Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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US Gov is evacuating Americans from the Diamond Princess but they have to undergo two more weeks of quarantine otherwise they can't re-enter the country "for a period of time"
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For any Kiwi eager to jerk xirself off to TEOTWAWKI, I give you After Armageddon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OtP80Z08lfg

This is a History channel docudrama about global flu pandemic leading to social collapse. On one level, it's an objectively bad film but it does elaborate on a number of observations discussed in this thread. Shortages of medical supplies. Violence over scarce resources. Corpe disposal issues. Breakdown of essential services. Migrations from cities, spreading disease to the countryside. This show really has it all, right down to the small towns setting up armed roadblocks to deter potential infection and preserve resources.

If this movie's predictions hold, we can expect the emergence of religious cults, gangs masquerading as local officials, and mass migrations within 16 weeks.
 
US Gov is evacuating Americans from the Diamond Princess but they have to undergo two more weeks of quarantine otherwise they can't re-enter the country "for a period of time"

Well yeah. For all anyone knows they could've been infected seconds before stepping off the boat. That's why the boat quarantine was intensely stupid in the first place, it was just keeping healthy people trapped in close quarters to infected people and basically guaranteeing further spread of the virus. There were no facilities for actual safe separation of passengers to keep the virus from hopping around willy-nilly. They should've offloaded the crew and passengers and stuck them all in a real quarantine where they could be isolated.
 
I'll just add I don't believe for a second that this thing is slowing down, CPC incompetence and secrecy aside there's too many factors working against efforts to quarantine it effectively. The virus has an incubation period that can apparently be anything from 3 days to a month, it seems to be airborne, there are the super carriers that are highly infectious, it can survive outside on surfaces for a significant number of days and people can pass the thing on even when they show no outward symptoms, all of which means it is extremely hard to pin down.

Another reason why the Chinese qaurentine efforts will be ineffective is the sheer volume of it's population under lock-down, I believe it's greater than the population of the United States by this point, which means total control over it's citizens movements are going to be impossible, there are going to be plenty of people who break either their city or their own home enforced lock-down, because of a culture of corruption that has permeated Chinese society the groundwork has already been laid for the undermining of CPC efforts to pin down the virus by its own people. This is why I've really got to disagree with people who say that the government's extreme efforts are having effect, because on the ground floor these extreme methods are impossible to enforce efficiently.

Finally if there does seem to be a slowdown of news, this isn't because the virus is slowing down, it's merely because censorship efforts are becoming more effective as the Chinese government works in tangent with WHO, who have in turn been in contact with the major internet companies to crack down on the spread of fear inciting information on their platforms. I'm sure that I don't have to tell you that China is a major keystone of the global economy, it's in everyone's interests to keep a lid on the true state of things in China, lest the country's economy goes into free fall and takes everyone else with it. And to really hammer my point home here's a video of a Chinese official spedding out as he destroys food meant for people in quarantined apartment blocks.

 
BBC said:
"A Chinese tourist has died in France after contracting the new coronavirus - the first fatality from the disease outside Asia.
The victim was an 80-year-old woman from China's Hubei province, according to French Health Minister Agnès Buzyn."
 

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Weeks after reports of a mysterious new virus began to emerge in the central Chinese province of Hubei, the authorities there suddenly changed how they determined who was infected.

It led to a significant spike in numbers - only because doctors are now counting patients who are diagnosed in a clinic and not just those who have taken the test.

But in those early days, the rapid spread of the virus through the city of Wuhan, combined with a shortage of hospital beds, meant some didn't get the treatment they needed.

Two Wuhan residents told the BBC about the harrowing experience of trying to get care for their loved-ones in a city overwhelmed by sickness.

'Grandpa rest in peace' - Xiao Huang
Huang was raised by his grandparents after his parents passed away when he was a child.

All he ever wanted was to provide for his grandparents, both in their 80s, so that they could enjoy retirement in bliss, he says.

But in the space of just over a fortnight, his grandfather was killed by the coronavirus, and now his grandmother is in a critical condition.

Huang's grandparents started to have respiratory symptoms on 20 January. They couldn't go to a hospital until 26 January as it was difficult for them to get around after Wuhan was put into effective lockdown on 23 January, with public transport suspended.

They were diagnosed with the novel coronavirus on 29 January, but were only admitted to a hospital three days later.

But the hospital was so full that there were no empty beds. His grandparents had high fever and difficulty breathing, but were only offered seats in the corridor. He begged the hospital staff and he managed to get a long chair and a folding bed.

"There's no doctor or nurse in sight," Huang wrote in his diary, "Hospital without doctors is just like a graveyard."


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The night before his grandfather passed away, Huang was with his grandparents in the corridor. He kept chatting with his grandmother so that she wouldn't know that his grandfather was experiencing delirium, he says.

A bed was finally available three hours before his grandfather died. Huang was by his bedside till the last minute.

He wrote on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform: "Grandpa, please rest in peace. There's no pain in heaven."

"Many patients died without the company of family members and couldn't even get a last look at each other."

His grandmother is battling for her life in the hospital, and he spends as much time as possible with her.

"There's no effective medicine. Doctors told me not to hold out hope, and she can only get through by herself," he said.

"We can only let fate decide."

Since 7 February Xiao Huang has himself been feeling unwell and has now been quarantined for two weeks in a hotel.

'She started to cough blood' - Da Chun
In early January, Da Chun's mother developed a fever. The family was not particularly alarmed, thinking that it was just a cold. They had heard little about the mysterious disease that was quietly spreading in the city of 11 million.

But her fever did not subside for a week, even though she received injections from a community clinic. On 20 January, the same day when Chinese authorities admitted that the coronavirus is transmittable between humans, he brought his mother to an outpatient clinic designated for people with fever.

After looking at the chest scan and results of the blood test, the doctor told them that his mother had been infected with the novel coronavirus.

"Till this day, I am still in disbelief," says Da Chun.



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But more bad news came. The doctor said his mother, 53, could not be admitted to a hospital because they didn't have the test kits to confirm the diagnosis. The test kits were only available at eight designated hospitals in late January.

"A doctor of a designated hospital told me they don't have the right to hospitalise my mum. It's the local health commission that allocates beds for confirmed cases," the 22-year-old says. "So, doctors can't do [the] coronavirus test to confirm my mom as [an] infected case, and can't offer her a bed."

Da Chun says his mother was not an isolated case. In a chat group with more than 200 members on the popular messaging app WeChat for families of infected patients people shared similar stories.

His brother would queue up at hospitals to check if there were beds available. He would go to the clinic with his mother so that she could get drips. But during these visits, they saw patients pass away inside observation rooms before getting tested or admitted.

"The dead bodies were wrapped and taken away by parlour staff," he says. "I don't know if they will be counted as deaths [caused by the novel coronavirus]."

His mother's condition continued to worsen. She started to cough blood, and there was blood in her urine.

On 29 January, his mother was finally admitted to a hospital, but he says she received no treatment and the hospital did not have sufficient equipment during the first days when she was first hospitalised.

But he's not giving up hope that his mother will recover.

Reporting by the BBC's Joyce Liu and Grace Tsoi. Illustrations by Gerry Fletcher.

(Both Da Chun and Huang used their social media aliases when speaking to the BBC)
 
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Women doctors and nurses are having to resort to cling wrap as Wuhan has run out of tampons. Male officials refused to let donated tampons past the barrier into the city.
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They also outright refused them once they had been delivered on site at another hospital.
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As a woman who once had to resort to other means toilet paper does the job better than cling wrap. It's uncomfortable as he'll but it works. But then after invested in a menstrual cup worth every penny on the 20 I spent gross as It seems you can re wash advice if you have periods and worry about the end of the world invest in a menstrual cup not a sponge because you can't really disinfect a sponge. Not the disposable kind. A menstrual cup designed to be reused preferably 2 or more that way you can soak the other in hot soapy water while still having protection. Make sure to use an antibacterial soap designed to be used on skin and rinse really well. You don't want to deal with pid or bacterial vaginosis in the apocalypse. If you can't get antibacterial soap some alcohol diluted in water rinse well.
 
Chinese are hurrying to repair their glorious monument to central planning. Good job construction Kiwis, you nailed what would happen after the first sign of bad weather.


 
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"2,200 TCM workers have been sent to Hubei"
So China fired the old health officials and this new Wang dude is sending the TCM people in?
No I don't believe that. The CCP knows TCM doesn't work. But it's too important to their propaganda so they're going to send in medical professionals and tell everyone that they are TCM specialists and that glorious Chinese medicine saved us from the Western-made virus.
 
Probably late, but France has a death:
France Reports 1st Coronavirus Death Outside of Asia
France Reports 1st Coronavirus Death Outside of Asia
Chinese officials have warned that COVID-19 may spread further as migrants return to their jobs in cities or other provinces after a prolonged Lunar New Year holiday
By Yanan Wang • Published February 14, 2020 • Updated 2 hours ago

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France reported the first death from the coronavirus to occur outside of Asia Saturday, according to French health officials.
French Health Minister Agnès Buzyn said a Chinese tourist infected with the new virus died in Paris on Feb. 14. The 80-year-old man from Hubei province, the epicenter of the virus in China, had been in isolation at a local hospital since Jan. 25.
His daughter, who was also infected, was a patient at the hospital but is expected to be released soon as her condition has improved, Buzyn said.
The news came after China reported 143 virus deaths and a dip in new cases Saturday while the government announced new anti-disease measures as businesses reopen following sweeping controls that idled much of the economy.
Also Saturday, the U.S. government announced it would fly home Americans who were quarantined on a cruise ship in Japan.
Some 2,641 new cases of the virus were reported in the 24 hours through midnight Friday, raising the total to 66,492. Mainland China’s death toll rose to 1,523.
The number of new cases was down from the 5,090 in the previous 24-hour period after authorities changed the basis for counting patients. Health experts say that will make it harder to judge the effectiveness of anti-disease controls that have cut off most access to some major cities and closed factories and offices.
Notice the last paragraph:
The number of new cases was down from the 5,090 in the previous 24-hour period after authorities changed the basis for counting patients. Health experts say that will make it harder to judge the effectiveness of anti-disease controls that have cut off most access to some major cities and closed factories and offices.

The article was dated yesterday, and thus they've changed criteria again on what counts as an infected patient.
 
Probably late, but France has a death:
France Reports 1st Coronavirus Death Outside of Asia
France Reports 1st Coronavirus Death Outside of Asia
Chinese officials have warned that COVID-19 may spread further as migrants return to their jobs in cities or other provinces after a prolonged Lunar New Year holiday
By Yanan Wang • Published February 14, 2020 • Updated 2 hours ago

NBCUniversal, Inc.


France reported the first death from the coronavirus to occur outside of Asia Saturday, according to French health officials.
French Health Minister Agnès Buzyn said a Chinese tourist infected with the new virus died in Paris on Feb. 14. The 80-year-old man from Hubei province, the epicenter of the virus in China, had been in isolation at a local hospital since Jan. 25.
His daughter, who was also infected, was a patient at the hospital but is expected to be released soon as her condition has improved, Buzyn said.
The news came after China reported 143 virus deaths and a dip in new cases Saturday while the government announced new anti-disease measures as businesses reopen following sweeping controls that idled much of the economy.
Also Saturday, the U.S. government announced it would fly home Americans who were quarantined on a cruise ship in Japan.
Some 2,641 new cases of the virus were reported in the 24 hours through midnight Friday, raising the total to 66,492. Mainland China’s death toll rose to 1,523.
The number of new cases was down from the 5,090 in the previous 24-hour period after authorities changed the basis for counting patients. Health experts say that will make it harder to judge the effectiveness of anti-disease controls that have cut off most access to some major cities and closed factories and offices.
Notice the last paragraph:
The number of new cases was down from the 5,090 in the previous 24-hour period after authorities changed the basis for counting patients. Health experts say that will make it harder to judge the effectiveness of anti-disease controls that have cut off most access to some major cities and closed factories and offices.

The article was dated yesterday, and thus they've changed criteria again on what counts as an infected patient.
Great so no one knows who is infected or died of Corona-Chan. China set to overtake the USA? lol whatever those mongs can't even count.
 
The jury's still out on domesticated animals being able to transmit the disease, but that's still not stopping Chinese in cities and villages from killing them.

Wow I didn't realize it was possible to have a even lower disregard and contempt for the Chinese.
 
No I don't believe that. The CCP knows TCM doesn't work. But it's too important to their propaganda so they're going to send in medical professionals and tell everyone that they are TCM specialists and that glorious Chinese medicine saved us from the Western-made virus.
Or they just wanna kill some TCM idiots.
 
Wow I didn't realize it was possible to have a even lower disregard and contempt for the Chinese.

4,000 years of culture that survived even Genghis Khan was taken down by the political/economic theory of a German living in the UK who had problems bathing.
They got turned into a nation of thieves by the ramblings of a UK migrant NEET whos children all joined cults and committed suicide.

I personally CAN'T have a lower regard for them if I tried.

TL;DR The Japanese did nothing wrong in China.
 
Just a random weekend thought for you guys: times are good and stores are stocked.

Why not make a pound or two of bacon and have a very unhealthy breakfast? Feels good. :drink:
Unfortunately no I'm salting my bacon I'm not going into the end times with out muh bacon. But bought vanilla whiskey making Irish coffee now.
 
This isn't fake. I've seen stuff like with my own eyes. These pod apartments should just have public toilets, this is a genuine health and fire hazard. China has its share of sewage systems blowing up.
It's not like they didn't bring those here, btw. The Sun Bright Hotel in NYC is pretty close. Although I think public outcry led to them finally renovate. There's more than one of these flophouses in the city iirc (found when I was binging on bad hotel reviews).
ETA: Looked them up, permanently closed, along with The Whitehouse, another skeevy place. Good to see they've been taken care of.
 
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