTH!>
Everyone complaining he's vulgar doesn't get that not-being so is NOT something most of the electorate cares about. They care about his policy, they like his policy, and they like his willingness to implement it in the face of opposition, the fact he makes potty-mouthed 2nd-grader-level tweets about it doesn't bug them because building The Wall or cutting taxes doesn't hinge on tweets.....
But to people who already don't like him, for his policy and his party, his personal foibles are just another thing they hate and call out on the inertia of not liking him, and do not realize this makes them look petty and out-of-touch.
Now, every politician, gets this. The opposition will always bust their chops, but the degree the MSM has taken TDS to these last 4 years has been unprecedented in it's scope, it's hostility, it's insistence and it's pettiness of presenting ALL official Presidential actions by Trump as being crimes AND every single thing he does being a scandal, and when parting your hair wrong or having a visible tan line is front page news, we've reached a level where everyone is starting to realize: "Holy crap, they aren't just joking, they actually THINK he's unfit for office if he doesn't get his necktie right on the first try...
What used to be just a throwaway line for a late-night comedian is now being put in an article of impeachment and treated as 100% serious.... and like that time you realized you had just talked to a legit crazy person, or a legit conspiracy theorist, they were earnest when they said Jews ran everything and we never landed on the Moon, the moderate voting bloc is realizing the media lives in such a bubble they can't see Trump as anything but a snarling Nazi... they aren't having a bad dream, they BELIEVE It. And they've all tuned out, what more is there to say? They've run the presses at full smear for four years, and in the end, couldn't convince anyone except Mitt Romney that it was true.......
The press didn't just jab at the opposition, they went on to believe their own jabs and started reporting on the responses to their jabs as news itself..... They spread rumors he was dirty, used the public discussion about their own articles as "evidence" of something going on and fed that back into the system to justify 10 more articles about his dirtiness being "proved"
Slander, rinse, repeat.... for four goddamn years, and at the end, this is still the best they can come up with "He's an uncouth tweeter" To them and their hardcore allies, this sounds positively DISASTEROUS, but to the average person, it sounds like what it is..... TDS.
Besides, twenty-odd years ago when Republicans tried to say Clintion was a hillbilly who disgraced the office by expressing a love of french fries and being barely 2 IQ points above saying "ya'll" the left responded with 'You're just jealous he's getting things done"
Well, shoes on the other foot folks.... complete with impeachment and riding an economy he apparently doesn't deserve credit for to an easy second term.... Trump IS Clinton, just a pallet-swapped version, and EVERYTHING they said was unfair for Reps to say is back then is now the obvious TRUTH!>
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I actually think the vulgarity really helps his "brand", as it were. Not having a filter makes him come across as honest, relatable, and passionate, even if that might not always be the case.
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What I've learned from these anecdotes is that making your politics an aspect of your personality is the realm of lunatics and retards.
In what way?
Trump has no control over his daughter, and she has no relevance to his actual policy.
But aren't those true, for the most part?
>unhinged
In what way?
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So, Trump's holding a big ol' rally in New Hampshire tomorrow. This sort of thing fulfills several objectives for President Trump. First, his rally numbers will easily dwarf any of the individual Democratic candidates' crowds at their appearances tomorrow and Tuesday. Second, it'll fire up his voters in New Hampshire. They are there, and they're happy they're not being ignored. Third, if he appears strong tomorrow at his rally, he might just depress democrat voting on Tuesday if enough of the dem voters catch a case of the "we're going to lose anyway" flu.
It's possible Trump will do this, have a well-attended (and televised by Fox) rally shortly before or after a primary to silly-slap the candidates, for the next five months.
It's possible Trump will do this, have a well-attended (and televised by Fox) rally shortly before or after a primary to silly-slap the candidates, for the next five months.
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For once I get to contribute something besides commentary. So the Razzies have always been left-leaning and filled with some pretty bad takes but it looks like TDS got to them this year as they have added a new category. Worst Reckless Disregard for Human Life and Public Property with the nominations of
Dragged Across Concrete
The Haunting of Sharon Tate
Hellboy
Joker
Rambo: Last Blood
now excluding Hellboy each of these movies has something in common.
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Dragged Across Concrete
The Haunting of Sharon Tate
Hellboy
Joker
Rambo: Last Blood
now excluding Hellboy each of these movies has something in common.
That's right each of these movies had the media claim they would lead to more violence, cause riots, or encourage white supremacists. I mean The Haunting of Sharon Tate had maybe one or two but every other movie had the media screeching about how they would encourage the alt-right to violence and how they shouldn't be released. What makes it TDS is that all these movies were despised by the left and you know we've had scares about movies causing violence before yet this is the first year they decide to poke fun at it.
2020 Razzie Awards Nominees: The Complete List
See who nabbed a Razzie nomination for their acting, directing and more.
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I'm black to and ever since Obama's 2nd term, i started realizing how both Republicans and Democrats only see us as political props, it's just that social media makes it more blatant. Fuck em. As for my feelings on trump, I'm neutral on him because I know he says some dumb things, i just find the media overeactions to every little thing he says makes me increasingly sympathetic towards him
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I'm black as well and I think the issue is they desperately try to get the African American vote for both sides. They see us as a uniform demographic I mean hell they literally refer to each minority as a voting block and act like each of us cares about Identical issues. In my eyes the dems are the worst because they pander to the stereotypes that actively hurt the black community I.E. welfare moms, promoting single-family households, trying to lower academic standards for minorities, even affirmative action to some extent. Also, the way they speak to black voters is so fucking demeaning, oh you carry hot sauce with you wherever you go Hilary do you throw it on your fried chicken and down it with your grape soda.I mean at least when Trump was talking about not sending their best he wasn't wrong about Mexico and he wasn't pandering to you. They are fucking shit at picking who represents us, I don't know if anybody remembers when the dems brought out Jay-Z to tell us upity niggers that it doesn't matter that we are making more money, it doesn't matter that our quality of life is statistically better under Trump we are far worse off than we would be under hillary and that being able to drag our asses out of the inner city isn''t going to help us. I mean sure out of all the black celebrities you bring the fagot that often brags about how selling crack started his business empire to tell us that things are bad. They brought a literal fucking drug dealer, a man that made his initial fortune destroying black communities to tell us how to feel. I mean shit why not just bring a fucking pimp as well to tell us "masta knows what we need we best not be disagreeing with masta. "
Trump Misunderstands Jay-Z and the Black Community
The president’s tweet directed at the rapper shows that he still doesn’t grasp the actual issues black Americans are struggling with.
The republicans are awfull with us as well its just in an entirley different way. They're so desperate to rebuke the charges of racism that every time they focus on a black person they usually follow it up with a comment about how we aren't racist. It feels tokeny and fake and gives you the sense that there only there to dispell any claims of racism. Like being the based black guy is pretty awful because everybody treats you like a shield and will often bring you up to claim how totally not racist they are. I mean I get it when you're called a racist 24/7 you'll do anything to disprove it but when you keep calling me your black friend it feels more like I'm just the first part of that statement. Also, they do not know how to talk to certain black communities if they hammered in the harm single-family homes do to children, how many abortions are done on black women and how that was the founders goal, or even how the dems and the media like to push the worst celebrities and drug dealers as our representation they could make headway. They don't all they do is say we're not racist and point to their black friend and say you should totally vote for us its the other guy who is racist. Its why I love trump bringing up African American wages going up and unemployment going down. It's appealing to the community and doesn't come off as they "were totally not racist guys look at our black friend.
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I'd say there are far greater sufferers of that syndrome than them.
@Robert James and @Sekirodiealot , I take it you guys may be the type to laugh or just cringe any time you hear the Left try to pander to black folk or whenever you have some conservative and leftist on screen trying to out the other either as being the true friends of black people or racists. I know I do especially then the two people bitching are white.
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didn't frozen 2 literally cause more violence than all of those movies combinedFor once I get to contribute something besides commentary. So the Razzies have always been left-leaning and filled with some pretty bad takes but it looks like TDS got to them this year as they have added a new category. Worst Reckless Disregard for Human Life and Public Property with the nominations of
Dragged Across Concrete
The Haunting of Sharon Tate
Hellboy
Joker
Rambo: Last Blood
now excluding Hellboy each of these movies has something in common.
That's right each of these movies had the media claim they would lead to more violence, cause riots, or encourage white supremacists. I mean The Haunting of Sharon Tate had maybe one or two but every other movie had the media screeching about how they would encourage the alt-right to violence and how they shouldn't be released. What makes it TDS is that all these movies were despised by the left and you know we've had scares about movies causing violence before yet this is the first year they decide to poke fun at it.
2020 Razzie Awards Nominees: The Complete List
See who nabbed a Razzie nomination for their acting, directing and more.
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For once I get to contribute something besides commentary. So the Razzies have always been left-leaning and filled with some pretty bad takes but it looks like TDS got to them this year as they have added a new category. Worst Reckless Disregard for Human Life and Public Property with the nominations of
Dragged Across Concrete
The Haunting of Sharon Tate
Hellboy
Joker
Rambo: Last Blood
now excluding Hellboy each of these movies has something in common.
That's right each of these movies had the media claim they would lead to more violence, cause riots, or encourage white supremacists. I mean The Haunting of Sharon Tate had maybe one or two but every other movie had the media screeching about how they would encourage the alt-right to violence and how they shouldn't be released. What makes it TDS is that all these movies were despised by the left and you know we've had scares about movies causing violence before yet this is the first year they decide to poke fun at it.
2020 Razzie Awards Nominees: The Complete List
See who nabbed a Razzie nomination for their acting, directing and more.
I don't necessarily think this is TDS, considering trump has literally nothing to do with any of it. At worst, I think they're just cashing in on a bit of controversy.
also, this category isn't new - con air won it back in '97. looking at the nominees then and now, it looks like it's more referencing disregard for property/life within the film itself? the nominees look to be mostly disaster films or films with similar amounts of destruction.
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See the thing is, that's been tried, over many decades. All it gets you is being called a racist who thinks all blacks are subhuman drug dealers and welfare queens. Say anything bad about how rap and gang culture is unhealthy for the younger generation to look up to at best gets you mocked as a YT boomer who's out of touch, at worst called a card carrying member of the KKK if you don't support that lifestyle choice.
Heads they win, tails you lose, so fuck it why bother?
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There's a lot of versions of the aborted meme. Favorite is the Aborted Cool Wine Aunt.