Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The sad thing is, the majority of these deaths probably have more to do with how incredibly exceptional the whole country is.
Well, sad for them but good for the rest of us in a roundabout way. As moronic as some other locales have been doing in regards to how the disease is being handled, it's still a far cry from the absolute Murphy's Law levels of "Bruh what the fuck are you doing" that China's been sporting at a constant rate.
 
For lazy faggots:

U.S. Northern Command is executing plans to prepare for a potential pandemic of the novel coronavirus, now called COVID19, according to Navy and Marine Corps service-wide messages issued this week.

An executive order issued by the Joint Staff and approved by Defense Secretary Mark Esper this month directed Northern Command and geographic combatant commanders to initiate pandemic plans, which include ordering commanders to prepare for widespread outbreaks and confining service members with a history of travel to China.

The Navy and Marine Corps messages, issued Tuesday and Wednesday, respectively, reference an executive order directing U.S. Northern Command to implement the Department of Defense Global Campaign plan for Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Diseases 3551-13.

The document serves as the Pentagon’s blueprint for planning and preparing for widespread dispersion of influenza and previously unknown diseases.

U.S. Northern Command said Wednesday it was directed the Joint Staff Feb. 1 to commence “prudent planning” in their assigned role synchronizing the department’s plans for pandemic flu and disease.



“We coordinate with other combatant commands to assess potential impacts in the event of a pandemic and we ensure the U.S. military is poised to respond as required,” said Northern Command in a statement emailed to Military Times. “The military profession fosters a culture of planning, and the fact that we are coordinating planning efforts across the geographical combatant commands is consistent with how we prepare to respond, if directed.”

According to the Marine Corps message MARADMIN 082/20, commanders are to review their disease containment plans and take “preparatory and precautionary actions” to protect service members, installations and ships.

This includes ensuring that the plans contain procedures for “response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community based intervention” as well as developing measures to contain and treat those possibly exposed.

All right, boys...

The Air Force made policy changes in December in accordance to it.

It's actually somewhat heartening to note that the Department of Defense has apparently given a lot of thought to this particular problem over the years (Yeah, the Spanish Flu taught a few lessons). And they apparently pretty regularly review and update those plans. SARS spooked them when it popped up. Part of China's problem is it has no surviving institutional history from the last time something broke out on this scale. It's not a problem that any historical iteration of the PLA or Party Leadership has had to deal with. (well except for the famines they caused...)
 
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Nearly 10% of the ship infected now, what a fucking nightmare

On the plus side allowing the boat to keep floating and disease spreading around on it will give a good amount of data on the virus and how fast it moves through a population. I would trust these numbers more then China is putting out. Yes I understand its a cruise ship with recirculated air but still its under quarantine and people are mainly stuck in their cabin this isn't looking good.
 
what bothers me a lot is the fact that markets are purposefully not pricing in the inevitable production slowdown this will have on the global economy. china's going to be closed (or at least any sensible country would be closed) like a fumigated dry cleaner shop for 2 months straight, yet they keep trying to reopen factories to maintain production output. obviously this will just lead to more and more virus cases making the whole fiasco worse and worse. profits over people, right comrade? and if that doesn't work, tanks over people will do i guess.

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the fucking nasdaq's up 17% over the 200-moving day avg. if anyone's looking for something to short or buy puts on, here's your fucking ticket. not to mention the eerie similarity to the dot com crash.

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(yeah, it's the chart that's posted on zerohedge a lot right now, sue me.)
 
what bothers me a lot is the fact that markets are purposefully not pricing in the inevitable production slowdown this will have on the global economy. china's going to be closed (or at least any sensible country would be closed) like a fumigated dry cleaner shop for 2 months straight, yet they keep trying to reopen factories to maintain production output. obviously this will just lead to more and more virus cases making the whole fiasco worse and worse. profits over people, right comrade? and if that doesn't work, tanks over people will do i guess.

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the fucking nasdaq's up 17% over the 200-moving day avg. if anyone's looking for something to short or buy puts on, here's your fucking ticket. not to mention the eerie similarity to the dot com crash.

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(yeah, it's the chart that's posted on zerohedge a lot right now, sue me.)
Money means everything to a certain group of people, far more than something so measly as human life. They won't acknowledge anything as ruining their fun until the last possible moment, and then they'll try and downplay it as much as possible while hurriedly trying to save their own skins.

Now about the CCP...
 
I've tried to find news about the group of Brazilians who were returned to Brazil recently and put in quarantine, there is little official info. I dunno if that's good or bad. There is only some interviews by people living there. One, Adrielly Eger a model who was in Wuhan for a three months contact, but then, she's back: "We all are fine now. For many, being back was a relief. It was a risky situation there (Wuhan) and we were too vulnerable. We didn't know if it was safe to go outside. (..) It feels like days past fast and slow at the same time. But I think time will pass way faster here rather than in China, unrest."

The article says: "The people in quarantine have published pictures in social media, went to military band spectacles, allowed their temperature to be taken, or spend time playing domino. They always were masks just in case."

This is her insta https://www.instagram.com/adrielly_eger/

There is another guy, Caleb Guerra, saying he's happy and glad he's in Brazil, even though his previous pictures in China were very cheerful. So, imagine how bad things eventually became:

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That picture is from the Air Base where all the people are now in quarantine.

Another model, a Paraguayan (IICR, she has double nationality: Paraguayan-Brazilian) is also in quarantine. She said she could only leave with help of the Chinese government. She says they had a few tests before boarding the plain to prove they were healthy and now they are tested three times every day.

Tweet with the interview: https://twitter.com/TelefuturoInfo/status/1227611449062764544

In another interview, she says they're constantly locked in their room and are entertained. They can't leave their room without masks, and they only leave to take their food back to their rooms or when they can play something. They are allowed to talk with their families constantly. The only schedule they have is for being tested. So far, none of them have any symptom but they still need to do the quarantine.

She was asked how things were in Wuhan when everything started: "When it started, I wasn't much afraid because people said it would be over soon. I didnt' think the situation would become so severe until it reached this point."


Other notes say the returnees are a bit wary that people will avoid them after the quarantine and see them as "walking viruses".

This is the testimony of another man, a pilot who was in Wuhan and was rescued too.

"used to move around crowded international airports, the commercial pilot Mauro Hart, 59, was unable to contain his astonishment when he walked through the Wuhan terminal, chinese city with about 11 million people, completely empty."

"It was just us, which was very, very strange to me. It is a very sad feeling. As I walked to the departure lounge, I remember my joy, but also my sadness at the situation in which we were leaving China. It was a rescue situation, almost an escape from an invisible enemy that could lead to death. I am a pilot, I always entered that airport and there I was almost fleeing a war against the virus - says the professional, a native of Venâncio Aires. "

"Before going to Anapolis, he served voluntary quarantine for 18 days at his apartment in China amid news that the virus was spreading. For five consecutive days, he bought food and hygiene products at the supermarket that would keep him isolated for two months. "

"I shiver with emotion. I was part in many search and rescue missions. Now, I was rescued from another country. I think that we, as Brazilian citizens, should be very proud of this episode."



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I think Eric is a good man, I really do. But god damn can he be naive.
Typical Millenial attitude to big names and corporations: guys, don't insult the brand, the brand is good, they try hard, ok?
 
damn that was quick, it's probably going to be a couple of months for testing and another half a year for them to make it in large enough quantities to actually be useful.
a lot quicker than WHOs 18 months

Yeah should be fine.

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damn that was quick, it's probably going to be a couple of months for testing and another half a year for them to make it in large enough quantities to actually be useful.
a lot quicker than WHOs 18 months
For lazy faggots who don't want to go to Twitter to get the link to the site...

SAN DIEGO — In a race against the clock, a San Diego lab is scrambling to get a COVID-19 vaccine out and on the market. As the days go by, Inovio Pharmaceuticals is getting closer to releasing the desperately needed vaccine against the deadly virus.
Inovio Pharmaceuticals, which is located in Sorrento Valley, has also created a vaccine for the Zika virus, the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and the vaccine for Ebola.

RELATED: CDC cites label error in mixup involving San Diego COVID-19 patient
Dr. Trevor Smith, who is the director of research and development at Inovio, said, "It's something we are trained to do, and the infrastructure is here and the expertise is in house."
When Chinese scientists released the genetic sequence on Jan. 9, Inovio researchers got to work immediately and within 3 hours they had a vaccine for coronavirus, or COVID-19 as it is now being referred to.
"We have an algorithm which we designed, and we put the DNA sequence into our algorithm and came up with the vaccine in that short amount of time," said Dr. Smith.
Tens of thousands in China have been quarantined and continue to suffer from the virus. That’s why scientists at Inovio Pharmaceuticals say they feel the sense of urgency to get the vaccine out.
The vaccine has been tested on mice and guinea pigs. It will next be tried on a group of human patients.
Scientists hope the vaccine will work like a piece of biological software. In other words, the vaccine will give the human body instructions to create the proper attack in the form of T-cells and antibodies against COVID-19.
If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be made available to the public by early this summer - which would be a record time frame for Inovio Pharmaceuticals.
Currently, an Inovio Pharmaceuticals lead researcher is in Sweden meeting with the World Health Organization to come up with the best plan of attack against COVID-19.


Pollution Goblins BTFO by the Hamburger Kingdom.

Edit: Of course Africa and Asia and the EU will be given it for pennies on the dollars while the Hamburger Kingdom has to pay ten times what they should. So... tie?
 
damn that was quick, it's probably going to be a couple of months for testing and another half a year for them to make it in large enough quantities to actually be useful.
a lot quicker than WHOs 18 months
pretty much every single thing you hear online will be horse shit by this point
make shit up and get crunk
either you die or you don't
 
Those numbers are quite scary, but as long as it's contained in China, we have a chance. Thing is, it's tragic that this is happening to China and they won't be the same for a long, long time, but what other option we have now besides keeping it there?

I'm only a bit worried about whatever will happen after their government either gives up or realises they can't handle it. People will try to escape through the border. They're gonna be shot at sight even if they're healthy. Poor innocent people, honestly.

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Bah, he's become an absolute doomer.

Edit: Of course Africa and Asia and the EU will be given it for pennies on the dollars while the Hamburger Kingdom has to pay ten times what they should. So... tie?

Here in LatAm, we have to pay for it too. Last year, Peru government announced they had Zika (or Dengue?) vaccination for free, but ONLY for vulnerable areas. The rest of us has to pay about $100.
 
That doesn't stop them from carpet bombing cities with napalm. Block all access, shoot anyone who tries to rush any exits, and let the bombs fall.

I've been suspecting Xi has had a plan similar to or exactly this since the first days he's known about it. You don't need a ground force to do this. No infection risk.
So basically this:
 
Those numbers are quite scary, but as long as it's contained in China, we have a chance.
I'm pretty surprised at how well the world is faring against it. You would had expected India or California to explode, but they're surprisingly taken the whole thing well with a few slip-ups. 60k+ infected, 1355+ dead in China vs 463 infected, and only 1 dead globally. I don't want to count on the fact that some people out there are having it and showing no symptoms, which make it impossible to count them until they start showing weeks later but looking at those numbers shows you a lot of things.
Meanwhile, specific other places are quiet about it. North Korea aside, I'm also suspicious at New York being wholly silent after taking a while to confirm those cases.
 
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I think it should be noted that Sihanoukville is pretty much a Chinese Las Vegas. I'm left to actually wonder if there are unreported cases of WuFlu there and some of these unfortunate passengers might inadvertently pick up the virus on their way home. I hope not.
 
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