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Is it cynical of me to think that the CCP will skip animal trials of vaccines and go direct to human patients that are at higher risk of dying to speed up the vaccine process so that the WHO can praise them while recouping some of their economic loss through sale of said vaccine to other nations?

Doesn't exactly fit your criteria, but a Chinese drug company has already started mass-producing remdesivir even when they don't have a license from Gilead yet and testing still hasn't completed if the drug is even effective on humans with WuFlu.

Article here
Chinese drugmaker said it has started mass-producing an experimental drug from Gilead Sciences that has the potential to fight the novel coronavirus, as China accelerates its effort to find a treatment for the widening outbreak.

Suzhou-based BrightGene Bio-Medical Technology said in a statement filed to the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Tuesday night that it has developed the technology to synthesize the active pharmaceutical ingredients of remdesivir, Gilead’s drug that is a leading candidate to treat the highly-infectious virus that’s killed more than 1,000 people. The drug isn’t licensed or approved anywhere in the world yet.

Its stock surged 20% in Tuesday morning trading in Shanghai.

While BrightGene said that it intends to license the drug from Gilead, its move to start manufacturing at this early stage is highly unusual and a potential infringement of the American company’s intellectual property. It comes a week after Chinese researchers filed an application to patent the drug to treat the new coronavirus, a bid that would give China sway over the global use of the therapy to fight the outbreak.

P.S. Someone please teach me how to make those URLs display their content automatically. Noob here. Thanks!
 
P.S. Someone please teach me how to make those URLs display their content automatically. Noob here. Thanks!

Just copy/pasting the link should cause it to "unfurl" automatically. Posting this:

https://time.com/5782633/covid-19-drug-remdesivir-china/

Should give you this:

edit: always good practice to post an archive link along with the link because articles get removed/edited/etc

 
Doesn't exactly fit your criteria, but a Chinese drug company has already started mass-producing remdesivir even when they don't have a license from Gilead yet and testing still hasn't completed if the drug is even effective on humans with WuFlu.

Article here
Chinese drugmaker said it has started mass-producing an experimental drug from Gilead Sciences that has the potential to fight the novel coronavirus, as China accelerates its effort to find a treatment for the widening outbreak.

Suzhou-based BrightGene Bio-Medical Technology said in a statement filed to the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Tuesday night that it has developed the technology to synthesize the active pharmaceutical ingredients of remdesivir, Gilead’s drug that is a leading candidate to treat the highly-infectious virus that’s killed more than 1,000 people. The drug isn’t licensed or approved anywhere in the world yet.

Its stock surged 20% in Tuesday morning trading in Shanghai.

While BrightGene said that it intends to license the drug from Gilead, its move to start manufacturing at this early stage is highly unusual and a potential infringement of the American company’s intellectual property. It comes a week after Chinese researchers filed an application to patent the drug to treat the new coronavirus, a bid that would give China sway over the global use of the therapy to fight the outbreak.

P.S. Someone please teach me how to make those URLs display their content automatically. Noob here. Thanks!
Gilead has the patent but the chinese are licensing it and manufacturing it, breaking Us law, but now they’re moving to patent it?

I don’t get it.
 
Gilead has the patent but the chinese are licensing it and manufacturing it, breaking Us law, but now they’re moving to patent it?

I don’t get it.
They moved to patent it to treat corona-virus.

Of course the Pollution Goblins are just going to steal someone else's intellectual property, patent it with the Chinese government, rake in the stock bump, and try to tell the original manufacturer/researcher that they can't use it to treat corona-virus outbreaks anywhere on Earth.

It's VERY typical Pollution Goblin patent bullshit.
 
Gilead has the patent but the chinese are licensing it and manufacturing it, breaking Us law, but now they’re moving to patent it?

I don’t get it.

As I understand it, Gilead has the patents elsewhere but is still patent-pending in China. Some other entity has applied for a patent for the same drug in China, maybe so the CCP has some leverage over Gilead. I assume that communist chicanery will ensure that the Chinese company mass-producing remdesivir will be in the clear from lawsuits. IANAL though, so better legal minds could chime in and give a better look.

That said, maybe Gilead and the CCP are already seeing positive results from the drug and the CCP ordered the Chinese company to start mass-producing in preparation. Of course, it's too early to tell if said drug has long-term side effects, but China really hasn't the luxury of time. Chinese lives and the hold of the CCP on China are on the line.
 
I assume that communist chicanery will ensure that the Chinese company mass-producing remdesivir will be in the clear from lawsuits. IANAL though, so better legal minds could chime in and give a better look.
Hard to sue a company if its host country is in lockdown, or edging towards anarchy. :P
 
I came here to bear more horrifying news

Wuhan rans out of supplies

Chinese companies reopen only to halt again because one case found


-I would take this video with a grain of salt but the gist of it is : travel sanctions lifted in order for the chinese to go back to their workcages i mean work,so prepare for new china export : wu flu

-Some textile factories gotten direct government orders to stop what they are doing and start producing not protective gowns, not masks but guess this body bags :story: . I mean they have billion people to sacrifice to nurgle amirite ?( this is rumours btw)

-Some cities like shenzen and guangdo in the south already issued order to seize private property in the name of stopping the epidemic we all know how that shit is going to play out

- The anti-epidemic team doesn’t include any epidemic prevention experts but includes propaganda and security experts :story:

And even more beyond parody news

dicussion about how america cant produce shit not even aspirin and has one surgical masks factory,china has cornered the pharmaceutical market so good that noone not even europe and india, can produce medicine without chinese producedcomponents everyone knows this and nobody gives a shit even they managed to poison hundreds of people at one time and get away with it.


I need a fucking drink or bleach or jesus or something

Aditional reading


Chinese Officials Authorized to Seize Personal Property to Counter Deepening Coronavirus Crisis

Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'



China Orders Public Transportation, Businesses to Reopen Following Coronavirus Outbreak

US Needs to Reduce Dependence on Chinese Drug Supplies, Says White House Trade Advisor


A few thoughts. The seizing of personal property to fight this virus is a sign of dire desperation. All this time China's been telling everyone how rich they are, and this shows those statements to be lies. If China was as rich as they say, no need to take from people.

Far as medicines from China go, personally haven't seen anything made there. But have taken medicines made in India, Canada, Croatia, and Israel. So would say we have a diversified source of supply for medicines.

Looking a bit further out, expect some Chinese-made goods to be in short supply. But many companies had already moved out of China, to Vietnam, Thailand, and other places. Got a new printer today. Very nice, great price. Looked at the box. Made in Thailand. If it's too hard to get a new iPhone, get a Samsung. Or do as I do, get a cheap flip phone. Had mine over three years now.

The Government has had a Buy American Act for many years now.



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Over the years, criticism has been directed at the United States for its restrictive Government purchasing policies. It is inaccurate to conclude, however, that the United States is more restrictive than Great Britain, France, Germany, and Japan because of present buy-national legislation. These governments and nationalized industries also exclude most foreign competition when similar items are available domestically. The Buy American Act requires Federal agencies to procure domestic materials and products. Two conditions must be present for the Buy American Act to apply: (1) the procurement must be intended for public use within the United States; and (2) the items to be procured or the materials from which they are manufactured must be present in the United States in sufficient and reasonably available commercial quantities of a satisfactory quality. The provisions of the act may be waived if the head of the procuring agency determines the act to be inconsistent with the public interest or the cost of acquiring the domestic product is unreasonable. Contracts awarded by State and local authorities under Federal grant programs are not covered by the act unless authorizing statutes explicitly provide for application of the act. Problems in administering the act involve definitions of "substantially all" of the components and definitions of "manufactured in the United States."

Things are simply out of control in China now. Certain people in Beijing must be going apeshit. Well, the CCP fucked this up to begin with. NFG for the CCP. When this passes, and it will, look for every Chinese who can to get the hell out of China. They now see how useless the CCP is. They also see the CCP putting party over country. On the flip side, going to be a lot of opportunities for real estate people.

In contrast, looks like overall we are leaning forward in the foxhole. The military's updated their plans. Am sure FEMA has done the same, as has every state's emergency management organization. The US health system is a quantum leap better and more robust than China's. We also enjoy good-quality public utilities, such as potable tap water, good trash collection, and good sewer systems nationwide. Believe should the WuFlu really hit the USA we'll do pretty well. Am also sure there are "war rooms" on this virus outbreak not just at the White House, but also at several other agencies in the Washington area. Like to think President Trump gets at least a daily briefing on the WuFlu.

Yup, the Chinese have been hit with interesting times.
 
Total restriction of movement out of a city of roughly 3,280 square miles? Not sure that's possible or practical. NYC would be hard enough to lock down, and it's only around 468 square miles.

They could firebomb it, but in a pros/cons scenario, they'd have to believe the consequence of being essentially severed from the world stage as a worthwhile cost. Even that assumes they're competent enough to do it right (which seems unlikely, given everything else they've done so far).
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This is a map of Hubei. Surrounding it with a wall, men and military equipment would be extremely difficult for the U.S. Military, but doable. The Chinese military has no chance of completely surrounding the province, maybe a single large city if they put in enough troops (mind you 80,000 military units are in Wuhan atm) but lock-downs aren't done that way.

Choke points like roads, bridges, rail-tracks, etc would be guarded. It reduces the amount of men and material needed to lock an area down. Especially given that there are mainly city dwellers in the most infected regions, they won't be running into the forest very much.
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In Wuhan for example, boats could block off a great deal from the waterways, and any bridges could be bombed or blocked off. Especially the five main bridges on the central river. With those destroyed and the roads blocked off (As most are if the pictures flying over the internet are indicative of the truth) people would have nowhere to flee. It'd be a bloodbath if they used planes.

As for Chinas' willingness to commit such an act of horror and mass murder against its own people, even with international attention, they'd still do it. No one did anything about Tienanmen Square, why would they this time?
 
A few thoughts. The seizing of personal property to fight this virus is a sign of dire desperation. All this time China's been telling everyone how rich they are, and this shows those statements to be lies. If China was as rich as they say, no need to take from people.

In theory, I think it's not the money that's the issue, but more about being able to commandeer, say, commercial buildings to be able to use them as temporary quarantine areas or something. Or being able to claim stocks of surgical masks from citizens found to be hoarding them.

I don't doubt that there may be some enterprising officials who will lay claim to luxury cars saying it needs to be cleaned or some shit, then saying that the car is not fit for usage and paying their owners a pittance while behind the scenes said cars get new registrations and are now properties of those officials.

Yup, the Chinese have been hit with interesting times.

Isn't that some old Chinese or gypsy curse, something along the lines of "May you live in interesting times"?
 
I'm expecting cryptocurrencies to spike as anyone of means in China tries to smuggle as much wealth out of the area as they can before the house of cards collapses. Then if it gets really bad, I'm expecting crypto to flatline as people realize that internet money is stupid as hell when critical infrastructure is failing.


As if they didn't have enough shit to deal with, a gas pipeline has reportedly exploded in Wuhan:
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Wuhan is at that part of the fight where it's flashing red and it takes 4x damage from every attack.
 
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This is a map of Hubei. Surrounding it with a wall, men and military equipment would be extremely difficult for the U.S. Military, but doable. The Chinese military has no chance of completely surrounding the province, maybe a single large city if they put in enough troops (mind you 80,000 military units are in Wuhan atm) but lock-downs aren't done that way.

Choke points like roads, bridges, rail-tracks, etc would be guarded. It reduces the amount of men and material needed to lock an area down. Especially given that there are mainly city dwellers in the most infected regions, they won't be running into the forest very much.
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In Wuhan for example, boats could block off a great deal from the waterways, and any bridges could be bombed or blocked off. Especially the five main bridges on the central river. With those destroyed and the roads blocked off (As most are if the pictures flying over the internet are indicative of the truth) people would have nowhere to flee. It'd be a bloodbath if they used planes.

As for Chinas' willingness to commit such an act of horror and mass murder against its own people, even with international attention, they'd still do it. No one did anything about Tienanmen Square, why would they this time?
Sounds really fucked up, but antipersonnel mines might be the most practical thing in some areas.
 
I wonder if this could explain the SO2 emissions, if this happened a couple days ago (?)
I’m not in the O&G industry so my knowledge is pretty basic but my understanding is that very little SO2 would be present in natural gas. Other sulfur containing molecules like H2S are removed prior to final use. My understanding is that long-distance pipelines and indeed most pipelines would not contain gas with significant amounts of Sulfur. I think it’s unlikely but again I’m not in O&G and it’s not clear what was in that pipe.
 
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